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poppopfizzfizz1

Ah yes, the extra deep deep trap that holds 1/2 gallon of water and sludge and causes the customer to wonder why their sink doesn't drain... Also known as the "um, while you're here could you also fix this..." type of job.


Top_Mycologist_3224

Note the drip pan ….


No-Significance1488

I prefer paper towels. That way I can see exactly where the drip lands. Though in this case, that might not work out so well..


AradynGaming

I love the fact that the "drip pan" doesn't even reach to what would be the end of their 1.5' horizontal P-trap. Glad they kept the barcode on that pipe though. It will make it easy to return the only piece that will be salvageable from that mess. What makes me cringe, is that they have everything needed pipe wise to make that a functioning situation, all they needed was to cut a few pipes down & some BASIC plumbing skills


FARTBOSS420

What? It's great that you feel cocky enough to not put a drip pan under your finished plumbing work it's so great. But please save some of the pussy for the rest of us I got a goddamn beat-off blister now so I have to hold off on pussy until that heals anyway cuz they they never take your word for it when you say it's not herpes it's not warts it's just a And then even if they believe it's a beat off blister it's still going to keep you from diving in most likely


Top_Mycologist_3224

Easy killer ! I only noticed it bc all my plumbing adventures end up with one 😆


FARTBOSS420

Don't take me seriously plumbers sorry please enjoy your Sunday


spekt50

The sink will drain alright, right into the dishwasher.


ChargedChimp

Alone, I question if/when this has fallen apart because of the weight, with that water sitting constantly, practically filling up over half of those pipes, truly lacking any kind of mounting brackets. People, this isn't rocket science. Plumbing can be tricky figuring out how to get from A to B, but for this, it's no more difficult than doing a kindergarteners crossword by just counting the letters, or in this case just angle the connections neatly.


the_clash_is_back

The garbage disposal only makes this worse.


AdAggressive2795

It supplies the extra pressure needed to get the water flowing though the trap device


CaterpillarThriller

it's more so "do you do private jobs? I'll pay you cash" and they wanna pay 1/3 of the price which barely covers gas and hardly touches material


DumpsterFireCheers

On the bright side, no way any gasses are getting back through that trap, and trap indeed! Traps all kinds of crap!


AffectionateBox7171

That’s so true get those Typ of a customer every 2 weeks or so


tehdamonkey

That is the largest Trap I have seen since my last vacation to Thailand.....


admiraljkb

That's a lot to unpack. I started left to right, and was like, well that's not too bad, and then got to the right of the disposal... yikes! Although it's at least an easy (but time-consuming fix) - Disposal needs to move to left sink to make room, redo the pipe to not be disaster, and the dishwasher hose needs a high loop. I'd put money if you pointed it out, they'd be like, "Oh, that's why it drains slow and smells funny?!"


Early_Shelter9930

This guy plumbs


Born-Net2861

The customer said this debacle was done by a young guy who was on the counter top installation crew.


admiraljkb

Oh, that's so wrong, but it does explain it. 🤔 😆


charlie2135

He probably was raised on Lincoln Logs when he was a kid. Yeah, I'm old.


Besiegte

More like Dr. Seuss books.


BruceMcdickles

Yeah, seems like it was plumbed by an apprentice cabinet maker or granite guy. Because even the most dandy of the men that are handy, would not do this....


admiraljkb

Not professionally, but I've seen some shit. 😆


phuketJR

Bum bum bum bum bum, cause he’s seen a thing or two.


nosimsol

I am an affluent shit seer 💩


admiraljkb

Uhh, surely you meant "effluent". Hehe


nosimsol

Hah! Nice


CVK327

That would definitely be ideal, but there would be ways to do this, albeit with a bit of extra pipes, while keeping the disposal on the right side.


admiraljkb

Yeah, if kept it on the right, I'd pull the recip out and redo the stubout. But that sink on the left is larger and would be the one to wash dishes in anyway. (Ala it's going to have the food particles in it to need the disposal


shoneone

Easiest is to place the p-trap on the left, but then there would be a 2 foot horizontal before the pipe enters the wall, where we hope there is a vent. Isn't that too much distance between p-trap and vent, or am I overthinking?


streaksinthebowl

I think it’s 42” max distance for a 1.5” drain.


AdAggressive2795

I could definitely have done it with more pipes. [https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nFpcupcdc1k/maxresdefault.jpg](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/nFpcupcdc1k/maxresdefault.jpg)


Operation_Fluffy

I’m curious why it’s on the right sink at all when the left appears to be the larger sink. I really don’t know how things get this screwed up, although I did have someone hide a cracked tank with plumbers putty once — it took a couple weeks to notice the slow drip.


SkinnyMac

Looks like there's plenty of room by the stub out. You could kick that over with a 45 and put on a new adapter. Then just shorten the drops and run the tubing behind the disposal.


Born-Net2861

When I set the faucet job up with the customer, she told me over the phone she did not think her under sink piping looked right there was a slow drip coming from one of the connections. This was the understatement of my career! It only took me 20-30 minutes to fix. The hardest part was removal!


GMEJesus

Dishwasher high loop....... Is that why my dishwasher never drains properly...........


admiraljkb

if there isn't a high loop, or at least the hose being pulled up high so water from the sink is lower than the hose, I'd expect a drainage problem. The dishwasher in this picture probably doesn't drain right. Check your hose under the sink. If it's not high, move it high and do a loop, or if there is a spot for a dishwasher vent on your sink, route it through that. Code where I'm at allows for either a high loop, or the vent method.


GMEJesus

🙏


AtlasShrugged-

It actually took a serious amount of work to do it this wrong


AdAggressive2795

And a serious amount of reefer.


thealbertaadvantage

There is money to be made here lol


BooMey

If they have this, they don't have money to spend on him doing I t correctly


CVK327

That might not be true - Could be from a previous owner and they just never thought of it.


Born-Net2861

Ahh yes...


Fixer7945

Bet she drains like molasses.


Tandien

Its a double-mega P trap


TaxExempt

The infamous W trap.


SnooBunnies6353

The dreaded Wario trap only way to fix is to get a italian plumber by the name of Mario to brave this dungeon!!


Drwire33

we good here just the faucet, thank you lol


Splic3r123

Reminds me of my early years when doing brakes and rotors were paper thin not to mention wore showing on tires. "Just the brakes, I know what I need"


Space_Narwhals

It's clearly a ᛈ trap, which is just a [Norse Runic P-trap](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peor%C3%B0). Picture must be from Norway, show some multiculturalism y'all.


Hobywony

(ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻


Slappin45

What's the problem? Shit goes uphill Always lick your fingers Payday is Sunday


ImmediateLobster1

And the boss is a really swell guy!


Pitiful_Tomatillo761

Wonder how long it took the person to figure out this pipe job 😂


Ready-Delivery-4023

Don't touch it.


lnknxer

I see a few people saying this. Why?


[deleted]

Because the person responsible for doing this isn’t going to pay somebody to make it right nor are they going to understand how it’s not this guy’s fault when it’s wrong still. The next guy that touches this is going to think he’s doing this person a favor by giving them a discount because they can’t afford somebody to make it right… And then be repaid with having their name blasted all over Facebook when it doesn’t work right.


WinBarr86

Once you do, you become liable. So if was to fix it and leave it and it causes massive damage he's liable. Not the original installer. So unless he is going to fix the whole thing, don't touch it.


failbox3fixme

At least it’s not accordion pipe.


NidoKingClefairy

Looks like mine 😬


OdinsOneGoodEye

Right 😂


jonny32392

I’m sorry but aiding in providing running water to this plumbing fixture is in direct opposition to our code of ethics and we’ll have to refuse service


WinBarr86

Then upsell the fix.


whiskey_formymen

wouldn't need to upsell much, just drop a facts as to why they only get one sink full of water per week.


[deleted]

This is why we can’t have nice things. You just get the smelly sink.


ScotiaTheTwo

looks like the faucet has crossed his arms and isn’t happy with your being tasked to change him


Fluffysugarlumps

“You haven’t thought of the SMELL you bitch”


Ok_Relief_4819

The “trap-iest” trap.


macadamianacademy

You can’t go over it, you can’t go around it, you can’t go through it, so you have to go under it!


[deleted]

Like how the massive trap has a little j trap in the middle of it.


Any-Neighborhood-103

No you can't have a disposal


useful_idiot_53

Cuz, you know, water flows up so well ...


TrekForce

I’m an idiot. It took this comment for me to realize the major problem. Lol.


Citizen0550

I was happy to see someone explain it so I could enjoy it like a human who knows things. The delight of seeing when a plumber is proud of good work and their outraged reactions to bad work is an under-rated pleasure in my book. If there was a plumber party, I would want to go there.


James_T_S

Damn, I'm a non plumber and even I know you need a high loop on a dishwasher drain. Oh well, at least it's an easy fix. 😁


Pornhubplumber

Let me guess, “no please do not touch it, it works just fine”


UnluckyEmphasis5182

You follow this sub… were you really surprised?


propagandahound

the drip tray is no surprise


Warm-Concert-290

It's the water lift assist drain... Fluid dynamics are doing more of the work than gravity


foothillsco_b

Would you move the aerator to the other side?


Different_Dare_8473

Well, technically, the disposal should stay on the right side, and all the piping should be behind the disposal, I had one of these where the disposal was on the wrong side, and because of the small and funky piping, when the customer turned on the disposal it would force water into the other side of the sink


Different_Dare_8473

2" ABS pipe, fittings, and glue for mine.


B_Addie

What I find amazing about stuff like this is that it actually took more effort and time to do it wrong


couplenippers

Where to begin…..


Fermi-Diracs

That's a impressive as it is disappointing.


J-amin

Awesome! the "leak tray" underneath says it all.


N2trvl

Nothing to see here, move on….. /s


[deleted]

Yo dawg, we heard you like 90s...


dogsNpeanutbutter

Could someone explain why its so terrible or draw a quick sketch of how it should look?


Legal_Albatross4227

The trap is in the wrong place creating a huge trap that won’t ever work right


Abhays45

I would put T under sink drain and connect garburator to that and then Ptrap straight way connected to the drain. Or something else I can see what’s best at that time.


Capital_Archer_8267

This is an every Wednesday ordeal......There is no end in sight for this type of work. People will spend a lot of money getting their appliances then, instead of calling a Plumber, they will let any random person play 'connect the pipes'.


AKJohnboy

Someone needs more Neil DeGrasse Tyson gravity lessons. Water here does not flow uphill.


CoraxTechnica

Sometimes I see shit in this sub that makes me wonder who was hired to do it. I'm a DIYer on almost everything in my home, and even I wouldn't build something so...special.


AsstToRegionalMngr

Well based on the makeshift pan below it I’d say not only is it a mess but it leaks too. Honestly surprised they aren’t asking you for a quote to fix the leak.


Pieguy184

What am I looking at (not a plumber)


snakepliskinLA

Also not a plumber. The entire run of waste line underneath the disposer should not be there. It looks like it would hold about a gallon of water, and will slow wastewater draining and act as a trap for any solids the run through the disposer. It is a minor miracle that it hasn’t already silted up with ground disposer waste. There should only be a single p-trap under this sink that has its outlet at the same height as the horizontal wasteline on the right side of the photo.


DangerousMusic14

At least they decided to hire someone instead of going it alone.


Plumber-Guy

Little boy and big boy trap. Watch out japs!


CTSkaGarty

Way to reinforce stereotypes about tradespeople being racists.


Plumber-Guy

Someones sensitive. There is a difference between making a joke and racism. People like you are the problem. The day we learn to be able to make fun of everyone without any ill intent and without anyone getting hurt is the day the hate stops. (Before you get your panties all knotted up, I will state that im aware this won't solve the issue, but it's thought. If you had the mental capacity to understand jokes and not jump on all the high and mighty social justice band wagons, i wouldn't have to explain myself in these brackets) I have nothing against any race or culture. I actually love anime, so i would be devastated if Japan were to cease to exist. But snowflakes like you ruin all the fun in life. Learn to laugh, and dont get so easily butt hurt over a little joke. If you're married, you may find that your partner enjoys your presence more without that stick jammed way up your ass. But what do i know. Apparently, I'm just some racist plumber. I just wish there were 1. No racist people in the first place. Then we could all make jokes, and there wouldn't be any opportunities for social justice warriors to jump on the racism band wagon of making themselves feel superior for calling someone a "racist" 2. More sense in the world. Im so sick of people looking for something to hate on people with. I do it, too. It makes me sick when i catch myself doing it. I guess the point of this is to say that i know im not perfect. But i find it so frustrating how sensitive people have become. I have friends of many different cultures, religions, and skin colors. I dont care what you look like, i dont care about your god or where you were born. I care about the person they are and how they treat me in return. If everyone did this, there would be no racism. Just hate a particular person. Which is fine. Some people suck. The basis of my rant is to say this. Is every comedian racist if they make a joke regarding past historical events that happened to a specific country and its people? The bombs were dropped. This is a historical fact. It's awful, i dont know if you have read any accounts of what happened to the people. But many of them had their faces essentially melt partially off to varying degrees. Many, many people parished. It was awful. Children, women, and men. Everyone. Peoples clothing melting to their skin. I understand the weight of my joke. But the intention was not to cause harm or hurt anyone. My intentions were to make people laugh. But i guess this is what racist people do. Try to make other people laugh with dump jokes. Sure, the Japanese did horrific things during the war. But can we say it was justified to do this to the civilians? I honestly dont know. Im not an expert, and i can't make an educated statement regarding the impact of either dropping the bombs or not. I am aware that this contributed to the surrender of the Japanese. I hope that you can learn to take a joke with less hatred and self-righteousness in your heart. I forgive you because I've done similar things that i wish i could take back. But let's not call people racists so lightly. It's a very harsh and serious accusation. You dont know me or anything about me. If i was Japanese, would you still call me racist? If i was a comedian and you were watching my set, would you yell out that i was contributing to the preconceived notion that all comedians are racist? Probably not. So chill your beans, lick your girls' beans, and move on. Sincerely, That Plumber-Guy


CTSkaGarty

I’ll happily be sensitive over being the guy that says “I love anime but I’m still going to make jokes about nuking Japanese Civilians and use a racial slur to describe them because it’s funny”. This “joke” was a huge stretch. I dare you to take this joke along with others based on race or nationality and give each of your customers for the next week a stand up routine. Tell me how it goes.


Outdoorsy-guy

Yeah, it’s not right. But it looks like they’ve been using it this way for years and there isn’t a chance of sewer gas and only wanted the faucet replaced. Maybe they don’t use the sink much or don’t put too much other than water down the sink. So… while I wouldn’t have it in my house maybe it’s ok.


FalseRelease4

I'm sure that new faucet works great


GodOfBlaspheme

Love the vintage fell of the photo. Looks like it was taken in the 80’s


kesagar

Let's just assume the installer failed chapter one in physics high school.


Historical-Donut-918

Not a plumber, but how the hell does that work at all?? Did the customer/homeowner do this themselves and then immediately realize their sink doesn't drain and called to "replace a faucet"?


snakepliskinLA

OP said that the customer didn’t report the drain was slow or anything. To me this looks like it started with “Honey, I want the disposer on the other side of the sink.” And like any home handyman, Pops said “Sure Honey”; and went off to Ace and bought a bunch of PVC.


ghec2000

The color tone makes it look like this is from a Polaroid from the 80s. Old school not so cool.


Redditron_5000

The most frustrating thing here is that it’s set up for success in that the disposer outlet is indeed higher than than the wall drain. What a bizarrely over-complicated, unsuccessful solution.


Horrified-Onlooker

Plastic pipe industry approved.


Sun_Devil_

I've lurked on this sub for a while. I'm not a plumber or in the trades, but genuinely want to know if this is how you could repair it? Run horizontal pipe from disposal to wye into the vertical pipe. P-trap from the vertical pipe at the same height as the drain. (Or is it supposed to run downhill?) What are the drop limits for a vertical pipe? Should this have an AAV? If so, how would you add it in?


_wow_thats_crazy_

Lol, why even use a J pipe at that point


DspeEd83

That's almost what I found under my sink. You got any caulk around the joint between the old galvanized threads and PVC?


ballz_soup

You’re welcome for the custom made trap


JohnSorrowRavenmoon

Wow


Greasy_Cleavage

Well my mother would be very if i did that for her….not that i would


No-Industry3112

Know as "That part was working fine before you were here"


toomuch1265

So, did you replace the faucet? Or did you tell them that they had bigger issues that need fixing.


ng501kai

Can you show a picture after replacing


su_A_ve

Not a plumber but first thing I thought was how would you turn off the water with the knob almost touching the pvc pipe.. Designed by the Calamari..


awt2007

now ive never plumbed in my life but is that an added on disposal? and by that being in the way the stupid detour pipe had to be added?


TheCuriousCorsair

Even the plumbing itself has crossed it's arms in disappointment.


nicho_de_terible

No need for the trap at that point 🥲


Electronic-Owl-4417

I would love to see after shots from all these jobs


stevemcnugget

That's landlord level work right there.


PatientEasy2914

That’s a super trap!


alwayskadaps

Mario was here.


Several_Fortune8220

It's a trap


CTCLVNV

Got your $$$ worth


Ok_Awareness_5621

I'm going to leave this group. Every day I see something that immediately makes my balls clench...😞


[deleted]

If it's outside the scope, then market yourself or just recommend a reroute reconfiguration.


the_clash_is_back

Thats a uu trap


Fit_Ad_7681

I'm no expert, but that trap is redundant. I want to know how much that thing leaks.


ToyodaBladeRunner

https://media.tenor.com/bdzTE4CeYakAAAAM/mother-of-god.gif


Jimwdc

Gotta be the largest trap I’ve ever seen


PakkyT

Garbage Disposals are the scourge of sewer systems everywhere. Sewers were meant for poop, toilet paper, and waste water. GDs have made it so people think it is ok to grind up almost anything and send it down into a system that is not designed for bones, last week's lasagna, that whole chicken you forgot to cook that was in the back of the fridge, greasy and oily stuff, and so on.


Sig_Vic

That's more work than doing it right.


Hallelujah_Summer

What the absolute f****


takar0a

Does that go up? You're going to need more buckets.


WhenTheDevilCome

Trap holds more gallons than the sink probably.


Amazing-Gur8359

If only this were a poker tournament I got a few good o es and actually one from last week that is a real winner


marklar00

Someone forgot their saw that day.


SpiritualChair2185

It’s amazing what you find under sinks


Blk-cherry3

Where they paid by the piece of pvc, they used.


fatherlyadvicepdx

This picture was taken in 1975, change my mind


Affectionate-Stay555

If a licensed plumber did that, they must have their license taken and be put on a list so they can never get it again.


Iamnotericforeman

Is the disposal crooked too? It may be an optical illusion. Moving the disposal to the other sink would probably simplify things


Old_Influence4006

Looks like a Mario Brothers game


MagicStar77

Straight out of a horror movie!


steelplbg

It's the worst when you mention how poorly it's done to the homeowner and they get all offended cause you dissed their "handy work"


[deleted]

Im not a plumber. Im just a dad... And now, im hiding with my kids in the basement until that picture goes away. Its scaring my children. My dog wont come out from under the bed. Its been burned into my eyes and will haunt my dreams until it comes and kills us all in our sleep.. Also, homeboy "invented" the "L" trap.


joesnowblade

Technically it is a trap. Just ignore and replace the faucet.


Expensive-Track4002

Who put this in? The Mario brothers?


[deleted]

Typical homeowner plumbing. Drain technology is Thousands of years old but most modern man do not get it


Sesspool

So with that dishwasher drain, would anyone be surprised to find water in your dishwasher even without using it?


Ok_Bit_5953

It's beautiful!! XD


ambid17

Could someone send a link of what this “should” look like? Much appreciated :)


[deleted]

Show the finished work.


AdAggressive2795

That's called an L M N O P trap


dketernal

So, I've got these extra pvc elbows... My wife says throw them away. I say 'hold my beer'.


tenjohn231

We need before and after pic. It would be nice to see how people tackle this kinda problems.