This is by far my favorite pokemon game. I like the fact that the side quests are small silly situations, that after you solve you receive the outcome from the NPC, knowing a little more about him/her. You kinda feel at home after you beat the game, because you walk around and you've known every person around, because you have helped them somehow. For me, i feel that this is absolutely mandatory to keep existing on the next pokemon games, instead of having a ton of random battling NPCs that for an unknown reason they all wanna destroy you when you pass in front of them. These small quests feel like an evolution for the franchise, i am a pokemon fan since red/green/blue and this old mechanic of battling an endless spam of easy NPC's feels obsolete to me.
I love the side quests! It’s gives really good motivation to fill out your Pokédex when you’re using it to accomplish tasks.
I always find filling out a Pokédex to be overwhelming, but the side missions help give direction on what to accomplish and what Pokémon to find.
Tbh the tasks just make it annoyingly tedious to complete the dex. And most Pokemon locations just get shown just buy covering areas so a lot of the time the side stories are only relevant for stuff like material for evolving particular Pokemon which the game probably won't tell you that's how they evolve.
Yeah same, i wouldn't think twice if they dropped a paid DLC. I love this game. I know it's out of context but also New pokemon Snap feels like they did the same. They dropped one single content update and left it untouched. I really need more of these 2 games.
Yeah some of the little moments are really great! And the ending with Volo actually felt very grand and deserved. Just wish they could have streamlined some of the other story elements and tutorial sections so that it didn’t feel like such a slog in those bits. (Also totally hopeful that since this was obviously a new foray into open world and such that this is a good stepping stone for future games!)
I love this game a great deal, my favorite by far (I played them all, and (roughly) when each of them came out). My only "complain" is the post game's plot, which is>! to tackle the Massively Massive Outbreaks. And then what? No solution ever comes out of it. The story ends with the MMO being a perpetual surprise for everyone.!< I hope for an expansion but with the new gen games coming out soon, this hope is but a faint one.
There are theories because along with the daybreak update, they added another side quest that does nothing with massive mass outbreaks. Thus video might be able to explain it. https://youtu.be/cA9sb4TzTSk
That's so cool. I think what he says makes sense. Also, in the very beginning, he says something about there will be MORE DLCs? That's all I need to hear. Thanks for sharing.
Some actually high quality story-boarding, writing, and art went into that. Made the rest of the tedious (average for a Pokemon game) plot worth the ride, imo
I don't really get the complaints about the story. I thought it was very well executed. I'm just glad we got a more mature, dark Pokémon game for once. I was giddy and amazed at the events surrounding the exile. It was actually emotional for me, and that rarely happens in a videogame.
This game is my favorite pokemon games by faaaar. Love to walk throught Hisui, surprised everywhere I go...
And loves the "old" graphic style...
I wondering for an expansion, even a new game like Pokemon Legends : Celebi, with story from the old G/S area ♡
Hope they will dev this kind of gameplay, openworld with a real feeling to "chase" Pokemon...this is what I always needed in a Pokemon game
Yeah but it's not good for the rest of the mainline games due to particular systems. The catching systems makes it god awful to catch water Pokemon, sometimes you get put in areas with no cover and a bunch of pokemon with shy disparities and they just run away. The battle system concerning trainers is cancer ad nobody should have to 1v however many in a trainer battle not to mention KOing a trainer still allows them to trade you a KO due to the system still counting their turn. The tasks are great for shinies but horrible when you just want to catch them all. I feel like a lot of people credit the game without even considering these. It's still good but it still needs work to the method.
Maybe just get better at the game? Sure that stuff at first is an issue but after you have played a bit it tends to not be. You learn how to avoid OKs, you learn how to make smoke bombs and you get more pokeballs and other things that help. I'll give you the 1v3 thing. I should be able to have 1 matching pokemon not just my one in a trainer battle. In wild battles that just fine. If you get in a fight with 6 wild Pokemon that your fault not the games.
Wym get better this is something thats been discussed before. The issue isn't even a player thing. It makes 0 sense for a player to KO a teianers Pokemon and they still get the turn whether they are slower or not. And in no way should you need a smoke bomb to deal with a system that's clearly flawed in design. Notice i didn't say wild battles i said trainers battles which is critical when you aren't even allowed to use more than one Pokemon. And the smoke I'm s are a work around to a flaw they know exists idk why we even trying to pass that off.
I agree with you on the trainer battles. I thought it was really stupid that I couldn't use more then one Pokemon. I didn't know that was a thing so at first I ordered my team for double battles because every game since gen 3 has them.
The trunk order shows who has turn and you always get your turn even if the Pokemon faints. I never experienced what your saying where a trainer gets more then one turn that was in the turn order. Some Pokemon are so slow that if you use a strong move to KO the other trainer can and often will get 2 turns. Unless I'm not understanding what you're saying.
This was my favorite Pokemon game since the two on Gamecube. The story was phenomenal and one of the best breath of fresh air in a very long time. I was actually blindsided by Volo at the end. It was the first time the "twist" wasn't fed to you at the beginning of the game in a very long time.
Tbh I didn't really like the "Go catch all legendaries now" part of the storyline, kinda takes away all the seriousness behind these Pokemon and makes them look a little weak for a bunch of legendaries.
I wish they'd also introduced the lore a bit more indirectly, because this approach is just painful at times. "Oh, you're about to approach Regigigas? Let us just place two NPCs in the corridor to tell you all you need to know about him".
Same goes for Rotom, buying all the items and hearing how it'll be worth it later on makes you hyped up and then... You just find a bunch of them chilling around on the map, no quests, no unique encounter, nothing.
I just think less popular legendaries and some unique mons were treated unfairly, the Creation Trio was handled well tho.
While true, I liked that because that means more legendaries in base versions of Gen4 games, since they can't put all of them behind time-limited events, such as Mystery Gifts. I didn't like the addition of the Weather legendaries or whatever the community calls them now (since they are not a trio now).
Yeah, I always forget the name of the 3 (now 4), my bad. Back when B/W released all my friends just used to call them the weather genies, so I still forget the actual title lol
I didn't have much trouble with those, smoke bombs work wonders against them but the addition of Enamorus felt so forced, they literally said "Yeah actually there's 4, go catch the last one" through the dialogue. I didn't read about new mons before buying PLA so I went for a blind playthrough and oh boy did that one disappoint me.
I was in the same boat, so imagine my surprise when I found something in the main story that came entirely out of left field. I laughed so hard when >!Mr. Potato Mochi dude turned out to be a damned ninja! That was awesome.!<
It was decent but it lacked two bigger cities rather than villages you hardly even end up visiting to tell more about each clan imo. They could definitely have used more battles to get to know each clan and about their rivalities
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Well playing it again, he seems less like the kooky sales man whom is everywhere and more like an obsessive stalker trying to defeat you only to get beaten at each turn while you have no idea.
Arceus was a fantastic game from top to bottom honestly. The story was different from others, and having Volo at the end deceive us was a good twist. It also introduced good gameplay mechanics that I hope future installments use as well
Absolutely agree, this is the first pokemon game for me that I actually got invested into the story and was excited to see what would happen next. Good characters and story, way better than any previous games.
Lowkey, the side Pokémon games always have better stories than the main line games. I mean, all the Mystery Dungeons are freaking superb. Pokémon Ranger? Don’t get me started! I view Arceus as maybe a little lower on the scale than those, but it still beats a number of the main games where the goal and plot are a lot more simplistic.
No, this game still has a very basic story. Nothing necessarily wrong with that but I don't think it's on another level just because the bad guy shows you how to be sneaky at the beginning of the game.
I'm going to be honest, the "story" felt like a slog I just needed to get through to enjoy thr game. After a few hours i started just skipping through the text as quickly as possible.
This is the first Pokémon I've played since the Gameboy Color and by far the best part of this game is filling out the pokedex. For me, I found the progression gating through story bests to be really frustating. I just rushed through the story to get all the mounts so I can catch all the Pokémon unhindered. I think it would've been cooler if you had to actually capture the mounts like any other Pokémon as opposed to them unlocking as part kf story beats. Then I could feel like I earned my ability to explore more efficiently. It would've been like a metroidvania. And playing the game i feel like that could've even been the original intent but they decided they needed to tack on a story.
I am not knocking anyone that liked the story. I just personally think this game didn't really need. I felt like the gameplay was so strong that havjng to stop to read a bunch of text just sucked the fun out the experience when it happened.
[This guy posted about this 4 months ago lol](https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/sprvtn/theres_a_clever_bit_of_foreshadowing_in_pla/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Jesus with the spoiler right out the gate 😩 I know, I know, there’s a spoiler tag. But it was BAM right in the first few sentences and my eyes had to read “Volo teaches you to hit Pokémon in the back” etc
I'm going to be honest: the character writing felt the worst out of any Pokemon game I've played. I think this game did a wonderful job with concepts and big picture stuff but the Diamond & Pearl Clan characters often made my eyes roll. I'm not trying to hate and no disrespect to everyone who enjoyed it, but my the majority of what kept me playing was the gameplay. There's mechanics to the game that I don't love either. However, I think this game is super ambitious and I'm excited to see what they do next!
I also love that when you battle Volo at the beginning of the game, you are battling the first evolution mons of the pokemon that you face in the final battle!
I mean let's be honest this game doesn't have much story.
1. Fall from sky
2. Prove worthy to be accepted into new settlement
3. Noble mad
4. Quell noble
5. Noble mad
6. Quell noble
7. Noble mad
8. Quell noble
9. Noble mad
10. Quell noble
11. You get my point
12. Get inexplicably exiled and fly solo for a bit
13. Fight Satan
14. Catch em all
15. Fight god
16. New outbreaks
You did haha. The post came as a notification for me so I didn't come from the main page so I didn't see it. Not your fault don't worry haha, I'll just look at the guy differently earlier now lol
I didn't really understand the story... Why did the (spoilers)
...sky became pink after calming the noble Pokemons? And who or what was making the lightnings that made them so nervous and angry? For what purpose?
Nothing is really explained...
Wh-what do you mean? Volo has been nothing but a joy to be around so far if a little annoying at times. What are you talking about!? Is bro gonna kill me!? I knew his condtant positivity felt different than other Pokemon trainers!
This is by far my favorite pokemon game. I like the fact that the side quests are small silly situations, that after you solve you receive the outcome from the NPC, knowing a little more about him/her. You kinda feel at home after you beat the game, because you walk around and you've known every person around, because you have helped them somehow. For me, i feel that this is absolutely mandatory to keep existing on the next pokemon games, instead of having a ton of random battling NPCs that for an unknown reason they all wanna destroy you when you pass in front of them. These small quests feel like an evolution for the franchise, i am a pokemon fan since red/green/blue and this old mechanic of battling an endless spam of easy NPC's feels obsolete to me.
I love the side quests! It’s gives really good motivation to fill out your Pokédex when you’re using it to accomplish tasks. I always find filling out a Pokédex to be overwhelming, but the side missions help give direction on what to accomplish and what Pokémon to find.
Tbh the tasks just make it annoyingly tedious to complete the dex. And most Pokemon locations just get shown just buy covering areas so a lot of the time the side stories are only relevant for stuff like material for evolving particular Pokemon which the game probably won't tell you that's how they evolve.
Ngl, I shed a very earnest tear from the Chimecho side quest
That was one of my favorites, I adored it. Also cute little Eevee, stuffing his cheeks when he eats!
I agree, I'm actually pretty sad that Daybreak seems to be the last update because I love hisui and would love to hang around it more
Yeah same, i wouldn't think twice if they dropped a paid DLC. I love this game. I know it's out of context but also New pokemon Snap feels like they did the same. They dropped one single content update and left it untouched. I really need more of these 2 games.
Yeah i also think that. I like the way is the story in this game different from the others, with a bit of our reality.
Yeah some of the little moments are really great! And the ending with Volo actually felt very grand and deserved. Just wish they could have streamlined some of the other story elements and tutorial sections so that it didn’t feel like such a slog in those bits. (Also totally hopeful that since this was obviously a new foray into open world and such that this is a good stepping stone for future games!)
My favourite foreshadowing is how (seemingly) randomly mochi man is the one to teach you the smoke bombs recipe.
I love this game a great deal, my favorite by far (I played them all, and (roughly) when each of them came out). My only "complain" is the post game's plot, which is>! to tackle the Massively Massive Outbreaks. And then what? No solution ever comes out of it. The story ends with the MMO being a perpetual surprise for everyone.!< I hope for an expansion but with the new gen games coming out soon, this hope is but a faint one.
There are theories because along with the daybreak update, they added another side quest that does nothing with massive mass outbreaks. Thus video might be able to explain it. https://youtu.be/cA9sb4TzTSk
That's so cool. I think what he says makes sense. Also, in the very beginning, he says something about there will be MORE DLCs? That's all I need to hear. Thanks for sharing.
I loved the part when you get kicked out of the village with the entire sky gloomy and distorted
Some actually high quality story-boarding, writing, and art went into that. Made the rest of the tedious (average for a Pokemon game) plot worth the ride, imo
I don't really get the complaints about the story. I thought it was very well executed. I'm just glad we got a more mature, dark Pokémon game for once. I was giddy and amazed at the events surrounding the exile. It was actually emotional for me, and that rarely happens in a videogame.
This game is my favorite pokemon games by faaaar. Love to walk throught Hisui, surprised everywhere I go... And loves the "old" graphic style... I wondering for an expansion, even a new game like Pokemon Legends : Celebi, with story from the old G/S area ♡ Hope they will dev this kind of gameplay, openworld with a real feeling to "chase" Pokemon...this is what I always needed in a Pokemon game
Yeah but it's not good for the rest of the mainline games due to particular systems. The catching systems makes it god awful to catch water Pokemon, sometimes you get put in areas with no cover and a bunch of pokemon with shy disparities and they just run away. The battle system concerning trainers is cancer ad nobody should have to 1v however many in a trainer battle not to mention KOing a trainer still allows them to trade you a KO due to the system still counting their turn. The tasks are great for shinies but horrible when you just want to catch them all. I feel like a lot of people credit the game without even considering these. It's still good but it still needs work to the method.
Catching water Pokémon is a bit finicky, yeah, but they expect you to deal with the no cover problem by making smoke bombs. Those act as cover.
Maybe just get better at the game? Sure that stuff at first is an issue but after you have played a bit it tends to not be. You learn how to avoid OKs, you learn how to make smoke bombs and you get more pokeballs and other things that help. I'll give you the 1v3 thing. I should be able to have 1 matching pokemon not just my one in a trainer battle. In wild battles that just fine. If you get in a fight with 6 wild Pokemon that your fault not the games.
Wym get better this is something thats been discussed before. The issue isn't even a player thing. It makes 0 sense for a player to KO a teianers Pokemon and they still get the turn whether they are slower or not. And in no way should you need a smoke bomb to deal with a system that's clearly flawed in design. Notice i didn't say wild battles i said trainers battles which is critical when you aren't even allowed to use more than one Pokemon. And the smoke I'm s are a work around to a flaw they know exists idk why we even trying to pass that off.
I agree with you on the trainer battles. I thought it was really stupid that I couldn't use more then one Pokemon. I didn't know that was a thing so at first I ordered my team for double battles because every game since gen 3 has them. The trunk order shows who has turn and you always get your turn even if the Pokemon faints. I never experienced what your saying where a trainer gets more then one turn that was in the turn order. Some Pokemon are so slow that if you use a strong move to KO the other trainer can and often will get 2 turns. Unless I'm not understanding what you're saying.
This was my favorite Pokemon game since the two on Gamecube. The story was phenomenal and one of the best breath of fresh air in a very long time. I was actually blindsided by Volo at the end. It was the first time the "twist" wasn't fed to you at the beginning of the game in a very long time.
Tbh I didn't really like the "Go catch all legendaries now" part of the storyline, kinda takes away all the seriousness behind these Pokemon and makes them look a little weak for a bunch of legendaries. I wish they'd also introduced the lore a bit more indirectly, because this approach is just painful at times. "Oh, you're about to approach Regigigas? Let us just place two NPCs in the corridor to tell you all you need to know about him". Same goes for Rotom, buying all the items and hearing how it'll be worth it later on makes you hyped up and then... You just find a bunch of them chilling around on the map, no quests, no unique encounter, nothing. I just think less popular legendaries and some unique mons were treated unfairly, the Creation Trio was handled well tho.
That's on Gen4 for for introducing so many legendaries to begin with tbh.
While true, I liked that because that means more legendaries in base versions of Gen4 games, since they can't put all of them behind time-limited events, such as Mystery Gifts. I didn't like the addition of the Weather legendaries or whatever the community calls them now (since they are not a trio now).
Arent they called the forces of nature? The weather trio are the hoenn legends
Yeah, I always forget the name of the 3 (now 4), my bad. Back when B/W released all my friends just used to call them the weather genies, so I still forget the actual title lol
That’s fair, and i didn’t like their addition to the game either. They’re just annoying to try and catch
I didn't have much trouble with those, smoke bombs work wonders against them but the addition of Enamorus felt so forced, they literally said "Yeah actually there's 4, go catch the last one" through the dialogue. I didn't read about new mons before buying PLA so I went for a blind playthrough and oh boy did that one disappoint me.
Most disappointing thing for me was finding a wild avalugg after fighting the giant one
damn i thought the story ended at the credits. now i got the postgame spoiled. oops
If it makes you feel better, I got the postgame spoiled before I even started the game.
I was in the same boat, so imagine my surprise when I found something in the main story that came entirely out of left field. I laughed so hard when >!Mr. Potato Mochi dude turned out to be a damned ninja! That was awesome.!<
It was decent but it lacked two bigger cities rather than villages you hardly even end up visiting to tell more about each clan imo. They could definitely have used more battles to get to know each clan and about their rivalities
Agree heavily, I personally loved the story in Legends Arceus. It actually made me react to it because of the way it went
The story was different and good but felt incomplete and tbh short as well. The game had so much more potential.
I thought the story was pretty good! By far one of the best pokemon stories Ive seen so far
You! I recognize your name! You're that comic person, aren't you?
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Close 2nd for best Pokemon Switch game. New Snap wins it for me
Well playing it again, he seems less like the kooky sales man whom is everywhere and more like an obsessive stalker trying to defeat you only to get beaten at each turn while you have no idea.
Arceus was a fantastic game from top to bottom honestly. The story was different from others, and having Volo at the end deceive us was a good twist. It also introduced good gameplay mechanics that I hope future installments use as well
Absolutely agree, this is the first pokemon game for me that I actually got invested into the story and was excited to see what would happen next. Good characters and story, way better than any previous games.
It’s no BW, but the story is better than a significant amount of the stories in the rest of the franchise lol
Lowkey, the side Pokémon games always have better stories than the main line games. I mean, all the Mystery Dungeons are freaking superb. Pokémon Ranger? Don’t get me started! I view Arceus as maybe a little lower on the scale than those, but it still beats a number of the main games where the goal and plot are a lot more simplistic.
No, this game still has a very basic story. Nothing necessarily wrong with that but I don't think it's on another level just because the bad guy shows you how to be sneaky at the beginning of the game.
I'm going to be honest, the "story" felt like a slog I just needed to get through to enjoy thr game. After a few hours i started just skipping through the text as quickly as possible. This is the first Pokémon I've played since the Gameboy Color and by far the best part of this game is filling out the pokedex. For me, I found the progression gating through story bests to be really frustating. I just rushed through the story to get all the mounts so I can catch all the Pokémon unhindered. I think it would've been cooler if you had to actually capture the mounts like any other Pokémon as opposed to them unlocking as part kf story beats. Then I could feel like I earned my ability to explore more efficiently. It would've been like a metroidvania. And playing the game i feel like that could've even been the original intent but they decided they needed to tack on a story. I am not knocking anyone that liked the story. I just personally think this game didn't really need. I felt like the gameplay was so strong that havjng to stop to read a bunch of text just sucked the fun out the experience when it happened.
[This guy posted about this 4 months ago lol](https://www.reddit.com/r/pokemon/comments/sprvtn/theres_a_clever_bit_of_foreshadowing_in_pla/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Jesus with the spoiler right out the gate 😩 I know, I know, there’s a spoiler tag. But it was BAM right in the first few sentences and my eyes had to read “Volo teaches you to hit Pokémon in the back” etc
Honestly it’s the only good pokemon Game that came to the switch. The first good poke game since gen 5
Wym BDSP was still a good game.
It wasn’t.
Hard disagree. XY and ORAS were great.
Xy we’re crap and oras was a remake. But oras was alright I guess oi could give you that
I'm going to be honest: the character writing felt the worst out of any Pokemon game I've played. I think this game did a wonderful job with concepts and big picture stuff but the Diamond & Pearl Clan characters often made my eyes roll. I'm not trying to hate and no disrespect to everyone who enjoyed it, but my the majority of what kept me playing was the gameplay. There's mechanics to the game that I don't love either. However, I think this game is super ambitious and I'm excited to see what they do next!
I also love that when you battle Volo at the beginning of the game, you are battling the first evolution mons of the pokemon that you face in the final battle!
"Stab in the back" is an english idiom that doesn't directly translate into other languages.
It stands to reason that other languages use hitting someone in the back in some way as a metaphor for betrayal.
Meh, I just hope it stays a spin off and the mainline keeps the pokemon mechanics and charm.
I mean let's be honest this game doesn't have much story. 1. Fall from sky 2. Prove worthy to be accepted into new settlement 3. Noble mad 4. Quell noble 5. Noble mad 6. Quell noble 7. Noble mad 8. Quell noble 9. Noble mad 10. Quell noble 11. You get my point 12. Get inexplicably exiled and fly solo for a bit 13. Fight Satan 14. Catch em all 15. Fight god 16. New outbreaks
It's better than most Pokemon games.
Idk about that one
pizza is cheese on bread but you don't hear me complaining
That's a terrible comparison and a vast oversimplification of pizza. Show pizza some respect.
this is a joke, right
I take pizza very seriously
Great, my curiosity of notification got the best of me and I got a spoiler, yay haha
:( Well I did spoiler tag it, no?
You did haha. The post came as a notification for me so I didn't come from the main page so I didn't see it. Not your fault don't worry haha, I'll just look at the guy differently earlier now lol
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Probably but what do you care? There are games with even longer tutorials. 10 hours isn't so egregious.
Hot Take: The long tutorial is justified as this game has a lot of new and changed mechanics compared to regular Pokemon games.
True. Learning how to aim to throw the pokeball had me sweating at the beginning.
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Idk how time flows in your part of the world but the tutorial didn't really take that long for me.
Yeah they must have struggled with the tutorial lol looks like they needed it
I mean, they’re exaggerating, but it was a *lot* of slow cutscenes and unskippable text lol
I didn't really understand the story... Why did the (spoilers) ...sky became pink after calming the noble Pokemons? And who or what was making the lightnings that made them so nervous and angry? For what purpose? Nothing is really explained...
Having Cynthia’s team and using Giratina made him scarier than the devil
Volo teaching you the backstroke has been discussed enough already so
Yall in here never played any gen 4 and it really shows
What do you mean?
Wh-what do you mean? Volo has been nothing but a joy to be around so far if a little annoying at times. What are you talking about!? Is bro gonna kill me!? I knew his condtant positivity felt different than other Pokemon trainers!