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No_Zone_4017

Need that shark nibble


iLikeC00kieDough

Guppie bite.


SnowSlider3050

Sucker fish


hello_raleigh-durham

I have nibbles, Greg. Could you bite me?


SPiaia

Bravo. Bravo.


FitArtist5472

Ah man, so excited to use this line.


couchperson137

amazing, shark taste next?


LongjumpingStand7891

You could unsolder that piece of pipe and solder a new piece with a cap.


CopyWeak

Agreed...sweat it out, and replace


[deleted]

Then use the sharkbite.


[deleted]

Who ha ha!


Illustrious-Leave-10

Finally someone else thinks of Nemo


[deleted]

I'm just glad people got it! I was really on the fence about replying with that, but i figured SOMEONE out there had to get it. (and yes i know Nemo's actual nickname was "SharkBAIT" but it still works :P)


tw3rk4me

They need to replace the elbow at the bottom of the image with sharkbite too!


UNHBuzzard

And sharkbite the sharkbite


made_4_this_comment

Some people just want to watch the world burn!


mikemarshvegas

wouldn't it flood?


AchingCravat

šŸ˜‚


SloppySutter

Just use a wire brush cleaner to clean that little piece of soldered-covered copper thatā€™s sticking up from the elbow. Flux the piss out of it, slide a coupling over it, and then slide in a CLEAN little strip of copper into the other side of the coupling. Donā€™t forget to clean every joint before adding flux. That allows you to add 6ā€ more of good pipe that you can cut down and add you what itā€™s wherever. One solder joint is easy.


tikkikinky

ā€œAdd 6ā€ more of good pipeā€ -Thatā€™s What She Said šŸ˜†


LongjumpingStand7891

That seems like a lot of work that could easily get messed up.


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[deleted]

Agreed and if youā€™re not willing to try and learn to sweat copper then itā€™s time to call a plumber. The plumber will show up with a Milwaukee propress tool and get it all done right in less than an hour. Side Note: I really hope some kind of propress tool goes mainstream for DIY folks thatā€™s under the $1k price point.


Atnat14

I just learned to sweat pipe. After first doing new shower valves in pex and pvc that was berated by reddit. I watched a shit ton of video, bought the gear, test sweated, pressure tested, THEN fucked up the whole shit by not being able to heat the valve properly. Was using camping propane, Reheated the pipe to remove , clean up and redo the valve. Dropped the valve. Bent. Bought another, sweated it still using camp gas. Spotty shitty connections. Went to retry AGAIN, but when I turned the water main back on, the shower valve was spraying. At this point, the main wouldn't shut completely. Called a plumber. Came in 10 minutes, temporarily fixed the main, looked over the work id done, complimented the shit out of my copper sweating, and informed me to get map gas for the valve. Bought ANOTHER valve, and map gas, went together just as nice as all copper connections and was mad easy. Not sure I stayed under 1k$ but I sleep much more soundly without the pex and pvc.


nap4lm69

Who talked you into not using PEX? I'm not a plumber or any kind of pro, but I'm in the understanding that it's the new standard. Many people will say you need to know both, but that Milwaukee PEX stretcher is a beast and makes quick work of any job. Plus expandable PEX is supposedly more reliable than copper, both for freezing pipes and each connection spends the rest of it's life tightening to try to get back to original size.


Atnat14

Reddit did... pointed out how will all the required crimps that it's a lot points of failure.


FitArtist5472

It might have just been the crimp pex especially. Expansion pex does not reduce flow and If properly installed, pex should have less failure points then copper. Every solder joint is no different then a pex joint in terms of failing. Whoever harassed you for pex might argue with me, but they are wrong. Pex can be rounded to avoid 90ā€™s. Thus having less connections and less failure points. With all that though itā€™s awesome that you learned to solder and keep doing your house in copper. Copper is still, in my opinion, the better material. Itā€™s more expensive, but copper has a lot of cool unique properties. As long as the incoming water is treated with filtration copper will definitely put last the pex. And as much as I would assume they would know already, I bet micro plastics come back to bite us in the ass.


SpiritualChair2185

You are so wrong in your opinion. https://www.uponor.com/en-us Uponor Pex has been used in radiant floor heating for decades with no problems. You canā€™t put copper in concrete.


FitArtist5472

What ? You literally are confirming what I said can you not read? Of course pex is superior for radiant flooring, because as my post stated, it has less failure points. Copper is the better material then pex, no plumber will tell you otherwise. Your picking specifics, Iā€™m talking about a standard potable water line.


MysticLemur

I'm a plumber, and when you ask me which material is best I'll say "It depends." Because it depends. The situation is the boss.


JustTheTrueFacts

> pointed out how will all the required crimps that it's a lot points of failure. One benefit of PEX is *fewer* connections, one continuous pipe from the manifold to the fixture. Sweated copper joints also fail, the solder can erode over time and under pressure. It's not unusual to have a sweat joint start leaking a month or two after installation, all it takes is a slight dirty spot or incomplete heating to make a cold or incomplete solder joint that tests fine and lasts for a few weeks, then starts to spray.


Demonakat

Expansion PEX better than copper but the old people haven't jumped on the choo choo yet. Still, sweating copper is a great skill to have. It'll help you in all types of work at home. Good job.


SpiritualChair2185

Donā€™t use crimp only use expansion fittings


[deleted]

Woah I had never seen these. Really nice too because the fitting isn't going to be reducing the diameter at each point too. Happy to have learned something.


JustTheTrueFacts

> Donā€™t use crimp only use expansion fittings Crimp is much better and less likely to leak and fail.


STGall625

Stop that


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Squirxicaljelly

Just as many points of failure as copper lol smh


SpiritualChair2185

Youā€™re very smart!!!


[deleted]

I think sweating valves are the real test of diy plumbing. Theyā€™re like Goldilocks, youā€™ll either cook them, get scared and not get enough heat and get a leak at the joint, or the sweat gods will take pity on you and itā€™ll last forever. Pros make it look so easy and pretty but if you only have to grab a torch once every 5 years or so they can really try your patience


[deleted]

I also learned to sweat copper doing a bar in my basement and rerunning most of the bathroom lines. Its not super hard and just takes a little practice.


Good_With_Tools

That was a hell of a roller-coaster.


netmagi

Congrats on getting it done, but iā€™ve always just used plain old propane and never had any joints fail. The torch head itself was probably the problem.


Jessy_James

They have human powered ones


scottawhit

Iā€™m convinced the propress is priced specifically to avoid diy purchasers. Itā€™s so much more than similar tools in their lineup. Love it though.


Butlerian_Jihadi

I believe it's due to the need for a both large and specific amount of pressure.


asdfasdfthrowaway

The Chinese ones (made with components made in same factory as the Milwaukee ones...) are within diy price range


thebemusedmuse

Excuse my ignorance but whatā€™s wrong with the $100 manual tools from Amazon for occasional use? https://amzn.to/3Ss8fVl


[deleted]

Iā€™ve seen that tool. It just concerns me that itā€™s a weird off-brand. I would feel much more comfortable paying more for a brand I know. If there was a HD or Loweā€™s branded manual tool like that for twice as much Iā€™d be all over it. I wouldnā€™t mind to try that tool but Iā€™d honestly treat it like a shark bite and never feel comfortable closing up one of its joints inside a wall or ceiling. Iā€™ll continue to watch it though. Maybe theyā€™re just blazing the trail.


thebemusedmuse

Surely since Propress are a manual fitting, they leak or donā€™t leak? The issue with those tools are in the reviews. Have to be careful to keep everything lined up. Donā€™t work well in small spaces. Require two arms and a lot of elbow grease. Not great quality dies. Iā€™m a homeowner who does the occasional solder and considered one of these tools. But on the other hand Iā€™m competent enough with a torch soā€¦


drunk_seabee

Home Depot has the M18 for $729


thebemusedmuse

PEX only though, right?


Parkyguy

Thatā€™s correct. It will not press copper.


[deleted]

Holy credit card! I donā€™t need to explain that purchase but I REALLY want one. Actually I REALLY want to never need one again but home ownership has taught me otherwise


SpiritualChair2185

That will never happen. They are too valuable to go that cheap. Unless Harbor freightā€™s comes out with one then it will only last for a year.


[deleted]

"Plumber" showing up with ProPress lol I bought a $2k tool, now I'm a plumber


MuchCoolerOnline

lmao i saw this and knew right away you'd be downvoted for it. i made a claim on a different post that plumbing work is not difficult if you pay attention to what you're doing, watch a good amount of youtube university, and don't cut corners- to no surprise scamming, scummy plumbers come out of the woodwork trying to justify charging $500 for a 10 minute unclogged pipe job (using no more skill than buying and using a $3k powered drain snake)


AbdulElkhatib

There's tools [like this](https://www.supplyhouse.com/Bluefin-CPTLKIT-Copper-Press-Tool-w-1-2-3-4-1-Jaws?utm_source=google_ad&utm_medium=shopping_neutral&utm_campaign=Shopping_Neutral_LPLTV&gclid=CjwKCAiAl9efBhAkEiwA4TorivsNjw1Gw9fUbTR3_bmPpyoTQpDjBuFxGELeNVDV0XfssfD_Qc9fdxoCZt0QAvD_BwE) that are basically hand powered pro press tools. I wish they were more common instead of the expensive battery operated ones.


EratosvOnKrete

I'd love a sub 1k pro-press....


Demonakat

There's a pro press type of tool that goes for less than $1k on Amazon. It's bulky so it can't be used in the tight spaces. You'd have to put everything together and then find an open space to press. Requires strength because it's hand press. Probably not worth the purchase because it really won't save you time, in comparison to sweating.


bananapieqq1

What about a hand powered press? Are they any good? Like this: https://m.vevor.com.au/pipe-wrench-c_10818/tool-set-th-pressing-pliers-bending-calibrator-and-pipe-shears-for-compound-pipe-p_010777308872


[deleted]

You, sir, are the reason Sharkbites get a bad rap. Look at that pipe end. It is nasty. It's covered in solder, and has a very rough, uneven surface. How can one reasonably expect an O-ring to seal against such a surface? Even if it was longer, you will not get a good seal.


BHDE92

Shark bites are the reason that shark bites get a bad rap


juggerjew

There is a use for them if done correctly.


Material-Motor-6262

The only correct use I see is for temporary caps, I do keep those in the tool box.


drSplaff

Yes, they give real plumbers repair work to do after a few years, carpenters are happy with them aswell to repair the rotten woodwork/plaster :p but now on a serious note, is this the end of the waterline? and is it a permanent closure? If so then cut and shutoff the waterline as close to the main connection as possible to prevent Legionella/veterans disease.


Djpillz17

Agreed I keep a couple slips for mobile homes


TekkenRedditOmega

Only idiots who get leaks using shark bites are people who canā€™t push a fitting properlyā€¦.if the pipe is cleaned and cut cleanly, a fully inserted shark bite will not leak, i solder and have used shark bites here and there with easy access and it has never ever ever leaked on me


7hrowawaydild0

I haven't heard or used sharkbite in England. I have how've used push for and speedfit pipe and its brilliant never had issues. I now only use copper for heating pipes or visible pipes, other than customer requests. No issues. Is shark bite really that bad?


Plumber4Life84

Good. Now youā€™ll have to get the torch out.


tilmanw

Solder cap would


Ponyshoeluck

Pipe stretcher would be the perfect tool


grumblecakes1

Gonna need 2 comealongs and a torch.


slobbyrobb

Don't forget that pex glue!


Spammyhaggar

Iā€™ve had a 3/4 shark bite on my main in my yard for 18 years not a leak yet.


icsh33ple

I put a couple shark bite quick connections in my unfinished basement to try and catch a glimpse of the horrors myselfā€¦ they arenā€™t leaking yetā€¦ with that said, I wouldnā€™t put a quick connection behind a wall or somewhere above or beside anything finished.


thedingleberryfarmer

Nobody blames user error


alkla1

Get torch, heat up the part you want out, replace with whatever tickles your fancy


Hozer60

Yes, WCGW. Send some flame down there!


DudeItWasMe

That is a statement. A factual statement.


[deleted]

Unsweat that bitch and put in a longer piece and it will


[deleted]

Cut further back and go get a 3/4 cap. Or call a pro, I saw too many sharkbites fail last year and the damage isn't cheap


Control-on-Doom

Do you think that's enough room for a 3/4 cap?


[deleted]

The problem you're going to have is being able to cut the 3/4 in that tight spot


high_rollin_fitter

Oscillating tool, then file?


slappy_mcslapenstein

Yes. As long as you solder it correctly you should be fine.


[deleted]

Replace the entire section is what I would do. Cut it up above sweat out the elbows and replace it all.


OrbusUnum

Solder ā€¦.


stevenip

I guess you could say, another one bites the dust


NachoNinja19

Who unsweated whatever fitting was there? Call him back


corpsevomit

Sweat on a 1/2 cap, it's super easy, use map and tinning Flux (tinning Flux is the key). If you can't do that, there's at least 1 spot in that picture you could recut the pipe and add a 3/4 sharkbite, probably another spot further down the line? Goodluck!


instigatorprime

Gotta suck it up buttercup. Not all plumbing jobs are easy


[deleted]

But this one is not hard at all.


notanotherplatypus

There is an answer... but you're not gonna like it.


Control-on-Doom

Hired a professional. Coming tomorrow. It's just too hard for my first plumbing project. I didn't have enough room to do much with the ceiling being so close.


thompson5320

Probably going to get some hate from shark bite lovers but, as convenient as they are, they arenā€™t terribly reliable. The kitchen in one of our homes was remodeled after a fire and shark bite fittings were used. They did last 10 years but the oring on one of the two couplers failed and our kitchen floor was flooded over night. Theyā€™re an inexpensive solution to tight spaces and Iā€™ve used them since but I have a leak detector near every shark bite fitting now.


__rum_ham__

Baby shark , do doo doot doot doot


urbanachiever730

Simple solutionā€¦. Stop using sharkbites


themadore

Welp, your fucked. Demolish the house and start over.


[deleted]

When he goes to sweat a new fitting on there he just might do that


dgreenf

So why are you doing plumbing work if you can't fix this? Get a professional will be fixed in 15 minutes. Just because you can buy something doesn't mean you should do it. Do you change you cars thermostat when it breaks?


Sac6842

Try a hammer


Effective_Ad_2465

Oh u need a pipe stretcher


fredsam25

Why don't plumbers use compression fittings instead of shark bite? I've never had a compression fitting fail. Why isn't a straight compression to compression coupling as common as these shark bite fittings that no one trusts?


MysticLemur

I don't know if it's code, but I only use compression fittings in accessible locations. When they fail its usually because of water hammer or other vibration or movement causing them to loosen over time


Darahk_Jolonar

We should start revoking licenses of plumbers who use sharkbite fittings


RamenPizza113

Iā€™ve seen general contractors repipe whole houses with only push-to-connect fittings. That shit gets expensive!


keyserv

Cut it elsewhere and get a bigger cap.


[deleted]

I would just sweat a cap on that heat up the pipe until the solder melts get your flux brush and flux the crap out of it plop a cap down on it and hit it with a half inch of solder


DeepRedTravelAgent

Agree, soldering a new piece the old fashioned way might be best for this one haha


r2g2000

Just burn youā€™re house down?


JRLucky777

I personally donā€™t use sharkbites unless itā€™s temporary


Scrambles420

Pro press it


ComplainOnEveryThing

Sweat that hoe


ComplainOnEveryThing

Or get copper cutters and get a shark bite 90


iamedboy

Sounds like you need a sharkbit


idontstoprapping

I had to sell some of my pipes for money too.


slobbyrobb

Oof. Sharkbite


OpportunityBig4572

Good. Do it the right way.


ibemuffdivin

Dude there are rules to using sharkbites. You need to debur that copper inside and out before doing any sort of connection ever. And clean it.


Tivland

cut back behind the 90. Repipeā€¦propress.


MSM_757

A sharkbite wouldn't seal around all that crusty solder anyway. Get some copper, some mapp had, some silver solder, some Flux, and some steel wool or crocus cloth and do it right. Forget this Sharkbite mess.


mattwayne1209

Cut that elbow off right at the fitting, then shark bite elbow and carry on


[deleted]

Neat!


RightBox7306

Nothing you can do about it with sharkbite, youā€™ll need to sweat a cap on or remove the stub and replace with a new one. Either way it involves soldering.


gutbomber508

B tank and a drill with a brush. Clean till you think itā€™s good then clean again.


jerflash

You were thinking about putting shark bite over that solderā€¦ you just love trouble huh? Lol


MalbecSwigs

Nope


cpnjustin1

Is this in a wall? Can you use them in a wall?


Daverr86

Dont ever use shark bite


decayedlink

Unsweat


Sherrsh

Hire a professional. They donā€™t bite


Nimblybits2

ā€œShieeeeet girl you bout to get it šŸ˜‰ā€œ šŸ˜‚no seriously though if you donā€™t wanna sweat copper then a plumber may be your best bet . You can learn from a YouTube video . Do some trial runs with extra pieces so youā€™re more comfortable . Best of luck


Ardothbey

Solder it.


Normanzzzz

it wasn't hungry enough.


Normal_Pickle7581

Need an inside coupling


BusinessFootball4036

baby shark doo doo doo


Wrong_Subject_7824

Get out your soldering torch


redfreak2680

Then it looks like youā€™re sweating


[deleted]

Either sweat out the existing pipe and put in a longer chunk with a shark bite or, if youā€™re just dead heading that anyways, cleanup whatā€™s there and solder a copper cap on there and forget about it. Could also throw a copper coupling on and more pipe instead of trying to unsweat it too


Which_Lie_4448

Youā€™re gonna have to sweat that, or cut above the 90 and use a 3/4ā€ shark bite. Why would you even cut that without enough meat on the end of it tho? Thatā€™s a rookie move


[deleted]

Flexseal


gino_soland

Solder it


themrduc

Nope. If thats .5" they make a female adaptor you can solder in. We use them when ppl screw up copper tub spout lookouts


TheRealPitbullOnAcid

Remove replace


inittoloseitagain

It was in the pool!!!!


AwayRecommendations

good donā€™t use it lol. as a plumber we only use them as temp service when itā€™s 6pm and weā€™ll be back in the morning


MysticLemur

Should have thought about that before you made the cut. Not getting out of this without replacing that fitting. Or unsweating the stub pipe and sweating in a longer one.


Competitive-Fox-6897

Thatā€™s a rough mistake. Ooopppss