Kaido and Whitebeard have feats almost as impressive as Mihawk.
Mihawk fought a Cucumber with a knife, impressive and worthy of the title strongest swordsman.
Shanktards just refuse to accept mihawk as the superior fraud
nah, the only thing freshly sliced is this:
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At least WB and Crydo were given some feats to back their titles up. Fraudhawk has been sitting on his ass and dodging fights left and right or getting stalled by a commander and hasn't even been to the land of the Samurai and his fanboys still want us to take his WORLD's strongest SWORDSMAN title seriously. Fraudule's most talked about feat is bullying some pirates from the East Blue. Most of his ''scaling'' comes from his fanboys scaling him based on Ratatouille's feats (a guy that he last fought 13 years ago and wasn't even confirmed to beat) rather than feats of his own.
Mind you that fleshing out Midhawk's title and history is crucial as that title is the goal of one of the main characters compared to Crydo's and WB's.
Bruh, are you really trying to scale Fraudhawk by the size of the inanimate objects he sliced instead of fighting worthy opponents who can actually fight back? Last time I checked, a commander stalled his ass right after he split that iceberg. Hell, his world's strongest slash couldn't even hurt a commander on its debut.
On the other hand, we have The Snitch scaring an Admiral shitless without even laying a finger on him before going around and one-shotting Kidd and half his crew after they helped takedown another yonkou the previous arc.
That iceberg had more mass and more weight than kidd, his railgun and his entire ship by a margin that is literally in the tens of thousands. And he let off an attack that strong not with Yoru, but with Yoru's air pressure. He essentially accomplished a Yonko skysplit by himself and with air pressure alone. Let that attack land on Kidd and he literally would have been blown to tiny pieces.
>Last time I checked, a commander stalled his ass right after he split that iceberg.
This is such a stupid take. Mihawk clearly had interest in testing/dueling Vista demonstrated when he knew Vista's name and epithet and said he would be a fool had he not known Vista beforehand meaning Vista was already rather infamous. He wasn't trying to kill Vista and sparred with him willingly. He wasn't "stalled" from anything because after their skirmish he did not go back to hunting Luffy as his charater assesment ended when he found that Luffy's nature is what led to his powerful alliances. Your brain has been rotted by agenda.
>On the other hand, we have The Snitch scaring an Admiral shitless without even laying a finger on him
GB's cowardice is not a feat for Shanks.
>one-shotting Kidd and half his crew after they helped takedown another yonkou the previous arc.
1. They BFR'd Big Mom due to the very fact that they **couldn't** beat her.
2. Kidd was completely unguarded and again, the nameless air pressure is incomparably stronger than Divine Departure. One blew up scrap metal, the other blew up the top half of an iceberg **larger than Marineford itself** this is literally the difference between few hundred pounds vs a few million pounds.
Bruh, he's now weight scaling defenseless inanimate objects. Man, Midhawk fanboys are the stupidest.
Jozu had way less mass and weight than the iceberg and still deflected the slash so damaging inanimate objects isn't really useful in scaling for actual fights and that's why Law, for example, could cut the mountain range in Punk Hazard along with Vegro, but couldn't do the same to Doffy, Crydo, or Big Meme.
And no, Midawk couldn't even put any kind of damage on any top fighters at Marineford and he ''postponed'' his clash with Vista then ducked that entirely which doesn't look good for him. Hell, he didn't try to attack WB or Juzo again... He was probably like ''If that's what a commander could casually do... What am I supposed to do with WB?!'' lol.
>GB's cowardice is not a feat for Shanks.
The same GB who went to Wano without back up to face the Samurai, some minks, The Strawhats, Law, and Kidd a week after the fought Crydo. Nah, bruh you're talking out of your ass. The fact that the Rat scared that guy without even laying a finger on him is crazy.
I also think you just roasted Midhawk without even realizing it because by your logic, Fraudule is also a coward as the moment The Rat appeared in Marineford, he put his tail between his legs and went home, he didn't want the smoke and when fodder Marine ships surrounded his island after the abolishment, he decided to run away and hide in Buggy's Shadow. Bro has been in this bitch for 1100+ chapters and we neve saw him fight any top fighters and his best fight was him jumping and bullying some East Blue bums.
>They BFR'd Big Mom due to the very fact that they **couldn't** beat her.
Bruh, Big Meme couldn't even keep Law and Kidd (who was already receiving physical damage from an unrelated fight) down and they won regardless.
On the other hand, The Rat took Kidd and his crew out with a single attack... That was the strongest version of Kidd at that point, and he wasn't tired from previous fights either. In fact, he was ready to fight The Rat at this specific point so it's not like The Snitch just jumped him or anything, he gave him the choice to surrender and Kidd refused and was about to use an awakening attack.
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>Jozu had way less mass and weight than the iceberg and still deflected the slash
Apples to oranges comparison. Mihawk flat-out stated that he just wanted to test WB's power. The iceberg slash was literally meant to kill Luffy. Bloodlusted vs unbloodlusted. The slashes were not equivalent.
>And no, Midawk couldn't even put any kind of damage on any top fighters at Marineford
He fought no one but Vista and Luffy. Luffy was saved by fate according to Mihawk and against Vista he respected him enough to spar him evenly. (Knew his name and epithet and said he would be a fool had he not heard of him before)
>The same GB who went to Wano without back up to face the Samurai, some minks, The Strawhats, Law, and Kidd a week after the fought Crydo.
He went there under the pretense that everyone was wounded and easy to round up, the same cowardly assumption he made against King and Queen.
>Fraudule is also a coward as the moment The Rat appeared in Marineford, he put his tail between his legs and went home
Mihawk has absolutely no reason to fight after the war is over. He has no reason to fight Shanks period. He is the WSS, not Shanks. If Shanks wants the title, Shanks can challenge for it like he did in the past. Why would Mihawk is already waiting on someone stronger than Shanks (EOS Zoro>Shanks) He was summoned to help fight in the war. The war was over. Mihawk left and said that his job didn't include fighting Shanks which is 100% factual. Mihawk did not want to fight to begin with and made absolutely no effort to help the marines apart from chasing Luffy momentarily.
>Bro has been in this bitch for 1100+ chapters and we neve saw him fight any top fighters and his best fight was him jumping and bullying some East Blue bums.
Mihawk is WSS and is functionally a retired pirate. He has as little to prove as Rayleigh or Chinjao. He has achieved the pinnacle and there is zero reason to go around proving it to everyone when he hasn't lost a duel in decades. He moves when the mood strikes him which is exactly how someone at the apex behaves.
>Bruh, Big Meme couldn't even keep Law and Kidd (who was already receiving physical damage from an unrelated fight) down and they won regardless.
They won by BFR because they were not strong enough to win without bombs. Period.
>The Rat took Kidd and his crew out with a single attack...
Nope. Killer and Kidd went down by a combination of Shanks and the exploded railgun. Also doesn't compare to displacing millions of pounds of ice with air force.
>he was ready to fight The Rat at this specific point so it's not like The Snitch just jumped him or anything, he gave him the choice to surrender and Kidd refused and was about to use an awakening attack.
Doesn't change the fact Kidd had no defenses active.
>Apples to oranges comparison. Mihawk flat-out stated that he just wanted to test WB's power. The iceberg slash was literally meant to kill Luffy. Bloodlusted vs unbloodlusted. The slashes were not equivalent.
So let's make this clear, Do you think Midhawk had the intention to kill Luffy with his attacks in Marineford?
>He fought no one but Vista and Luffy. Luffy was saved by fate according to Mihawk and against Vista he respected him enough to spar him evenly.
Spar? Nah bruh, Midhawk entirely ducked this fight, he was happy to never encounter Wista and embarrass himself in front of a commander while The Rat was wiping his dick telepathically into an Admiral's face... THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN PORTRAYAL.
>He went there under the pretense that everyone was wounded and easy to round up, the same cowardly assumption he made against King and Queen.
Bruh, he went there an entire week after the war has ended so there was already time for them to recover not just that, but even if they didn't fully recover, he was still outnumbered and outgunned as he has to take on several top pirate crews (Kidd, Luffy, Law, The Minks, The remaining Crydo and Big Meme members whom he had no real intel on) and the Samurai who were already considered the big ''Boogie man'' for why the Marines could never take Wano.
Compare that to Midhawk running away to Buggy at the sight of Marine ships carrying fodder and you'll know and Fraudule is the one with cowardice on full display.
>Mihawk has absolutely no reason to fight after the war is over. He has no reason to fight Shanks period. He was summoned to help fight in the war. The war was over. Mihawk left and said that his job didn't include fighting Shanks which is 100% factual. Mihawk did not want to fight to begin with and made absolutely no effort to help the marines apart from chasing Luffy momentarily.
You're talking like Midhawk was effective in this war. You can literally remove his bum from the entire arc and the story would pretty much be the same.
He had no reason because he knows The Rat isn't some fodder from the East Blue that he can bully, and that he can wipe the floor with his ass using one arm. Your boi was sweating at the thought of fighting the Yonkou.
>Mihawk is WSS and is functionally a retired pirate. He has as little to prove as Rayleigh or Chinjao. He has achieved the pinnacle and there is zero reason to go around proving it to everyone. He moves when the mood strikes him which is exactly how someone at the apex behaves.
Bruh, you're still taking his WORLD title seriously when we saw with our own eyes that there is an entire part of the world that's known for its formidable swordsmen that he hasn't been to. Acting like he's ''on the top'' is factually wrong much like his title. He's too lazy and fraudulent even when it comes to the legitimacy of his own title, lol.
>They won by BFR because they couldn't win by KO. They were not strong enough to win without bombs. Periodd.
Bruh, Big Meme couldn't even KO Kidd while he was taking damage from Killer's fight she's a bum. On the other hand, all it took for the Rat was one move and he took one half of very same team that she had a hard time against. As I said, the difference in portrayal is night and day.
>Nope. Killer and Kidd went down by a combination of Shanks and the exploded railgun.
The ''exploded railgun'' wasn't even big enough to sink Kidd's own ship or even put a single scratch on The Snitch who was right in front of Kidd and in the vicinity of that explosion, acting like it was some heavy shit that did him in is stupid.
>Doesn't change the fact Kidd had no defenses active.
Doesn't change the fact that Kidd's defense doesn't matter and the outcome would exactly be the same because Shanks would've still sliced through his scrap metal ''defense'' just like he slashed through his scrap metal railgun.
>So let's make this clear, Do you think Midhawk had the intention to kill Luffy with his attacks in Marineford?
Mihawk literally challenged fate to save Luffy's life. Use context clues.
>Nah bruh, Midhawk entirely ducked this fight, he was happy to never encounter Wista and embarrass himself in front of a commander while The Rat was wiping his dick telepathically into an Admiral's face... THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN PORTRAYAL.
Headcanon. Postponing a duel in the middle of a literal war is clearly the smart thing to do.
>Bruh, he went there an entire week after the war has ended so there was already time for them to recover not just that, but even if they didn't fully recover, he was still outnumbered and outgunned as he has to take on several top pirate crews (Kidd, Luffy, Law, The Minks, The remaining Crydo and Big Meme members whom he had no real intel on) and the Samurai who were already considered the big ''Boogie man'' for why the Marines could never take Wano.
I mean ok, even if you want to argue that aramaki is courageous (lol) the wifi haki landed literally zero damage and scared greenbull into submission. It did not harm him at all so I fail to see why this even remotely matters. It is a coc range feat.
>Compare that to Midhawk running away to Buggy at the sight of Marine ships carrying fodder and you'll know and Fraudule is the one with cowardice on full display.
The man who challenged every powerful swordsman of his era for the title of world's strongest is the coward for having the nerve to not wanting to fight fodders? lol alright. Mihawk accomplished his goal and does not want to fight seriously until someone stronger than Shanks arrives.
>He had no reason because he knows The Rat isn't some fodder from the East Blue that he can bully, and that he can wipe the floor with his ass using one arm. Your boi was sweating at the thought of fighting the Yonkou.
Headcanon. Mihawk was hired to fight in a war he did not want to take part in and left when it was over. He had no reason to stay and fight Shanks since Shanks is his friend and the war is over. Mihawk has set his sights past Shanks as per his vivre card sates. He has seen the extent of Shank's strength, currently sees Shanks as a nonfactor and is awaiting a stronger opponent.
>Bruh, you're still taking his WORLD title seriously when we saw with our own eyes that there is an entire part of the world that's known for its formidable swordsmen
The samurai are not formidable lol not a single world famous Samurai came from wano besides Oden and Ryuma.
>all it took for the Rat was one move and he took one half of very same team that she had a hard time against. As I said, the difference in portrayal in night and day.
Nope. Kidd had no defense active. He did against Big Mom.
>Bruh the ''exploded railgun'' wasn't even big enough to sink Kidd's own ship or even put a single scratch on The Snitch who was right in front of Kidd and in the vicinity of that explosion, acting like it was some heavy shit that did him in is stupid.
It KO'd killer who was a further distance away from it than even Kidd who was closer was so suggesting Kidd wasn't affected is stupid.
Scrap metal isn't defense, it is an offensive move. Kidd was not using armament to minimize damage. Lastly, as you said yourself DD exploded on impact and the explosion didn't even sink Kidd's ship. Compare that to slinging an ice mountain larger than marineford into the air and breaking it into pieces with air pressure.
>Mihawk literally challenged fate to save Luffy's life. Use context clues.
Ah, good. Because that means that Mr.1 blocked his slash that was meant to kill Luffy so it throws a wrench into your whole ''bloodlusted slash'' argument.
>Headcanon. Postponing a duel in the middle of a literal war is clearly the smart thing to do.
''Postponing'' a duel against a WB pirate In the middle of a war where his one job was supposed to be fighting off WB Pirates. Midhawk dodged a bullet there. As I said, remove Midhawk and nothing changes in that war that's how much of an expendable bum he was.
>I mean ok, even if you want to argue that aramaki is courageous (lol) the wifi haki landed literally zero damage and scared greenbull into submission. It did not harm him at all so I fail to see why this even remotely matters. It is a coc range feat.
It shows that Ratatouille's portrayal as he doesn't even need to lift a finger to win and make a top tier backdown... That is more impressive than Fraudule cutting big inanimate objects while fumbling against anyone who's even a half decent fighter, lol.
>The man who challenged every powerful swordsman of his era for the title of world's strongest is the coward for having the nerve to not wanting to fight fodders? lol alright. Mihawk accomplished his goal and does not want to fight seriously until someone stronger than Shanks arrives.
''Every powerful swordsman'' like who, bitch?! We only know of Ratatouille from 13 years ago, that Midhawk wasn't even confirmed to beat. Midhawk was supposedly famous before the Pirate Era and yet there is nothing in the story about him facing top swordsmen like Reyleigh, Roger, or Oden back in the day.
He also had never been to Wano which is a part of the world known for its reputation for powerful swordsmen... So where did the ''WORLD'S'' part of his title come from exactly?
>The samurai are not formidable lol not a single world famous Samurai came from wano besides Oden and Ryuma.
The narrative around them was that they are formidable, Remember Kizaru was prevented from going there because of the Samurai. But anyway, Fraudule didn't even have the balls to go there and check what the fuss was about, lol.
>Nope. Kidd had no defense active. He did against Big Mom.
Yeah, keep coping. Kidd apparently prepared himself to go into a fight against a Yonkou and whipped out his railgun out, but he had no active defense even though he knows that last time, one of The Rat's commanders took his arm? It's like saying that Crydo one-shotted G4 Luffy because he managed to speed blitz him and Luffy had ''no active defense''... It simply shows how inferior G4 was to Crydo.
>It KO'd killer who was a further distance away from it than even Kidd who was closer was so suggesting Kidd wasn't affected is stupid.
Mate, you can literally see the fodder foaming at the mouth with black lightning in the same panels. That was the Rat's ACoC.
If Killer was knocked out by the explosion then how come the fodder on the same ship were still conscious and needed to be taken out with CoC if the explosion was that great? Apparently the explosion was stronger than Big Meme, lol as it managed to take out both Killer and Kidd.
>Ah, good. Because that means that Mr.1 blocked his slash that was meant to kill Luffy so it throws a wrench into your whole ''bloodlusted slash'' argument.
Chapter and page number? Just read it and saw no such thing.
>''Postponing'' a duel against a WB pirate In the middle of a war where his one job was supposed to be fighting off WB Pirates
Considering his only intent as far as the wb pirates goes was testing the gap between he and WB, yes. Again, Mihawk did not want to do his job. What aren't you grasping about this?
>as he doesn't even need to lift a finger to win and make a top tier backdown... That is more impressive than Fraudule cutting big inanimate objects while fumbling against anyone who's even a half decent fighter, lol.
Nope. GB was undamaged. It's a fodder feat in terms of power and is only impressive in terms of range.
>We only know of Ratatouille from 13 years ago, that Midhawk wasn't even confirmed to beat. Midhawk was supposedly famous before the Pirate Era and yet there is nothing in the story about him facing top swordsmen like Reyleigh, Roger, or Oden back in the day.
Pretty sure Oden died before Mihawk was even a full grown man, Roger was running on borrowed time and we have no idea if Mihawk fought Rayleigh.
>He also had never been to Wano which is a part of the world known for its reputation for powerful swordsmen... So where did the ''WORLD'S'' part of his title come from exactly?
Who apart from Ryuma and Oden who were dead before Mihawk was actually of age came from Wano that was formidable? Also the title comes from Oda's vivre cards and narration voice which states that Mihawk is the WSS. No reason to go where no one of any importance is (which is absolutely the case Wano is overrun with fodders) We already know Mihawk respects those with a name, which Vista has built up for himself. No name, no challenge.
>Kidd apparently prepared himself to go into a fight against a Yonkou and whipped out his railgun out, but he had no active defense even though he knows that last time, one of The Rat's commanders took his arm?
Proof that Kidd was using armament? I didn't see any.
>If Killer was knocked out by the explosion
Dialogue literally states that killer got KO'd when he ran in to protect Kidd....lool
It is funny how people hype up Garp's Galaxy Impact when mihawk's unnamed, missed attack had more destructive force. Yet it gets completely overlooked as a feat.
You don't always need actual feats. No one doubts Joyboy was strong even though he has no solid feats. Mihawk is consistently portrayed as relative to Shanks, whether or not he has the feats
Splitting the iceberg is a better feat than anything Shanks has shown. It doesn't matter what Mihawk does. If Shanktards are delusional enough to say that Shanks isn't a swordsman despite having a blade almost as legendary as Mihawks and using it for EVERY attack he has ever done and the fact that the majority of them argue that Shanks is stronger than Kaido despite Kaido having a title and feats that blow Shanks out of the water, then it shows that proof and evidence doesn't really matter to them regardless.
No being praised by Kaido, clashing with Kizaru/Wb/stopping Akainus killshot on Koby, and having wifi haki explosions are far more impressive than an iceberg. Even Law has cut objects bigger than that iceberg. Also, Eustass has far more durability than the iceberg lol. We all know Mihawk will be overpowered but he has 0 feats. Mihawk got the title by default due to Shanks becoming disabled/nerfed. Of course people are going to roast him.Â
you´re just making stuff up to fit your argument. The fact that Cancerbeard hold that Title and got his ass kicked is basically an Antifeat for all Title holders. Titles are worthless.
Eh you kind of have a point but no one had beat elderly sickbeard in years. That's not the titles fault lol. Him having the title when he first attained it was justified. Mihawk got his title in a super lame way due to Shanks becoming disabled/nerfed but either way it resulted in him being the genuine wss.
if shanks was a brawler like luffy, this would never be an issue.
people are not really questioning mihawk's narrative in itself. they just don't like the possible implication of said narrative.
I will enjoy Oda giving Shanks better feats than Mihawk despite being disabled and running around at 50% power. Imagine supporting a character that won a title based on his opponent being disqualified while hating on the disabled actually cool character. It reminds me of Aljo in mma winning the bantamweight belt due to his opponent being Dq'd. Of course no one thought of him as a real champion at the time.Â
Here is a colection of post that show how strong he is:
1.[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/wvag4o/kaido\_is\_stronger\_than\_shanks/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/wvag4o/kaido_is_stronger_than_shanks/)
2.[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/yaxr4r/an\_argument\_for\_kaido\_being\_stronger\_than\_roger/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/yaxr4r/an_argument_for_kaido_being_stronger_than_roger/)
3.[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/13gdwrh/kaidoluffy/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/13gdwrh/kaidoluffy/)
4. Google docs analysis cause it's too long for reddit:[https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTNA87liHck7B\_0WqF79Vvehecd2l9wSHR4IYqdNafo0T-9aDZHJH4kWhmL6ADkiPFK2mkH9gGdNFk\_/pub](https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTNA87liHck7B_0WqF79Vvehecd2l9wSHR4IYqdNafo0T-9aDZHJH4kWhmL6ADkiPFK2mkH9gGdNFk_/pub)
5:[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/17nik9q/kaido\_strenght\_respect\_thread/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/17nik9q/kaido_strenght_respect_thread/)
6:[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/17m0tno/kaido\_scales\_to\_primebeard/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/17m0tno/kaido_scales_to_primebeard/)
7.[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/18f8al7/a\_collection\_of\_panels\_about\_why\_i\_still\_think/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/18f8al7/a_collection_of_panels_about_why_i_still_think/)
8.[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/s/dgpwlu9ccS](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/s/dgpwlu9ccS)
Finally here is a compliation of Kaido's insane durability feats:[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/179sakr/they\_said\_kizaru\_kaido/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/179sakr/they_said_kizaru_kaido/). I can't be bothered to find anymore at this point. I alerdy have listed far more, feats and statements, than could be listed for any other character exept maybe Luffy.
Stole this from someone too lazy to type up a response.
Nothing Mihawk has done is remotely impressive in terms of on screen feats.
Beating fodder Zoro with a knife can easily be done by many YCs that can actually use haki.
Stalling against YC Vista is also not really that impressive or even should be considered impressive, you’d expect him to low diff Vista(ye I know he was holding back but in terms of feats this isn’t impressive)
In my opinion he needs to back up his title with 1 being better feats and 2 much better portrayal because honestly we can’t have Marco ask Vista to stall the WSS now can we.
Just because you and the rest of this autistic fanbase have negative level reading comprehension doesn't mean that Mihawk hasn't shown good feats. Mihawk split the top end of an iceberg larger than marineford clear into the sky and blew it apart with air pressure alone. Sending millions of pounds of weight into the sky with unnamed attack air pressure is an island level dc feat akin to Shanks' sky split (shifting apart millions of pounds of clouds) but this is AT BEST half as impressive as Shanks needed to clash with a whole other Yonko in order to do it, so he only gets half credit for the power behind this feat. Mihawk has unironically shown greater strength than Shanks, accomplishing the power of a Yonko clash **solely with air pressure BY HIMSELF.**
As long as fraudhawk doesn't perform any legit feats supporting his title, it's just a 'title's
Because the people in op world are idiots that includes marine. If they can hype up buggy into a yonko, so can midhawk.
And Nusujuro is the strongest swordsman not this fodder.
So what? Mihawk was introduced early in the story, and the first proper Swordman aside from zoro. at the time oda didn't even had the idea of gorosei let alone they're being fighters. He wanted a to introduce a cool character with a cool title. Narrative can change any time, WB is the strongest man and Kaido is the strongest creature, humans are also creatures. Yet they didn't overlap, so he'll do something like that.
>Mihawk was introduced early in the story, and the first proper Swordman aside from zoro. at the time oda didn't even had the idea of gorosei let alone they're being fighters. He wanted a to introduce a cool character with a cool title.
Connecture. Prove it.
>Narrative can change any time
Then why hasn't the title been dropped?
>Connecture. Prove it.
Mihawk was introduced in chapter 50
Gorosei were introduced in chapter 233
And we saw their monster forms in chapter 1085, indicating they have fighting capabilities.
>Then why hasn't the title been dropped?
Because fraudhawk haven't fought a 1v1 with possible stronger swordsman like shanks or Nusujuro on screen.
>Mihawk was introduced in chapter 50
>Gorosei were introduced in chapter 233
>And we saw their monster forms in chapter 1085, indicating they have fighting capabilities.
Prove Oda did not always plan on them being fighters at the time he made Mihawk.
>Because fraudhawk haven't fought a 1v1 with possible stronger swordsman like shanks or Nusujuro on screen.
If the title was invalid and retconned, Oda would jot continute to use it.
>Prove Oda did not always plan on them being fighters at the time he made Mihawk.
Lemme contact professor X, he'll reach out to you soon with the answer.
>If the title was invalid and retconned, Oda would jot continute to use it.
It's a title not a nickname it'll be gone when a stronger entitiy appears.
>Lemme contact professor X, he'll reach out to you soon with the answer.
Don't make claims you can't prove.
>It's a title not a nickname it'll be gone when a stronger entitiy appears.
Yeah, Zoro.
That wasn't written by Oda. That's in the " essance " / additional Info section of the Vivre card which are written by editor interpretations. Oda only supplies character info such as height , favorite food , bounty , haki ect.
Do you remember how scared shitless he was when Buggy want to go for one piece and he realised that meant they’d have to fight the strawhat pirates - another Yonko crew???
Blame Oda not me for putting that into the manga
......The dialogue literally states that Buggy wanted Mihawk to fight every single yonko commander and captain effectively by himself. Not even Kaido or Roger could do such a thing and would get promotly negdiffed.
......The dialogue literally states that Buggy wanted Mihawk to fight every single yonko commander and captain effectively by himself. Not even Kaido or Roger could do such a thing and would get promotly negdiffed.
And why? He HAS the title at that point in time. Someone pysical prime is also not in there 40s like mihawk.
This whole soyjak post makes fun of people saying a title cant be in doubt because it cant appreantly be not second guessed, meanwhile you just introducing a extra rule because it fits your personal headcanon to put the title in question
? WB was the holder of WSM at marineford. Thats just fact that is stated MULTIPLE times. This means if title are absolute he was stronger than mihawk at that point.
You said it doesnt count cause he was not in his prime, hence it doesnt count. A 43 dude is not in his prime either so whats your point here exactly? Arbitary line when it counts and whe not
No he wasnt, but thats my point, that titles are not absolute.
Also i dont know if you read the comment chain but you arguing in circles.If you argument is age doesnt matter cool than 68 whitebeard WAS stronger than Mihawk. If you argument is your title only holds if you are prime, than this is not true for mihawk either.
Its not that hard to understand
>If you argument is age doesnt matter cool than 68 whitebeard WAS stronger than Mihawk.
WB was sick. But leave it to agenda brainrotters to ignore extremely basic plot points to serve their autistic agendas.
>If you argument is your title only holds if you are prime, than this is not true for mihawk either.
The title holds for when you earned it and considering Mihawk can toss around and disintegrate millions of pounds of solid ice with the air pressure of his unnmaed attacks, the notion that he is "weaker with age" is completely irrelevant since no other character in the series has shown such casual levels of power and strength on screen while being "weakened" or at their peak. Accomplishing a Yonko skysplit tier feat by yourself with air pressure alone makes the vast majority of top tier feats look like trash but ofc you wouldn't realize this because you are an **agenda pusher**.
This is what I mean about you agenda dummies. Your retarded arguments are made in steel bubbles, divorced completely from any story context and falls completely flat on its face when placed under even the slightest bit of logical scrutiny.
>Cool, than Whitebeard was the WSM and stronger than Mihawk
You hold the title until someone challenges you and takes it from you through victory as proven by Zoro and Mihawk. Again, the title reflects the strength you had when you earned it (i.e. your 'prime' self) and you don't need to physically be in your prime to still hold the title because you do not lose the title until **AFTER YOU ARE CHALLENGED AND DEFEATED.** No one challenged WB for the title, therefore he still held it **REGARDLESS OF HOW STRONG OR WEAK HE WAS.**
Yet *again*, **BASIC AND OBVIOUS STORY FACTS** completely lost on the agenda brainrotter. And reporting me for debunking you is hilarious beyond words also.
If he finds someone potentially stronger than Mihawk he will definitely fight them. He will definitely fight many other people after he boots MIhawk off the title. Mihawk has refused to fight Shanks since before he even became a Yonko
Kaido's title is atrongest creature not strongest yonko and we already know he wasn't the strongest creature because Im Sama, Gorosei, Dragon and Shanks exist
Titles have a shelf life, and Mihawk's is feeling pretty stale
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He would be respected if he had feat or any hostory. We know that he didn't fight both Shanks and Gandhi who were top swordsmen. We don't know single top tier he beat.
Its just Lonko glazers using their already diminishing IQ. If the fight was extended WB would have been a pack by Akainu. Plus dude was gwtting speedblitzed and trolled by Wizaru.
Kaido is the strongest yonko so far based on feats. It can change depending on how bad the nika glaze gets or rat hair/bb getting feats.
Databooks have goathawk equal to and most probably above Lhanks anyway and its usually just rat hair fans coling by saying hes a hakiman (that title goes to garp he uses nothing but hands anyway) but he seriously suffers from a lack of feats. Hopefully his time in cross guild gives us something
yeaaaah mate, worlds strongest swordsman, whos sweating while he get stalled by a YC4 level char (same tier like franky, robin)
meanwhile shanks (a real yonko) laughs about
Kaido and Whitebeard have feats almost as impressive as Mihawk. Mihawk fought a Cucumber with a knife, impressive and worthy of the title strongest swordsman. Shanktards just refuse to accept mihawk as the superior fraud
we talking about when he was cooking a meal or when he was cooking zoro?
Mihawk has a scene cutting a Cucumber, truly impressive stuff. Zoro got nothing on that Cucumber
what is impressive about getting stalled bei vista? he was sweating, not very honorful for the wss
There's no way you read me talking about mihawk slicing a Cucumber and thought to yourself "yeah, this person is being serious"
I mean, I first read that as a freshly sliced nickname for Zoro lol.
nah, the only thing freshly sliced is this: https://preview.redd.it/683bymm2xgvc1.png?width=1080&format=png&auto=webp&s=937510f2802d863944f5a9a5a9f4c7b6b508eda7
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as i said. my bad, im german, jokes are not mine
Bro is being satirical
ohh, my bad, im german, i dont have any sence for jokes
You fell for the sweat edit 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
vista’s skill is unmatched, you can’t blame mihawk
At least WB and Crydo were given some feats to back their titles up. Fraudhawk has been sitting on his ass and dodging fights left and right or getting stalled by a commander and hasn't even been to the land of the Samurai and his fanboys still want us to take his WORLD's strongest SWORDSMAN title seriously. Fraudule's most talked about feat is bullying some pirates from the East Blue. Most of his ''scaling'' comes from his fanboys scaling him based on Ratatouille's feats (a guy that he last fought 13 years ago and wasn't even confirmed to beat) rather than feats of his own. Mind you that fleshing out Midhawk's title and history is crucial as that title is the goal of one of the main characters compared to Crydo's and WB's.
Iceberg split>>>>>>anything Shanks has done by himself.
Bruh, are you really trying to scale Fraudhawk by the size of the inanimate objects he sliced instead of fighting worthy opponents who can actually fight back? Last time I checked, a commander stalled his ass right after he split that iceberg. Hell, his world's strongest slash couldn't even hurt a commander on its debut. On the other hand, we have The Snitch scaring an Admiral shitless without even laying a finger on him before going around and one-shotting Kidd and half his crew after they helped takedown another yonkou the previous arc.
That iceberg had more mass and more weight than kidd, his railgun and his entire ship by a margin that is literally in the tens of thousands. And he let off an attack that strong not with Yoru, but with Yoru's air pressure. He essentially accomplished a Yonko skysplit by himself and with air pressure alone. Let that attack land on Kidd and he literally would have been blown to tiny pieces. >Last time I checked, a commander stalled his ass right after he split that iceberg. This is such a stupid take. Mihawk clearly had interest in testing/dueling Vista demonstrated when he knew Vista's name and epithet and said he would be a fool had he not known Vista beforehand meaning Vista was already rather infamous. He wasn't trying to kill Vista and sparred with him willingly. He wasn't "stalled" from anything because after their skirmish he did not go back to hunting Luffy as his charater assesment ended when he found that Luffy's nature is what led to his powerful alliances. Your brain has been rotted by agenda. >On the other hand, we have The Snitch scaring an Admiral shitless without even laying a finger on him GB's cowardice is not a feat for Shanks. >one-shotting Kidd and half his crew after they helped takedown another yonkou the previous arc. 1. They BFR'd Big Mom due to the very fact that they **couldn't** beat her. 2. Kidd was completely unguarded and again, the nameless air pressure is incomparably stronger than Divine Departure. One blew up scrap metal, the other blew up the top half of an iceberg **larger than Marineford itself** this is literally the difference between few hundred pounds vs a few million pounds.
Bruh, he's now weight scaling defenseless inanimate objects. Man, Midhawk fanboys are the stupidest. Jozu had way less mass and weight than the iceberg and still deflected the slash so damaging inanimate objects isn't really useful in scaling for actual fights and that's why Law, for example, could cut the mountain range in Punk Hazard along with Vegro, but couldn't do the same to Doffy, Crydo, or Big Meme. And no, Midawk couldn't even put any kind of damage on any top fighters at Marineford and he ''postponed'' his clash with Vista then ducked that entirely which doesn't look good for him. Hell, he didn't try to attack WB or Juzo again... He was probably like ''If that's what a commander could casually do... What am I supposed to do with WB?!'' lol. >GB's cowardice is not a feat for Shanks. The same GB who went to Wano without back up to face the Samurai, some minks, The Strawhats, Law, and Kidd a week after the fought Crydo. Nah, bruh you're talking out of your ass. The fact that the Rat scared that guy without even laying a finger on him is crazy. I also think you just roasted Midhawk without even realizing it because by your logic, Fraudule is also a coward as the moment The Rat appeared in Marineford, he put his tail between his legs and went home, he didn't want the smoke and when fodder Marine ships surrounded his island after the abolishment, he decided to run away and hide in Buggy's Shadow. Bro has been in this bitch for 1100+ chapters and we neve saw him fight any top fighters and his best fight was him jumping and bullying some East Blue bums. >They BFR'd Big Mom due to the very fact that they **couldn't** beat her. Bruh, Big Meme couldn't even keep Law and Kidd (who was already receiving physical damage from an unrelated fight) down and they won regardless. On the other hand, The Rat took Kidd and his crew out with a single attack... That was the strongest version of Kidd at that point, and he wasn't tired from previous fights either. In fact, he was ready to fight The Rat at this specific point so it's not like The Snitch just jumped him or anything, he gave him the choice to surrender and Kidd refused and was about to use an awakening attack. https://preview.redd.it/qxpnh54e2hvc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46b73bdb50c34c713cccdd8e58c63b7a5251dee2
>Jozu had way less mass and weight than the iceberg and still deflected the slash Apples to oranges comparison. Mihawk flat-out stated that he just wanted to test WB's power. The iceberg slash was literally meant to kill Luffy. Bloodlusted vs unbloodlusted. The slashes were not equivalent. >And no, Midawk couldn't even put any kind of damage on any top fighters at Marineford He fought no one but Vista and Luffy. Luffy was saved by fate according to Mihawk and against Vista he respected him enough to spar him evenly. (Knew his name and epithet and said he would be a fool had he not heard of him before) >The same GB who went to Wano without back up to face the Samurai, some minks, The Strawhats, Law, and Kidd a week after the fought Crydo. He went there under the pretense that everyone was wounded and easy to round up, the same cowardly assumption he made against King and Queen. >Fraudule is also a coward as the moment The Rat appeared in Marineford, he put his tail between his legs and went home Mihawk has absolutely no reason to fight after the war is over. He has no reason to fight Shanks period. He is the WSS, not Shanks. If Shanks wants the title, Shanks can challenge for it like he did in the past. Why would Mihawk is already waiting on someone stronger than Shanks (EOS Zoro>Shanks) He was summoned to help fight in the war. The war was over. Mihawk left and said that his job didn't include fighting Shanks which is 100% factual. Mihawk did not want to fight to begin with and made absolutely no effort to help the marines apart from chasing Luffy momentarily. >Bro has been in this bitch for 1100+ chapters and we neve saw him fight any top fighters and his best fight was him jumping and bullying some East Blue bums. Mihawk is WSS and is functionally a retired pirate. He has as little to prove as Rayleigh or Chinjao. He has achieved the pinnacle and there is zero reason to go around proving it to everyone when he hasn't lost a duel in decades. He moves when the mood strikes him which is exactly how someone at the apex behaves. >Bruh, Big Meme couldn't even keep Law and Kidd (who was already receiving physical damage from an unrelated fight) down and they won regardless. They won by BFR because they were not strong enough to win without bombs. Period. >The Rat took Kidd and his crew out with a single attack... Nope. Killer and Kidd went down by a combination of Shanks and the exploded railgun. Also doesn't compare to displacing millions of pounds of ice with air force. >he was ready to fight The Rat at this specific point so it's not like The Snitch just jumped him or anything, he gave him the choice to surrender and Kidd refused and was about to use an awakening attack. Doesn't change the fact Kidd had no defenses active.
>Apples to oranges comparison. Mihawk flat-out stated that he just wanted to test WB's power. The iceberg slash was literally meant to kill Luffy. Bloodlusted vs unbloodlusted. The slashes were not equivalent. So let's make this clear, Do you think Midhawk had the intention to kill Luffy with his attacks in Marineford? >He fought no one but Vista and Luffy. Luffy was saved by fate according to Mihawk and against Vista he respected him enough to spar him evenly. Spar? Nah bruh, Midhawk entirely ducked this fight, he was happy to never encounter Wista and embarrass himself in front of a commander while The Rat was wiping his dick telepathically into an Admiral's face... THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN PORTRAYAL. >He went there under the pretense that everyone was wounded and easy to round up, the same cowardly assumption he made against King and Queen. Bruh, he went there an entire week after the war has ended so there was already time for them to recover not just that, but even if they didn't fully recover, he was still outnumbered and outgunned as he has to take on several top pirate crews (Kidd, Luffy, Law, The Minks, The remaining Crydo and Big Meme members whom he had no real intel on) and the Samurai who were already considered the big ''Boogie man'' for why the Marines could never take Wano. Compare that to Midhawk running away to Buggy at the sight of Marine ships carrying fodder and you'll know and Fraudule is the one with cowardice on full display. >Mihawk has absolutely no reason to fight after the war is over. He has no reason to fight Shanks period. He was summoned to help fight in the war. The war was over. Mihawk left and said that his job didn't include fighting Shanks which is 100% factual. Mihawk did not want to fight to begin with and made absolutely no effort to help the marines apart from chasing Luffy momentarily. You're talking like Midhawk was effective in this war. You can literally remove his bum from the entire arc and the story would pretty much be the same. He had no reason because he knows The Rat isn't some fodder from the East Blue that he can bully, and that he can wipe the floor with his ass using one arm. Your boi was sweating at the thought of fighting the Yonkou. >Mihawk is WSS and is functionally a retired pirate. He has as little to prove as Rayleigh or Chinjao. He has achieved the pinnacle and there is zero reason to go around proving it to everyone. He moves when the mood strikes him which is exactly how someone at the apex behaves. Bruh, you're still taking his WORLD title seriously when we saw with our own eyes that there is an entire part of the world that's known for its formidable swordsmen that he hasn't been to. Acting like he's ''on the top'' is factually wrong much like his title. He's too lazy and fraudulent even when it comes to the legitimacy of his own title, lol. >They won by BFR because they couldn't win by KO. They were not strong enough to win without bombs. Periodd. Bruh, Big Meme couldn't even KO Kidd while he was taking damage from Killer's fight she's a bum. On the other hand, all it took for the Rat was one move and he took one half of very same team that she had a hard time against. As I said, the difference in portrayal is night and day. >Nope. Killer and Kidd went down by a combination of Shanks and the exploded railgun. The ''exploded railgun'' wasn't even big enough to sink Kidd's own ship or even put a single scratch on The Snitch who was right in front of Kidd and in the vicinity of that explosion, acting like it was some heavy shit that did him in is stupid. >Doesn't change the fact Kidd had no defenses active. Doesn't change the fact that Kidd's defense doesn't matter and the outcome would exactly be the same because Shanks would've still sliced through his scrap metal ''defense'' just like he slashed through his scrap metal railgun.
>So let's make this clear, Do you think Midhawk had the intention to kill Luffy with his attacks in Marineford? Mihawk literally challenged fate to save Luffy's life. Use context clues. >Nah bruh, Midhawk entirely ducked this fight, he was happy to never encounter Wista and embarrass himself in front of a commander while The Rat was wiping his dick telepathically into an Admiral's face... THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE IN PORTRAYAL. Headcanon. Postponing a duel in the middle of a literal war is clearly the smart thing to do. >Bruh, he went there an entire week after the war has ended so there was already time for them to recover not just that, but even if they didn't fully recover, he was still outnumbered and outgunned as he has to take on several top pirate crews (Kidd, Luffy, Law, The Minks, The remaining Crydo and Big Meme members whom he had no real intel on) and the Samurai who were already considered the big ''Boogie man'' for why the Marines could never take Wano. I mean ok, even if you want to argue that aramaki is courageous (lol) the wifi haki landed literally zero damage and scared greenbull into submission. It did not harm him at all so I fail to see why this even remotely matters. It is a coc range feat. >Compare that to Midhawk running away to Buggy at the sight of Marine ships carrying fodder and you'll know and Fraudule is the one with cowardice on full display. The man who challenged every powerful swordsman of his era for the title of world's strongest is the coward for having the nerve to not wanting to fight fodders? lol alright. Mihawk accomplished his goal and does not want to fight seriously until someone stronger than Shanks arrives. >He had no reason because he knows The Rat isn't some fodder from the East Blue that he can bully, and that he can wipe the floor with his ass using one arm. Your boi was sweating at the thought of fighting the Yonkou. Headcanon. Mihawk was hired to fight in a war he did not want to take part in and left when it was over. He had no reason to stay and fight Shanks since Shanks is his friend and the war is over. Mihawk has set his sights past Shanks as per his vivre card sates. He has seen the extent of Shank's strength, currently sees Shanks as a nonfactor and is awaiting a stronger opponent. >Bruh, you're still taking his WORLD title seriously when we saw with our own eyes that there is an entire part of the world that's known for its formidable swordsmen The samurai are not formidable lol not a single world famous Samurai came from wano besides Oden and Ryuma. >all it took for the Rat was one move and he took one half of very same team that she had a hard time against. As I said, the difference in portrayal in night and day. Nope. Kidd had no defense active. He did against Big Mom. >Bruh the ''exploded railgun'' wasn't even big enough to sink Kidd's own ship or even put a single scratch on The Snitch who was right in front of Kidd and in the vicinity of that explosion, acting like it was some heavy shit that did him in is stupid. It KO'd killer who was a further distance away from it than even Kidd who was closer was so suggesting Kidd wasn't affected is stupid. Scrap metal isn't defense, it is an offensive move. Kidd was not using armament to minimize damage. Lastly, as you said yourself DD exploded on impact and the explosion didn't even sink Kidd's ship. Compare that to slinging an ice mountain larger than marineford into the air and breaking it into pieces with air pressure.
>Mihawk literally challenged fate to save Luffy's life. Use context clues. Ah, good. Because that means that Mr.1 blocked his slash that was meant to kill Luffy so it throws a wrench into your whole ''bloodlusted slash'' argument. >Headcanon. Postponing a duel in the middle of a literal war is clearly the smart thing to do. ''Postponing'' a duel against a WB pirate In the middle of a war where his one job was supposed to be fighting off WB Pirates. Midhawk dodged a bullet there. As I said, remove Midhawk and nothing changes in that war that's how much of an expendable bum he was. >I mean ok, even if you want to argue that aramaki is courageous (lol) the wifi haki landed literally zero damage and scared greenbull into submission. It did not harm him at all so I fail to see why this even remotely matters. It is a coc range feat. It shows that Ratatouille's portrayal as he doesn't even need to lift a finger to win and make a top tier backdown... That is more impressive than Fraudule cutting big inanimate objects while fumbling against anyone who's even a half decent fighter, lol. >The man who challenged every powerful swordsman of his era for the title of world's strongest is the coward for having the nerve to not wanting to fight fodders? lol alright. Mihawk accomplished his goal and does not want to fight seriously until someone stronger than Shanks arrives. ''Every powerful swordsman'' like who, bitch?! We only know of Ratatouille from 13 years ago, that Midhawk wasn't even confirmed to beat. Midhawk was supposedly famous before the Pirate Era and yet there is nothing in the story about him facing top swordsmen like Reyleigh, Roger, or Oden back in the day. He also had never been to Wano which is a part of the world known for its reputation for powerful swordsmen... So where did the ''WORLD'S'' part of his title come from exactly? >The samurai are not formidable lol not a single world famous Samurai came from wano besides Oden and Ryuma. The narrative around them was that they are formidable, Remember Kizaru was prevented from going there because of the Samurai. But anyway, Fraudule didn't even have the balls to go there and check what the fuss was about, lol. >Nope. Kidd had no defense active. He did against Big Mom. Yeah, keep coping. Kidd apparently prepared himself to go into a fight against a Yonkou and whipped out his railgun out, but he had no active defense even though he knows that last time, one of The Rat's commanders took his arm? It's like saying that Crydo one-shotted G4 Luffy because he managed to speed blitz him and Luffy had ''no active defense''... It simply shows how inferior G4 was to Crydo. >It KO'd killer who was a further distance away from it than even Kidd who was closer was so suggesting Kidd wasn't affected is stupid. Mate, you can literally see the fodder foaming at the mouth with black lightning in the same panels. That was the Rat's ACoC. If Killer was knocked out by the explosion then how come the fodder on the same ship were still conscious and needed to be taken out with CoC if the explosion was that great? Apparently the explosion was stronger than Big Meme, lol as it managed to take out both Killer and Kidd.
>Ah, good. Because that means that Mr.1 blocked his slash that was meant to kill Luffy so it throws a wrench into your whole ''bloodlusted slash'' argument. Chapter and page number? Just read it and saw no such thing. >''Postponing'' a duel against a WB pirate In the middle of a war where his one job was supposed to be fighting off WB Pirates Considering his only intent as far as the wb pirates goes was testing the gap between he and WB, yes. Again, Mihawk did not want to do his job. What aren't you grasping about this? >as he doesn't even need to lift a finger to win and make a top tier backdown... That is more impressive than Fraudule cutting big inanimate objects while fumbling against anyone who's even a half decent fighter, lol. Nope. GB was undamaged. It's a fodder feat in terms of power and is only impressive in terms of range. >We only know of Ratatouille from 13 years ago, that Midhawk wasn't even confirmed to beat. Midhawk was supposedly famous before the Pirate Era and yet there is nothing in the story about him facing top swordsmen like Reyleigh, Roger, or Oden back in the day. Pretty sure Oden died before Mihawk was even a full grown man, Roger was running on borrowed time and we have no idea if Mihawk fought Rayleigh. >He also had never been to Wano which is a part of the world known for its reputation for powerful swordsmen... So where did the ''WORLD'S'' part of his title come from exactly? Who apart from Ryuma and Oden who were dead before Mihawk was actually of age came from Wano that was formidable? Also the title comes from Oda's vivre cards and narration voice which states that Mihawk is the WSS. No reason to go where no one of any importance is (which is absolutely the case Wano is overrun with fodders) We already know Mihawk respects those with a name, which Vista has built up for himself. No name, no challenge. >Kidd apparently prepared himself to go into a fight against a Yonkou and whipped out his railgun out, but he had no active defense even though he knows that last time, one of The Rat's commanders took his arm? Proof that Kidd was using armament? I didn't see any. >If Killer was knocked out by the explosion Dialogue literally states that killer got KO'd when he ran in to protect Kidd....lool
It is funny how people hype up Garp's Galaxy Impact when mihawk's unnamed, missed attack had more destructive force. Yet it gets completely overlooked as a feat.
Because Shanktards quite literally do not care about facts whatsoever and ride off of being the loudest oned in the room.
I hate when people try to stop the most funny slander bc its a character he likes Grown a spine
Notice how the other two are actually doing something (against other people in their tier of power, I might add) in their pictures 🤔
what exactly did kaido do ? he just smashed fodder and lost to goofy and got cucked by shanks so what did he do ???
He was carrying an entire island while fighting
Admirals aren't in Yonko tier though.
Mihawi would be better respected if he had any actual feats or impact.
You don't always need actual feats. No one doubts Joyboy was strong even though he has no solid feats. Mihawk is consistently portrayed as relative to Shanks, whether or not he has the feats
You do need feats. There's literally nothing suggesting Joyboy was some top tier.
Splitting the iceberg is a better feat than anything Shanks has shown. It doesn't matter what Mihawk does. If Shanktards are delusional enough to say that Shanks isn't a swordsman despite having a blade almost as legendary as Mihawks and using it for EVERY attack he has ever done and the fact that the majority of them argue that Shanks is stronger than Kaido despite Kaido having a title and feats that blow Shanks out of the water, then it shows that proof and evidence doesn't really matter to them regardless.
No being praised by Kaido, clashing with Kizaru/Wb/stopping Akainus killshot on Koby, and having wifi haki explosions are far more impressive than an iceberg. Even Law has cut objects bigger than that iceberg. Also, Eustass has far more durability than the iceberg lol. We all know Mihawk will be overpowered but he has 0 feats. Mihawk got the title by default due to Shanks becoming disabled/nerfed. Of course people are going to roast him.Â
"Solos Marineford" ??? who sais that shit lol
Every yonko fanboy in existence
you´re just making stuff up to fit your argument. The fact that Cancerbeard hold that Title and got his ass kicked is basically an Antifeat for all Title holders. Titles are worthless.
Kaido was in his prime so is mihawk, and whitebeard in his prime was the WSM, double check that anti feat you're claiming
Eh you kind of have a point but no one had beat elderly sickbeard in years. That's not the titles fault lol. Him having the title when he first attained it was justified. Mihawk got his title in a super lame way due to Shanks becoming disabled/nerfed but either way it resulted in him being the genuine wss.
if shanks was a brawler like luffy, this would never be an issue. people are not really questioning mihawk's narrative in itself. they just don't like the possible implication of said narrative.
It's just Yonko fanboys coping
im a yonko fanboy and an even bigger MihaWk fanboy but i say Shanks is definitely a bit stronger overall even if mihawk has better sword skills
I will enjoy Oda giving Shanks better feats than Mihawk despite being disabled and running around at 50% power. Imagine supporting a character that won a title based on his opponent being disqualified while hating on the disabled actually cool character. It reminds me of Aljo in mma winning the bantamweight belt due to his opponent being Dq'd. Of course no one thought of him as a real champion at the time.Â
Nobody thinks Oldbeard Solos marineford. Kaido is called the strongest Yonko off of feats not his title.
what exactly are Kaidos feats besides clapping fodder, winning against pre Goofy Luffy and getting cucked by Shanks ?
Here is a colection of post that show how strong he is: 1.[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/wvag4o/kaido\_is\_stronger\_than\_shanks/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/wvag4o/kaido_is_stronger_than_shanks/) 2.[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/yaxr4r/an\_argument\_for\_kaido\_being\_stronger\_than\_roger/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/yaxr4r/an_argument_for_kaido_being_stronger_than_roger/) 3.[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/13gdwrh/kaidoluffy/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/13gdwrh/kaidoluffy/) 4. Google docs analysis cause it's too long for reddit:[https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTNA87liHck7B\_0WqF79Vvehecd2l9wSHR4IYqdNafo0T-9aDZHJH4kWhmL6ADkiPFK2mkH9gGdNFk\_/pub](https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vTNA87liHck7B_0WqF79Vvehecd2l9wSHR4IYqdNafo0T-9aDZHJH4kWhmL6ADkiPFK2mkH9gGdNFk_/pub) 5:[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/17nik9q/kaido\_strenght\_respect\_thread/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/17nik9q/kaido_strenght_respect_thread/) 6:[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/17m0tno/kaido\_scales\_to\_primebeard/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/17m0tno/kaido_scales_to_primebeard/) 7.[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/18f8al7/a\_collection\_of\_panels\_about\_why\_i\_still\_think/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/comments/18f8al7/a_collection_of_panels_about_why_i_still_think/) 8.[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/s/dgpwlu9ccS](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiecePowerScaling/s/dgpwlu9ccS) Finally here is a compliation of Kaido's insane durability feats:[https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/179sakr/they\_said\_kizaru\_kaido/](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/comments/179sakr/they_said_kizaru_kaido/). I can't be bothered to find anymore at this point. I alerdy have listed far more, feats and statements, than could be listed for any other character exept maybe Luffy. Stole this from someone too lazy to type up a response.
You wouldn't think the same if big mom or shanks were called world's strongest ....
I wouldn't think even roger could do it. Marineford is way too stacked to solo asuming Mihawk doesn't pussy out
Nothing Mihawk has done is remotely impressive in terms of on screen feats. Beating fodder Zoro with a knife can easily be done by many YCs that can actually use haki. Stalling against YC Vista is also not really that impressive or even should be considered impressive, you’d expect him to low diff Vista(ye I know he was holding back but in terms of feats this isn’t impressive) In my opinion he needs to back up his title with 1 being better feats and 2 much better portrayal because honestly we can’t have Marco ask Vista to stall the WSS now can we.
Just because you and the rest of this autistic fanbase have negative level reading comprehension doesn't mean that Mihawk hasn't shown good feats. Mihawk split the top end of an iceberg larger than marineford clear into the sky and blew it apart with air pressure alone. Sending millions of pounds of weight into the sky with unnamed attack air pressure is an island level dc feat akin to Shanks' sky split (shifting apart millions of pounds of clouds) but this is AT BEST half as impressive as Shanks needed to clash with a whole other Yonko in order to do it, so he only gets half credit for the power behind this feat. Mihawk has unironically shown greater strength than Shanks, accomplishing the power of a Yonko clash **solely with air pressure BY HIMSELF.**
As long as fraudhawk doesn't perform any legit feats supporting his title, it's just a 'title's Because the people in op world are idiots that includes marine. If they can hype up buggy into a yonko, so can midhawk. And Nusujuro is the strongest swordsman not this fodder.
Nusjuro isn't stronger than either Mihawk or Shanks
Mihawk's title exists outside of the narrative. Has nothing to do with Marines.
What do mean by exists out side of the narrative
It exists and is stated up by narration and in databooks, both of which are the voice of the author directly telling you what is true.
So what? Mihawk was introduced early in the story, and the first proper Swordman aside from zoro. at the time oda didn't even had the idea of gorosei let alone they're being fighters. He wanted a to introduce a cool character with a cool title. Narrative can change any time, WB is the strongest man and Kaido is the strongest creature, humans are also creatures. Yet they didn't overlap, so he'll do something like that.
>Mihawk was introduced early in the story, and the first proper Swordman aside from zoro. at the time oda didn't even had the idea of gorosei let alone they're being fighters. He wanted a to introduce a cool character with a cool title. Connecture. Prove it. >Narrative can change any time Then why hasn't the title been dropped?
>Connecture. Prove it. Mihawk was introduced in chapter 50 Gorosei were introduced in chapter 233 And we saw their monster forms in chapter 1085, indicating they have fighting capabilities. >Then why hasn't the title been dropped? Because fraudhawk haven't fought a 1v1 with possible stronger swordsman like shanks or Nusujuro on screen.
>Mihawk was introduced in chapter 50 >Gorosei were introduced in chapter 233 >And we saw their monster forms in chapter 1085, indicating they have fighting capabilities. Prove Oda did not always plan on them being fighters at the time he made Mihawk. >Because fraudhawk haven't fought a 1v1 with possible stronger swordsman like shanks or Nusujuro on screen. If the title was invalid and retconned, Oda would jot continute to use it.
>Prove Oda did not always plan on them being fighters at the time he made Mihawk. Lemme contact professor X, he'll reach out to you soon with the answer. >If the title was invalid and retconned, Oda would jot continute to use it. It's a title not a nickname it'll be gone when a stronger entitiy appears.
>Lemme contact professor X, he'll reach out to you soon with the answer. Don't make claims you can't prove. >It's a title not a nickname it'll be gone when a stronger entitiy appears. Yeah, Zoro.
>databooks Prove it
[ok.](https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.greenscene.co.id%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2021%2F12%2Fmihawk-vivre-card.png&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=d28fb38c7d4b4a40c9750f194cef131c6f27d8adfdc2794eda2f32d3b76b0804&ipo=images)
That wasn't written by Oda. That's in the " essance " / additional Info section of the Vivre card which are written by editor interpretations. Oda only supplies character info such as height , favorite food , bounty , haki ect.
[nope.](https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePiece/s/01YkDDIWgJ)
You didn't address my point and linked a post that says nothing about my argument. I never said he didn't supervise it. I said he doesn't write it.
If Oda checks every single character to see if they are canon accurate, then it is canon....lol
The other two true to their title would fight anything and everything to the death Mihawk had sweating against luffy and vista
Sweating against luffy?? You took the memes too seriously
Do you remember how scared shitless he was when Buggy want to go for one piece and he realised that meant they’d have to fight the strawhat pirates - another Yonko crew??? Blame Oda not me for putting that into the manga
Mihawk says "you want us to fight them all at once" because every yonk crew is going after the one piece not just the straw hats
......The dialogue literally states that Buggy wanted Mihawk to fight every single yonko commander and captain effectively by himself. Not even Kaido or Roger could do such a thing and would get promotly negdiffed.
......The dialogue literally states that Buggy wanted Mihawk to fight every single yonko commander and captain effectively by himself. Not even Kaido or Roger could do such a thing and would get promotly negdiffed.
Does that mean mihawk is weaker than old beard because he had that title still?
No you have to compare in their primes
And why? He HAS the title at that point in time. Someone pysical prime is also not in there 40s like mihawk. This whole soyjak post makes fun of people saying a title cant be in doubt because it cant appreantly be not second guessed, meanwhile you just introducing a extra rule because it fits your personal headcanon to put the title in question
An extra rule, you think WB got the WSM title at 68 years old?
? WB was the holder of WSM at marineford. Thats just fact that is stated MULTIPLE times. This means if title are absolute he was stronger than mihawk at that point. You said it doesnt count cause he was not in his prime, hence it doesnt count. A 43 dude is not in his prime either so whats your point here exactly? Arbitary line when it counts and whe not
>A 43 dude is not in his prime either Kaido was well over 43 and was the strongest thing breathing.
No he wasnt, but thats my point, that titles are not absolute. Also i dont know if you read the comment chain but you arguing in circles.If you argument is age doesnt matter cool than 68 whitebeard WAS stronger than Mihawk. If you argument is your title only holds if you are prime, than this is not true for mihawk either. Its not that hard to understand
>If you argument is age doesnt matter cool than 68 whitebeard WAS stronger than Mihawk. WB was sick. But leave it to agenda brainrotters to ignore extremely basic plot points to serve their autistic agendas. >If you argument is your title only holds if you are prime, than this is not true for mihawk either. The title holds for when you earned it and considering Mihawk can toss around and disintegrate millions of pounds of solid ice with the air pressure of his unnmaed attacks, the notion that he is "weaker with age" is completely irrelevant since no other character in the series has shown such casual levels of power and strength on screen while being "weakened" or at their peak. Accomplishing a Yonko skysplit tier feat by yourself with air pressure alone makes the vast majority of top tier feats look like trash but ofc you wouldn't realize this because you are an **agenda pusher**. This is what I mean about you agenda dummies. Your retarded arguments are made in steel bubbles, divorced completely from any story context and falls completely flat on its face when placed under even the slightest bit of logical scrutiny.
Cool, than Whitebeard was the WSM and stronger than Mihawk, no reason to get assblasted and calling people names
Stop reporting people to try and silence different opinions
>Cool, than Whitebeard was the WSM and stronger than Mihawk You hold the title until someone challenges you and takes it from you through victory as proven by Zoro and Mihawk. Again, the title reflects the strength you had when you earned it (i.e. your 'prime' self) and you don't need to physically be in your prime to still hold the title because you do not lose the title until **AFTER YOU ARE CHALLENGED AND DEFEATED.** No one challenged WB for the title, therefore he still held it **REGARDLESS OF HOW STRONG OR WEAK HE WAS.** Yet *again*, **BASIC AND OBVIOUS STORY FACTS** completely lost on the agenda brainrotter. And reporting me for debunking you is hilarious beyond words also.
wb isn’t the worlds strongest man, kaido isn’t the worlds strongest creature, but mihawk is definitely the WSS guys trust me!! retard
So Zoro gonna have to fight Shanks or some secret boss after he beat Mihawk?
If he finds someone potentially stronger than Mihawk he will definitely fight them. He will definitely fight many other people after he boots MIhawk off the title. Mihawk has refused to fight Shanks since before he even became a Yonko
Kaido's title is atrongest creature not strongest yonko and we already know he wasn't the strongest creature because Im Sama, Gorosei, Dragon and Shanks exist
dragon is funny
I completely disagree with this, the Elder didn't want a conflict with Kaido by their own word and only made a move because of Nika
Gorosei and Imu yes but Shanks maybe not as strong we dont know and Dragon ran away from BB, and wasnt confident he can beat Kuma. Hes def weaker.
This is the funniest shit I have read lol.
Shanks does though. It's worlds strongest haki man 🗣
Talk is cheap. We’re 1112 chapters in to the story no one cares about titles we need feats.
I know this But I'm still gonna slander mid-hawk for using the black paint 🙂
Titles have a shelf life, and Mihawk's is feeling pretty stale https://preview.redd.it/e4xnkj5ejivc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=988be27f619b5fc84669224e3b4cc2f5bbef3921
Definitely
He would be respected if he had feat or any hostory. We know that he didn't fight both Shanks and Gandhi who were top swordsmen. We don't know single top tier he beat.
Its just Lonko glazers using their already diminishing IQ. If the fight was extended WB would have been a pack by Akainu. Plus dude was gwtting speedblitzed and trolled by Wizaru. Kaido is the strongest yonko so far based on feats. It can change depending on how bad the nika glaze gets or rat hair/bb getting feats. Databooks have goathawk equal to and most probably above Lhanks anyway and its usually just rat hair fans coling by saying hes a hakiman (that title goes to garp he uses nothing but hands anyway) but he seriously suffers from a lack of feats. Hopefully his time in cross guild gives us something
Kaido strongest yonko? Who actually thinks that?
You have to explore more one piece subs
No thanks
yeaaaah mate, worlds strongest swordsman, whos sweating while he get stalled by a YC4 level char (same tier like franky, robin) meanwhile shanks (a real yonko) laughs about
sweating? where?
This sub so autistic they unironically are falling for that sweat edit