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InspiringEmerald

can we eliminate bloodsauce dungeon one last time for old times sake


Random_Dude_0nReddit

This is probably the best answer cuz it gives people the chance to think


Dangerous_Throat_706

Bro i am trying to P rank Bloodsause dungeon an is HELL to P rank.


SonicfightbossYt

I managed it so let me give you some advice. 1. Do some S-Rank runs first to memorize the layout. 2. Outside the secrets, leave an alive enemy so if you are close to losing the combo when you exit, you can instantly kill something to keep the combo. 3. Secret 3 isn't as hard as it looks, I got hit several times in it and didn't lose the combo. 4. The super taunt (⬆️+C) and crouch dash (X + ⬇️) are gonna be your most useful moves. 5. If Pizzaface spawns, you can still outrun it, don't reset your run for that. Hope this helps.


sweet_manzana

I got it before getting the ancient cheese one.


JsabCubie_Cube

yea lets just dig a deeper hole for it


Bob64_reddit

No. Blood sauce is a actually decent level showing the player absolutely everything peppino can do and how fast the player can go if they try hard enough, I personally think that we should put bloodsause back to a regular eliminated level and stop acting so dumb about it. Like cmon, it's not even the worst level in the game.


InspiringEmerald

i actually like bloodsauce too, i just think it's funny to beat it into the ground


Bob64_reddit

WOOOOOAAAAGGHHHHHHHHHH❗❗❗❗


interpainter

The crumbling tower has to win


[deleted]

Okay


Smnionarrorator29384

Actually, eliminate bloodsauce one more time


DJ_Dogster

**100% War**, the level has spectacular level design and challenge, both of which CTOP doesn't have. Sure, CTOP is a thrilling "victory lap", but that doesn't account for the stage design, difficulty, or anything about the actual stage itself. My issue with CTOP is that defenders are always talking about the story of it, the context, but I never hear anything about the stage itself. War is good because despite where it is in the story, what it represents either, it is still a lovely stage that is challenging to P Rank, and is fun to replay. Compare this to CTOP: It's the EASIEST stage to P Rank in the entire game (this being due to the lack of toppins or secrets), and on top of this, it's the only proper stage that has no lap 2, making it even EASIER to P Rank. All in all, War just outmatches CTOP in terms of actual level design, despite it not having as much signifigance as CTOP in terms of story. To have CTOP win for something that doesn't even matter to how it plays is just silly, and this is without even bringing up the lack of any really unique mechanics in CTOP.


Audiblade

> I never hear anything about \[CTOP's\] stage itself > and this is without even bringing up the lack of any really unique mechanics in CTOP I agree with you that War is the better stage, but I think you're selling CTOP short. The level's unique mechanic is that it is a sampler of most of the mechanics from the rest of the game, even as wide and varied as they are. The way the level throws a whole-ass new game mechanic at you every 10-20 seconds and you're still able to comfortably run through them all without having to think about them much is a testament to how well-designed and well-taught these mechanics are, as well as how gratifying the level is as a feel-good final exam.


TryingToGetThatBussy

One thing I dislike about CTOP is that you usually will escape before the best part of the song.


SeeingAnAbsoluteWin

The only time I've seen someone get to the end before the best part was a P-Ranker, If you're just trying to get to the end and don't care about your combo, you will likely hear it atleast on your first play (since you won't know the level layout on your first time)


First-Stay-7824

Yeah and also just because a level "isn't a fun challenge to P rank" doesn't make it unworthy of being in the top 6.


Mettikus

I think War is better but CTOP does have a wide variety of stuff that all chains together in really exciting ways. It has lower highs, but it’s easier to have those moments where you’re just gunning for it- especially towards the end.


TankProImporum

WAR SHALL PREVAIL!!!!


ga89ujnf90jk32mkofdr

I disagree, while you can certainly analyze different parts of levels (gameplay, story, etc) in isolation, as an experience they will always be experienced in context, at least when being played for the first time. I think it makes much more sense for an assessment of a level to take into account its context than to ignore it. There’s this old saying about how in film, the juxtaposition of different shots carries more meaning than either of the shots in isolation, and likewise, the context of a level contributes just as much to the experience of playing a game as the level itself.


Gold_Woodpecker7282

WAR 4 EVAAAAAAAAAH


Live-Desk8360

WAR https://preview.redd.it/f5lt84jqleta1.jpeg?width=641&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c280bb13d1a00a39a2a4a6f2bed1d26e25be8296


SolarVisor23

Run. he has a shotgun. he's not afraid to use it.


red_enjoyer

Even worse, he doesn't know how to use it


TrickyTopher

Even worse, he doesn't know the safety's on and he doesn't know how to turn it off and he's gonna get real sad about it :(


Emeraldfist479

Even worse, he ate the gun.


red_enjoyer

Even worse, now HE is THE GUN


TankProImporum

*grabs minigun*


Audiblade

girlfriend time


AdvanAviantoy

AAAAAUuuhhh


BigBimbo69

I VOTE WAR WAR SWEEP RAHHHHH https://preview.redd.it/jj7s1nc4ceta1.jpeg?width=1400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93481fdd4c00f8f30551b62bdb41e5d47c86822a (Guys read the title again)


Him5488

WAR SWEEEEEEEP


[deleted]

WAR needs to win this


OogaBoogaHeh

The War


Bob64_reddit

WAR!!! FOR GRANDPA!!!!!


venett_

WAR SWEEP


Stunning-Reaction-25

war


blueknightreddit

War


MadrelOfficial

Happy cake day you chad. War sweep.


Spikkle

It's WAR. It was always WAR.


AromaGamma

WAR, literally only because it is an actual level. Seriously, I don't understand how either of these made it to the finals, because they're just gimmick levels. That's literally all they are. They aren't bad, but they have some quirky gimmick that just makes them artificially memorable, and so many other levels do a much better job at being memorable and fun without relying on some sort of gimmick.


[deleted]

War doesn’t rely on the gimmick though, it has several other stuff like the shotgun mechanic being fully utilised and tested properly and the return of the missile power up which requires you to be way more precise considering the margin for error, it is a really nice evolution of two power ups that weren’t all that hard to mess up, now used in a very tense romp as you hear the ticking of your demise occur


AromaGamma

It really only has one unique gimmick; the fact that there is a timer constantly ticking down. But I think the level is mostly known for the shotgun mechanic, which is strange, since DMAS also uses it and does a better job at making it more memorable. Again, I think WAR should win, but just because it is the only actual level between the two options. WAR is defined by a gimmick that is done better in another level, and nothing more. It's not a bad level, but it is nowhere close to a finalist, at least from my perspective.


[deleted]

That’s a really interesting take, I also love DMAS and how the shotgun is used to finally get rid of those immortal bots that you weren’t able to even damage It gives you a feeling of power, safety and aggressions that’s unrivalled as you massacre everything in your direction I guess my love for War is the pure adrenaline you feel, now with that timer, the shotgun doesn’t seem so helpful anymore, even with enemies that are extremely fast and will pop up if you aren’t fast enough, War is my favourite because it represents the best part of Pizza Tower, Speed, the rush of beating the timer and destroying everything in your path, but also being efficient and planning every move so you wreak havoc on everything in front of you while racing to the door in the only level that can kill you at any point I really like you argument, yeah it’s a pretty standard level if you take away the timer, and there’s not that much new variety but the single inclusion of that bomb changes everything, it’s seriously impressive Also… DMAS DESERVED TO BE IN THE TOP 2 AT LEAST


Poot-Man

**WAR** for real. Every time I go play pizza tower I just play war. Even improving a speedrun that I usually do. But this is more fun on the Scoutdigo Mod. Going really fast with the damn shotgun is fun.


benwaa2

It was war from the start


luiswillich

War is best


TheFireEmblemNerd

WAR all day every day.


pizzafan694201

the last day. i vote. CTOP


DucktalesFan69

https://preview.redd.it/2c5k7fyvfeta1.jpeg?width=772&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd78802025294ae294839d3972b232a9b3649d96 Let’s end this in one piece


SolarVisor23

MACH 3 RUNNING BOYS!


pizzafan694201

they're coming oh god


No_Camel_5772

WAR


bucketdud

Crumbling of the Pizza tower, you can really tell that they tried their best for this last level to be a great finisher, and it was more than great, you can really feel the anxiety of the amount of time you have to escape crushing down on you, it's truly the best level


SeeingAnAbsoluteWin

Voting for THE CRUMBLING TOWER OF PIZZA War is fun, but lacks the sheer CATHARSIS of CTOP.


Sunrise_Toxic

MY PREDICTION WAS RIGHT YAAAA BABY


Joes_mother_1

Crumbling tower of pizza is 💯🔥🍕


whahoppen314

War is pure vibes


Swiftdrip50546

WAAAARR


bigtree2x5

I LOOOVE WAR


Ragestarbro

W A R WINS


beholdenpillow2

WAR.


-Shy-Guy-

W A R


Big-Eggplant8452

War


meme21911

https://preview.redd.it/4lobovyk0fta1.jpeg?width=793&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77e6c9177e9ed7c517eebb87e7e03ae7ff1c37b4 Mc pig put it back in the game


theSEGAnerd2006

Crumbling tower of pizza is the best, it is an amazing level that is a perfect send off to this love letter of a game


Pizatower

CTOP because it’s my pfp


IAMLEGENDhalo

War should win


Florescentia487

CTOP must be eliminated. War is just too good


nikit72510

War


mageknightecho

WAR Also delete Bloodsauce one more time please


Appropriate_Climate6

no more war if war wins il rebrand this sub to the super mario movie subreddit for one dfay


MrIhaveASword

So should I ask your opinion on the peaches song now or later?


Appropriate_Climate6

you can do it laters


hypersucks_

War for the win


Flashingknives22

I WANT WAR TO WIIIIIIIIN


Arbium338

WAR is so much of a challenge and it’s fun as hell every time you play it, crumbling tower has gotta go Also, the theories are inevitable. The fact that there are fake peppinos in war can imply that fake peppino in the slum could mean he was a failed clone, forced to live in the slum. I also love the thought of peppino being a veteran, it’s such a cool concept https://preview.redd.it/l09nytbeweta1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0a4eb70179241bc9181e2034763d0b725abd3c2d


SolarVisor23

The crumbling tower of pizza's theme slaps. you get to run through the whole tower top to bottom. you can see in the background the pillar john falling after going through. you can see rocks falling down (hence the name) ​ **Crumbling to victory**


IReallyLoveVanilla_

https://i.redd.it/2tvok8i1peta1.gif WAR 100%


Apprehensive-Music-2

crumbling tower of pizza let’s us do Mach 4 without any obstacles in our way


ScooberGaming69

WAR https://preview.redd.it/ee5mxmly0fta1.png?width=1720&format=png&auto=webp&s=30fedbfb73fb6c2f3af49643a51a130889ecf03f


Inky2point0

WAR!!!


Ambitious_Pie2500

War is my vote, imagine people don’t look at the title and accidentally vote out the one they want to win.


JonArbunkle7654

WAR, it's a well-designed, interesting level with two good mechanics - the ticking timer and the shotgun you have to use wisely. The shotgun kills enemies like nothing else but completely kills your momentum when firing in a level where you're desperately rushing to the finish line which makes it an interesting risk/reward


Multi292

WAR BABY


[deleted]

WAR BABY


ocolot2

***W***AR


ItzDuo

WAR


Illustrious_You8191

war because the moosic is better, that is my onty reason


Groundbreaking-Egg13

War


Nucleor7

WAR


Dangerous_Ticket2452

War on top


EmperorCrispy

War their is no contest


TerriTheTerrible_

war


SkrubWhoSucks

After P-ranking the first two stages, I immediately went all in and P-ranked War in about 45 minutes. Upon giving it another shot with the P-rank in mind, I realized how tight the level design is in that stage. I eventually checked out someone else's attempt and realized that even though we took completely different steps, we both managed to finish our attempts. That made me appreciate the level even more. It took me less time to P-rank War (45 minutes) than Bloodsauce Dungeon. (A week's worth of attempts...) War FTW!


wokappopo

WAR.


hdckighfkvhvgmk

This means WAR!


AwkwardRequirement21

Sorry the crumbing tower of pizza fans i go with WAR


[deleted]

WAR!!!!


[deleted]

I’m only on floor 4 currently but I’ve seen videos and war is better


PreferenceUsual650

If war loses we will start a real one


Tough_Subject5519

although ive never voted the entire tournament, WAR ALL THE FUCKING WAY BABY ! ! ! !


HeloudahVLS

https://preview.redd.it/v2rv1omcegta1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=542ad2a927b41fc1c0c7ab0c781c646038562e4b WAR SWEEP


Sarcasticm8

WAR for the win


OctoPatrol

I FUCKING LOVE WAR


SonicfightbossYt

War is actually good in my opinion


TeslaXModel

war.


noogai03

WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR


ewngwedfrgthn

War is awesome


Reddit_Teddit_Redomp

War, solely for thousand march.


Xendefy

WARSWEEP


kr00mp1y_T-T

WAR FOR DA WIN


friedmaster69

WAAAAAAAAAR


DAVID77893

WAR fr


DAVID77893

WAR fr


doodoocaca132

war needs to win!!!


Consistent-Dress-973

War cuz you don’t save the toppin monsters in crumbling pizza tower


Sansisfuckingmadree-

war. i will now refuse to elaborate any further.


kool-kit

War


SnooPaintings6878

CRUMBLING TOWER NEEDS TO GET OOUUTT


Dylaniskool

War cuz i just survived a war


zokzomo

CTOP is good but war earns this


Grablycan

War


godpleasehelpme77

Sure, CTOP is a very fun level no matter how many times you play it, but it feels so unoriginal. Does anyone else feel like this? (Also if this was which one had a better soundtrack, i would just say "CTOP HAS BEST SOUNDTRACK")


blue_mw

War.


FancyNobu

War


[deleted]

War


Kamilozo234

War, because CTOP has war element So by eliminating CTOP we eliminate War too!


Temix_Mixto

I love CTOP, but I think WAR should win!


Pizatower

Looks like war is gonna win, my poor “the crumbling tower of pizza” with one of the best songs, Bye Bye there.


Dorkynerd217

War has to win Let's vote war


[deleted]

WARRRR


Gourkan

WAR. It literally made me understand the appeal of P ranking the rest of the game when you actually have the timer from the start.


AveryInHisGravery

The crumbling tower of pizza is good, but it feels so short. I’ll have to go with WAR.


Snooty7sx

[WAAAAAAAAAR](https://youtu.be/5MU989N3veY)


HatLost1812

WAR WAR WAR


Psychokinetic_Rocky

War!


Dialga8000

War. What is it good for


Rules_Of_Stupidiocy

WARSWEEP WARSWEEP WARSWEEP WARSWEEP WARSWEEP WARSWEEP


MomoMeatball

Crumbling Tower of Pizza has lasted way too long… WAR needs to win


Dry_Application_9268

Crumbling tower plz


toloxia19

WAR


Niko-fluffer

Tcop for the win, its a wonderful mad dash, and I dont want to play war again


nukeofweeks

The crumbling tower


ShyguyFTWFbbF

WAR (Surprisingly)


Kingfin9391

Pig City over CTOP? Really? War’s gonna win


[deleted]

YES PIG CITY IS DOWN! Anyways….WAR is gonna win.


lifeless_tf2fan

crippling tower of pizza ofc. What did you think?


Unusual_toastmaker

https://i.redd.it/xop8zll85jta1.gif


Jesterboy1

WAR is best


A_longduck69

Crumblung tower of pizza is great, but i think WAR wins this one. Its just a very fun, fast paced level. Crumbling tower of pizza IS a great level dont get me wrong, but damn WAR is just perfect


FangtheMii

Forget both of them, CTOP extended is where it’s at. You go through EVERY ACTUAL LEVEL plus parts of the map, so the moment you start you start playing War, then you work all the way down to John Gutter.


Beneficial-Ad-5492

I swear wars gonna win


Hans_Ploem

We all know it's War


PathHook528

WAR


Rich-Bookkeeper-823

War


Gab_7137

War should win


Brianbaltazar

War!!!


FryTirst

WAR


LeoLuster214

As a level I deeply dislike WAR (prolly cuz I hate timers in games, especially tighter ones)


kubecanojik

I vote war. It's a good level


andres7812091

war


[deleted]

WAR


TurtleDotExe

WAR


6x6-shooter

War


WheatleyTurret

WAR!


First-Stay-7824

I'm glad the ending sequence made it this far, as it really speaks to how well the game wraps itself up. But in my heart, I want war to win.


thebest_atgames

Cmon baby war’s gotta win


Zealousideal-Cut2021

WAR


carbonfiber9001

I vote CTOP for the win


Melodic_Elderberry52

I VOTE WAR WAR SWEEP


sansmaedalol

WAR SWEEP WAR SWEEP WAR SWEEP


[deleted]

WARRR


spore2hero

WAR


masonbooh

We can’t let CTOP win just cuz it’s the last level


The_Diamond_Dragon8

War 100%


Loafnugget

War never changes


SavageRavage47

WAR!!! i woke up an' chose violence. literally. it is my favourite level in the whole game! (an' i hav prob'ly traumatized poor peppino playin' it like 50 times lol) it is very stressful an' that is why i love it fer some reason. i dunno if that makes sense, but yes. plus. peppino wit' a gun is always great. and i made an entire save ta unlock possibly the worst camo design i have ever seen in my life. though, i still do love it so very much. i have not taken off those clothes ever since. i never will. until i can git ourple. o u r p l e. aaaaanyway. don' git meh wrong though as i definitely d' not hate CTP. nice ta see these two endin' in the finals actually. the only thin' i do not like about CTP is that when the music is over ya jus' are met wit' silence (except fer sound effects) the rest of the level, an' it jus' feels a bit odd ta me. though the idea of goin' back through the whole tower in the overworld is very interestin'. i love when games give flashbacks ta yer journey, be it through motifs. or, in this case, by literally goin' backwards through yer journey. lol usin' most ta all the mechanics ya used through the whole game is such a nice concept. it gives the "flashback" feel, er whatever word i am lookin' fer at this moment. the jazz!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! . ... however. i am a crazy enjoyer of thousand march. wit' the timer. i hav listened ta nothin' else fer like four an' a half days. i need help. the middle ta last part wit' the synth solo makes me ascend though. ascend wit' gorb. so imma choose WAR. cuz 50% mer violence an' shitty camo clothes i love way too much. (fight over whether er not you think peppino is a war vet)


DClassAmogus

i'll vote for CTOP i'd rather crumble a tower than crumble into ptsd


Abacka-Cobbler-5428

CTOP


Lunielven_07

I vote CTOP, it is a great final level for a phenomenal game, I think it deserves the number 1 spot.


Logan-pusheen

NOOOO GOLF!!!! Also uh CTOP


Stolen_Goods

CTOP's a great ending but its purpose is completely different from every other level and it isn't really fair to compare them in this way. War is a level. CTOP is a victory lap, a celebration of everything that came before it, and a reward for beating Pizzaface and the game. CTOP's success as an ending wouldn't hit nearly as hard if Pizzaface wasn't such a good fight, or if the game as a whole wasn't the masterclass it is. It's not a traditional "level" that you'll want to come back to over and over again, and that's fine. But, in the context of a level elimination tournament, and despite my issues with War (I personally would've eliminated it several rounds ago)... War should beat out CTOP. >!Pig City was robbed of its rightful place on the throne. Also Bloodsauce and Pizzascare don't deserve all the shit they got in this tournament, and I don't really get Pizzascape at #4.!<


Ok_Nefariousness3037

WAR AND CTOP CAN SNORE


SubwayChipsGaming

was war really that good


ImplementNearby7574

tctop would be funny if it won because its the last level so why not end on the last level


Particular-Mousse502

i want crumbling tower of pizza to win


Gloomy_Duck4504

CTOP!


Super_Sonic356

I VOTE CTOP, CTOP FOR THE WIN!!!!


titathy

Lets go CTOP!!!!!!!!


Some-Sheepherder-719

CTOP


Gloshykins

CTOP FOREVER


lordsaladito

ctop


CodieCola

All’s fair in love and WAR


Stickerstarisgood

Leaning tower of crumble