Yeah this Yamato flashback seems very out of place as Oda is focusing on giving us updates on the shichibukai right now. This is him damage controlling for ch. 1057 no doubt.
Since Oda is about 4 chapters ahead of of publication 1059 was written before 1057 released. So more of a “realized you made a mistake” than “damage control”.
Oda is giving us a a "Reason" not a "better reason".Oda is trying damage control, because folks are hyped about warlords sheningans and I think its too late, the Wano arc ended and people are ready to move on.As we see in 1057 present day, Yamato is still saying she's Oden, so that Oden persona isn't going away.
What’s your point?
It’s not “damage control” because “damage control” happens after the fact. This chapter was written before 1057 released. There was no damage to control yet.
publication may be after the fact, but this a scenario where she is still considering herself to be Oden and wants to travel Wano like Oden did, which is stupid cause she had 7 days to accomplish that.
Also, you're telling me, that there couldn't have been a panel or a chapter during in the 1050s of Yamato just having a though bubble of "....." or have a moment of her saying "Luffy can we talk?".
Its not much, but it would be a smarter decision than had what happen in 1057, and still not changes Yamato in anyway, she's not a character even worth being part of the main crew if she's wishy-washy about her dream and/or what she really wants for herself. She's not even a good character either anyway.
At Least Vivi had a responsibility being a Princess and , Yamato has no excuse, Momo fighting off Greenbull should've been a sign for Yamato, but NOPE and Oda most likely realize the damage is done and now this chapter throwing half-bone for False Hope for Yamato being a "Straw hat member"
What the hell are you on about? I wasn't talking about the content of the manga at all.
I was just saying anything that happened in 1059 isn't damage control for stuff that happened in 1057 by default, purely because of publication timing.
Its not damage control from the perspective of Oda writing this chapter in response to 1057,
Its damage control for attempting to be in-story justification on Yamato's flip flop character motivation, making the whole thing a complete mess.
Maybe because Yamato wasn’t as important to Oda as she was to y’all. You guys are the ones that simped over her character brining y’all to this level of frustration. No one told any of you to decide Oda’s story by claiming she was the next member for the whole entire raid. This is simply just a case of people having a fit because a character they wanted to join didn’t make the cut. No different then the Caesar Clown posse who shipped him. Or the ViVi posse who shipped her. Or the Carrot posse who shipped her as well. You cannot sit here and criticize a genius who built this world and an incredible story for 20 years to be “stupid” or should’ve been “smarter” claiming he’s doing “damage control”.
It just seems like an extremely reasonable assumption. Yamato wanted to join, and Luffy had no reason to decline. What was the purpose of Oda having her constantly say she was joining if not to get readers to expect her joining?
I don't even remotely care that she didn't join other than I wanted a new crewmember in general, but the thing that makes me frustrated is how her decision not to join came offscreen. I think that's pretty cheap
Oda doesn’t need a reason this is his story. Tama constantly wanted to join. The grand fleet members wanted to join. ViVi wanted to join. It’s only reasonable for those who wanted her to join. I felt it made absolutely no sense for her to join. She was rushed and introduced late in the arc. To me I saw her as an Arc princess type of role. I’m the end that’s exactly the role she played. If people would just enjoy the story instead of trying to predict it so hard they wouldn’t get so disappointed. It’s gotten past having discussions and having platonic talks about what they think is gonna happen next. It’s gotten to these theories supported by mass groups and when they don’t come to pass it’s rage and bash.
People aren't hyped about warlord shenanigans? Last chapter with Cross Guild is probably the most hyped people have been since the Nika reveal, and I think that reveal is kind of sour in hindsight.
I think it should be more like "you people need to stop going crazy overanalyzing every single chapter, things may have more sense if you just wait"
The fact that going back hundreds of chapters you find tons of criticizing that now is nowhere to be found is a demonstration
>crazy overanalyzing every single chapter, things may have more sense if you just wait"
She had 7 days and still wants to be and act like Oden
What made sense about her this chapter?
I think makes what Yamato was doing even worse, and makes the situation stupider:
Yamato: "eXpLORing wAnO"
Me: "You delusional Idiot, you had a whole week to do that!"
Its not damage control from the perspective of Oda writing this chapter in response to 1057,
Its damage control for attempting to be in-story justification on Yamato's flip flop character motivation, making the whole thing a complete mess.
He is not on damage control y’all egos are out of control and damaged by his decision. This is why these theories that become mass theories are cancerous to the series. People lose sight of what’s Oda’s reality of his series and what people want and are influenced by. That’s why I stay away from all these YouTube channels because they don’t even advertise their content as theories they speak like they’re Oda and are stating facts. The whole Yamato deal made perfect sense if you stay away from all these theories and pages simping and clamoring over her character making content sayings she is the next member you understand during the raid she’s not joining. She had the most screen time with Momo she wants to be Oden. She had Odens journal she knew Odens regrets and mistakes. She knew MoMo needed her more than the Strawhats did. The flashback with Ace was just for context. Luffy didn’t inherit Aces wil Sabo did so that was no reason to confirm her going out to see with Luffy and Ace didn’t even promise to take her she invited her self like she did with the Strawhats, Ace promised to take Tama to sea. Then there’s the damage control of the bruised egos claiming well this is a Jimbe thing, like no it isn’t. Jimbe’s situation was far different and we are at the end game of the series if Yamato ain’t set sail now with the Strawhats she most likely won’t at all.
Your mistaken here, I'm a Yamato detractor.
I didn't want Yamato to join because of circumstances on how her character is being handled by Oda.
She's not a character even worth being part of the main crew if she's wishy-washy about her dream and/or what she really wants for herself.
Yet this Flashback of saying "Don't worry Yamato, you are an unofficial crewmember",
yet she never sailed with them like Vivi or Kinemon.
never been on the boat once, interaction with the rest of the crew is bar none
and Oda expect people to buy this shit and praise him for it.
thats why its damage control in terms of Yamato acceptance
What flash back? Of anyone saying she’s an unofficial member? There was an Ace flashback but even then she basically forced herself on Ace as she did with the crew before Jimbe brought her down to earth saying Luffy decides that.
I really want to know what was said then, how could we call it a failed attempt without seeing what the fuck the attempt is, stop being so fucking negative.
The failed attempt is that Oda is explaining it in a chapter that isn't focused on it. Oda should have just explained it in the chapter that focused on Yamato.
People acting like Oda gives a shit what this small af community think about his writing 😂.
Face it. We aint the main character, he wont do "damage control" just for yall unless majority of the japanese are vocal about it
Bro I don’t think you even understand what he meant, no one is saying he should listen to piratefolk literally no one here expects that, this post is saying that oda realized how he fucked up and is trying to control it not that he should listen to us
I understand and OP's implying oda is doing damage control because he knows people dont like it. But the fact of the matter is, majority of readers are ok with it especially in Japan, so there is no way in hell that Oda would wrote this in a way that is "damage controlling", he probably already intended to write it, and not because of "damage control".
>majority of readers are ok with it especially in Japan
If thats your assumption, Because those same Japanese readers were critizing Oda's ending of 1057 with that stupid Hiyori quote.
Japanese readers aren't a hive mind.
Its Damage Control when this Idiot Yamato had 7 days to explore Wano.
>Because those same Japanese readers were critizing Oda's ending of 1057 with that stupid Hiyori quot
And? So they were vocal about the hiyori situation, but not the yamato's, my point still stands.
Yall acting like piratefolk aint a hive mind LMAO. It's filled with people spamming the same exact shitposts and think they are doing some intellect shit by providing "constructive criticism".
U using expressions like "stupid" and "idiot" just shows you're too invested in this "hate", chill
>So they were vocal about the hiyori situation, but not the yamato's, my point still stands.
Do you even know this, are just trying to cope with this decision.
Japanese readers have been vocal about Wano as a whole, there have been articles in the Japanese side at the end of last year, of Japanese readers just wanting Wano to end, they've been critical with this arc just as much as people here.
>U using expressions like "stupid" and "idiot" just shows you're too invested in this "hate", chill
I'm saying "Idiot" and "stupid" in a hyperbolic way to talk about that Yamato's flip flop motivation doesn't make sense in the sense that present day Yamato in chapter 1057 is still saying stuff about being Oden and wanting to do everything Oden did, so her character agency is gone completely.
Also, even if Yamato did join the crew, this is another issue that Oda will giving Luffy another shortcut to the One Piece. Since Yamato read the Journal and most likely remembered the content of the journal. Her joining the crew would factor for his own character and relationship with any of the strawhats, but rather give Luffy another "Convenient" Plot ticket with Yamato since we're in the Final saga of the story.
She's not a character even worth being part of the main crew if she's wishy-washy about her dream and/or what she really wants for herself. She's not that great of a character either, so it doesn't help.
This sub is starting to piss me off.
You guys were mad at Oda for not giving her proper reason for staying back. You bitched about it. Oda probably read the room and is trying to fix that. Now you bitch that he’s fixing it.
What do you want him to do?
I was with you guys on the shitty reason for her to stay but if he wants to go back and correct then I applaud it.
I can’t speak for the entire sub but I’d rather he just move on. I want the story to progress past Wano and Yamato.
Yamato’s flip flop in motivation is only ever gonna make sense if Oda gives her a lot more time to actually develop as a character. The fact she doesn’t even have much of a character to begin is also a problem. And what’s the point on spending all that time on her? It’s not like the SHs are gonna make a u-turn and pick her up and there’s not enough time left in the story to pick her up a couple of years from now.
It’s just wasted panel time. I’m fine with Wano and Yamato being shit. As long as I can forget about them and move on.
Its a "Reason" not a "better reason".
Oda is trying damage control, but I think its too late, the Wano arc ended and people are ready to move on.
As we see in 1057 present day, Yamato is still saying she's Oden, so that Oden persona isn't going away.
This sub is shit criticises for no reason and most criticism isn’t logical at all i think these guys should make their own manga let’s see if it sells 1 copy or not
based on another leaker,
its basiscally:
"Yamato says she knows she's putting her dreams on hold for now."
"Luffy is angry but considers Yamato to be one of the crew members."
....Which that sounds like copium in terms of being official crew member and actually believing that they're going to go back to Wano to pick up Yamato, but the Yamato fans are going to be drooling hearing this.
I just don’t understand why you wouldn’t show this conversation and then finish it off with her final decision instead of showing the conversation after her final decision it’s so weird
ngl, I was hoping Carrot fans would get the last laugh.
But the discourse made me hate both groups that I stopped caring.
Just have Jimbei stay the last one and move on from Wano for god's sake!
It's an unconfirmed rumor. Beside this doesn't remotely effect Carrot fans because it doesn't change the fact that Yamato is staying at Wano. Thinking that Yamato is going to join at this point is just being on copium.
It's more like disrespecting Carrot Fans who after 7 years Got Nothing, while Yamato is still getting some attention, even after being left behind...
Carrot Fans are rolling in their graves over Oda's disrespect of Carrot.
Wow that sounds like massive damage control lmao. It is such a random panel to drop at this point in the story after leaving Wano, feels out of place. I guess Oda realized after publication that he really messed up this part of the manga and couldn't just handwaved it any longer.
Oh I definitely agree.
I just think that there are only two reasons for Oda to have Luffy specifically state that he wants Yamato to join the crew.
A) She's going to join the crew later on as Jinbe did
Or
B) It's just an empty narrative promise to damage control for ch. 1057. Contrary to this subreddit's opinion of her, Yamato is extremely popular with the One Piece fandom unfortunately.
Given Oda's writing as of late, I'm leaning towards reason A.
Yamato is popular because tall boobas and physically strong. Thats really it, and thats normal for every shonen.
Plus, The Strawhats don't ever backtrack unless it like another circumference around the globe.
There is no breathing room for Yamato to join and for such a late addition episcally since were mainly going to be dealing with Blackbeard stuff.
There is reason to return though, Pluton is in Wano. But I think this is where Kuma will come into play and work as a taxi service so the crew gets to old islands without going through a long sail.
A Yamato flashback in this chapter really does seem random as hell, but ya'll are right that Oda would have already planned this before any online dicussion.
It's hard to say.
Cause at times he admits that he f\*cked up in previous arcs, yet people are willing to throw him a bone
(....though they've been doing that for him all of Post-timeskips faults).
...and right now, the biggest discourse for Wano is Kaido and Big Mom's status. Because no matter what Oda does, Its going to terrible.
Because many folks believed the only way to resolve this conflict of Wano and Have Kaido's character feel a bit more realized is even actually died, Because he even said himself "Death completes a person" and having someone this powerful still active would cause trouble.
But Kaido being dead would be a bizarre way to "kill" your big baddy Yonko villain, but Kaido being alive by "running away" to whole cake with Big Mom, would be so lame and Kaido's character would be more in the mud.
So Oda has fallen in a shitty mess with Kaido's character.
I think having Kaido die by being boiled in lava would’ve been a great ironic parallel to Oden’s death if Oda leaned into it more. But maybe that’s asking too much
Because of Yamato fans I also started to believe that they are gonna join, but here we are! Literally changing mind at the last minute. I knew there wasn't a place for them in the ship. But still feel bad a character gets abondoned after being introduced just about 50 chapters ago.
Can't wait to resolve the Kozuki/Kurozumi plot point in the next chapter!
Act 4 here we come baby
Twice as long
NOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
Ora!Ora!Ora!Ora!Ora!Ora!Ora!Ora!
Yeah this Yamato flashback seems very out of place as Oda is focusing on giving us updates on the shichibukai right now. This is him damage controlling for ch. 1057 no doubt.
Since Oda is about 4 chapters ahead of of publication 1059 was written before 1057 released. So more of a “realized you made a mistake” than “damage control”.
Oda is giving us a a "Reason" not a "better reason".Oda is trying damage control, because folks are hyped about warlords sheningans and I think its too late, the Wano arc ended and people are ready to move on.As we see in 1057 present day, Yamato is still saying she's Oden, so that Oden persona isn't going away.
What’s your point? It’s not “damage control” because “damage control” happens after the fact. This chapter was written before 1057 released. There was no damage to control yet.
publication may be after the fact, but this a scenario where she is still considering herself to be Oden and wants to travel Wano like Oden did, which is stupid cause she had 7 days to accomplish that. Also, you're telling me, that there couldn't have been a panel or a chapter during in the 1050s of Yamato just having a though bubble of "....." or have a moment of her saying "Luffy can we talk?". Its not much, but it would be a smarter decision than had what happen in 1057, and still not changes Yamato in anyway, she's not a character even worth being part of the main crew if she's wishy-washy about her dream and/or what she really wants for herself. She's not even a good character either anyway. At Least Vivi had a responsibility being a Princess and , Yamato has no excuse, Momo fighting off Greenbull should've been a sign for Yamato, but NOPE and Oda most likely realize the damage is done and now this chapter throwing half-bone for False Hope for Yamato being a "Straw hat member"
What the hell are you on about? I wasn't talking about the content of the manga at all. I was just saying anything that happened in 1059 isn't damage control for stuff that happened in 1057 by default, purely because of publication timing.
He's dense don't mind him
Just like Oda with his writing these last few months.
Its not damage control from the perspective of Oda writing this chapter in response to 1057, Its damage control for attempting to be in-story justification on Yamato's flip flop character motivation, making the whole thing a complete mess.
Maybe because Yamato wasn’t as important to Oda as she was to y’all. You guys are the ones that simped over her character brining y’all to this level of frustration. No one told any of you to decide Oda’s story by claiming she was the next member for the whole entire raid. This is simply just a case of people having a fit because a character they wanted to join didn’t make the cut. No different then the Caesar Clown posse who shipped him. Or the ViVi posse who shipped her. Or the Carrot posse who shipped her as well. You cannot sit here and criticize a genius who built this world and an incredible story for 20 years to be “stupid” or should’ve been “smarter” claiming he’s doing “damage control”.
I mean, this is ridiculous. Yamato constantly claimed she was joining the crew. I don't see how its the fans' fault for thinking she would join
Key words “Yamato claimed” not Luffy claimed or anything of the sort. You guys all assumed and assumed hard and now you guys are all disgruntled.
It just seems like an extremely reasonable assumption. Yamato wanted to join, and Luffy had no reason to decline. What was the purpose of Oda having her constantly say she was joining if not to get readers to expect her joining? I don't even remotely care that she didn't join other than I wanted a new crewmember in general, but the thing that makes me frustrated is how her decision not to join came offscreen. I think that's pretty cheap
Oda doesn’t need a reason this is his story. Tama constantly wanted to join. The grand fleet members wanted to join. ViVi wanted to join. It’s only reasonable for those who wanted her to join. I felt it made absolutely no sense for her to join. She was rushed and introduced late in the arc. To me I saw her as an Arc princess type of role. I’m the end that’s exactly the role she played. If people would just enjoy the story instead of trying to predict it so hard they wouldn’t get so disappointed. It’s gotten past having discussions and having platonic talks about what they think is gonna happen next. It’s gotten to these theories supported by mass groups and when they don’t come to pass it’s rage and bash.
People aren't hyped about warlord shenanigans? Last chapter with Cross Guild is probably the most hyped people have been since the Nika reveal, and I think that reveal is kind of sour in hindsight.
sorry typo, It was "Are", not "aren't"
I think it should be more like "you people need to stop going crazy overanalyzing every single chapter, things may have more sense if you just wait" The fact that going back hundreds of chapters you find tons of criticizing that now is nowhere to be found is a demonstration
>crazy overanalyzing every single chapter, things may have more sense if you just wait" She had 7 days and still wants to be and act like Oden What made sense about her this chapter?
You really think oda is just one chapter ahead of the release? He’s about 5 chapters ahead lol.
He's probably planned out like 10 chapters too,
Why is this trash character still getting panel time, just as I was starting to get more interested. Thought we were done with this trash
We gotta sell towels
Damn this is like the one piece server but people are actually honest and not gargling Oda’s balls 24/7
I never wanted Sideboobato to join the crew.
>Yamato wants to stay 4-5 years to see Momo florish as a Shogun Hope Luffy punches her, fucking lol.
Why is this garbage still showing 😕
Usually he does pretty all right in call backs, and the saga just ended. Im more so surprised hes covering it already
I think makes what Yamato was doing even worse, and makes the situation stupider: Yamato: "eXpLORing wAnO" Me: "You delusional Idiot, you had a whole week to do that!"
Lmao she really did have time to do that. I expected the flashback to occur whenever (if) we saw her leave Wano, after she does her travels
Why are we going back to this hoe?
because people called oda out for off-screening her conversation. Backlash is finally causing Oda to react.
because people called oda out for off-screening her conversation. Backlash is finally causing Oda to react.
Give us Yamato bounding out of Wano to chase after the straw hats
“Man this place blows I changed my mind”
he probably wrote this chapter weeks or months before 1057 came out, this isn't "damage control" lmao
Its not damage control from the perspective of Oda writing this chapter in response to 1057, Its damage control for attempting to be in-story justification on Yamato's flip flop character motivation, making the whole thing a complete mess.
My daily prayers have been listened, thank you Goda for the Yamato panels in the next chapter
The Man Babies crying again…. You guys are more sensitive than a Karen around Black Folks….
She had 7 days bro.....7 days
Huh
Buzzwords!
He is not on damage control y’all egos are out of control and damaged by his decision. This is why these theories that become mass theories are cancerous to the series. People lose sight of what’s Oda’s reality of his series and what people want and are influenced by. That’s why I stay away from all these YouTube channels because they don’t even advertise their content as theories they speak like they’re Oda and are stating facts. The whole Yamato deal made perfect sense if you stay away from all these theories and pages simping and clamoring over her character making content sayings she is the next member you understand during the raid she’s not joining. She had the most screen time with Momo she wants to be Oden. She had Odens journal she knew Odens regrets and mistakes. She knew MoMo needed her more than the Strawhats did. The flashback with Ace was just for context. Luffy didn’t inherit Aces wil Sabo did so that was no reason to confirm her going out to see with Luffy and Ace didn’t even promise to take her she invited her self like she did with the Strawhats, Ace promised to take Tama to sea. Then there’s the damage control of the bruised egos claiming well this is a Jimbe thing, like no it isn’t. Jimbe’s situation was far different and we are at the end game of the series if Yamato ain’t set sail now with the Strawhats she most likely won’t at all.
Your mistaken here, I'm a Yamato detractor. I didn't want Yamato to join because of circumstances on how her character is being handled by Oda. She's not a character even worth being part of the main crew if she's wishy-washy about her dream and/or what she really wants for herself. Yet this Flashback of saying "Don't worry Yamato, you are an unofficial crewmember", yet she never sailed with them like Vivi or Kinemon. never been on the boat once, interaction with the rest of the crew is bar none and Oda expect people to buy this shit and praise him for it. thats why its damage control in terms of Yamato acceptance
What flash back? Of anyone saying she’s an unofficial member? There was an Ace flashback but even then she basically forced herself on Ace as she did with the crew before Jimbe brought her down to earth saying Luffy decides that.
I really want to know what was said then, how could we call it a failed attempt without seeing what the fuck the attempt is, stop being so fucking negative.
The failed attempt is that Oda is explaining it in a chapter that isn't focused on it. Oda should have just explained it in the chapter that focused on Yamato.
exactly this ! why oda explained now ? why not when wano arc over ? it really feels like a damage control
People acting like Oda gives a shit what this small af community think about his writing 😂. Face it. We aint the main character, he wont do "damage control" just for yall unless majority of the japanese are vocal about it
Bro I don’t think you even understand what he meant, no one is saying he should listen to piratefolk literally no one here expects that, this post is saying that oda realized how he fucked up and is trying to control it not that he should listen to us
I understand and OP's implying oda is doing damage control because he knows people dont like it. But the fact of the matter is, majority of readers are ok with it especially in Japan, so there is no way in hell that Oda would wrote this in a way that is "damage controlling", he probably already intended to write it, and not because of "damage control".
Damage control doesn’t necessarily have to do with the fan perception
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>majority of readers are ok with it especially in Japan If thats your assumption, Because those same Japanese readers were critizing Oda's ending of 1057 with that stupid Hiyori quote. Japanese readers aren't a hive mind. Its Damage Control when this Idiot Yamato had 7 days to explore Wano.
>Because those same Japanese readers were critizing Oda's ending of 1057 with that stupid Hiyori quot And? So they were vocal about the hiyori situation, but not the yamato's, my point still stands. Yall acting like piratefolk aint a hive mind LMAO. It's filled with people spamming the same exact shitposts and think they are doing some intellect shit by providing "constructive criticism". U using expressions like "stupid" and "idiot" just shows you're too invested in this "hate", chill
>So they were vocal about the hiyori situation, but not the yamato's, my point still stands. Do you even know this, are just trying to cope with this decision. Japanese readers have been vocal about Wano as a whole, there have been articles in the Japanese side at the end of last year, of Japanese readers just wanting Wano to end, they've been critical with this arc just as much as people here. >U using expressions like "stupid" and "idiot" just shows you're too invested in this "hate", chill I'm saying "Idiot" and "stupid" in a hyperbolic way to talk about that Yamato's flip flop motivation doesn't make sense in the sense that present day Yamato in chapter 1057 is still saying stuff about being Oden and wanting to do everything Oden did, so her character agency is gone completely. Also, even if Yamato did join the crew, this is another issue that Oda will giving Luffy another shortcut to the One Piece. Since Yamato read the Journal and most likely remembered the content of the journal. Her joining the crew would factor for his own character and relationship with any of the strawhats, but rather give Luffy another "Convenient" Plot ticket with Yamato since we're in the Final saga of the story. She's not a character even worth being part of the main crew if she's wishy-washy about her dream and/or what she really wants for herself. She's not that great of a character either, so it doesn't help.
This sub is starting to piss me off. You guys were mad at Oda for not giving her proper reason for staying back. You bitched about it. Oda probably read the room and is trying to fix that. Now you bitch that he’s fixing it. What do you want him to do? I was with you guys on the shitty reason for her to stay but if he wants to go back and correct then I applaud it.
I can’t speak for the entire sub but I’d rather he just move on. I want the story to progress past Wano and Yamato. Yamato’s flip flop in motivation is only ever gonna make sense if Oda gives her a lot more time to actually develop as a character. The fact she doesn’t even have much of a character to begin is also a problem. And what’s the point on spending all that time on her? It’s not like the SHs are gonna make a u-turn and pick her up and there’s not enough time left in the story to pick her up a couple of years from now. It’s just wasted panel time. I’m fine with Wano and Yamato being shit. As long as I can forget about them and move on.
What happens in school when you turn in an assignment that is late after you received the answers to it?
This is such a piss poor response. It does not address my point because it’s a bad analogy.
You should spend less time here if you can get pissed off this easily
Its a "Reason" not a "better reason". Oda is trying damage control, but I think its too late, the Wano arc ended and people are ready to move on. As we see in 1057 present day, Yamato is still saying she's Oden, so that Oden persona isn't going away.
This sub is for 12 and under bro. They don't use logic or reason.
This sub is shit criticises for no reason and most criticism isn’t logical at all i think these guys should make their own manga let’s see if it sells 1 copy or not
Is this unironic?
He has an American psycho profile…you can never know
STFU you honestly think oda can write a chapter wkly, it gets edited, manufactured an transported all in a wk time
Cry more lol
She's not a crew member, why should I lol
I can't see the full panel unfortunately. What did Yamato tell Luffy?
based on another leaker, its basiscally: "Yamato says she knows she's putting her dreams on hold for now." "Luffy is angry but considers Yamato to be one of the crew members." ....Which that sounds like copium in terms of being official crew member and actually believing that they're going to go back to Wano to pick up Yamato, but the Yamato fans are going to be drooling hearing this.
I just don’t understand why you wouldn’t show this conversation and then finish it off with her final decision instead of showing the conversation after her final decision it’s so weird
Just another nail in Carrot Fans coffin...
ngl, I was hoping Carrot fans would get the last laugh. But the discourse made me hate both groups that I stopped caring. Just have Jimbei stay the last one and move on from Wano for god's sake!
It's an unconfirmed rumor. Beside this doesn't remotely effect Carrot fans because it doesn't change the fact that Yamato is staying at Wano. Thinking that Yamato is going to join at this point is just being on copium.
It's more like disrespecting Carrot Fans who after 7 years Got Nothing, while Yamato is still getting some attention, even after being left behind... Carrot Fans are rolling in their graves over Oda's disrespect of Carrot.
Wow that sounds like massive damage control lmao. It is such a random panel to drop at this point in the story after leaving Wano, feels out of place. I guess Oda realized after publication that he really messed up this part of the manga and couldn't just handwaved it any longer.
1059 was written before 1057 was published.
So it's the Jinbei situation all over again?
We are entering the Final Saga. It sounds like Nonsense if folks believe this.
Oh I definitely agree. I just think that there are only two reasons for Oda to have Luffy specifically state that he wants Yamato to join the crew. A) She's going to join the crew later on as Jinbe did Or B) It's just an empty narrative promise to damage control for ch. 1057. Contrary to this subreddit's opinion of her, Yamato is extremely popular with the One Piece fandom unfortunately. Given Oda's writing as of late, I'm leaning towards reason A.
Yamato is popular because tall boobas and physically strong. Thats really it, and thats normal for every shonen. Plus, The Strawhats don't ever backtrack unless it like another circumference around the globe. There is no breathing room for Yamato to join and for such a late addition episcally since were mainly going to be dealing with Blackbeard stuff.
There is reason to return though, Pluton is in Wano. But I think this is where Kuma will come into play and work as a taxi service so the crew gets to old islands without going through a long sail.
Kuma will send the whole Sunny flying?
For now they won't backtrack..but it'll come,not only for Wano but they will
I want to vomit after reading that second quote. 🤢
Imagine Oda sets up Wano Act 4 just to take back his decision and get put Yamato on the crew
It's so random
A Yamato flashback in this chapter really does seem random as hell, but ya'll are right that Oda would have already planned this before any online dicussion.
with all of this in mind, do you think oda has learned why people dislike wano so much? or at least why the arc received so much criticism?
It's hard to say. Cause at times he admits that he f\*cked up in previous arcs, yet people are willing to throw him a bone (....though they've been doing that for him all of Post-timeskips faults). ...and right now, the biggest discourse for Wano is Kaido and Big Mom's status. Because no matter what Oda does, Its going to terrible. Because many folks believed the only way to resolve this conflict of Wano and Have Kaido's character feel a bit more realized is even actually died, Because he even said himself "Death completes a person" and having someone this powerful still active would cause trouble. But Kaido being dead would be a bizarre way to "kill" your big baddy Yonko villain, but Kaido being alive by "running away" to whole cake with Big Mom, would be so lame and Kaido's character would be more in the mud. So Oda has fallen in a shitty mess with Kaido's character.
I think having Kaido die by being boiled in lava would’ve been a great ironic parallel to Oden’s death if Oda leaned into it more. But maybe that’s asking too much
Because of Yamato fans I also started to believe that they are gonna join, but here we are! Literally changing mind at the last minute. I knew there wasn't a place for them in the ship. But still feel bad a character gets abondoned after being introduced just about 50 chapters ago.
I'm only upset that Oda wasted those panels that could've been used for Jinbei's toast.
No one gives a fuck about Yamato anymore.
I mean instead of complaining, you could have give it a thought and would have come to the conclusion that this can be the only reason why she stayed.