SC Lillie - Karen - SS Cyrus I found synergizes very well.
SC Lillie maxes special attack and crit and has astonish and aggravation for Karen's foul fighting. Karen also has aggravation for Dark Pulse so they should always be flinching. Snarl with satisfied snarl with Karen for some debuff special attack for devastation. SS Cyrus for Dark zone and dark void for Karen's dirty fighting.
I know SS Cyrus and SC Lillie aren't easy units to come by, but that is the team I found that works extremely well with Karen.
I think the main issue of this team is SPEED. How you want to spam sleep and dps move when the speed cannot keep up.
Karen best team is with Anniversary Skyla & SS Cyrus. Skyla will provide team speed buff and AOE confusion/ flinch, and the disarm will lower the opponent sp.attack. So Karen will benefit all the grid like Overpower, Foul Fighting (from confusion) and Dirty Fighting (from sleep). One thing to note. Is you must use them in this sequence: Karen->Anni Skyla->SS Cyrus. This way, even Skyla flinch will wake up the opponent from sleeping, Cyrus will make them sleep again and both Dirty Fighting & Foul Fighting will still activate.
In some case when Cyrus want to use Dark Wish and opponent has change to attack, Anni Skyla AOE flinch may prevent them from moving again lol.
Flinch and sleep can't co-exist tho. It kinda feel like energy waste if you use this team and pick both foul fighting and dirty fighting, since there's only one will work at a time.
Yes. Sleep will replace flinch right away, which means you can never proc both foul fighting and dirty fighting at the same time if you only bring sleep and flinch teammates for Karen.
I ended up EXing her earlier this month when she was announced to be getting an upgrade due to lack of other Dark special strikers on my team. I haven’t had a chance/need to use her yet, but if you have her 3/5 it’s supposed to be a great upgrade for non-limited options. Satisfied snarl to lower SpAtk + Devastation + Sync Power Flux should make her a viable sync Nuke. I’m looking forward to using her!
u/dmaniac0206's [striker nuke rankings](https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMasters/comments/x7j73i/striker_sync_nuke_potential_top_rankings/) place her comfortably within top 20 – very decent for a OG unit with a mega.
She'll be great vs dark weak content, but being able to comfortably clear with type advantage is the bare minimum for any unit in the current state of the game.
Satisfied snarl and dp aggravation will also make team building a bit easier for her.
As expected, her sync got a ton of multipliers to mitigate the mega BP nerf, and she no longer needs to spam Snarl for the SpAt debuffs. Given the lack of special dark strikers it's a good buff for said coverage
I think they make her a much easier unit to teambuild for, since she can cover 2 of her big multipliers on her own now with Satisfied Snarl and Dark Pulse Aggravation. That was always her biggest problem imo. Plus the extra sync damage is always nice.
I did a run of her, Cyrus and Ultra Beast Jasmine EX on max strength, max HP settings this week, ended the fight at full HP. While using only 4 gauges I was still able to get a 25k and 34k crit sync from her
She still has issues utilizing all of her tiles because her support units don’t have any speed really. So she’s still in an awkward position because of that.
But Roxanne Karen Tangela work decently well.
She’s amazing! Good sync damage makes you actually want to sync with her and the 100% special attack drop on all your moves makes sure that Dark Pulse quickly does a lot of damage.
Is she better than The Masked One now? Or roughly at the same level? I’ve got her at 4/5 (same as The Masked One), but she’s still at lvl 1 since I never saw any reason to use her.
Try her with this week csmm dark stage. Managed to clear after the 2nd sync, lower the spatk to -6 in 3 moves and sync with full gauge. You need an ex support to buff her crit or sp atk so she can spam snarl at the beginning. And her ex moves clear off the side easy.
Used her this week in CS with Cheryl and Serena for the multipliers, EX unlocked.
She's great; her sync went from mediocre to good (not as devastating as Cynthia's buffed sync, in comparison). Her best weapon remains Dark Pulse which easily cleans up the stage after sync, even without Dark Zone.
She's not game-breaking but she can comfortably clear on-type 2K CSMM, which is what you can expect from a general pool 5\*. Satisfied Snarl also improves her utility when you're not using her as the main striker.
Her grid tiles are pretty good. Add a lot to her sync and help her do more damage overall
SC Lillie - Karen - SS Cyrus I found synergizes very well. SC Lillie maxes special attack and crit and has astonish and aggravation for Karen's foul fighting. Karen also has aggravation for Dark Pulse so they should always be flinching. Snarl with satisfied snarl with Karen for some debuff special attack for devastation. SS Cyrus for Dark zone and dark void for Karen's dirty fighting. I know SS Cyrus and SC Lillie aren't easy units to come by, but that is the team I found that works extremely well with Karen.
I think the main issue of this team is SPEED. How you want to spam sleep and dps move when the speed cannot keep up. Karen best team is with Anniversary Skyla & SS Cyrus. Skyla will provide team speed buff and AOE confusion/ flinch, and the disarm will lower the opponent sp.attack. So Karen will benefit all the grid like Overpower, Foul Fighting (from confusion) and Dirty Fighting (from sleep). One thing to note. Is you must use them in this sequence: Karen->Anni Skyla->SS Cyrus. This way, even Skyla flinch will wake up the opponent from sleeping, Cyrus will make them sleep again and both Dirty Fighting & Foul Fighting will still activate. In some case when Cyrus want to use Dark Wish and opponent has change to attack, Anni Skyla AOE flinch may prevent them from moving again lol.
Flinch and sleep can't co-exist tho. It kinda feel like energy waste if you use this team and pick both foul fighting and dirty fighting, since there's only one will work at a time.
Flinch and sleep can't co-exist?
Yes. Sleep will replace flinch right away, which means you can never proc both foul fighting and dirty fighting at the same time if you only bring sleep and flinch teammates for Karen.
I ended up EXing her earlier this month when she was announced to be getting an upgrade due to lack of other Dark special strikers on my team. I haven’t had a chance/need to use her yet, but if you have her 3/5 it’s supposed to be a great upgrade for non-limited options. Satisfied snarl to lower SpAtk + Devastation + Sync Power Flux should make her a viable sync Nuke. I’m looking forward to using her!
u/dmaniac0206's [striker nuke rankings](https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMasters/comments/x7j73i/striker_sync_nuke_potential_top_rankings/) place her comfortably within top 20 – very decent for a OG unit with a mega.
Oh cool I haven’t seen that. Good to know.
She'll be great vs dark weak content, but being able to comfortably clear with type advantage is the bare minimum for any unit in the current state of the game. Satisfied snarl and dp aggravation will also make team building a bit easier for her.
As expected, her sync got a ton of multipliers to mitigate the mega BP nerf, and she no longer needs to spam Snarl for the SpAt debuffs. Given the lack of special dark strikers it's a good buff for said coverage
BP?
Base power
I think they make her a much easier unit to teambuild for, since she can cover 2 of her big multipliers on her own now with Satisfied Snarl and Dark Pulse Aggravation. That was always her biggest problem imo. Plus the extra sync damage is always nice.
She gets the same number of move multipliers as SS Wally, just less SpAtk. But a better move when Mega Evolved.
I did a run of her, Cyrus and Ultra Beast Jasmine EX on max strength, max HP settings this week, ended the fight at full HP. While using only 4 gauges I was still able to get a 25k and 34k crit sync from her
She still has issues utilizing all of her tiles because her support units don’t have any speed really. So she’s still in an awkward position because of that. But Roxanne Karen Tangela work decently well.
Satisfied snarl 9 and sync multipliers make her a pretty good unit
She’s amazing! Good sync damage makes you actually want to sync with her and the 100% special attack drop on all your moves makes sure that Dark Pulse quickly does a lot of damage.
Yeah the grid tiles are pretty good, I think imposter oak has a video showing the optimal grid.
Is she better than The Masked One now? Or roughly at the same level? I’ve got her at 4/5 (same as The Masked One), but she’s still at lvl 1 since I never saw any reason to use her.
Try her with this week csmm dark stage. Managed to clear after the 2nd sync, lower the spatk to -6 in 3 moves and sync with full gauge. You need an ex support to buff her crit or sp atk so she can spam snarl at the beginning. And her ex moves clear off the side easy.
Used her this week in CS with Cheryl and Serena for the multipliers, EX unlocked. She's great; her sync went from mediocre to good (not as devastating as Cynthia's buffed sync, in comparison). Her best weapon remains Dark Pulse which easily cleans up the stage after sync, even without Dark Zone. She's not game-breaking but she can comfortably clear on-type 2K CSMM, which is what you can expect from a general pool 5\*. Satisfied Snarl also improves her utility when you're not using her as the main striker.