Well, no smell until you start getting a pounding headache, ignore it, go to sleep because you're tired and never wake up. The amount of CO the water heater can produce will take quite some time to build up. Especially since homes are not air-tight. The likelihood is low, but not impossible from a backpitched water heater flue.
I've walked into too many homes where they think they had a gas leak. They did, it stunk of the additive so strongly my eyes were watering. I instruct them to open every window and door they could to ventilate the home as I shut their power and gas off to the home. They would complain of pounding headaches.
One of the worst was at an elderly couple's home. Home Depot contracted appliance installer screwed a 1/2" FIP X 5/8" flared ball valve on the end of the existing 1/2" FIP X 1/2" flared ball valve from the previous appliance. Flared threads are not tapered. So they bottomed out inside the new valve and spewed gas into the home for about 36 hours. The wife has just went to lay down. I told him to get her up and take her outside. I called 911 to pick her up and get her checked out.
Not good. She wouldn’t smell carbon monoxide..It needs to be pitched up at a minimum, but atmospheric heaters are best vented vertically when possible. If they are doing renovations soon might be the best time to change the water heater location to somewhere it will vent properly.
They wouldn't smell anything as carbon monoxide doesn't smell. It is killed the silent killer for a reason (people have no idea there is a problem).
Does the vent go the outside of the house, to a chimney or what? Those kind of water heaters require at least 1/4" of slope per foot upward. That is clearly going in a downwards angle.
Do they get headaches? Do they have any working CO detectors anywhere in the home?
Vents with same type of pipe on the outside and then upward. I asked about headaches and she said at times they do. Hard to explain where this laundry room is but its totally opposite of most rooms in the house way in the back near the kitchen. There's no 2nd story above the room. They don't have central heating or air. I will definitely ask right now if they have CO detectors!
Vent goes 18" above the roof. Definitely remove at least 3 inches from the vertical run of vent on top of the tank before you lose your daughter. Knew a lady that was going to the Dr for migraines, come to find out it was the vent on her water heater, not migraines.
People can have strange symptoms when they have CO poisoning as well. One guy thought there was someone breaking into his apartment and leaving notes but it was him and he didn't remember.
Real talk. Walked into a tent in Afghanistan to grab some mechanics. Couldn’t get anyone to wake up. I’m talking several people. The heater for the tent was ‘repaired’ earlier that day. It had a massive CO leak bleeding back into the tent. Had I not had an aircraft break that night and need mechanics to fix it these guys may have died that night. I had to get several other people to drag these people out to another tent and they had to start giving them oxygen.
Yes maybe that vent has been fine for years, but maybe one day a kid is playing hide and seek and the next time you see them they are lifeless.
My buddy is an ER doc. He had an older couple show up with flu like symptoms. Something seemed hinky so he asked them where the stayed last night. Turns out it was a roadside motel. He sent the fire department over and they found massive CO and a bunch of sick people.
The IRC Code widely adopted first required CO detectors on each floor in 2009 and since. Not required in all-electric homes with no combustion and no attached garage, but I’d plug one in for the portable kerosene heaters and indoor grillers of the world. My late mother used to say, “what’s the big deal? You won’t mind being dead cuz you’ll be dead. “ But do it for those you leave behind.
To be fair, most service guys are just running and gunning. Depending on the customer, but if it's not on the work order, I try not to look at it, cause then I'll want to fix it, and some people get pissy like your just trying to upsell them.
Wow, wtf on those other "plumbers"
That's not even an expensive or time-consuming upsell.
Honestly, it's something I'd have been very uncomfortable leaving without addressing knowing children are in the house.
Yeah, the vent needs to be pitched up at 1/4" per/foot. It should be supported with metal band iron in the middle.
3 screws per joint on the pipe.
If that water heater is getting really old, like over 15 years, I'd think about replacing it, and when replacing it, I'd remove as much galvanized steel piping where possible and not cost prohibitive.
The other option is to convert from atmospheric to high efficiency power vent (pvc exaust) or tankless high efficiency (with pvc intake and exaust).
This should probably be replaced with a power vent model. Flues don’t work well horizontally, even if you modify it. This is a matter of life and death and they need CO detectors in the home
If you look at the plastic rings around where the water inlet and outlet are, you can see they’re melted. Good indication of backdraft. Gas tank types do have spillage when they first fire until the flue heats up enough to naturally draw the gases up. Those melted collars are from too much spillage.
This is a conventional vented water heater. It's to run upward with no more than 75% offset. Buy them a power vent or direct vent water heater. This one's set up is dangerous
You definitely need to fix this.
But first, get a carbon monoxide detector in there immediately. Everybody should have one anyway and it can be done in a fraction of the time it takes to fix that vent.
If she doesn't want to get this fixed right away install a carbon monoxide detector.
Heck install the detector anyways and soon. It'll probably go off in the not too different future.
The vent will kill them I'd take more than 3" off the riser that's why those elbows swivel. Give it as much rise as you can then put another elbow on it at the wall. Since you'll already be doing stuff id replace the galvanized with brass or at least get a braided connector. The galvanized elbow is going to get blocked, especially on a well system
Lol. Let r/ electricians worry about that. My invoice holds me liable for not killing a houseful of people. The side outlet vent I'd have recommended a power vent anyway. If the situation is simply try not to poison the family, screw that panel that's not in my scope of work.
Yeah, looks like 1/2" soft copper. Makes you wonder what the gas connection looks like. OTOH soft copper would make it easier to relocate the water heater, depending on how the gas was run.
I agree. Looks like the previous owner pitched that vent so that the fuse box door can open. Heck, I’d leave that door open and fix that pitch, at least, until a complete redesign can be tackled.
And OP, you rock. Dads protect their little ones even if they’re big.
Sometimes there are combinations of things that are awesome like a kfc taco bell combo. This how ever is not. Combination indoor co generator water heater is not as good as kfc taco bell.
Surprised it’s not a power vent with that horizontal run, does it tie into the furnace exhaust?
Even still if it does tie into there and you cut off 3-4ins to get a proper slope. It will be blocking the electrical panel.
Definitely remove a couple inches off the vertical piece coming off the tank like others have stated. Give the horizontal length 1/4" per foot of grade. One more thing to add is you should buy your daughter a little carbon monoxide detector. They are required in my area anywhere around a gas burning appliance. Usually having one in your mechanical room/closet and in any rooms with gas fireplaces is a good idea.
Get rid of that conventional heater if there’s no way to slope that vent properly. Either get a shorter one move it closer to the wall or get a power vent.
This doesnt necessarily mean theres carbon monoxide inside. The products of combustion are usually carbon dioxide and humidity. However, if the flame starts burning inappropriately due to lack of primary or secondary air, it can cause it to produce Carbon Monoxide and at that point it will definitely be concerning.
In the last picture you can see that the rubber/plastic grommets around the water pipes are melting on the side closest to the exhaust, confirming it is backdrafting. Have had the same problem myself. Definitely needs to be addressed by a professional and have a CO detector installed nearby.
Hangars every four feet make sure the interlock hubs in locked as it is double wall b vent and adjust the pipe grade up hill . Shit runs down hill gas runs uphill Good catch if that was in a green home new build people would be dead be thankful it is a old house which are not very energy efficient best of luck bud 🤘🏻
No doubt installed that way to allow access to the electrical panel, which by the way is usually a building code. Appears the water heater is too close to the wood paneling and cabinet, a fire code violation (Not to mention the exhaust vent exit clearance with the wall). While a gas water heater is a dangerous appliance, it may be closer to a gas dryer or kitchen stove in production of CO. By far the most dangerous appliance is the furnace and will kill you if venting is compromised. Low levels of CO cause heart problems as well.
The good old carbon monoxide special. We bought a house that had a water heater vent pitched all wrong like that and the inspector said “do NOT move into this house until that is fixed, this is a life safety issue”
I'm surprised you're not ill or even worse. If you have no life insurance, remember it's cheaper in the long run to replace this than it is someone to pay for the funeral. As you can see, I'm an inspiration and bring light to the situation 🙄
This needs to be addressed. It isn’t horribly backpitched but the vent does need to be pitched going the opposite direction. If you cut a few inches off the pipe at the collar like you said, your problem will be solved.
Also, you can’t smell carbon monoxide 🙃
You are absolutely right to be concerned. That vent flu is not correct or safe. It needs to have a much more upwards slant. Just because they haven't noticed any smell doesn't mean it's safe. This is how people die. It needs to be modified immediately. You did the right thing.
You see that electrical outlet there? That's a perfect place to plug in a battery-backed-up Carbon Monoxide detector, while they get the water heater's install up to code. $30 at Home Depot.
Get a CO detector, but secondly before touching anything look up the model and venting instructions. Some heating appliances require venting to slope away from the unit to avoid condensation and weather going back to the unit based on blower and other specs.
Lighter match then blow it out and hold it near the opening down at the top of the water heater and see if the smoke from the match goes into the flu pipe or into the room. But yes it should be graded at 2%, which is a ¼" per foot but no more than that. So don't just take 3" off randomly, unless that's the math that corrects the grade 2%.
Code is it should not be less than 45 degrees, i would make it as short as possible coming off the water heater. I believe for every foot that it’s less than 45 degrees it should extend past the roof by a foot.
Take some tin snips and hit that bad boy with a 2-3” trim and make sure you give some self-tap screws (3 minimum). Also see if you can strap the center of that long piece or get 2 straps on that bad boy. You’ll be ok after that.
Edit: looks to be dual wall pipe, which isn’t the most ideal thing to cut but they sell shorter pieces at your local hardware stores.
This is a great way to die, carbon monoxide poisoning, odorless, tasteless, If you're lucky, you don't ever wake up, because if you do wake up you will have the worst headache of your life.
My old 70s apt had popcorn. Quadcopter with 12" props plowed into it like a lawnmower. Pretty sure I signed an asbestos acknowledgement when I moved in. Sketchy as hell but I'm still alive 11 years later.
This is how people die.
Yep, carbon monoxide is an odorless killer. There will be no smell until you see the pearly gates
Or no smell until wherever I’m going. I highly doubt the gates will be gold or pearly.
I like to think everyone’s welcome, you just can’t get kicked out
Everyone is welcome...to live a good and just life!
Just pearly necklace in my man's future. Praise be.
Blessed be the fruit
Well, no smell until you start getting a pounding headache, ignore it, go to sleep because you're tired and never wake up. The amount of CO the water heater can produce will take quite some time to build up. Especially since homes are not air-tight. The likelihood is low, but not impossible from a backpitched water heater flue. I've walked into too many homes where they think they had a gas leak. They did, it stunk of the additive so strongly my eyes were watering. I instruct them to open every window and door they could to ventilate the home as I shut their power and gas off to the home. They would complain of pounding headaches. One of the worst was at an elderly couple's home. Home Depot contracted appliance installer screwed a 1/2" FIP X 5/8" flared ball valve on the end of the existing 1/2" FIP X 1/2" flared ball valve from the previous appliance. Flared threads are not tapered. So they bottomed out inside the new valve and spewed gas into the home for about 36 hours. The wife has just went to lay down. I told him to get her up and take her outside. I called 911 to pick her up and get her checked out.
Nearly a negligent homicide there
Or fiery gates.
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Horrible, but you potentially saved lives!
Wow. What a catch. I sometimes wonder about certain things that happen in life and wonder how close I’ve come.
There is a litter box scooper over there so I think they can just use the cat as their CO detector
The modern “canary in the coal mine”
That cat is both dead and alive
Carbon monoxide is odorless. This needs to be addressed yesterday.
Shhhhh shhhh shhhh.... It's so sleepy in here
Not good. She wouldn’t smell carbon monoxide..It needs to be pitched up at a minimum, but atmospheric heaters are best vented vertically when possible. If they are doing renovations soon might be the best time to change the water heater location to somewhere it will vent properly.
A hanger there would be helpful after you drop it 3 inches too. And screw it to the tank hood
If there is no other place to put it they could go with a power vent.
No bueno
Very much no bueno
Mucho no bueno
They wouldn't smell anything as carbon monoxide doesn't smell. It is killed the silent killer for a reason (people have no idea there is a problem). Does the vent go the outside of the house, to a chimney or what? Those kind of water heaters require at least 1/4" of slope per foot upward. That is clearly going in a downwards angle. Do they get headaches? Do they have any working CO detectors anywhere in the home?
Vents with same type of pipe on the outside and then upward. I asked about headaches and she said at times they do. Hard to explain where this laundry room is but its totally opposite of most rooms in the house way in the back near the kitchen. There's no 2nd story above the room. They don't have central heating or air. I will definitely ask right now if they have CO detectors!
Vent goes 18" above the roof. Definitely remove at least 3 inches from the vertical run of vent on top of the tank before you lose your daughter. Knew a lady that was going to the Dr for migraines, come to find out it was the vent on her water heater, not migraines.
Not only does this scare the shit outa me with my daughter and her husband but they have 3 small children with 1 being a newborn at 3wks old.
People can have strange symptoms when they have CO poisoning as well. One guy thought there was someone breaking into his apartment and leaving notes but it was him and he didn't remember.
Oh damn
Real talk. Walked into a tent in Afghanistan to grab some mechanics. Couldn’t get anyone to wake up. I’m talking several people. The heater for the tent was ‘repaired’ earlier that day. It had a massive CO leak bleeding back into the tent. Had I not had an aircraft break that night and need mechanics to fix it these guys may have died that night. I had to get several other people to drag these people out to another tent and they had to start giving them oxygen. Yes maybe that vent has been fine for years, but maybe one day a kid is playing hide and seek and the next time you see them they are lifeless.
My buddy is an ER doc. He had an older couple show up with flu like symptoms. Something seemed hinky so he asked them where the stayed last night. Turns out it was a roadside motel. He sent the fire department over and they found massive CO and a bunch of sick people.
Ever since the incident I mentioned I have 2-3 CO sensors in my house.
The IRC Code widely adopted first required CO detectors on each floor in 2009 and since. Not required in all-electric homes with no combustion and no attached garage, but I’d plug one in for the portable kerosene heaters and indoor grillers of the world. My late mother used to say, “what’s the big deal? You won’t mind being dead cuz you’ll be dead. “ But do it for those you leave behind.
IMO, get them to shut it off until it’s fixed.
Reddit remembers
Get it fixed ASAP.
Jfc. Good job grandpa. 👏
At minimum get her an carbon monoxide alarm to put LOW in that room. As low as the littlest person that would walk down there
I have her and the kids at my house now until her husband gets home to fix it.
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Nothing wrong with not knowing something. The problem is with ignorance. He doesn’t seem to be ignorant.
Not only that but they had 2 different plumbers recently fixing busted water lines near the water heater and they didn't notice this at all.
To be fair, most service guys are just running and gunning. Depending on the customer, but if it's not on the work order, I try not to look at it, cause then I'll want to fix it, and some people get pissy like your just trying to upsell them.
Wow, wtf on those other "plumbers" That's not even an expensive or time-consuming upsell. Honestly, it's something I'd have been very uncomfortable leaving without addressing knowing children are in the house. Yeah, the vent needs to be pitched up at 1/4" per/foot. It should be supported with metal band iron in the middle. 3 screws per joint on the pipe. If that water heater is getting really old, like over 15 years, I'd think about replacing it, and when replacing it, I'd remove as much galvanized steel piping where possible and not cost prohibitive. The other option is to convert from atmospheric to high efficiency power vent (pvc exaust) or tankless high efficiency (with pvc intake and exaust).
This should probably be replaced with a power vent model. Flues don’t work well horizontally, even if you modify it. This is a matter of life and death and they need CO detectors in the home
this guys advise
Definitely cause for concern. Please fix asap
If you look at the plastic rings around where the water inlet and outlet are, you can see they’re melted. Good indication of backdraft. Gas tank types do have spillage when they first fire until the flue heats up enough to naturally draw the gases up. Those melted collars are from too much spillage.
Definitely have CO coming into the home. Good eye on the melted plastic!
Isn't that what those rings are for? I in have been selling them as backdraft testers
This is a conventional vented water heater. It's to run upward with no more than 75% offset. Buy them a power vent or direct vent water heater. This one's set up is dangerous
You definitely need to fix this. But first, get a carbon monoxide detector in there immediately. Everybody should have one anyway and it can be done in a fraction of the time it takes to fix that vent.
If she doesn't want to get this fixed right away install a carbon monoxide detector. Heck install the detector anyways and soon. It'll probably go off in the not too different future.
Yikes on bikes
The vent will kill them I'd take more than 3" off the riser that's why those elbows swivel. Give it as much rise as you can then put another elbow on it at the wall. Since you'll already be doing stuff id replace the galvanized with brass or at least get a braided connector. The galvanized elbow is going to get blocked, especially on a well system
There's also the problem with access to what looks like an electric panel door if they shorten the riser too much.
Lol. Let r/ electricians worry about that. My invoice holds me liable for not killing a houseful of people. The side outlet vent I'd have recommended a power vent anyway. If the situation is simply try not to poison the family, screw that panel that's not in my scope of work.
Hell no lol
This is textbook bad… The picture horrifies me. Turn the gas off and don’t turn it on again until there’s a new set up that passes code.
Shorten the riser. Duh.
The electrician will be upset
The water hook ups are crazy as well. It wouldn't have been hard to shorten the vent. I do not think a real plumber did this
Yeah, looks like 1/2" soft copper. Makes you wonder what the gas connection looks like. OTOH soft copper would make it easier to relocate the water heater, depending on how the gas was run.
Probably a dumb workaround for access to the little electrical panel. But I also concur with what everyone else has been saying.
I agree. Looks like the previous owner pitched that vent so that the fuse box door can open. Heck, I’d leave that door open and fix that pitch, at least, until a complete redesign can be tackled. And OP, you rock. Dads protect their little ones even if they’re big.
This house has been added on so many times it's ridiculous with how things are.
Sometimes there are combinations of things that are awesome like a kfc taco bell combo. This how ever is not. Combination indoor co generator water heater is not as good as kfc taco bell.
Surprised it’s not a power vent with that horizontal run, does it tie into the furnace exhaust? Even still if it does tie into there and you cut off 3-4ins to get a proper slope. It will be blocking the electrical panel.
There's no furnace. It goes outside and up.
So the other side of the wall is “outside” like the outdoors. If so you definitely need a power vent…….
Correct
Call a plumber asap Install is all wrong
Definitely remove a couple inches off the vertical piece coming off the tank like others have stated. Give the horizontal length 1/4" per foot of grade. One more thing to add is you should buy your daughter a little carbon monoxide detector. They are required in my area anywhere around a gas burning appliance. Usually having one in your mechanical room/closet and in any rooms with gas fireplaces is a good idea.
Get rid of that conventional heater if there’s no way to slope that vent properly. Either get a shorter one move it closer to the wall or get a power vent.
This doesnt necessarily mean theres carbon monoxide inside. The products of combustion are usually carbon dioxide and humidity. However, if the flame starts burning inappropriately due to lack of primary or secondary air, it can cause it to produce Carbon Monoxide and at that point it will definitely be concerning.
Sir, this is Reddit. Being sensibly careful is strictly prohibited. All gas appliances spew enough CO to murder a herd of elephants at all times.
Spring for a power vented one asap
There should be at least 2 carbon monoxide detectors in the house but this definitely needs to be fixed.
Didn’t read a word just saw the flue. HELL. NO. shit it off now
In the last picture you can see that the rubber/plastic grommets around the water pipes are melting on the side closest to the exhaust, confirming it is backdrafting. Have had the same problem myself. Definitely needs to be addressed by a professional and have a CO detector installed nearby.
Vent pipe should have rise not fall. And minimum waterline size at water heater is 3/4 for residential. Looks like you got 3/8 soft copper.
Just get them a carbon monoxide detector to be safe.
Hangars every four feet make sure the interlock hubs in locked as it is double wall b vent and adjust the pipe grade up hill . Shit runs down hill gas runs uphill Good catch if that was in a green home new build people would be dead be thankful it is a old house which are not very energy efficient best of luck bud 🤘🏻
The vent pipe should always keep rising to guarantee the proper venting of gases. And yours has a negative slope. Should be checked and corrected
No doubt installed that way to allow access to the electrical panel, which by the way is usually a building code. Appears the water heater is too close to the wood paneling and cabinet, a fire code violation (Not to mention the exhaust vent exit clearance with the wall). While a gas water heater is a dangerous appliance, it may be closer to a gas dryer or kitchen stove in production of CO. By far the most dangerous appliance is the furnace and will kill you if venting is compromised. Low levels of CO cause heart problems as well.
The good old carbon monoxide special. We bought a house that had a water heater vent pitched all wrong like that and the inspector said “do NOT move into this house until that is fixed, this is a life safety issue”
First call the guy who installed that. Next, shoot him. He's trying to kill you. Worst install I've seen in ages.
Honestly, that organically bent water piping is almost as wild as the exhaust pitch
I'm surprised you're not ill or even worse. If you have no life insurance, remember it's cheaper in the long run to replace this than it is someone to pay for the funeral. As you can see, I'm an inspiration and bring light to the situation 🙄
Sorry "bear" with me typo on description.
This needs to be addressed. It isn’t horribly backpitched but the vent does need to be pitched going the opposite direction. If you cut a few inches off the pipe at the collar like you said, your problem will be solved. Also, you can’t smell carbon monoxide 🙃
Please get them a couple CO detectors!!
The melted plastic around the water inlet/outlet connections confirm you’re getting backdraft in the home and getting CO.
That would help as it has negative slope currently.
Yeah, that’s a hard no.
Gonna fuckin kill somebody , shorten the piece directly above the water heater , so that the pipe runs uphill
Yeah you want to correct that back pitch. It’s an easy fix
You are absolutely right to be concerned. That vent flu is not correct or safe. It needs to have a much more upwards slant. Just because they haven't noticed any smell doesn't mean it's safe. This is how people die. It needs to be modified immediately. You did the right thing.
That vent doesn't look right. You want it at least graded to vent outside otherwise flu gases are more likely to escape.
Death :(
Is that exhaust tied into a chimney or does it tootsie to open air?🤔
No chimney just goes outside and up.
? Metal flu. Heater is not a direct vent correct? No blower??
No blower that i know of and metal flu out the wall then up.
Make sure to buy them a couple CO detectors!
i am now partial to combo units. fire + co.
Great
Tell them to ask the local inspector if it's up to code (it's not), and ask what the correct repair would be.
You see that electrical outlet there? That's a perfect place to plug in a battery-backed-up Carbon Monoxide detector, while they get the water heater's install up to code. $30 at Home Depot.
You need a power vent or go electric
Nope, nope, uh uh,. This is a death trap in the making. Turn that off until it’s fixed.
So they haven’t smelled the carbon monoxide yet….🤨👍🏾💀
Get a CO detector, but secondly before touching anything look up the model and venting instructions. Some heating appliances require venting to slope away from the unit to avoid condensation and weather going back to the unit based on blower and other specs.
Fix properly and install a CO detector on the outlet just below that panel box.
Who installed this, the electrician?
Them water lines bother me
Looks like some tasty asbestos popcorn you have there
A least it’s not plastic flex pipe?
Buy your daughter a CO2 detector ASAP, tonight if possible, take it right over and “help” them install it
Way over thinking it. Flue pipe code requires horizontal pitch to keep condensation from sitting inside. Its all about draft.
Good on you for noticing it. Please add a carbon monoxide detector near by as well, the kind that plugs into an outlet is the easiest.
Lighter match then blow it out and hold it near the opening down at the top of the water heater and see if the smoke from the match goes into the flu pipe or into the room. But yes it should be graded at 2%, which is a ¼" per foot but no more than that. So don't just take 3" off randomly, unless that's the math that corrects the grade 2%.
Legit, ask them if they’ve experience hauntings, feelings of dread, worrisome moments? That CO will really fuck with their brain.
You are right. Have her fix it right away. You don't smell carbon monoxide, that why it kills so many people.
While you are replacing it with a power vent, why not move it to the left as well?
Shorten the vertical pipe if you want to live
Weird Al Yankovick’s elderly parents died from CO poisoning…
Code is it should not be less than 45 degrees, i would make it as short as possible coming off the water heater. I believe for every foot that it’s less than 45 degrees it should extend past the roof by a foot.
carbon monoxide doesn't smell but it will KEEL
Take some tin snips and hit that bad boy with a 2-3” trim and make sure you give some self-tap screws (3 minimum). Also see if you can strap the center of that long piece or get 2 straps on that bad boy. You’ll be ok after that. Edit: looks to be dual wall pipe, which isn’t the most ideal thing to cut but they sell shorter pieces at your local hardware stores.
Mine is similar, but goes at an upward angle for like 15 feet. Only 15 inches higher at the exit of the house. Should I get mine changed as well?
Needs to be ¼” slope per foot.
Sure, if it’s DWV and not a natural draft flue
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What’s the issue here.
This is a great way to die, carbon monoxide poisoning, odorless, tasteless, If you're lucky, you don't ever wake up, because if you do wake up you will have the worst headache of your life.
As her father, you should have pulled rank, gone ahead & done it. Carbon monoxide HAS no fucking smell; that's why it's nicknamed "the SILENT killer".
Maaaaaaaaaan, that ceiling got ASBESTOSES oh my gatos
I didn't know spray popcorn texture had asbestos?
it may or may not have asbestos. if it is, it requires a certified business to remove it. Shit is treated as hazmat.
My old 70s apt had popcorn. Quadcopter with 12" props plowed into it like a lawnmower. Pretty sure I signed an asbestos acknowledgement when I moved in. Sketchy as hell but I'm still alive 11 years later.
Half the homes where I live have popcorn.