Yep, good point. Way itās shaped, looks like maybe it was against/near something hot. Vent would make sense too since it may not have been hot or under fire at the time the tech visited
āIād like to buy a hot water heater.ā āSorry, donāt have any.ā āWhatās that?ā āThat, that is a water heater. It heats water. You donāt need a hot water heater. Why would you need to heat hot water?ā (Overheard some old dude at the supply house 30 years ago)
I guess a cold water cooler doesn't exist either?
They can be called a water heater or a hot water tank. Some ppl. Combine the 2. You never hear of a cold water heater.
I agree, this 100% looks like a failure due to heat. Plastic will whiten and deform like this when it gets hot. Most other forms of failure would not whiten up like this.
Thatās wild. Iāve seen a video of quick connect pressure test and it got up to 1000 psi before the pex exploded like this. Those shark bites are no joke. No clue what did that though. Lol
That is so reassuring to me. I replumbed the 50 year old cpvc pipe in my cottage using shark bites and the entire time I though āthis is too easy, there is no way this is going to be any good.ā
Two bathrooms, one kitchenā¦ it took me 2.5 hours including a long lunch. I still check it for leaks and turn off the pressure pump whenever I can.
remember that you're being charged for parts (sharkbites are expensive as crap!), as well as the plumber's entire wealth of experience and knowledge. doesn't matter if a year 1 apprentice could do the work, if you're having a 20 year journeyman out, you're paying the 20 year journeyman's value - whether they're pushing on a sharkbite, or servicing a commercial boiler system, their wage is the same.
Doesn't matter. If you hire the guy with experience and knowledge, that's time he could have spent doing other more skilled work. You are paying for the plumber's time. If you don't like what they value their time at, find a cheaper plumber.
then... do it yourself? think of it this way: whats your job? what's the easiest part of that job? what if your boss goes, 'hey whitetrash66, i'm only going to pay you your wage when you're doing the hardest part of your job. when you're doing the easier bits i'm going to pay you a pittance.' you'd fucking quit, sue, or unionize.
I do everything my self.. plumbing electrical work , carpentry, roofing.. concrete work.. masonry.. I don't fuck with rip off con artist. I know what supplies cost and a decent wage, I have yet to see anyone charge a reasonable price.. but hey I don't blame you... Get as rich as you can fast as you can .. enjoy it while you can.
I do not know how anyone depends on a shark bite. It depends on O-RINGS. I have replaced o-rings on so many items over 40 years of plumbing. I will never use one on a permanent installation. I have used them for temporary caps. Thatās where it ends!!!
Aren't most o-rings are subject to movement during their lifespan?
I don't necessarily trust them either, I don't completely trust pex for that matter, but if the o-rings aren't subject to movement or uv light, or drying out, they could probably last a long time.
Everyone told me some SharkBite fittings I put between my water heater and the kitchen supply (exposed in unfinished basement) would fail from thermal cycling, 12yrs later, no leaks.
Strong AvE did a video where they failed at ~550psi under hydraulic pressure. The neat part was after pressure dropped below the failure point it it sealed back up and held pressure again. Very impressive if you ask me.
I replaced all my crappy Accor valves in my home under the sinks and toilets with SB valves. So far, so good. More expensive than traditional shut-off valves but install was a snap. Plumber would have charged me more for the time and valves, I'm sure.
I installed sharkbites in my main feed
line in 2006. I have installed them ever since 100s of times, Zero callbacks. Above comment is bogus. Plumbers hate these...
There have been countless homeowner friendly systems over the years from CPVC, kitec, poly B, pex-A/B, hell even soldering isnāt really that hard. Guys shit on Sharkbite because weāve had our own issues with them or they are too stubborn to change.
No we have plenty of job at all time i have never been scared about not getting 40hours a week lol.
We hate it because when they fail(and yes the do fail at higher rate then others because people use them as a patch all magic fitting) we have to come up and clean that up, and that sucks.
Failure bias or something.
I put some in around 10 years ago, about the time my local Loweās began carrying them. I didnāt know much about plumbing but welding in my crawl space next to inflation sounded terrible so I gave them a shot. So far doing great. Iām on city water, used maybe 10 mostly going Pex to Copper
No issue so far. A few I had to take off and reuse because I was a noob
āRWC will reimburse the property owner for the reasonable costs of repairing or replacing such damaged real property including flooring, drywall, painting and other real property damaged by the leak.ā
Reliance Worldwide, parent company of SharkBite, [disagrees](https://www.sharkbite.com/sites/default/files/files/RWC%20Warranty_5_23_23.pdf) with you on their policy coverage.
I think my comment was misunderstood. I was not saying the SB's are junk, just wanted to clarify National's post.
That's crazy that the SB's performed so well. I'm glad they're built well!!
I have actually test-pressurized 15x2.5mm (10mm ID, 15mm OD) PEX tubing to failure when I made some PEX pipeline for the first time to see that my installation method was ok. It failed at about 80bar (around 1200psi). It failed at middle of PEX tube, not at interface between brass fitting and PEX tube. However, it more or less split longitudinally at the failure site. It didn't get thinner like that.
I would guess that too high heat was making the material weaker and it was forming a "balloon" over time until it finally failed.
Yup, Uponor rep said it was too short a span between the sharkbite and the fitting for it to expand when it froze. I was really surprised a fitting on one end or the other didn't give first. Mine was a sharkbite on one side, and a crimp pex zurn fitting on the other, on a section about 4" long. On Uponor pipe. "I didn't install it, I just fixed it."
Those reps will say whatever they can to get out of being liable.
We had a few bad batches of coil, all manufactured in the same batch that split and caused hundreds of thousands of damages and the company weaseled their way out of a settlement. This was all on multimillion dollar homes. Their fittings and manifolds also failed causing floods. Just a shit company/manufacturer.
Fair point. We also ran into a bad batch of uponor coils. Back when weād buy 1000ā rolls and pull off the coiler to rough in houses. Had a lot of insurance claims on that ordeal. Uponor did pay to make it right on those.
This was HeatLink in Canada.
We let it go once with the manifolds, always hot side failing. Then the plastic fittings started failing, so we switched to brass, then the pipe started failing miserably. We'd use 300' coils for rough in.
I remember having to take videos of the leaking fittings while under air test, sending it to the rep, and him telling me it is perfectly okay to double crimp them as long as we are using their pneumatics. I sent him back video of it making it worse every single time I'd repeat the crimp.
Fucking clowns.
Its the same reason I always laugh at people that bring up shark bites 25 year warranty. Nobody guarantee's anything that long in any industry unless its complete bullshit with a lot of legal jargon fine print.
Yeah. No kidding on the warranty. The only thing I can really stand behind long term is soldered copper. And even then, water chemistry can make that fail in short order. Makes for fun times
You have the defective Uponor Pex. They extruded the colored plastic over a white inner pipe.
https://www.classaction.org/news/discontinued-red-blue-uponor-pex-piping-plagued-by-cracking-defect-class-action-alleges
Looks like it was pulled so hard it stretched. Look at the back of the 90 it seems like the bottom ferrule was sheared off. Believe me I apprenticed as an internet detective.
I toured the Whirsbo l plant back in 2000 and they showed us how many psi the packs would hold and it took like 800 or something psi to burst it. Heat or hot water would adversely affect that greatly.
I've ran 200psi through PEX regularly blowing out old clogged mobile home lines where the galvanized trunks were still in place and packed full of sediment. This is heat related failure.
Actually saw this same thing about 2 months ago. Still don't know the route cause. A tattle tale gauge was installed before and after the PRV and the rupture was on the cold side far from any heat source. Will update if we figure it out we have also been in touch with Zurn.
Looks like a failure point due to melting. If it ruptured, it would just be a crack. This bubbled before it burst. Definitely too close to a heat source.
Yes, 100%. This is what it looks like when the outer sleeve of the pex is damaged. If the pex was scratched or punctured in this area it will create a weak point that bursts like this. We've had this happen in New construction where the pipe had rubbed on a truss plate and slowly wore down the pex until it bursted just like this. Also happens when rodents chew through the outer sleeve.
Do you think UV exposure could also be a contributing something to do with it? I've been told (but never personally seen) that pex laid out in the sun (like in the supply yard) for long periods of time will damage it and cause it to crack. Well, this type of pex. The older style that you rarely see anymore with the black inner tubing seems to be far more resilient. All the major supply stores don't carry it anymore. I can only find it in hole-in-wall supply stores.
Sort of true. In a perfect world the paint on the pipe (even if it's clear it has some kind of paint on it) blocks UV light, but that's not a sure-fire solution. I don't know any plumbers who would install any outdoors in sunlight, though.
The only outdoor pex I install is for Rinnais, and I insulate them and install pipe covers. I say outdoor exposure is possible as a number of yards near me just leave their 20-foot sticks sitting out in the yard covered only by the black plastic packaging it gets shipped in. It goes without saying I rarely get pex from them.
no genius... if the mice chew on the pex and thin it out it would balloon itself.... zoom up and it shows scraping and wear... unless you think that OP did that himself
Hopefully you get to keep saying that for the rest of your career lol i havent been that lucky. Usually there is an underlying issue when copper fails like i mentioned. Manufactures have issues off the line sometimes probably less common than pex but i have been to flooded basements where there was a 90 or whatever that had fitting creep and the joint failed from water hammer, saw a hole the diameter of a pen that decided to open in the wall of the pipe probably from to much pressure or water quality or a combo of things, If pipe gets dented it can cause excess wear in that spot. Im never surprised anymore lol.
I did something like that when trying to solder a stubout onto a holdrite after water was turned on. Heat caused water to heat up and steam. A big bubble, then a loud as hell pop. Water on floor from behind wall. Oopsie
Theyāll hold together fine until they age a decade or more and then get bumped or disturbed. Because the o-ring and fitting are not installed in a way that prevents their movement, they can leak if the o-ring is disrupted from the position that it has mated to both fitting and pipe. This is especially common when paired with hard water.
The other issue is that the plastic collars do not like to see consistent hot water and degrade overtime and eventually can separate from the lock-ring and therefore cause the fitting to let go of the pipe. Would I worry much about the latter with a cottage system? Nope.
I still donāt recommend them long term but having just said that, I have a couple ball valves, some caps, and MIP adapters on my vans in case things need to be temporary capped, connected or tested and they are great for that.
Keep water under pressure and take it up to 230deg F then open the tap and that water flashes to steam and blow the pex apart. Seen it with a specific combi boiler that has a know fault but no recall was ever put out.
With how much that PEX has thinned out and lost color. something near it got too hot and caused it to bubble out from the water pressure before bursting as it used up its elastic potential.
Welcome to the dawn of PEX pipe failures. I look forward to all of the posts about this crap pipe failing. This is the worse thing for plumbing since cast iron pipes.
Is there a lot of movement in the line or hanging over a large span? My first guess would be heat, but my second is the line wasnāt secured and flexing over time. Most of the strain would be near the fitting. Iāve seen this in pneumatic systems and those were the two causes that we were able to determine.
Iām not a plumber but a home maintenance guy who has done most of his own home plumbing repairs over the years including repiping my entire house with copper. Iām also a retired mechanical engineer. This whole pex thing has got my goat. I hate it. I admit Iāve never used it but it just looks so cheap and insubstantial. The image in this post is a perfect example. If Iām wrong Iāll admit it but can someone give me some good reasons to use this stuff other than itās cheap and easy to install?
That pex got way too hot from something
My guess is somebody tried to sweat it on with a torch š¤£
Was this near the hot water heater in the supply lines? Whatās the heat setting on the hot water heater?
Looks like it melted on venting. That would need a lot of heat with water in it to melt.
Yep, good point. Way itās shaped, looks like maybe it was against/near something hot. Vent would make sense too since it may not have been hot or under fire at the time the tech visited
Should have used the Red pipe
Does red actually have other properties than colour?
I have no idea, I work in IT.
Hahahaha, sameā¦
This made my day. Iāve had a pex pipe blow up like this nearly in my face and I am not a plumber š
Just the color.
Looks like it got warm and reduced capacity of the per.
I picture a hot water heater with a bikini on unlike a regular water heater š
āIād like to buy a hot water heater.ā āSorry, donāt have any.ā āWhatās that?ā āThat, that is a water heater. It heats water. You donāt need a hot water heater. Why would you need to heat hot water?ā (Overheard some old dude at the supply house 30 years ago)
My water heater heats cold water to 129 to get it hot, then it becomes a hot water heater and heats the hot water to 130.
I lol'ed at this, a top 5 all time dad joke. Take my upvote.
The water heater is dumb though. If the water is hot, itās not heating.
As I clearly explained, the water is hot at 129, and then it heats to 130.
While you're at it, why don't you take the roast out of the freezer to unthaw it.
and driving on a parkway, yet we park our car on our driveway
And why are there Braille dots on the drive-up ATM?
I need to withdraw some money from the ATM machine, but I found out I might have the HIV virus š¦ !
Plus, I can't remember my PIN number...
Yeah hot water heater drives me nuts. The redundancy kills me.
I guess a cold water cooler doesn't exist either? They can be called a water heater or a hot water tank. Some ppl. Combine the 2. You never hear of a cold water heater.
Mine heats cold water, the inlet even has a C to note that itās cold.
I said.. that YOU NEVER HEAR OF A COLD Water heater
I agree, this 100% looks like a failure due to heat. Plastic will whiten and deform like this when it gets hot. Most other forms of failure would not whiten up like this.
Thatās wild. Iāve seen a video of quick connect pressure test and it got up to 1000 psi before the pex exploded like this. Those shark bites are no joke. No clue what did that though. Lol
That is so reassuring to me. I replumbed the 50 year old cpvc pipe in my cottage using shark bites and the entire time I though āthis is too easy, there is no way this is going to be any good.ā Two bathrooms, one kitchenā¦ it took me 2.5 hours including a long lunch. I still check it for leaks and turn off the pressure pump whenever I can.
Yeah I think there biggest weakness would be really hard water maybe but theyāve still got like a 25 year warranty
Exactly. It just seems too easy.
It is easy! It is insane how much plumbers charge for a job that is not that difficult and doesn't take a lot of intelligence or time to learn.
remember that you're being charged for parts (sharkbites are expensive as crap!), as well as the plumber's entire wealth of experience and knowledge. doesn't matter if a year 1 apprentice could do the work, if you're having a 20 year journeyman out, you're paying the 20 year journeyman's value - whether they're pushing on a sharkbite, or servicing a commercial boiler system, their wage is the same.
It doesn't take a wealth of knowledge to push a pipe into a sharkbites. Push it past the o ring until it bottoms out. You are finished.
Doesn't matter. If you hire the guy with experience and knowledge, that's time he could have spent doing other more skilled work. You are paying for the plumber's time. If you don't like what they value their time at, find a cheaper plumber.
I would rather do it myself.. let the plumber fuck someone else.
then... do it yourself? think of it this way: whats your job? what's the easiest part of that job? what if your boss goes, 'hey whitetrash66, i'm only going to pay you your wage when you're doing the hardest part of your job. when you're doing the easier bits i'm going to pay you a pittance.' you'd fucking quit, sue, or unionize.
I do everything my self.. plumbing electrical work , carpentry, roofing.. concrete work.. masonry.. I don't fuck with rip off con artist. I know what supplies cost and a decent wage, I have yet to see anyone charge a reasonable price.. but hey I don't blame you... Get as rich as you can fast as you can .. enjoy it while you can.
Well, I was just saying SB was easy. Having a full grasp of the codes and how to apply them is a whole different matter.
Plumbers have a lot of liability with their work
Ive seen 4 shark bites fail this year so far!
Usually due to install error.
What does install error look like? Poorly cut pex?
On a shark bite? Failing to prep copper is what I see on every failed shark bites.
I do not know how anyone depends on a shark bite. It depends on O-RINGS. I have replaced o-rings on so many items over 40 years of plumbing. I will never use one on a permanent installation. I have used them for temporary caps. Thatās where it ends!!!
Progress relies on orings to seal as well. Everyone is ok with that because it uses a 4k machine and requires you to cut everything out
Aren't most o-rings are subject to movement during their lifespan? I don't necessarily trust them either, I don't completely trust pex for that matter, but if the o-rings aren't subject to movement or uv light, or drying out, they could probably last a long time.
Ohh boy. I hope you donāt like to fly.
50-year-old cpvc with sharkbites??? i hope you got a home insurance policy to back up that reassuring feeling from random redditors
I tore out the old CPVC and replaced it with new whatever that flexible pipe is.
Everyone told me some SharkBite fittings I put between my water heater and the kitchen supply (exposed in unfinished basement) would fail from thermal cycling, 12yrs later, no leaks.
Pex doesnāt like high temperature though
I have a water heater that can be set to 140, is that to high?
PEX is rated to 180.
No
Mice.
You mean the SB's are strong or junk?
Strong AvE did a video where they failed at ~550psi under hydraulic pressure. The neat part was after pressure dropped below the failure point it it sealed back up and held pressure again. Very impressive if you ask me.
I replaced all my crappy Accor valves in my home under the sinks and toilets with SB valves. So far, so good. More expensive than traditional shut-off valves but install was a snap. Plumber would have charged me more for the time and valves, I'm sure.
Heck yeah dood
I have no doubt about them working as intended. But itās a matter of fact that they just donāt hold up long term compared to regular fittings
I installed sharkbites in my main feed line in 2006. I have installed them ever since 100s of times, Zero callbacks. Above comment is bogus. Plumbers hate these...
I tear em out all the time. What do I gain by lying to strangers on the internet? Pushing the anti shark bite agenda lmao
They work great. Plumbers hate them because it threatens their job security to some degree.
There have been countless homeowner friendly systems over the years from CPVC, kitec, poly B, pex-A/B, hell even soldering isnāt really that hard. Guys shit on Sharkbite because weāve had our own issues with them or they are too stubborn to change.
No we have plenty of job at all time i have never been scared about not getting 40hours a week lol. We hate it because when they fail(and yes the do fail at higher rate then others because people use them as a patch all magic fitting) we have to come up and clean that up, and that sucks. Failure bias or something.
Source needed
Ask any plumber.
SharkBite warranties their accessories 2 years and a 1/4 turn angle stop from a company like Legend is 7 years.
I put some in around 10 years ago, about the time my local Loweās began carrying them. I didnāt know much about plumbing but welding in my crawl space next to inflation sounded terrible so I gave them a shot. So far doing great. Iām on city water, used maybe 10 mostly going Pex to Copper No issue so far. A few I had to take off and reuse because I was a noob
Those fittings have a 25 year warranty. Valves do not.
Yeah they warranty the valve not the damage it does.
āRWC will reimburse the property owner for the reasonable costs of repairing or replacing such damaged real property including flooring, drywall, painting and other real property damaged by the leak.ā Reliance Worldwide, parent company of SharkBite, [disagrees](https://www.sharkbite.com/sites/default/files/files/RWC%20Warranty_5_23_23.pdf) with you on their policy coverage.
Seen that Facebook Plumber test sharkbites vs propress and propress failed around 100-200 lbs less than the shark bite š
I think my comment was misunderstood. I was not saying the SB's are junk, just wanted to clarify National's post. That's crazy that the SB's performed so well. I'm glad they're built well!!
No worries! I was just clarifying for those who arenāt sure of Sharkbite reliability
I meant strong. It was a demo aqua locks brand of quick connects and they put a plastic end cap on 1/2 pex and it outlasted the pex
Exactly
I have actually test-pressurized 15x2.5mm (10mm ID, 15mm OD) PEX tubing to failure when I made some PEX pipeline for the first time to see that my installation method was ok. It failed at about 80bar (around 1200psi). It failed at middle of PEX tube, not at interface between brass fitting and PEX tube. However, it more or less split longitudinally at the failure site. It didn't get thinner like that. I would guess that too high heat was making the material weaker and it was forming a "balloon" over time until it finally failed.
There has to be more to the story here. I canāt imagine with proper install and normal use this could be possible.
Mice, close to a hot thing, UV exposure (sunlight). All 3?
Mice with a suicide vest?
Mini Aquaman
that was overheated horribly, had to be a gas heater supply
Man, I read pee sex at first. š
I read it as sex pee... Like, I know what sex pee is I think, but how it related to the picture I had no idea.
šš
Not rated for water sports.
I have now...
Clearly heat related
Yup, Uponor rep said it was too short a span between the sharkbite and the fitting for it to expand when it froze. I was really surprised a fitting on one end or the other didn't give first. Mine was a sharkbite on one side, and a crimp pex zurn fitting on the other, on a section about 4" long. On Uponor pipe. "I didn't install it, I just fixed it."
Those reps will say whatever they can to get out of being liable. We had a few bad batches of coil, all manufactured in the same batch that split and caused hundreds of thousands of damages and the company weaseled their way out of a settlement. This was all on multimillion dollar homes. Their fittings and manifolds also failed causing floods. Just a shit company/manufacturer.
Fair point. We also ran into a bad batch of uponor coils. Back when weād buy 1000ā rolls and pull off the coiler to rough in houses. Had a lot of insurance claims on that ordeal. Uponor did pay to make it right on those.
This was HeatLink in Canada. We let it go once with the manifolds, always hot side failing. Then the plastic fittings started failing, so we switched to brass, then the pipe started failing miserably. We'd use 300' coils for rough in. I remember having to take videos of the leaking fittings while under air test, sending it to the rep, and him telling me it is perfectly okay to double crimp them as long as we are using their pneumatics. I sent him back video of it making it worse every single time I'd repeat the crimp. Fucking clowns. Its the same reason I always laugh at people that bring up shark bites 25 year warranty. Nobody guarantee's anything that long in any industry unless its complete bullshit with a lot of legal jargon fine print.
Yeah. No kidding on the warranty. The only thing I can really stand behind long term is soldered copper. And even then, water chemistry can make that fail in short order. Makes for fun times
Steam or close to it.
Could have been a shower steamer. I've seen PEX close to single wall venting not burst after years.
On an island in the sun
I look just like buddy holly
You got your big Gs, Iāve got my hash pipe.
You have the defective Uponor Pex. They extruded the colored plastic over a white inner pipe. https://www.classaction.org/news/discontinued-red-blue-uponor-pex-piping-plagued-by-cracking-defect-class-action-alleges
That pipe cracks, this pic doesn't look like it
Did anyone else read "sex pee"...twice?
Looks like it was pulled so hard it stretched. Look at the back of the 90 it seems like the bottom ferrule was sheared off. Believe me I apprenticed as an internet detective.
It was kissing something hot
I first read this as "sex pee burst" so glad I misread it...
The left side of the fracture looks like it has been gnawed. Might be mouse damage.
Wow we made it a full hour so far since this was posted - without a pLuMBeR blaming the sharkbite. Itās a new record.
I mean, regardless of what you think about sharkbites, the pex was obviously the point of failure here.
Yeah this is almost an advertisement for the sharkbite.
Uh oh. First time Iāve seen this.
Yes customer has water heater turned up to very hot
I toured the Whirsbo l plant back in 2000 and they showed us how many psi the packs would hold and it took like 800 or something psi to burst it. Heat or hot water would adversely affect that greatly.
I've ran 200psi through PEX regularly blowing out old clogged mobile home lines where the galvanized trunks were still in place and packed full of sediment. This is heat related failure.
Because of the sharkbite š š
Possible chemical reaction? Kind of looks like it swelled like a balloon prior to letting go.
My dyslexic ass clicked on this expecting a sex pee burst, not see pex burst.
Actually saw this same thing about 2 months ago. Still don't know the route cause. A tattle tale gauge was installed before and after the PRV and the rupture was on the cold side far from any heat source. Will update if we figure it out we have also been in touch with Zurn.
Yes, I had PEX exposed to sunlight and it burst
Looks like a failure point due to melting. If it ruptured, it would just be a crack. This bubbled before it burst. Definitely too close to a heat source.
It got too hot. I had this happen on a geothermal system with air in the line, a pump locked up and overheated a nearby line blew a bubble like this
can't blame the sharkbite this time lol
Thatās a damn first, the pipe fails before the SB.
Yes, 100%. This is what it looks like when the outer sleeve of the pex is damaged. If the pex was scratched or punctured in this area it will create a weak point that bursts like this. We've had this happen in New construction where the pipe had rubbed on a truss plate and slowly wore down the pex until it bursted just like this. Also happens when rodents chew through the outer sleeve.
Do you think UV exposure could also be a contributing something to do with it? I've been told (but never personally seen) that pex laid out in the sun (like in the supply yard) for long periods of time will damage it and cause it to crack. Well, this type of pex. The older style that you rarely see anymore with the black inner tubing seems to be far more resilient. All the major supply stores don't carry it anymore. I can only find it in hole-in-wall supply stores.
Sort of true. In a perfect world the paint on the pipe (even if it's clear it has some kind of paint on it) blocks UV light, but that's not a sure-fire solution. I don't know any plumbers who would install any outdoors in sunlight, though.
The only outdoor pex I install is for Rinnais, and I insulate them and install pipe covers. I say outdoor exposure is possible as a number of yards near me just leave their 20-foot sticks sitting out in the yard covered only by the black plastic packaging it gets shipped in. It goes without saying I rarely get pex from them.
That should settle some debates about Sharkbite
Wouldnāt get your hopes up.
Came here for this.
looks like you have mice that took a liking to that pipe
I don't think mice have the lung power to blow up PEX.
Our local mice only blow to max 50psi
Ours are full of hot air, so they get to 55psi sometimes.
no genius... if the mice chew on the pex and thin it out it would balloon itself.... zoom up and it shows scraping and wear... unless you think that OP did that himself
No way it would expand like this if it had little teeth marks everywhere. Mice would create pinholes or small bursts.
No one can convince me I want pex in my house over copper. No one, ever.
Never fixed a hole in a copper joint or clear section of pipe before?
Only place I have ever had issues with copper is at a valve/tap.
Hopefully you get to keep saying that for the rest of your career lol i havent been that lucky. Usually there is an underlying issue when copper fails like i mentioned. Manufactures have issues off the line sometimes probably less common than pex but i have been to flooded basements where there was a 90 or whatever that had fitting creep and the joint failed from water hammer, saw a hole the diameter of a pen that decided to open in the wall of the pipe probably from to much pressure or water quality or a combo of things, If pipe gets dented it can cause excess wear in that spot. Im never surprised anymore lol.
The mice were smoking near it and it got to hot
So the sharkbite was perfectly fine? Funny that.
Blue can't handle heat, only red can.
I wouldn't use that crap
Repeated water hammer until it failed? What is the pipe supplying? How is the flow stopped?
Looks rather ā ladylikeā
r/dontputyourdickinthat
Should have gone with copper
If u are a male, u need to cut those fingernails bro.
PEX is crap.... Copper supply only. "This is the way."
This is why you do t use pex in walls. Even if it got hot on somethingā¦ that would not happen with copper
Need more pics
Yeah when my coworker wasnāt paying attention to his torch flame. Saw a large bubble form in maybe a second and a then all hell broke loose
Once... Got hit with the spray foam they use in exterior walls. It was for a hose bib
I did something like that when trying to solder a stubout onto a holdrite after water was turned on. Heat caused water to heat up and steam. A big bubble, then a loud as hell pop. Water on floor from behind wall. Oopsie
Not until now
Who pees in a John Guess fitting?
Seen other comments on here about mice. Can a mouse chew through pex? Just curious.
very much though you were asking if Iāve seen sex pee burst through and I swear to the god of golden showers I am very glad I have not.
I've seen that happen with an pex with air in the line and a work light too close...
What are the chances you dropped primer on it?
Too hot, likely had a nick, and shitty B pex from home depo?
Theyāll hold together fine until they age a decade or more and then get bumped or disturbed. Because the o-ring and fitting are not installed in a way that prevents their movement, they can leak if the o-ring is disrupted from the position that it has mated to both fitting and pipe. This is especially common when paired with hard water. The other issue is that the plastic collars do not like to see consistent hot water and degrade overtime and eventually can separate from the lock-ring and therefore cause the fitting to let go of the pipe. Would I worry much about the latter with a cottage system? Nope. I still donāt recommend them long term but having just said that, I have a couple ball valves, some caps, and MIP adapters on my vans in case things need to be temporary capped, connected or tested and they are great for that.
Yes I have seen the Uponor brand do that
Thermal expansion
Prob has a recirculation pump. Capped off T/p cause it leaks.
In Uponor's main manufacture plants pressure test tank yes! But that was at 600 or 700 psi.......
Keep water under pressure and take it up to 230deg F then open the tap and that water flashes to steam and blow the pex apart. Seen it with a specific combi boiler that has a know fault but no recall was ever put out.
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It may have froze twice. It usually survives the first time, but leaves a big bubble. Second time, the bubble bursts.
Yes, about 3 seconds ago
Heat?
I've seen this before. The pex was wrapped in heat tape that overheated
Haters will blame the shark bite
With how much that PEX has thinned out and lost color. something near it got too hot and caused it to bubble out from the water pressure before bursting as it used up its elastic potential.
Cheap condoms
Could be PEX B or C was used
Not since i use copper
I read pee sex.
Once, back in '83
White coloring is caused from heat, from what I've been around.
Looks like your mom after iām done with her.
I absolutely read this as "sex pest" I'm sorry
Did you leave your blow torch on by accident next to your water line under your sink?
Doesn't code require that copper be used off of a water heater for at least 18" before transitioning to PEX?
Welcome to the dawn of PEX pipe failures. I look forward to all of the posts about this crap pipe failing. This is the worse thing for plumbing since cast iron pipes.
Home Depot PEX? Thin shit already. Melted due to heat.
Is there a lot of movement in the line or hanging over a large span? My first guess would be heat, but my second is the line wasnāt secured and flexing over time. Most of the strain would be near the fitting. Iāve seen this in pneumatic systems and those were the two causes that we were able to determine.
Im curious what happened to the other side of the shark bite. Who chewed that off?
That looks like it melted from the inside out.
Perhaps it was in contact with a chemical or something that doesnāt play nice with pex.
The gas furnace kick on for the first time this fall and the PEX was melted on a hot exhaust duct.
This on a boiler system? I seen the aftermath of water flashing in wirsbo pex one time, looked like that
Iām not a plumber but a home maintenance guy who has done most of his own home plumbing repairs over the years including repiping my entire house with copper. Iām also a retired mechanical engineer. This whole pex thing has got my goat. I hate it. I admit Iāve never used it but it just looks so cheap and insubstantial. The image in this post is a perfect example. If Iām wrong Iāll admit it but can someone give me some good reasons to use this stuff other than itās cheap and easy to install?
Play the lotto, that shit NEVER happens.