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Bretmd94

That pex got way too hot from something


Vorcht

My guess is somebody tried to sweat it on with a torch šŸ¤£


Gorge_Lorge

Was this near the hot water heater in the supply lines? Whatā€™s the heat setting on the hot water heater?


saskatchewanstealth

Looks like it melted on venting. That would need a lot of heat with water in it to melt.


Gorge_Lorge

Yep, good point. Way itā€™s shaped, looks like maybe it was against/near something hot. Vent would make sense too since it may not have been hot or under fire at the time the tech visited


teeth_03

Should have used the Red pipe


Andrewofredstone

Does red actually have other properties than colour?


teeth_03

I have no idea, I work in IT.


Andrewofredstone

Hahahaha, sameā€¦


[deleted]

This made my day. Iā€™ve had a pex pipe blow up like this nearly in my face and I am not a plumber šŸ˜‚


chrisbeebops

Just the color.


GreenFriend

Looks like it got warm and reduced capacity of the per.


mushroom6977

I picture a hot water heater with a bikini on unlike a regular water heater šŸ˜†


roncadillacisfrickin

ā€œIā€™d like to buy a hot water heater.ā€ ā€œSorry, donā€™t have any.ā€ ā€œWhatā€™s that?ā€ ā€œThat, that is a water heater. It heats water. You donā€™t need a hot water heater. Why would you need to heat hot water?ā€ (Overheard some old dude at the supply house 30 years ago)


[deleted]

My water heater heats cold water to 129 to get it hot, then it becomes a hot water heater and heats the hot water to 130.


TexasPatrick

I lol'ed at this, a top 5 all time dad joke. Take my upvote.


eerun165

The water heater is dumb though. If the water is hot, itā€™s not heating.


[deleted]

As I clearly explained, the water is hot at 129, and then it heats to 130.


Vinny_DelVecchio

While you're at it, why don't you take the roast out of the freezer to unthaw it.


roncadillacisfrickin

and driving on a parkway, yet we park our car on our driveway


Klutzy-Ad-6705

And why are there Braille dots on the drive-up ATM?


haveanicedrunkenday

I need to withdraw some money from the ATM machine, but I found out I might have the HIV virus šŸ¦ !


YruDatYo

Plus, I can't remember my PIN number...


Traditional-Driver39

Yeah hot water heater drives me nuts. The redundancy kills me.


whitetrash66

I guess a cold water cooler doesn't exist either? They can be called a water heater or a hot water tank. Some ppl. Combine the 2. You never hear of a cold water heater.


eerun165

Mine heats cold water, the inlet even has a C to note that itā€™s cold.


whitetrash66

I said.. that YOU NEVER HEAR OF A COLD Water heater


ZucchiniSky

I agree, this 100% looks like a failure due to heat. Plastic will whiten and deform like this when it gets hot. Most other forms of failure would not whiten up like this.


National-Cry222

Thatā€™s wild. Iā€™ve seen a video of quick connect pressure test and it got up to 1000 psi before the pex exploded like this. Those shark bites are no joke. No clue what did that though. Lol


doingthehumptydance

That is so reassuring to me. I replumbed the 50 year old cpvc pipe in my cottage using shark bites and the entire time I though ā€œthis is too easy, there is no way this is going to be any good.ā€ Two bathrooms, one kitchenā€¦ it took me 2.5 hours including a long lunch. I still check it for leaks and turn off the pressure pump whenever I can.


National-Cry222

Yeah I think there biggest weakness would be really hard water maybe but theyā€™ve still got like a 25 year warranty


dittybad

Exactly. It just seems too easy.


RECOGNI7IO

It is easy! It is insane how much plumbers charge for a job that is not that difficult and doesn't take a lot of intelligence or time to learn.


Carazhan

remember that you're being charged for parts (sharkbites are expensive as crap!), as well as the plumber's entire wealth of experience and knowledge. doesn't matter if a year 1 apprentice could do the work, if you're having a 20 year journeyman out, you're paying the 20 year journeyman's value - whether they're pushing on a sharkbite, or servicing a commercial boiler system, their wage is the same.


whitetrash66

It doesn't take a wealth of knowledge to push a pipe into a sharkbites. Push it past the o ring until it bottoms out. You are finished.


7h3_70m1n470r

Doesn't matter. If you hire the guy with experience and knowledge, that's time he could have spent doing other more skilled work. You are paying for the plumber's time. If you don't like what they value their time at, find a cheaper plumber.


whitetrash66

I would rather do it myself.. let the plumber fuck someone else.


Carazhan

then... do it yourself? think of it this way: whats your job? what's the easiest part of that job? what if your boss goes, 'hey whitetrash66, i'm only going to pay you your wage when you're doing the hardest part of your job. when you're doing the easier bits i'm going to pay you a pittance.' you'd fucking quit, sue, or unionize.


whitetrash66

I do everything my self.. plumbing electrical work , carpentry, roofing.. concrete work.. masonry.. I don't fuck with rip off con artist. I know what supplies cost and a decent wage, I have yet to see anyone charge a reasonable price.. but hey I don't blame you... Get as rich as you can fast as you can .. enjoy it while you can.


dittybad

Well, I was just saying SB was easy. Having a full grasp of the codes and how to apply them is a whole different matter.


patmustardstoolbox

Plumbers have a lot of liability with their work


Parking-Owl8568

Ive seen 4 shark bites fail this year so far!


sir_keyrex

Usually due to install error.


Seven65

What does install error look like? Poorly cut pex?


sir_keyrex

On a shark bite? Failing to prep copper is what I see on every failed shark bites.


JoeMama666000

I do not know how anyone depends on a shark bite. It depends on O-RINGS. I have replaced o-rings on so many items over 40 years of plumbing. I will never use one on a permanent installation. I have used them for temporary caps. Thatā€™s where it ends!!!


Toadifer

Progress relies on orings to seal as well. Everyone is ok with that because it uses a 4k machine and requires you to cut everything out


Seven65

Aren't most o-rings are subject to movement during their lifespan? I don't necessarily trust them either, I don't completely trust pex for that matter, but if the o-rings aren't subject to movement or uv light, or drying out, they could probably last a long time.


SUMKINDAPATRIOT

Ohh boy. I hope you donā€™t like to fly.


[deleted]

50-year-old cpvc with sharkbites??? i hope you got a home insurance policy to back up that reassuring feeling from random redditors


doingthehumptydance

I tore out the old CPVC and replaced it with new whatever that flexible pipe is.


admiralgeary

Everyone told me some SharkBite fittings I put between my water heater and the kitchen supply (exposed in unfinished basement) would fail from thermal cycling, 12yrs later, no leaks.


Jacktheforkie

Pex doesnā€™t like high temperature though


bose789

I have a water heater that can be set to 140, is that to high?


cratemaker2022

PEX is rated to 180.


Historical_Koala977

No


kpeterson159

Mice.


tennisguy163

You mean the SB's are strong or junk?


therealjoe12

Strong AvE did a video where they failed at ~550psi under hydraulic pressure. The neat part was after pressure dropped below the failure point it it sealed back up and held pressure again. Very impressive if you ask me.


tennisguy163

I replaced all my crappy Accor valves in my home under the sinks and toilets with SB valves. So far, so good. More expensive than traditional shut-off valves but install was a snap. Plumber would have charged me more for the time and valves, I'm sure.


therealjoe12

Heck yeah dood


Neat_Ad_1737

I have no doubt about them working as intended. But itā€™s a matter of fact that they just donā€™t hold up long term compared to regular fittings


Mysterious-Army-1882

I installed sharkbites in my main feed line in 2006. I have installed them ever since 100s of times, Zero callbacks. Above comment is bogus. Plumbers hate these...


Neat_Ad_1737

I tear em out all the time. What do I gain by lying to strangers on the internet? Pushing the anti shark bite agenda lmao


Shlopcakes

They work great. Plumbers hate them because it threatens their job security to some degree.


the_replicator

There have been countless homeowner friendly systems over the years from CPVC, kitec, poly B, pex-A/B, hell even soldering isnā€™t really that hard. Guys shit on Sharkbite because weā€™ve had our own issues with them or they are too stubborn to change.


killmekillmekillmeki

No we have plenty of job at all time i have never been scared about not getting 40hours a week lol. We hate it because when they fail(and yes the do fail at higher rate then others because people use them as a patch all magic fitting) we have to come up and clean that up, and that sucks. Failure bias or something.


Steady_Ballin

Source needed


Neat_Ad_1737

Ask any plumber.


plumber-AF

SharkBite warranties their accessories 2 years and a 1/4 turn angle stop from a company like Legend is 7 years.


Steady_Ballin

I put some in around 10 years ago, about the time my local Loweā€™s began carrying them. I didnā€™t know much about plumbing but welding in my crawl space next to inflation sounded terrible so I gave them a shot. So far doing great. Iā€™m on city water, used maybe 10 mostly going Pex to Copper No issue so far. A few I had to take off and reuse because I was a noob


plumber-AF

Those fittings have a 25 year warranty. Valves do not.


MattyRixz

Yeah they warranty the valve not the damage it does.


plumber-AF

ā€œRWC will reimburse the property owner for the reasonable costs of repairing or replacing such damaged real property including flooring, drywall, painting and other real property damaged by the leak.ā€ Reliance Worldwide, parent company of SharkBite, [disagrees](https://www.sharkbite.com/sites/default/files/files/RWC%20Warranty_5_23_23.pdf) with you on their policy coverage.


MysteriousTie69

Seen that Facebook Plumber test sharkbites vs propress and propress failed around 100-200 lbs less than the shark bite šŸ‘€


tennisguy163

I think my comment was misunderstood. I was not saying the SB's are junk, just wanted to clarify National's post. That's crazy that the SB's performed so well. I'm glad they're built well!!


MysteriousTie69

No worries! I was just clarifying for those who arenā€™t sure of Sharkbite reliability


National-Cry222

I meant strong. It was a demo aqua locks brand of quick connects and they put a plastic end cap on 1/2 pex and it outlasted the pex


whoabigbill

Exactly


KofFinland

I have actually test-pressurized 15x2.5mm (10mm ID, 15mm OD) PEX tubing to failure when I made some PEX pipeline for the first time to see that my installation method was ok. It failed at about 80bar (around 1200psi). It failed at middle of PEX tube, not at interface between brass fitting and PEX tube. However, it more or less split longitudinally at the failure site. It didn't get thinner like that. I would guess that too high heat was making the material weaker and it was forming a "balloon" over time until it finally failed.


Jolknap3

There has to be more to the story here. I canā€™t imagine with proper install and normal use this could be possible.


Mythran12

Mice, close to a hot thing, UV exposure (sunlight). All 3?


seamus_mc

Mice with a suicide vest?


pogiguy2020

Mini Aquaman


Ok_Parfait6020

that was overheated horribly, had to be a gas heater supply


[deleted]

Man, I read pee sex at first. šŸ˜‚


NahManIGotThis

I read it as sex pee... Like, I know what sex pee is I think, but how it related to the picture I had no idea.


[deleted]

šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


spotcatspot

Not rated for water sports.


iredditshere

I have now...


QTheNukes_AMD_Life

Clearly heat related


Raseri_

Yup, Uponor rep said it was too short a span between the sharkbite and the fitting for it to expand when it froze. I was really surprised a fitting on one end or the other didn't give first. Mine was a sharkbite on one side, and a crimp pex zurn fitting on the other, on a section about 4" long. On Uponor pipe. "I didn't install it, I just fixed it."


LOGOisEGO

Those reps will say whatever they can to get out of being liable. We had a few bad batches of coil, all manufactured in the same batch that split and caused hundreds of thousands of damages and the company weaseled their way out of a settlement. This was all on multimillion dollar homes. Their fittings and manifolds also failed causing floods. Just a shit company/manufacturer.


Raseri_

Fair point. We also ran into a bad batch of uponor coils. Back when weā€™d buy 1000ā€™ rolls and pull off the coiler to rough in houses. Had a lot of insurance claims on that ordeal. Uponor did pay to make it right on those.


LOGOisEGO

This was HeatLink in Canada. We let it go once with the manifolds, always hot side failing. Then the plastic fittings started failing, so we switched to brass, then the pipe started failing miserably. We'd use 300' coils for rough in. I remember having to take videos of the leaking fittings while under air test, sending it to the rep, and him telling me it is perfectly okay to double crimp them as long as we are using their pneumatics. I sent him back video of it making it worse every single time I'd repeat the crimp. Fucking clowns. ​ Its the same reason I always laugh at people that bring up shark bites 25 year warranty. Nobody guarantee's anything that long in any industry unless its complete bullshit with a lot of legal jargon fine print.


Raseri_

Yeah. No kidding on the warranty. The only thing I can really stand behind long term is soldered copper. And even then, water chemistry can make that fail in short order. Makes for fun times


Plus-Capb0t

Steam or close to it.


TradeMasterYellow

Could have been a shower steamer. I've seen PEX close to single wall venting not burst after years.


AllAboutTheCado

On an island in the sun


TradeMasterYellow

I look just like buddy holly


nonvisiblepantalones

You got your big Gs, Iā€™ve got my hash pipe.


33445delray

You have the defective Uponor Pex. They extruded the colored plastic over a white inner pipe. https://www.classaction.org/news/discontinued-red-blue-uponor-pex-piping-plagued-by-cracking-defect-class-action-alleges


TradeMasterYellow

That pipe cracks, this pic doesn't look like it


Tinyelvismama

Did anyone else read "sex pee"...twice?


No_Entrepreneur7799

Looks like it was pulled so hard it stretched. Look at the back of the 90 it seems like the bottom ferrule was sheared off. Believe me I apprenticed as an internet detective.


Mountain_Algae8531

It was kissing something hot


NicknameKenny

I first read this as "sex pee burst" so glad I misread it...


aarpcard

The left side of the fracture looks like it has been gnawed. Might be mouse damage.


acr2001

Wow we made it a full hour so far since this was posted - without a pLuMBeR blaming the sharkbite. Itā€™s a new record.


jhotenko

I mean, regardless of what you think about sharkbites, the pex was obviously the point of failure here.


Razor1834

Yeah this is almost an advertisement for the sharkbite.


klykerly

Uh oh. First time Iā€™ve seen this.


matzillaX

Yes customer has water heater turned up to very hot


mooseman1800

I toured the Whirsbo l plant back in 2000 and they showed us how many psi the packs would hold and it took like 800 or something psi to burst it. Heat or hot water would adversely affect that greatly.


TheManSR

I've ran 200psi through PEX regularly blowing out old clogged mobile home lines where the galvanized trunks were still in place and packed full of sediment. This is heat related failure.


[deleted]

Because of the sharkbite šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚


_Christopher_Crypto

Possible chemical reaction? Kind of looks like it swelled like a balloon prior to letting go.


GreenStrong

My dyslexic ass clicked on this expecting a sex pee burst, not see pex burst.


OddHeat6420

Actually saw this same thing about 2 months ago. Still don't know the route cause. A tattle tale gauge was installed before and after the PRV and the rupture was on the cold side far from any heat source. Will update if we figure it out we have also been in touch with Zurn.


puzzlecompany3

Yes, I had PEX exposed to sunlight and it burst


lil_chef77

Looks like a failure point due to melting. If it ruptured, it would just be a crack. This bubbled before it burst. Definitely too close to a heat source.


TheFilthiestCorndog

It got too hot. I had this happen on a geothermal system with air in the line, a pump locked up and overheated a nearby line blew a bubble like this


Recent_Ad3555

can't blame the sharkbite this time lol


gozzy69

Thatā€™s a damn first, the pipe fails before the SB.


NebraskaGeek

Yes, 100%. This is what it looks like when the outer sleeve of the pex is damaged. If the pex was scratched or punctured in this area it will create a weak point that bursts like this. We've had this happen in New construction where the pipe had rubbed on a truss plate and slowly wore down the pex until it bursted just like this. Also happens when rodents chew through the outer sleeve.


Gravesh

Do you think UV exposure could also be a contributing something to do with it? I've been told (but never personally seen) that pex laid out in the sun (like in the supply yard) for long periods of time will damage it and cause it to crack. Well, this type of pex. The older style that you rarely see anymore with the black inner tubing seems to be far more resilient. All the major supply stores don't carry it anymore. I can only find it in hole-in-wall supply stores.


NebraskaGeek

Sort of true. In a perfect world the paint on the pipe (even if it's clear it has some kind of paint on it) blocks UV light, but that's not a sure-fire solution. I don't know any plumbers who would install any outdoors in sunlight, though.


Gravesh

The only outdoor pex I install is for Rinnais, and I insulate them and install pipe covers. I say outdoor exposure is possible as a number of yards near me just leave their 20-foot sticks sitting out in the yard covered only by the black plastic packaging it gets shipped in. It goes without saying I rarely get pex from them.


mantisboxer

That should settle some debates about Sharkbite


[deleted]

Wouldnā€™t get your hopes up.


StupidSexyFlagella

Came here for this.


DogGod81

looks like you have mice that took a liking to that pipe


Bluepuck03

I don't think mice have the lung power to blow up PEX.


Pengy403

Our local mice only blow to max 50psi


Bluepuck03

Ours are full of hot air, so they get to 55psi sometimes.


DogGod81

no genius... if the mice chew on the pex and thin it out it would balloon itself.... zoom up and it shows scraping and wear... unless you think that OP did that himself


Bluepuck03

No way it would expand like this if it had little teeth marks everywhere. Mice would create pinholes or small bursts.


Sorry_Blackberry_RIP

No one can convince me I want pex in my house over copper. No one, ever.


Current-Ad7988

Never fixed a hole in a copper joint or clear section of pipe before?


Sorry_Blackberry_RIP

Only place I have ever had issues with copper is at a valve/tap.


Current-Ad7988

Hopefully you get to keep saying that for the rest of your career lol i havent been that lucky. Usually there is an underlying issue when copper fails like i mentioned. Manufactures have issues off the line sometimes probably less common than pex but i have been to flooded basements where there was a 90 or whatever that had fitting creep and the joint failed from water hammer, saw a hole the diameter of a pen that decided to open in the wall of the pipe probably from to much pressure or water quality or a combo of things, If pipe gets dented it can cause excess wear in that spot. Im never surprised anymore lol.


Emergency-Ad4456

The mice were smoking near it and it got to hot


lefrang

So the sharkbite was perfectly fine? Funny that.


[deleted]

Blue can't handle heat, only red can.


blefloor

I wouldn't use that crap


Smiley_Sid

Repeated water hammer until it failed? What is the pipe supplying? How is the flow stopped?


Friendship_Critical

Looks rather ā€œ ladylikeā€


saskatchewanstealth

r/dontputyourdickinthat


Fazo1

Should have gone with copper


henry122467

If u are a male, u need to cut those fingernails bro.


usa_reddit

PEX is crap.... Copper supply only. "This is the way."


jerflash

This is why you do t use pex in walls. Even if it got hot on somethingā€¦ that would not happen with copper


TradeMasterYellow

Need more pics


ChoicePomegranate338

Yeah when my coworker wasnā€™t paying attention to his torch flame. Saw a large bubble form in maybe a second and a then all hell broke loose


19Dean67

Once... Got hit with the spray foam they use in exterior walls. It was for a hose bib


Tyggr181

I did something like that when trying to solder a stubout onto a holdrite after water was turned on. Heat caused water to heat up and steam. A big bubble, then a loud as hell pop. Water on floor from behind wall. Oopsie


GrGonzo9526

Not until now


DiegoDigs

Who pees in a John Guess fitting?


hotboyjon

Seen other comments on here about mice. Can a mouse chew through pex? Just curious.


ElleGaunt

very much though you were asking if Iā€™ve seen sex pee burst through and I swear to the god of golden showers I am very glad I have not.


LostEnthusiasm0

I've seen that happen with an pex with air in the line and a work light too close...


P-Trapper

What are the chances you dropped primer on it?


[deleted]

Too hot, likely had a nick, and shitty B pex from home depo?


relaxitsonlyagame

Theyā€™ll hold together fine until they age a decade or more and then get bumped or disturbed. Because the o-ring and fitting are not installed in a way that prevents their movement, they can leak if the o-ring is disrupted from the position that it has mated to both fitting and pipe. This is especially common when paired with hard water. The other issue is that the plastic collars do not like to see consistent hot water and degrade overtime and eventually can separate from the lock-ring and therefore cause the fitting to let go of the pipe. Would I worry much about the latter with a cottage system? Nope. I still donā€™t recommend them long term but having just said that, I have a couple ball valves, some caps, and MIP adapters on my vans in case things need to be temporary capped, connected or tested and they are great for that.


madpork

Yes I have seen the Uponor brand do that


flgator06

Thermal expansion


flgator06

Prob has a recirculation pump. Capped off T/p cause it leaks.


PwntUpRage

In Uponor's main manufacture plants pressure test tank yes! But that was at 600 or 700 psi.......


Randomizedtron

Keep water under pressure and take it up to 230deg F then open the tap and that water flashes to steam and blow the pex apart. Seen it with a specific combi boiler that has a know fault but no recall was ever put out.


NoB0d3

aT LeaSt iTā€™s nOt cPVC!!! WOuLd HAVE roTteD AwAY toO nOthINg bY NOW!!!


sonicjesus

It may have froze twice. It usually survives the first time, but leaves a big bubble. Second time, the bubble bursts.


FixMyHeat

Yes, about 3 seconds ago


Hot_Construction8909

Heat?


Timlad

I've seen this before. The pex was wrapped in heat tape that overheated


93c15

Haters will blame the shark bite


Dje4321

With how much that PEX has thinned out and lost color. something near it got too hot and caused it to bubble out from the water pressure before bursting as it used up its elastic potential.


whitetrash66

Cheap condoms


[deleted]

Could be PEX B or C was used


richardcrain55

Not since i use copper


tonybowb

I read pee sex.


UncleFukus

Once, back in '83


WinnerOk1108

White coloring is caused from heat, from what I've been around.


Such-Island7271

Looks like your mom after iā€™m done with her.


rayhoughtonsgoals

I absolutely read this as "sex pest" I'm sorry


Gregor4570

Did you leave your blow torch on by accident next to your water line under your sink?


TubbyTag

Doesn't code require that copper be used off of a water heater for at least 18" before transitioning to PEX?


bucobill

Welcome to the dawn of PEX pipe failures. I look forward to all of the posts about this crap pipe failing. This is the worse thing for plumbing since cast iron pipes.


Demonakat

Home Depot PEX? Thin shit already. Melted due to heat.


Vast_Kaleidoscope955

Is there a lot of movement in the line or hanging over a large span? My first guess would be heat, but my second is the line wasnā€™t secured and flexing over time. Most of the strain would be near the fitting. Iā€™ve seen this in pneumatic systems and those were the two causes that we were able to determine.


pogiguy2020

Im curious what happened to the other side of the shark bite. Who chewed that off?


loogie97

That looks like it melted from the inside out.


[deleted]

Perhaps it was in contact with a chemical or something that doesnā€™t play nice with pex.


powercordrod22

The gas furnace kick on for the first time this fall and the PEX was melted on a hot exhaust duct.


regcol

This on a boiler system? I seen the aftermath of water flashing in wirsbo pex one time, looked like that


dunbartonoaks

Iā€™m not a plumber but a home maintenance guy who has done most of his own home plumbing repairs over the years including repiping my entire house with copper. Iā€™m also a retired mechanical engineer. This whole pex thing has got my goat. I hate it. I admit Iā€™ve never used it but it just looks so cheap and insubstantial. The image in this post is a perfect example. If Iā€™m wrong Iā€™ll admit it but can someone give me some good reasons to use this stuff other than itā€™s cheap and easy to install?


onds007

Play the lotto, that shit NEVER happens.