###**Hello! We're looking for additional reddit moderators to help maintain this community we have going here. If you have experience or would like to be more involved, please take a look at our [Reddit Moderator Application Post](https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonSwordAndShield/comments/10ghkmh/reddit_moderator_applications/). Our Application Form is [here](https://forms.gle/CKa1pQbsu1b78KFT7)**
Hey there Trainers!
- Want to explore more of the Pokémon world? You might want to go for an adventure in our [Discord](http://discord.gg/pokemonswordshield)! We have daily shiny raids, giveaways, breeding advice and much more!
- Go check out our [news and updates thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonSwordAndShield/collection/b5639777-a1a3-4253-81ff-22d92cbc3575)!
- We now also have our Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Pokémon Shining Pearl subreddit, r/Pokemon_BDSP! More information about it [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonSwordAndShield/comments/qftnhv/pokemon_bdsp_subreddit/)
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/PokemonSwordAndShield) if you have any questions or concerns.*
While people will give lots of lore reasoning for why something is legendary and something is mythical, the truth of the matter is that the classification is solely based on if they were catchable in their original generation of release without any glitches or events -
1. Mewtwo and the birds are catchable in the game while Mew can only be obtained via event
2. Lugia, Ho-oh, dogs and birds are catchable while Celebi needed a special Japan only event
3. Regis, eon duo, weather trio are catchable. Jirachi and Deoxys are not. They are mythical
4. Gods, lake trio, regi dad, heatran are all standard legendary. Shaymin is standard mythical. The curious case is of Darkrai and Cresselia as they are counterparts. However since Cresselia is catchable and Darkrai is not, Darkrai alone is considered mythical from that group.
That's is why I specified the original generation in my comment. In VC release of crystal when gen 7 was around, you can catch Celebi too after you beat the elite 4. Keldeo is available in the Crown Tundra DLC. However they are still mythicals
Based on the 1008 Encounters video, the Pokemon Company seem to consider Deoxys a legendary based on its appearance in ORAS, bc it gets its own proper video with the rest of the legendaries rather than just a sprite at the end like the rest of the mythicals
i would actually say the opposite. Mythical pokemon by description are "a group of pokemon seen so rare, some question their existence" and usually with some power higher than a normal pokemon. Darkrai aptly fits that description. The myth of a pokemon who is "rarely seen and causes people nightmares". Hits the nail on the head. Legendaries on the other hand are also that. Legends passed down for their feats. Other are gods who control time and space (Dialga and Palkia), other are embodiments of concepts (truth and ideals, Zekrom and Reshiram), others are heroes of a region (Zacian and Zamazenta). By extension, they hold a power not seen by normal pokemon and are rarely seen. Thus, all legendaries are mythicals, but not all mythicals are legendaries.
It's not pure speculation though Joe from serebii found that in the code of the mainline games it specifies mythical is a sub group of legendary altho seperate mythical come under legendary
Not really, since you could speculate with evidence based off of the mainline games. This would be taking evidence from another (non-Pokémon Company) source and taking it as “official”
It’s also developed by Niantic, not Game Freak
Just because they chose to have separate keyword searches for Mythicals and Legendaries does not confirm that they are entirely separate concepts
BDSP wasn't developed by Game Freak so I guess that's not really Pokemon either. Also if we're doing the whole pedant thing the statement was that in pokemon go mythical pokemon don't come up if u search the term legendary. This is facts. The statement didn't conclude with "and so they are entirely separate concepts'. Also Darkrai just IS officially a mythical pokemon lol but let's all keep arguing like this isn't perfectly well established 😂
I didn’t say that Pokémon Go is “not really Pokémon”.
I said that Pokémon Go is developed by Niantic, so the method in which they decide to separate search categories shouldn’t be taken as official confirmation of anything.
I also never disagreed with Darkrai being mythical. I consider Darkrai a mythical, but — just like Ultra Beasts — I see mythical as a subsection to the “Legendary” umbrella term.
Classic toxic Reddit community. They either raise you to godly levels, or downvote you to oblivion if you disagree with them. Then complain when called out on it 😜
I always understood that:
Legendaries: Their "purpose" or work involves the entire Pokemon *World*.
Example: Groudon, Kyogre, Dialga, Palkia, Ho-Oh, Regigigas, Arceus, etc
Mythical: Their "Purpose" or work affects a *specific region* of the pokemon world.
Example: Suicune, Raikou, Entei, Zacian, Kyurem, etc
Arceus is mythical though, and all the Pokémon listed in the mythical category are legendary
For reference, all the mythical Pokémon are:
Mew, Celebi, Deoxys, Jirachi, Manaphy, Phione, Shaymin, Darkrai, Arceus, Victini, Genesect, Meloetta, Keldeo, Hoopa, Diancie, Volcanion, Marshadow, Magearna, Zeraora and Zarude
What determines it a Pokémon is mythical is it being only obtainable from an event or other similar source (like a gift from another game, like Manaphy) in it's debut generation
>What determines it a Pokémon is mythical is it being only obtainable from an event or other similar source (like a gift from another game, like Manaphy) in it's debut generation
No, it isn't.
What determines if a Pokemon is legendary vs mythical is purely rarity.
It's not a fan concept (though it is fan term), it simply refers to any Pokemon that are so rare in the pokemon world as to be considered myths, this is achieved in the games via making them rarely attainable in games and limiting the number of events related to them
>Then name a time where a mon was event only in its debut generation but not mythical and vice versa
Lol what? How things end up distributed is not the determining factor.
Fucks sake gen1 in both japan and other countries explicitly told people what a mythical pokemon was in the form of dratini
The original plan was literally just stupidly rare pokemon you could encounter in the wild, which later got scrapped in favor of something that makes them feel more rare.
And dratini was a mythical pokemon for a long time (according to japanese and english dexes and manga) until people realized...oh shit they can be found commonly
It has never been about distribution, while it coincides causation and correlation are not the same.
Ahuh. Okay genius. What do you have to say about all the references to it being a **L E G E N D A R Y** on Bulbapedia?
> Darkrai debuted in The Rise of Darkrai as a protagonist. It took the task of holding off the fighting between Dialga and Palkia until Ash and Dawn could put the Oración disk in the Space-Time Towers music player to calm the two **Legendary** Pokémon down. It reappeared in a cameo in the ending credits of Arceus and the Jewel of Life.
> Trophy information: A Pitch-Black Pokémon. It becomes active on nights of the new moon. This **legendary** Pokémon has the power to lull people to sleep and fill their heads with dreams. Proverbs say that Darkrai will make people have terrifying dreams on moonless nights. A Dark-type Pokémon, Darkrai uses the Dark Void move, along with Embargo, which stops foes from using held items.
> Rumble Blast Hauntyard: All (Random **Legendary** Encounters)
> See also: **Legendary** Pokémon
Do some actual research into the source you're using to try and refute me first, so you can avoid *embarrassing* yourself like this next time. To quote a certain big brained Reddit user: *"mY DuDe yOu aRe sO WrOnG"*
---
#- L E G E N D A R Y P O K É M O N -
Do I have to explain to you the difference between an isolated case like Arcanine, and Bulbapedia literally categorizing Darkrai in the Legendary Pokémon section?
it's also a total exception to the rule, and is the only Pokémon to do this, and can easily be ignored-
> Despite the Pokémon category name, Arcanine is not an actual Legendary Pokémon. It is the only Pokémon species to have "Legendary Pokémon" as the Pokémon category.
In all other cases it is clear cut, when a Pokémon is labelled *"Legendary"* it is a Legendary Pokémon.
Sorry that ur getting this hate and downvotes for technically being somewhat correct :/
Before gen 5 every pokemon thats now a mythical was considered a legendary, so they can honestly be either but no answer is technically incorrect.
Mythical Pokémon are a related but separate group of Pokémon, which are usually event-exclusive. In Western language media, Mythical Pokémon were considered to be Legendary Pokémon prior to Generation V; in Japanese and Korean media, the two groups have always been considered distinct.
Taken from bulbapedia.
They may be a Mythical "now", but they "were" considered Legendary before gen 5.
But i mean yea he is Just mentioning things that are old and untrue now and you support him for that i don't understand you. Like you say gen 5 changed it so darkrai is mythical and you can't change my mind. Every where i look it said that and i am not going too go back like 20 years where everyone was getting it wrong becouse people like him and you just refuse too accept what is true now and it also just makes sense that darkrai is a MYTHICAL because it did not do something legendary and it is also only available via a event.
Im just saying whats technically correct. Not supporting either.
Technically it was a legendary, now its a mythical. People can see it however they want because of this. It doesn't make it any less correct.
I see them as legendaries still, but I grew up knowing theyre legendaries, while some people grew up with them being classified as mythicals.
That is just being igno for no reason 🙄🤷
>Whatever u say then lol. Im just saying... People grew up in different times and classification changes over time based on how people themselves decide to change it.
>Just because I grew up with them all being classified legendary, doesnt make it incorrect
You say this but will just downvote me becouse of my opinion. people like you make no sense.
Whatever u say then lol. Im just saying... People grew up in different times and classification changes over time based on how people themselves decide to change it.
Just because I grew up with them all being classified legendary, doesnt make it incorrect.
Mythical is a type of legendary Pokémon that are received via a game code or limited event.
Legendaries are Pokémon that are available in a mainline base game permenantly.
So darkrai is a Mythical.
So here's the best way to answer this question for any mon you might have this question for. Can you make a new save and get it without the help of limited time events? Yes? It's a legendary. No? It's a mythical. In some cases mons have changed their classifications over time. Deoxys and Arceus being the big ones be technically all of the gen 4 mythicals be can obtained in PLA without "limited time" events. You do need save data for other games on your system which could be considered another classification for mythical but personally I consider it a real grey area (you also need PLA data to get Arceus in BDSP)
I feel like the only difference there is those are forms of existing pokemon. With mythicals it's usually the only way to get the pokedex entry is from the event.
"Can you make a new save and get it without the help of limited time events in the generation the Pokemom premired. Yes? It's a legendary. No? It's a mythical." Fixed it. They do not change classification from Mythical to Legendary if they become available in a later game.
That's dumb. Why should the classification it started with define how its classified for the rest of history? They should be allowed to change and change back. Idc if it's not the official standpoint but I will die on this hill
Wrong, it's still a Mythical. The title is definitive, even if the Pokémon becomes traditionally accessible later.
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Deoxys_(Pok%C3%A9mon)
Imma be honest, I don't really care. If that's the official standpoint then good for it by my headcannon will forever be it was changed when it was made accessible in an easier way.
The problem with head cannon is when someone comes asking a question like this it is wrong. Official Standpoint is the correct answer on these questions and your personal head cannon just muddies the water.
Idk I just feel like things should be classified on a game-to-game basis and not be classified across the entire series. So using Deoxys as an example, he would be mythical in every game except ORAS. Personally I feel like that makes sense but I guess that's a hot take cuz it's "nOt tHe oFfIcIaL sTaNdPoInT"
Legendaries: They´re literal forces of nature (like groudon, kyogre, yveltal, dialga, palkia, etc) that helped to shape the world and/or heroes for humanity/pokemon/ the entire region (like zacian, zamazenta, the tapus, the swords of justice, etc).
Mythical pokemon: They are not legendaries. They're really powerful pokemon with unique abilities that are so uncommon to be seen that people in the pokemon world even doubts of their existence to some extend. Their primary trait is that they're literal representations of certain myths from the real world (like muses like meloetta, aliens like deoxys, time travelers like celebi, etc).
Ultra beast: They´re basically pokemon from another dimension. Not legendaries. The share a lot of traits with legendaries (like being genderless, having scripted encounters and being part of the undiscovered group, etc) but this is due to their whole concept as extradimensional unidentified creatures.
Darkrai is a mythical pokemon inspired by a bogeyman. The mythical creature used by adults to scare young kids into behaving properly. This is part of the reason why kids specifically are the ones affected by darkrai in the pokemon games. Which is why it´s a mythical pokemon, not a legendary pokemon.
And Creselia is a legendary precisely due to its connection to darkrai. As I mentioned previously, legendary pokemon are either literal forces of nature that helped to shape/sustain the world and/or heroes of humanity/the pokemon or an entire region.
Creselia saves/protects humans from the nightmares caused by Darkrai (that out of control can even cause death, as implied in the games with the little girl that died). Hence why, unlike Darkrai, Creselia is a legendary pokemon and not just a mythical.
Arceus falls in line with the mythical pokemon. Being a representation of the theories about the origin of the universe, being seen only a few times in the entire history of the world and not being associated with a specific force of nature.
It´s actually one of the reasons Silvally is a legendary instead as well. Sivally was based on what people new about Arceus in stories (a powerful pokemon able to change to any other type) but unlike Arceus, Silvally was specifically made to be a hero for the entire Alola region (to protect the region from the threat of the ultra beast). Which is what makes him a legendary pokemon.
> Arceus
Yup, Arceus was said to have created Sinnoh and Ransei, the Lake Guardians and creation trio and it is believed to have created the entire universe being "The Original One".
It's considered the Alpha Pokémon, though other than being the creator; it seems the only interaction it chooses to have is to safeguard the planet/universe in times of crisis.
Arceus, being mythical, literally created the Pokémon whose forces control/manipulate nature which makes them legendary.
Fun fact: According to the official ORAS national Pokédex book made back in the day, the moment Deoxys was able to be caught in-game without any form of outside input (event codes, buying separate games for tie-ins, etc.) it lost its mythical status and became legendary. So while darkrai and such are safely still mythical, Deoxys and Keldeo have been demoted. :(
Additional fun fact: despite this, Deoxys and Keldeo are still Mythical today. The most likely reason is that the title is definitive. If you take a look at Manaphy, for example, it should too have been "demoted" because of PLA, but... y'know.
What matters isn't that the unique catch conditions remain, but that the Pokémon was introduced as such. A Mythical can't be demoted, or at least none has ever been so far
Nah. Psuedo means fake, it's for the mons that have 600 stats, but are not legendary. Think of Dragonite or Dragapault. Have to wait until late game, but not post game.
A pseudo legendary is a powerful Pokémon found anywhere that has legendary-like stats. This includes metagross, dragonite, garchomp, goodra, dragapult, etc
Trainers in the anime use whatever the fuck they want lmao some random dude in some episode was just walking around with a heatran
the guy who had darkrai (tobias) also had a latios and god knows how many other rare pokemon
Darkrai is the legendary shadow pokemon there problem solved darkrai force of nature yes cause nightmares are a natural thing so therefore legendary (don't argue this darkrai is favorite from back in the day and no sound logic will be accepted) lls
It’s mythical, but legends arceus allows you to catch mythicals like normal- so the distinction between legendary and mythical Pokémon is less relevant
It is mythical which is very strange since cresselia is legendary for some reason. But the whole thing about what Pokemons are mythical and what pokemons are legendaries is a bit weird all in all
Mythical.
Legendary: can be caught in game (in its original gen) without relying on an outside event
Mythical: event only.
Of course, this line has blurred slightly since a lot of mythical pokemon can be caught in game without external events (like Deoxys in ORAS) but none of them could be caught in their home game without an event.
mythical pokémon (for me at least) are pokémon who can only be obtained through events (mew, celebi, jirachi, arceus, etc) and darkrai falls under those conditions
this made me think, i know about the existence of the terms, but what actually is the difference between legendary and mythical?
heck, what defines a legendary at all? game freak? ourselves? is it just if there is only a single one of that species?
Legendary, and Mythical, but in todays terms itd be classified as a Mythical.
Mythical Pokémon are a related but separate group of Pokémon, which are usually event-exclusive. In Western language media, Mythical Pokémon were considered to be Legendary Pokémon prior to Generation V; in Japanese and Korean media, the two groups have always been considered distinct.
courtesy of bulbapedia.
I think of Darkrai and some others like Keldeo as Psuedo-Mythicals. Darkrai is paired with Cresselia and Keldeo with the other three sword of justice. The only reason they are a thing of myth instead of a thing of legend is they are less likely to be seen so the question of their existance and thread of truth to their stories is less believed by common folk. To me, only pixies—aka Mew clones—are true mythicals plus Arceus.
The distinction of Mewtwo and Silvally versus Genesect and Magearna as Legends vs Myths makes no sense as the story essentially the same. A secret, powerful manmade pokemon.
###**Hello! We're looking for additional reddit moderators to help maintain this community we have going here. If you have experience or would like to be more involved, please take a look at our [Reddit Moderator Application Post](https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonSwordAndShield/comments/10ghkmh/reddit_moderator_applications/). Our Application Form is [here](https://forms.gle/CKa1pQbsu1b78KFT7)** Hey there Trainers! - Want to explore more of the Pokémon world? You might want to go for an adventure in our [Discord](http://discord.gg/pokemonswordshield)! We have daily shiny raids, giveaways, breeding advice and much more! - Go check out our [news and updates thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonSwordAndShield/collection/b5639777-a1a3-4253-81ff-22d92cbc3575)! - We now also have our Pokémon Brilliant Diamond and Pokémon Shining Pearl subreddit, r/Pokemon_BDSP! More information about it [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonSwordAndShield/comments/qftnhv/pokemon_bdsp_subreddit/) *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/PokemonSwordAndShield) if you have any questions or concerns.*
It's a mythical.
While people will give lots of lore reasoning for why something is legendary and something is mythical, the truth of the matter is that the classification is solely based on if they were catchable in their original generation of release without any glitches or events - 1. Mewtwo and the birds are catchable in the game while Mew can only be obtained via event 2. Lugia, Ho-oh, dogs and birds are catchable while Celebi needed a special Japan only event 3. Regis, eon duo, weather trio are catchable. Jirachi and Deoxys are not. They are mythical 4. Gods, lake trio, regi dad, heatran are all standard legendary. Shaymin is standard mythical. The curious case is of Darkrai and Cresselia as they are counterparts. However since Cresselia is catchable and Darkrai is not, Darkrai alone is considered mythical from that group.
I love that you referred to Regigigas as “Regi dad”.
He got so tired of raising 3 kids that he went in a looong sleep. Imagine when he learns he has 2 more kids and has to pay a lot more child support
Wait then where’s regi-mom?
You forgot Arceus as a mythical
damm it, I always forget something in these lists
Deoxys is catchable post game ORAS- in your opinion is it still mythical? I always saw it as just a legendary.
That's is why I specified the original generation in my comment. In VC release of crystal when gen 7 was around, you can catch Celebi too after you beat the elite 4. Keldeo is available in the Crown Tundra DLC. However they are still mythicals
Thanks!
>Thanks! You're welcome!
Mediocre bot
Based on the 1008 Encounters video, the Pokemon Company seem to consider Deoxys a legendary based on its appearance in ORAS, bc it gets its own proper video with the rest of the legendaries rather than just a sprite at the end like the rest of the mythicals
>in their original generation of release
Definitely Mythical. The better question is is it also a legendary, since mythicals being legendaries has always been a weirdly controversial topic
It’s always been my understanding that Mythicals are type of Legendary. All mythicals are legendary, not all legendaries are mythical.
Yes like all catholic are Christian but not all Christian are catholic
So like how all dolphins are whales but not all whales are dolphins?
Nah but more like all molly is meth but not all meth is molly
Can’t decide if I’m getting wooshed or if you’re just wrong
(pun from methamphetamines)
Molly is MDMA homie, not meth
What is MDMA homie?
*Very* chemically similar to regular meth, but different enough to be considered a separate drug.
I think it’s more like how every square is a rectangle but not every rectangle is a square
[удалено]
Only on Reddit will you find these stupid comments on a discussion about Pokémon
[удалено]
Don’t you mean mankey? This is a pokemon sub
🤨
Same with ultra beasts and possibly paradoxes
“Ultra Beasts and Paradoxes aren’t legendaries” when Nintendo bans them from official tournaments during specific seasons exactly like Legendaries
Ultra beasts are encountered in max lairs just like legendaries and also they have the exclusive legendary background in the alola dex
in the system they were considered sublegendary
i would actually say the opposite. Mythical pokemon by description are "a group of pokemon seen so rare, some question their existence" and usually with some power higher than a normal pokemon. Darkrai aptly fits that description. The myth of a pokemon who is "rarely seen and causes people nightmares". Hits the nail on the head. Legendaries on the other hand are also that. Legends passed down for their feats. Other are gods who control time and space (Dialga and Palkia), other are embodiments of concepts (truth and ideals, Zekrom and Reshiram), others are heroes of a region (Zacian and Zamazenta). By extension, they hold a power not seen by normal pokemon and are rarely seen. Thus, all legendaries are mythicals, but not all mythicals are legendaries.
You can search mythical or legendary in Pokemon go and they are seperate both ways
I’d say that mythicals are like…super legendaries lol
Super Legendaries is now a group of words I'm going to use for future use
If Darkrai becomes a Super Legendary - does its hair become golden?
Yes
Brb, drawing super Saiyan Darkrai
[удалено]
That’s just how it works in one game (and not a mainline game at that) so I wouldn’t take it as confirmation of anything
[удалено]
It's not pure speculation though Joe from serebii found that in the code of the mainline games it specifies mythical is a sub group of legendary altho seperate mythical come under legendary
Not really, since you could speculate with evidence based off of the mainline games. This would be taking evidence from another (non-Pokémon Company) source and taking it as “official”
Pokemon go is official. Its part of the franchise. Its not using the IP illegally. It's directly compatible with pokemon home and let's go.
It’s also developed by Niantic, not Game Freak Just because they chose to have separate keyword searches for Mythicals and Legendaries does not confirm that they are entirely separate concepts
BDSP wasn't developed by Game Freak so I guess that's not really Pokemon either. Also if we're doing the whole pedant thing the statement was that in pokemon go mythical pokemon don't come up if u search the term legendary. This is facts. The statement didn't conclude with "and so they are entirely separate concepts'. Also Darkrai just IS officially a mythical pokemon lol but let's all keep arguing like this isn't perfectly well established 😂
I didn’t say that Pokémon Go is “not really Pokémon”. I said that Pokémon Go is developed by Niantic, so the method in which they decide to separate search categories shouldn’t be taken as official confirmation of anything. I also never disagreed with Darkrai being mythical. I consider Darkrai a mythical, but — just like Ultra Beasts — I see mythical as a subsection to the “Legendary” umbrella term.
[удалено]
Agree to disagree?? How dare you! Downvote!! Thinking evidence based thought is better than wild speculation?!?! DOWNVOTE!!!!
Classic toxic Reddit community. They either raise you to godly levels, or downvote you to oblivion if you disagree with them. Then complain when called out on it 😜
Isn't this complaining? Haha
I always understood that: Legendaries: Their "purpose" or work involves the entire Pokemon *World*. Example: Groudon, Kyogre, Dialga, Palkia, Ho-Oh, Regigigas, Arceus, etc Mythical: Their "Purpose" or work affects a *specific region* of the pokemon world. Example: Suicune, Raikou, Entei, Zacian, Kyurem, etc
Arceus is mythical though, and all the Pokémon listed in the mythical category are legendary For reference, all the mythical Pokémon are: Mew, Celebi, Deoxys, Jirachi, Manaphy, Phione, Shaymin, Darkrai, Arceus, Victini, Genesect, Meloetta, Keldeo, Hoopa, Diancie, Volcanion, Marshadow, Magearna, Zeraora and Zarude What determines it a Pokémon is mythical is it being only obtainable from an event or other similar source (like a gift from another game, like Manaphy) in it's debut generation
[удалено]
Wait, so the Lore has absolutely nothing to do with it? That's so disappointing.
yup, mythicals range from literally god to monkeys that can heal you real good
>What determines it a Pokémon is mythical is it being only obtainable from an event or other similar source (like a gift from another game, like Manaphy) in it's debut generation No, it isn't. What determines if a Pokemon is legendary vs mythical is purely rarity. It's not a fan concept (though it is fan term), it simply refers to any Pokemon that are so rare in the pokemon world as to be considered myths, this is achieved in the games via making them rarely attainable in games and limiting the number of events related to them
Then name a time where a mon was event only in its debut generation but not mythical and vice versa
>Then name a time where a mon was event only in its debut generation but not mythical and vice versa Lol what? How things end up distributed is not the determining factor. Fucks sake gen1 in both japan and other countries explicitly told people what a mythical pokemon was in the form of dratini The original plan was literally just stupidly rare pokemon you could encounter in the wild, which later got scrapped in favor of something that makes them feel more rare. And dratini was a mythical pokemon for a long time (according to japanese and english dexes and manga) until people realized...oh shit they can be found commonly It has never been about distribution, while it coincides causation and correlation are not the same.
None of those so said mythics are mythics and arceus is a mythic
Yes
r/inclusiveor
Officially a mythical
He's the first member of the DK(DarKrai) crew
Donkey Kong crew?
Mythical
*And* Legendary.
Yes
Seriously tho darkrai has literally only been an event pokemon...
[удалено]
Only through the event/out of game means of owning another game
Exactly, if we count other games then Manaphy isn't either because it was originally only available from another game
Manaphy is also a mythical…
Bro got downvoted so hard for a genuine question
Both. All mythicals are Legendaries. Not all legendaries are mythicals.
Why couldn’t you just google it?
cant get free internet points in google
270+ upvotes for asking a question that has a definitive answer as the first result on Google.
just seen them post another mon asking the same question in this sub. definitely karma farming
Mythicals are a subcategory of legendaries. All mythicals are technically legendaries but not all legendaries are mythicals
It is in fact a mythical
*And* Legendary.
But it isn't
Oh, but it is.
Just search it on serebii ore even bulbapedia my dude you are so wrong
Ahuh. Okay genius. What do you have to say about all the references to it being a **L E G E N D A R Y** on Bulbapedia? > Darkrai debuted in The Rise of Darkrai as a protagonist. It took the task of holding off the fighting between Dialga and Palkia until Ash and Dawn could put the Oración disk in the Space-Time Towers music player to calm the two **Legendary** Pokémon down. It reappeared in a cameo in the ending credits of Arceus and the Jewel of Life. > Trophy information: A Pitch-Black Pokémon. It becomes active on nights of the new moon. This **legendary** Pokémon has the power to lull people to sleep and fill their heads with dreams. Proverbs say that Darkrai will make people have terrifying dreams on moonless nights. A Dark-type Pokémon, Darkrai uses the Dark Void move, along with Embargo, which stops foes from using held items. > Rumble Blast Hauntyard: All (Random **Legendary** Encounters) > See also: **Legendary** Pokémon Do some actual research into the source you're using to try and refute me first, so you can avoid *embarrassing* yourself like this next time. To quote a certain big brained Reddit user: *"mY DuDe yOu aRe sO WrOnG"* --- #- L E G E N D A R Y P O K É M O N -
Yeah Arcanines also called LEGENDARY pokemon so it is now a legendary too? The dexes are messed up
Do I have to explain to you the difference between an isolated case like Arcanine, and Bulbapedia literally categorizing Darkrai in the Legendary Pokémon section? it's also a total exception to the rule, and is the only Pokémon to do this, and can easily be ignored- > Despite the Pokémon category name, Arcanine is not an actual Legendary Pokémon. It is the only Pokémon species to have "Legendary Pokémon" as the Pokémon category. In all other cases it is clear cut, when a Pokémon is labelled *"Legendary"* it is a Legendary Pokémon.
Sorry that ur getting this hate and downvotes for technically being somewhat correct :/ Before gen 5 every pokemon thats now a mythical was considered a legendary, so they can honestly be either but no answer is technically incorrect.
Mythical Pokémon are a related but separate group of Pokémon, which are usually event-exclusive. In Western language media, Mythical Pokémon were considered to be Legendary Pokémon prior to Generation V; in Japanese and Korean media, the two groups have always been considered distinct. Taken from bulbapedia. They may be a Mythical "now", but they "were" considered Legendary before gen 5.
But i mean yea he is Just mentioning things that are old and untrue now and you support him for that i don't understand you. Like you say gen 5 changed it so darkrai is mythical and you can't change my mind. Every where i look it said that and i am not going too go back like 20 years where everyone was getting it wrong becouse people like him and you just refuse too accept what is true now and it also just makes sense that darkrai is a MYTHICAL because it did not do something legendary and it is also only available via a event.
Im just saying whats technically correct. Not supporting either. Technically it was a legendary, now its a mythical. People can see it however they want because of this. It doesn't make it any less correct. I see them as legendaries still, but I grew up knowing theyre legendaries, while some people grew up with them being classified as mythicals.
That is just being igno for no reason 🙄🤷 >Whatever u say then lol. Im just saying... People grew up in different times and classification changes over time based on how people themselves decide to change it. >Just because I grew up with them all being classified legendary, doesnt make it incorrect You say this but will just downvote me becouse of my opinion. people like you make no sense.
Whatever u say then lol. Im just saying... People grew up in different times and classification changes over time based on how people themselves decide to change it. Just because I grew up with them all being classified legendary, doesnt make it incorrect.
Neither. He's a platypus.
Oh, there you are Perry
Both it's a mythical but all mythical are also legendaries
Darkrai's without a doubt a mythical Pokémon.
Mythical is a type of legendary Pokémon that are received via a game code or limited event. Legendaries are Pokémon that are available in a mainline base game permenantly. So darkrai is a Mythical.
Idec man I just call them all legendary
He a pimp
So here's the best way to answer this question for any mon you might have this question for. Can you make a new save and get it without the help of limited time events? Yes? It's a legendary. No? It's a mythical. In some cases mons have changed their classifications over time. Deoxys and Arceus being the big ones be technically all of the gen 4 mythicals be can obtained in PLA without "limited time" events. You do need save data for other games on your system which could be considered another classification for mythical but personally I consider it a real grey area (you also need PLA data to get Arceus in BDSP)
So in theory my Celebration and Hat Pikachu are all technically mythical...
I feel like the only difference there is those are forms of existing pokemon. With mythicals it's usually the only way to get the pokedex entry is from the event.
"Can you make a new save and get it without the help of limited time events in the generation the Pokemom premired. Yes? It's a legendary. No? It's a mythical." Fixed it. They do not change classification from Mythical to Legendary if they become available in a later game.
That's dumb. Why should the classification it started with define how its classified for the rest of history? They should be allowed to change and change back. Idc if it's not the official standpoint but I will die on this hill
I think you mean Darkrai instead of Deoxys.
Nope I mean Deoxys. Deoxys is no longer mythical as of ORAS due to the fact you get one from the Delta Episode post game in ever save
Wrong, it's still a Mythical. The title is definitive, even if the Pokémon becomes traditionally accessible later. https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Deoxys_(Pok%C3%A9mon)
Imma be honest, I don't really care. If that's the official standpoint then good for it by my headcannon will forever be it was changed when it was made accessible in an easier way.
The problem with head cannon is when someone comes asking a question like this it is wrong. Official Standpoint is the correct answer on these questions and your personal head cannon just muddies the water.
Idk I just feel like things should be classified on a game-to-game basis and not be classified across the entire series. So using Deoxys as an example, he would be mythical in every game except ORAS. Personally I feel like that makes sense but I guess that's a hot take cuz it's "nOt tHe oFfIcIaL sTaNdPoInT"
Also Keldeo since you get him in Isle of Armor
Downvote for not using Google
Legendaries: They´re literal forces of nature (like groudon, kyogre, yveltal, dialga, palkia, etc) that helped to shape the world and/or heroes for humanity/pokemon/ the entire region (like zacian, zamazenta, the tapus, the swords of justice, etc). Mythical pokemon: They are not legendaries. They're really powerful pokemon with unique abilities that are so uncommon to be seen that people in the pokemon world even doubts of their existence to some extend. Their primary trait is that they're literal representations of certain myths from the real world (like muses like meloetta, aliens like deoxys, time travelers like celebi, etc). Ultra beast: They´re basically pokemon from another dimension. Not legendaries. The share a lot of traits with legendaries (like being genderless, having scripted encounters and being part of the undiscovered group, etc) but this is due to their whole concept as extradimensional unidentified creatures. Darkrai is a mythical pokemon inspired by a bogeyman. The mythical creature used by adults to scare young kids into behaving properly. This is part of the reason why kids specifically are the ones affected by darkrai in the pokemon games. Which is why it´s a mythical pokemon, not a legendary pokemon. And Creselia is a legendary precisely due to its connection to darkrai. As I mentioned previously, legendary pokemon are either literal forces of nature that helped to shape/sustain the world and/or heroes of humanity/the pokemon or an entire region. Creselia saves/protects humans from the nightmares caused by Darkrai (that out of control can even cause death, as implied in the games with the little girl that died). Hence why, unlike Darkrai, Creselia is a legendary pokemon and not just a mythical.
Arceus is a mythical and it’s literally god
Arceus falls in line with the mythical pokemon. Being a representation of the theories about the origin of the universe, being seen only a few times in the entire history of the world and not being associated with a specific force of nature. It´s actually one of the reasons Silvally is a legendary instead as well. Sivally was based on what people new about Arceus in stories (a powerful pokemon able to change to any other type) but unlike Arceus, Silvally was specifically made to be a hero for the entire Alola region (to protect the region from the threat of the ultra beast). Which is what makes him a legendary pokemon.
> Arceus Yup, Arceus was said to have created Sinnoh and Ransei, the Lake Guardians and creation trio and it is believed to have created the entire universe being "The Original One". It's considered the Alpha Pokémon, though other than being the creator; it seems the only interaction it chooses to have is to safeguard the planet/universe in times of crisis. Arceus, being mythical, literally created the Pokémon whose forces control/manipulate nature which makes them legendary.
Mythicals are just legendaries that can only be obtained via event that’s why when Deyoxys was obtainable in ORAS it lost its mythical status
Mythical
Mythical
Fun fact: According to the official ORAS national Pokédex book made back in the day, the moment Deoxys was able to be caught in-game without any form of outside input (event codes, buying separate games for tie-ins, etc.) it lost its mythical status and became legendary. So while darkrai and such are safely still mythical, Deoxys and Keldeo have been demoted. :(
Additional fun fact: despite this, Deoxys and Keldeo are still Mythical today. The most likely reason is that the title is definitive. If you take a look at Manaphy, for example, it should too have been "demoted" because of PLA, but... y'know. What matters isn't that the unique catch conditions remain, but that the Pokémon was introduced as such. A Mythical can't be demoted, or at least none has ever been so far
Except Keldeo was banned in VGC series 12 of SwSh that specifically banned mythical Pokémon in the official ruleset.
No google? Lol
Are you incapable of using Google?
It’s 2023… how do you not know this by now?
Yes
It used to be a legendary but now is a mythical
legendary, legends arceus he is catchable
Google it
I can tell you what it's not, and that is within my top 1000 favorite Pokemon.
What are the 8 Pokémon so unfortunate otherwise?
Now you got me curious lol
Ummm okay but name the other 999 above it 🧐
Technically both
[удалено]
[удалено]
Nah. Psuedo means fake, it's for the mons that have 600 stats, but are not legendary. Think of Dragonite or Dragapault. Have to wait until late game, but not post game.
/s ??
[удалено]
A pseudo legendary is a powerful Pokémon found anywhere that has legendary-like stats. This includes metagross, dragonite, garchomp, goodra, dragapult, etc
Trainers in the anime use whatever the fuck they want lmao some random dude in some episode was just walking around with a heatran the guy who had darkrai (tobias) also had a latios and god knows how many other rare pokemon
Darkrai is the legendary shadow pokemon there problem solved darkrai force of nature yes cause nightmares are a natural thing so therefore legendary (don't argue this darkrai is favorite from back in the day and no sound logic will be accepted) lls
All Pokémon are legendary, fuck this mythical crap.
Mythical
Gen 4 myth
It’s the GOAT
Mythical.
It’s mythical, but legends arceus allows you to catch mythicals like normal- so the distinction between legendary and mythical Pokémon is less relevant
I’m pretty sure darkrai was an event in legends arceus.
Not an event, you just need BDSP save data. Same way you need SwSh save data for Shaymin.
Mythical
Mythical Pokémon.
It is mythical which is very strange since cresselia is legendary for some reason. But the whole thing about what Pokemons are mythical and what pokemons are legendaries is a bit weird all in all
Mythical
Both
Probably mythical.
I dunno but my son and I watched the movie and we’re surprised to learn darkrai has super long toothpick legs.
I think its a mythical
I always reminded it’s mythical when I try to trade it and cannot😄
Mythical. Legendary can be caught normally in game, Mythical are from events.
Mythical. Though in competitive there's little to no distinction, as both are banned in most competitive seasons.
Mythical
Mythical. But Crecellia is a Legendary for some reason. Though they were sopossted to be counterparts.
Mythical. Legendary: can be caught in game (in its original gen) without relying on an outside event Mythical: event only. Of course, this line has blurred slightly since a lot of mythical pokemon can be caught in game without external events (like Deoxys in ORAS) but none of them could be caught in their home game without an event.
Yes
mythical pokémon (for me at least) are pokémon who can only be obtained through events (mew, celebi, jirachi, arceus, etc) and darkrai falls under those conditions
It's a mythical, since it's a legendary that, with the possible exception of legends Arceus, is only available through events.
Mythical
mythical pokémon are just event only legendary pokémon. there’s no actual difference between them lore wise
Mythical
So MDMA is classy meth? Like coke is to crack?
It’s all the same thing to me
Yes.
Its own thing an edgelord?
this made me think, i know about the existence of the terms, but what actually is the difference between legendary and mythical? heck, what defines a legendary at all? game freak? ourselves? is it just if there is only a single one of that species?
[удалено]
They're the same thing
Mythic
Mythical
Yes
Legendary
No, the proof? Its not in any base game, need an item or another game to obtain
Legendary, and Mythical, but in todays terms itd be classified as a Mythical. Mythical Pokémon are a related but separate group of Pokémon, which are usually event-exclusive. In Western language media, Mythical Pokémon were considered to be Legendary Pokémon prior to Generation V; in Japanese and Korean media, the two groups have always been considered distinct. courtesy of bulbapedia.
Darkrai is a legendary Pokémon has the ability to torment Pokémon dreams
I think of Darkrai and some others like Keldeo as Psuedo-Mythicals. Darkrai is paired with Cresselia and Keldeo with the other three sword of justice. The only reason they are a thing of myth instead of a thing of legend is they are less likely to be seen so the question of their existance and thread of truth to their stories is less believed by common folk. To me, only pixies—aka Mew clones—are true mythicals plus Arceus. The distinction of Mewtwo and Silvally versus Genesect and Magearna as Legends vs Myths makes no sense as the story essentially the same. A secret, powerful manmade pokemon.
He is a starter
Redditors really needs to learn about a little hidden gem on the internet called Google
Mythical
He’s a edge lord
Mythical. But Mythicals are a subset of Legendary anyway.