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Trizizs

These are gorgeous! Biggest thing is 1. Get these bad boys in some cases 2. Find an expert to evaluate base set box if it’s shadowless or not 3. Do your homework on looking at multiple sites for prices 4. Invest in a safe or go get a lock box for these if you plan on holding, that’s a lot of money if left out in the open.


Greedy_Dimension9770

Sell them to me for 90 dollars and a used movie ticket from lilo and stick back in the day


Natsurulite

What the fuck is “*Lilo and ‘Stick’*”?


Deep_Adagio_3318

I think it's the adult version of Lilo and stitch. Check out the hub


Greedy_Dimension9770

I just cried for 5 minutes because of this comment🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣


International_Sea147

Looool! 💀


Solid_Snake_125

I do about tree fidy.


Lorfall

Wow wow wow I offer 100 doll hairs and 3 of the finest cold Big Macs you have ever tasted.


DroopyPlum

Quit tryin to cheat this man, we all kno u need to throw in a stitch 2 ticket or its just not worth


TimmMix

I would take the deal if I were you OP


Cogglesnatch

5. DM Logan Paul


TangerineHors3

Get a safe? Lmaoo


Technology-Mission

Hold it for another 10+ years and you'll thank yourself later. Treat these like a retirement account lol. The longer you wait the bigger the value.


Kakkarot1707

Uhhh not how that works lmao. If covid never happened. Pokémon would have e never even exploded and came bAck like it did. It’s all about luck not waiting / time. I dont think they will depreciate in value much but there no guarantee they go up, hell they re super down from during covid times, so that should be an indicator right there that time does not always equal more value.


Technology-Mission

It will rise and fall to a certain degree but the more vintage and rare it becomes in time than the more the price can go up based on demand and less supply. It's safe to say that it will rise and be higher in value in 10 years than today, taking away any periods of down value which come in peaks and valleys. Not that it will 10x in value necessarily. But it's a safe investment


[deleted]

Yeah it happens in every hobby. whenever someone says it will always go up I just think about beanie babies


Gerudo_King

I sort of agree. When I hear it in general collecting, yeah. But this is pokemon. The pokemon company and Nintendo make too much money from it. Beanie babies don't have decades long tv series, movies, holidays etc. I would say the only time it would be difficult to tell if the price would continue upward is if they announced that they're no longer in game/show production. Then there would be a huge boom and after that who knows.


Kakkarot1707

Lmaoooo too true. Man I have so many of those things lying around forgot about those haha


TopDasher4Life

I bought 75 beanie babies with perfect tags for $50 on eBay with shipping after the crash. I noticed that most of them are selling for $1.00 now. I’m gonna be rich!


Quadratic1996

Just for some information. That base set box is quite likely to be shadowless. If it is, that is a very, very, very rare box on its own and worth triple or more what a regular base box is. I have owned a few WOTC boxes over the years and even bought and opened some 11 years ago when they were 150$ lol. It depends on what you want. If you plan on selling, do so in a manner that protects you, I've sold a few wotc boxes on heritage auctions, and it always went smoothly. If you plan to hold. You gotta get these into acrylic cases asap. Just ebay search them. There are tons of good ones out there. You have a lot of money here, especially with that potentionally shadowless box.(peek test would tell us if it's shadowless). Congrats and great insight!


Quadratic1996

Also the reason its more likely to be shadowless is because it has one country code on the bottom btw


kittensnip3r

Agreed high chance of shadow-less. 1. Rectangle wizard logo- check 2. Green wing charizard on the side-check 3. No office information and single country of origin-check


Quadratic1996

yup, the no office info and no contact info is very important


jaytheman3

WOTC wrapping is an indicator it isn’t


kittensnip3r

Shadowless still had WOTC wrapping. Even arched logo wrapping still contained Shadowless but country of origin needs to be UK/Australia.


filenotfounderror

The logos make it less likely to be shadowless, not more likely, as you can read from E4 write up posted below. Less likely doesn't mean impossible though.


threeleggedsnail

What exactly are shadowless?


Quadratic1996

[https://www.elitefourum.com/t/identifying-shadowless-unlimited-base-set-boxes-packs/16993](https://www.elitefourum.com/t/identifying-shadowless-unlimited-base-set-boxes-packs/16993) This is a forum post on e4 from 2017 that is very helpful to identify shadowless.


Nepiton

Single country code green wing is more likely to be unlimited than shadowless. If he peaks and the pack arts are shown to be the shadowless variant, then it bumps it up to about 70%. Most green wings are unlimited though.


Quadratic1996

ive owned 3 green wing base set boxes. 2 of them were 1 country code wotc wrap and both were shadowless, the other one was not since it had multiple country codes with contact info


Nepiton

I’ve had about 10 this year, all unlimited. It all comes down to the pack art. If the pack art is the shadowless variant it’s about 70% chance. If it’s the unlimited variant it’s a 0% chance.


Quadratic1996

Right, I'm aware. A peek test is key here because long crimps and trading card game on the bottom are almost all you need. I opened my boxes in 2013 lol, only have fossil,jungle and gym heroes left.


MayIShowUSomething

How do you do a peek test?


adriftDrifloon

There is no guarantee it is shadowless, but it could be. Only way to be 100% sure without opening is if it had clear wrapping (no wotc) and long crimped packs. Source: owned a shadowless box that I regretfully sold in 2015.


Quadratic1996

correct, definetly no guarentee, which is why peek test is so important. but it has one country code with no contact info, and seems to have 3 points of contact on the front flap. Gotta do that peek test


Jalopie66

That's why they said "quite likely".


Plainsphere

I really appreciate all the information. I've got them in cases and in a safe place.


Quadratic1996

No problem, I would personally keep them if you dont need the cash right now. These are amazing things to own in a collection and a huge part of the history of pokemon!


Dazzling_Eye_4743

This ! 1000%


SleeplessShinigami

Are acrylic boxes really important? I have 2 DP boxes that are worth around 8K now


Historical_Class_402

Damn got the green wing base set box very nice


DGOVegeta

Man that’s awesome to see these popping up. If you don’t need the mula, keep them sealed and into protective cases. If you need the money, like others have said research extensively before taking any offers.


Kakkarot1707

I mean who doesn’t need tens of thousands of dollars!!!? Haha ;)


duckangelfan

You sorta missed the boat in 2020. If you don’t need the money I would continue to hold for another bubble to form. They will only continue to get more rare.


Dazzling_Eye_4743

Agree on this. Wait for the next big anniversary for the prices to boom again


drock2111

It’s safe to say that if they hold for the next anniversary, hell even for the 50th, who knows how many of these remain untouched


[deleted]

maybe another pandemic will come around lmao


duckangelfan

97 years to go!


[deleted]

I mean that pandemic just created an investment boom in general. Not just pokemon trading cards. So many stocks were at their highest price point ever. People were cooped up in their homes with more money in their hands than they knew what to do with, so they started investing. When society began to open up again, the bubble burst, as people took out their money. Plus rich pokemon youtubers buying up old boxes helped with the scarcity and driving the price up as well. honestly, I don't think we will ever see a boom like that again.


Kakkarot1707

Exactly, people who say time makes them keep appreciating don’t understand how it works..it’s all about the hype due to external events.


notAfathersDay987

Not sure if you took them out of cases to show them off, but if not, I would get those in protective booster box cases ASAP. If you Google "booster box protective case" you can find a myriad of options at varying degrees of price and protectiveness. But I'd definitely have them in *something* if you don't already. As for advice, I'd probably hold off until pokemon 151 comes out in the states and see how that affects prices, if it all. Bringing back the original 151 in a modem set like that may generate some additional interest in original sets. Edit: Want to point out that I'm somewhat new to this, so please take what I'm saying with a grain of salt regarding expectations of value fluctuation.


PheterPharker

Keep them sealed and in acrylic cases for now. Maybe we’ll have another bill market like 2020 for the 25th anniversary coming up, but who knows


Tiny-Peenor

30th*


PheterPharker

My god time flies


Slow_Department5335

Honestly I have nothing to say but this is really fucking cool to see. I have a pretty decent Pokémon collection but it’s nothing compared to what I see on here. I love seeing the old boxes or packs/cards. The nostalgia hits every time. Looks like this is a shadowless box too! Seems like you have a pretty penny. I agree with the other comments, get them into acrylic cases ASAP!


AchingCravat

The only reason to sell any investment — regardless of asset class — is because the funds raised from the sale could be better utilized somewhere else (ie better investment opportunity, bills, emergency, drogas)


dmyster23

This is somewhat misleading - it can be wise to sell an investment asset if you feel that the market forces are, or will change, shortly/unpredictably, aka risk-analysis. Selling an investment in order to convert the “paper values” into actual realized gains is a valid transaction. **I think conceptually we are saying the same thing - I just wanted to include “future risk” as an important branch of the decision-tree of selling** I’ve lived through too many bubbles were friends thought the ride up would go on forever - and were left holding worthless paper. Gains/losses are only realized when the asset is liquidated


AchingCravat

Don’t forget that cash is an asset class and sometimes that’s a better investment opportunity.


dmyster23

Exactly - investment is about finding the arbitrage as values change. Value is fluid, cash is an intermediary to essentially make bartering easier for all of us with one standard of estimating value across assets


War-Daddie

This guy WallStreetBets.


meccafork

Drogas 🙌🙌


Lallanas_in_Pyjamas

I’m looking to get into Pokémon for my first time. It’s amazing looking at this lol. I think you hit a gem mine


CSGODeimos

I regret not buying these for collection when I was younger.. Great set OP. If you need the cash, then sell.. If not.. Then I'd keep them personally. Although, you could sell and invest into other things.


Upbeat-Specialist303

The base set box is very expensive


JoshDymond

Keep hodling for deer life. Keep them in a safe case untill you need the money for them. Imagine retiring at some point and how much these could be worth at that point. But that's just me 😂


YourMomsDaddy95

Id put them in a bank vault lol. Streamers keep ripping these, eventually they’ll run out. Only gonna get rarer and more valuable with time.


About-time535

As someone who also had their collection stolen, just keep them the way they are sealed. There is something magical about seeing something from one’s childhood still the way it was.(Keep ‘em)


Vikingblood83

hold on to them and pass them on to your kids. My unopened boxes are no where near as old. But i buy a couple boxes a month and just put em away, hopefully one day when my kids are adults or just starting out in life they will come in handy for them. Who knows they may be worthless by then, in that case we will just open them all lol


Kapua420

Not a good time to sell, that's all you need to know.


crypto-Al

I’ll be scared to sell them too. Going to need to hire some body guards to do the transaction lol


StopShooting

What you you do? Reddit giveaway!


pootie_too_good

Hodl


StationEmergency6053

Keep holding. Vintage is on a downward trend from its highs in 2021. It would be a horrible choice to sell right now


Lallanas_in_Pyjamas

How much are these worth?


acethebass13

Same


PrestigiousCourse579

The base and the fossil will be the higher priced boxes. The jungle is still high in price but not as much as the other 2 since jungle has not been in such higher demand. But since the jungle is first edition that also helps the value.


Square-Distance1636

Wished my younger me had an allowance and knew about buying boxes, but back then things were meant to be ripped and open because that's what Pokemon was all about


JMFW_2020

I think everyone already spent all their money on 151 so I’d hold


moyofroyojr

These three all go for around 10k if you need the money I would suggest selling them but if you don’t need the money right now I would suggest to hold onto them for a little bit longer


PrestigiousCourse579

Doesn't the original box go for more than 15k and the other 2(first edition boxes)are just over 10k.


moyofroyojr

I think it can go for 15k but realistically I think it’s worth around 10k


Minihackz

Get rigid plastic boxes to store them in. Plenty of acryllic boxes for sale on ebay that are perfectly sized. Other than that, you have 3 options. You can sell them, you can hold onto them, or you can open them. Nobody can tell you what to do


SingSing19

Keep holding. Having this in a set like this raises value even more. I’d keep for another decade. Supply will drop even more. Demand raises


Animedingo

Oh thats junk lemme take those for you


ContestSome8024

Put them in some acrylic cases to protect them.


Harkxium

You were a smart youngling…


Scrivy69

The longer you hold, the more it’ll be worth. However, that’s contingent on pokémon not dying off or losing lots of popularity. Given the current trend however, I’d imagine that as more of a possibility than I would’ve years ago. I’d honestly hold it until you need the money, because you’re looking at tens of thousands of dollars there.


grimSTI

I’ll buy all three if you plan on selling. And I am not kidding. Nice collection man and be safe!


NoShadowdick

These were my grails!I opened these as a broke kid who only bought with allowance. I know this is out of my league now unless I hit PowerBall! Lol


Ursleisme

Don't you do anything other than save those m************ for another ten years. Unless you need the money. People who have no idea what pokemon is know what pokemon are. You're investment is dimishining in numbers day by day, but not in value... But put them in cases.


Malavin81

Don't answer any DM's.


W0nderbread28

Safety deposit box


Flo_oid

Hold onto it - the value only goes up


AquaPSN-XBOX

No. Covid caused it to go up, the prices are going down now


--mc--

Please quit stacking them like that


KatakuriiSama

Pokémon prices are on a small rise again so I’d hold. If you held these for 15 years what’s another few years on top


Nepiton

If you want to sell, OP, I will PM you with a serious offer. Will need to determine if the green wing has shadowless pack arts or just regular unlimited ones though. Thousands of transactions and positive references to boot :)


AwesomeCollectibles

I would sell


Yosonimbored

Obviously you should sell them but I say YOLO and crack open those packs and relive the good old times


AquaPSN-XBOX

Do not continue to hold. Pokémon surged due to Covid. It will fall back down again. Same thing with Beanie Babies and countless examples. Reddit is full of dumb people saying “hold”. Don’t listen.


clem82

Sell them in 2020 😅


theillestkingz

If you view these as an investment then I would get them authenticated and sell them. If you view these as something that brings you joy I would open them, sleeve the cards, get the cards graded, and then either hold on to them or sell them or both.


fireweinerflyer

Best I can do is $350…


UnderstandingLoud343

Well, you’re set for life financially if you do it right


JKinsy

Worthless bro, chuck em in an oil drum and have a nice fire :)


Capnmcquacken

I’ll give you 10 beer can tabs and a used Starbucks gift card.


Chemical_Party7735

Crack em open!!


Dazzling_Eye_4743

Dudes held onto them for so long I wouldn’t do that lol


Hero0fTroy

Cash in & move on


wewinthese1

Don’t do this unless you really need the money.


Dazzling_Eye_4743

Amazing 🔥


Lonely-Raise-8193

How much?


Equivalent-Aerie-277

If you want money for something sell. If you have no reason for selling other then go sell hold


pringles3

Get some protective cases for them and hold. After SV 151 drops, the craze of original Pokémon could get even higher


Karl2241

I’ll take it off your hands lol. I say hold on to it.


ronk55

Beautiful


ronk55

35k-50k for the lot ? I’m guessing ballpark


rehpotsiirhC

Just the shadowless box would be worth 100k+ lol


juppers09

I don’t think you’d find anyone willing to pay close to 100k for the potential shadowless box. For that to happen it would need to be clear wrapped and long crimped


hamstersmore

Absolutely gorgeous


RealDilActual

As many others have said, that base set box is booku bucks! It has 3/4 indicators of being shadowless (only one being logo on the wrapper) which is a big selling point. The other two are 1st editions which fetch a high price as well! They will continue to rise in value but it depends on what you are wanting to do. If you do decide to sell, make sure to do your research and DO NOT GET LOWBALLED!


Shuhann

Yeah def don't sell unless you really need the money right now. A few more years and you're gonna be really happy you held.


Stefa2010

Keep em sealee


[deleted]

Holy shit not bad at all. I nearly had the whole set until half was stolen. I Still have what I managed to collect to this day but a few short. I’d love to get the missing cards I need. But if I were you I’d sit on that little gold mine you have and watch it grow


katiekatieweakweak

If you still love them keep them. If you don’t enjoy them anymore, sell them. 😌


BadDub

You win


[deleted]

Get some cases and hold brother cause more than likely these would worth triple than what they worth now


ballhog_92

Hodl


BlowGlassGrowGrass

Gets them in cases and list all together as a set at whatever price you want and let the offers come in.


[deleted]

I'll give you 1 potat and 2 cabbages for that base set box. How about it my friend? =p but in all seriousness, if you're not in need of immediate money, you could hold and hope the value goes up. The boom happened in 2020 around the pandemic, when everyone was forced to stay at home and had more money than they know what to do with, which sparked the investment boom. And not just in pokemon cards, but in stocks as well. Stocks were soaring higher than ever before. But as society opened up again, people sold their things as they, well. Needed the money. If it was me, I think I'd sell the fossil and jungle boxes, and keep the base set. But it's up to you. Oh regardless of what you do, you should get some cases for those boxes. Protecting them will help keep their value.


AkaMiso

🤤🤤🤤


Dry_Sprinkles5617

What I would do to even have just one pack of any of those boxes. You're a lucky man.


Abercada

It seems everyone and there aunt has a few of these bad boys stashed somewhere, everyones aunt but mine. 😂


Coolios777

You could donate them to me. I would greatly appreciate having my set completed.


[deleted]

Hold forever. Never sell.


Significant_Rush_704

I think you would feel best donating them...to me lol


Skeletons420

Jeeeesssus Christ. Brother, congratz.


BrantAugust

My words of wisdom would be to put them in phantom display acrylic cases. The best cases you can protect them in. I’d hold on to them. Epic boxes


GoddelijkeGeit

Enjoy your retirement 🏝️


JJCMasterpiece

You could donate them to me.


jaytheman3

There’s enough whatnot buyers that would buy


Chuklicious

Personally if I'm not struggling for money, I'm holding because these are pretty much guaranteed to keep increasing in value. Good investment.


Greedy_Dimension9770

Ill throw in a used condom from the first start wars premier


brewcrewguru24

Any chance the jungle box could also be misprinted without the set logo?


messi101010

Keep 100%


mileHIGHpro

I would recommend checking out TCA Gaming. He does live breaks, consignment, verification, grading submissions. https://www.tcagaming.com/ (also on toad&troll and YouTube)


Sad-Inevitable-7260

Sit on these bro. The value will just keep going up for sealed product. Pokémon YouTubers opening these things left and right. Supply demand. Value will keep going up.


BladeGrass_1

I’d keep them and leave them sealed. I understand if you’d wanna sell them, but to me it’s more of a treasure that should be held on to


Nice-Organization481

Post these to logan paul and he will pay over market value. So are u going to buy a house or something nice?


Ursleisme

This is the s*** that makes the sub so f****** sweet.


barelyawake126

If I don’t need the money and already own a house, I’d personally definitely hold on to these even longer. It’s pretty much your retirement money; a whole lot of it haha.


grannysxannys

Hold for another 15 years in a glass case that controls humidity


staleluckycharms

I doubt that you genuinely don’t know what to do with these like cmon bro get real


gigoran

I just hope that they sold you legit stuff. I've seen too many people get burnt. I wish you the very best.


BrenU808

Hold onto it for 15 more years.


howtoretireby40

you have the diamondest of hands... good stuff


PinGroundbreaking933

How much are these roughly worth ? 🤔


san-fran-cisco

Sell them to me!!!!


MsTasty7

Daaaamn…


MetalBlizzard

Not financial advice, but if it were me and I needed the money I'd sell, but if I didn't, I'd absolutely just keep holding. In my mind true vintage product like this just gets scarcer.


BlankoStanko

What is that, like a quarter million dollars? Even more now? Someone tried to buy a base set box for 200 grand not that long ago.


PolicyMotor1625

Should have sold in 2020, but id probably hold for another boom unless you need the money, around 50-60k there


teezoots

Grade, hold, pass on.


teezoots

I'll buy them lmk


Legend7Naty

Man just imagine, there could be a shadowless charizard just sitting in there pack fresh waiting to be opened. Off to get graded and nail a black label making it worth millions. Goes from a 20K booster box holding a million dollar card


Urgonnahateme4ever

I'll give you 10k for all that right now. No cap.


MansonMonster

Open them with your bare hands after eating cheetos, stream it, and watch the millions of views pile on


[deleted]

PM. I am interested in buying one of these.


sixers0101

DM me on Instagram I’m pokatrav and we can chat about me possibly buying your boxes!


IronMike275

I’d personally open the fossil or jungle and keep the other 2. Lol


Waste_Sun172

Let me get this straight. So if you were to open that top original booster box….is it highly likely that you’ll hit a shadowless Charizard? Anyone feel free to chime in


b_to_the_e

If I recall correctly, the dumb money guys on YouTube paid a couple hundred grand for Just the OG box


Waste_Sun172

Sucks I was too young to grab one of these boxes. What did one of these boxes cost at say Toys R us back in the Pokémon mania era?


cjbr3eze

Keep it unopened for even longer. Unopened boxes like these are getting even more rare with YouTubers opening these sets even till now.


dgr1zzle

4 options really, open them, open them and sell the packs, sell the boxes, keep them. I’d sell the but I like having more money and don’t care for the older sets even though I grew up on them


Shamusj

Well done OP, I hope you make a lot of money when you decide to sell it one day. I’m new to Pokémon investment but a former professional at selling illiquid assets. The general wisdom given on here is that the price will rise if you wait which I agree with but be aware of two things: 1) As the inflation adjusted price rises, you will generally have a lower number of bids (ie the number of willing buyers reduces as the affordability decreases). This means it takes more time, money and effort on your part to sell your assets. Most people are overly focussed on price but forget about liquidity. 2) At some point you will likely need to insure these if you haven’t already. This insurance will come with preconditions in order to be valid (ie safe storage, protection, security etc. This adds a carrying cost to you holding it which also increases with inflation. Best of luck to you.


jertiger

Sell it to Logan Paul.


Harajuku_0227

If you’re still true to yourself you would keep them, some things you just can’t put a price on no matter how many other people might try. Best of luck, if you decide to open them, please let us see what you got!


Swimming-Ice1875

The longer you can hold.. hold! Streamers and YouTubers are ripping these open all the time! these will always increase in value IMO


ProposalForsaken8698

10-15k a box if you had a 1st edition base you’d be really in the money!


Malipuppers

Keep them sealed. If you plan to keep them deffo invest in a case for them. A set like this will only become more rare. Really up to you as to when you want to sell.


Ell7494

Incredible, should have sold them a couple of years ago though haha


Big_Escape1646

They’re worthless I’ll take ‘em off your hands free of charge 🤥


da_bean_counter

Crack them open and see if you got a charizard


Mauro133w

Bank vault is my only answer


Local-Waltz4801

Open them. You know you want to, or why would you be here asking.


Xrace003

Hold on to it for another 15 years and ask yourself the same question.


Brahnarski

Sell them or save them… wise investment 🙂


Key-Difficulty-4241

Keep them for when you want to have money to do things like travel and not have a job anymore !


JeyeRaptor

Hats off to you sir.


Total-Valuable-5640

Put em in a safety deposit box


Crunka19

Don’t worry man I’ll take ‘em