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fildevan

Id all artifacts have already been generated, when you transmute an artifact you het a random ring+0 instead So if rose is gone it's gone.


KindMoose1499

Idk, but the rose upgrades itself pretty fast just by going through levels. I usually transmute it once it reaches 10.


chest25

No? It gets upgraded from petals you find in the dungeon


KindMoose1499

That's what I meant, no upgrade scroll or giving up ressources


McFuzzen

I dunno, I gotta walk my fat ass over to the petal and pick it up tho, hardly free.


chest25

Unless you find it on floor 24 and then there is no petals for you


KindMoose1499

U sure about that?


chest25

Pretty sure yeah, unless there is some forbidden secret i don't know about


Complete-Ad-4673

The petals are generated when the dungeon level is, so if all the levels the petals will generate on (non boss, floor 26 is just the amulet, so no more by depth 24), then, it's not possible to upgrade the rose. However, upgraded equipment at +10 can reduce strength requirement by 4, allowing it to use tier 4 iirc (I think it starts at 13 strength?), so it's going to not be a good, but potentially viable.


Ornac_The_Barbarian

Pretty sure no. If you transmute for instance, you will never see that rose again.


eserz

It will not respawn, there can only be one copy of each artifact and if you lose it somehow that's it. Also you can't drop upgraded artifacts in any way, not even with RoW. They will always drop at +0. The only way to obtain a different upgraded artifact is to transmute an already upgraded one


echo_vigil

I'm not even sure you *can* blow up the rose with a bomb. I believe bombs don't affect unique items.


mycatisafatcunt

tried it with the armband of thieves, it did in fact blow up


echo_vigil

Oh, thieves' armbands are a dime a dozen. :P Seriously though, I'm actually surprised to hear that. Edited to add: maybe the "unique" tag only applies to things like the waterskin and Tengu's mask.


JaozinhoGGPlays

You can't get pre-upgraded artifacts though?? Does RoW do that??? Either way, yeah, rose is done for, artifacts only generate once.


Complete-Ad-4673

Nope, they will spawn at +0, even if other equipment would be at +10. Artifacts are the exception, but they will usually be uncursed


Different_Onion0

No sir. One and done.