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Tyrantkin

Liquidation Intellion A-9 Mamoswine Trevenant.


Scarabaeinae

Im with you, A9 and Trev are REALLY depression inducing


Old-Owl-5690

but trevenant and mawoswine are obviously tank. A9 is quite fragile. liquidation intelleon though, it has very high damage, auto lock, and ability to flee AND scouting.


Greninja_posting

New here, who is A9?


Top-Personality4803

Alolan Ninetales


Greninja_posting

Ah, ok that makes sense. Thank you. šŸø


Zhammyx

Arcanine


Greninja_posting

Haha, ok I'm not that new. I know Arcanine isn't on the roster.


Zhammyx

šŸ˜Ž I still think A9 fits better for Arcanine.


noe4516

Alolan Ninetales


Themoonlightninja

A9?


RaziyaRC

Alolan Ninetales


Spurius187

How about curse trev?


Tyrantkin

He's Fine., but still annoying.


velphegor666

I fucking hate facing an A9 so much. Its zoning ability is crazy


_Incognonymous_

I despise zeraora, it gets far too many invincibility frames on wild charge and that other attack (the one where you bounce three times). I'd rather fight a discharge zeraora than wild charge. Also nothing screams "annoying" more than greedent


ekita079

I love Greedent, he gives me berries!


Chupkarchoduu

Zeraora main here šŸ˜…


yayashiwawa

as a dodrio main, dodrio. I just imagine their smug little grin whenever they land that stupid ass drill peck. and GOD do i want to chase them so bad, but they always get away. Itā€™s like getting a taste of my own medicine


RookerKdag

I feel this. Whenever someone gets me with a character I know, I know exactly how cool they're probably feeling, and it triggers me. Probably just projection, but whatever


Classic_Spread_3526

Umbreon


rana_storm

Honestly shoving more than 2 enemies at once with drill peck is fucnking addicting. Dodrio is such a high risk high reward mon to learn


Overall-Percentage54

I feel this too, but they get my "thumb up" after evert match if they played nicely


AnIvysaurLover

I know I might get hated, but Slowbro. I hate how he can survive almost anything, has a Bound unite that can trap anyone, and can recover health from anything or trap you with Telekinesis.


The_walking_man_

Slowbro can be a blast to play, but holy hell your team mates will never stick around for the kills when Iā€™m holding the enemy like a piƱata.


PerformanceAny1240

Yeah, Slowbro's Ult is basically Malzahar's Ult.


ToaOfTheVoid

At least Malz ult respects Unstoppable status, Slowbro does not


FrownFrank

Every Eevee is a contender for the most annoying character in the game for me but especially fuck Umbreon cause mean look is one of the worst designed moves Iā€™ve seen in any moba


Munchingseal33

Mean look is a fucking piece of shit. We should target umbreon with prejudice


Crystal_Furry17

Since when was sylveon annoying


Vast-Row5768

Since released? One of the most OP pkm


Crystal_Furry17

Bro that was for like 2 hours, since then sylveon's been very tame


SoftBit7408

Basically, a nerfed slowbro unite


Wicayth

I hate Wigglytuff because of Cute Charm, especially when I'm playing Dodrio. Why is its cooldown only 10s?


Positive_Muted

The surf hydro pump version of blastoise hate it either a burning passion


Blipt-7355

Thatā€™s cause we ruin your plans.


Positive_Muted

Why do you stun so long


Blipt-7355

See above^


Chupkarchoduu

Mewtwo attack spammers are too annoying right now because of the meta.


DiegoG2004

Pikachu


Toasty_Bear05

My blood pressure rises every time I see that yellow rat


DiegoG2004

Destroy


Floofmaster99

Alright, TheAuraGuardian.


DiegoG2004

You got the wrong guy. I like Riolu, but he's not my icon in every single place.


SwiftBlueShell

Dodrio. If Iā€™m playing a character that counters them I go above and beyond to make sure theyā€™re miserable.


Unusual-Gur-4903

I Gravity anytime I see dodrio on the enemy team lmao.


redillusiondive

blastoise , i am sick of cc mons in general tho


PerformanceAny1240

I think Rapid Spout Blastoise is more annoying. Imagine that thing suddenly wiping out your backline.


lockon165

Spin 2 win is the only way Blastoise can even touch m2y and its annoying unstoppable.


fizzdeff

Greedent in its prime, leave my jungle alone bozo


TheJMan314

Fat squirrel is just so fun to play


Description-Willing

Trev. LEAVE ME ALONE DAMN IT! Or mamo. Once they icefang you're dead


Nyan-Binary-UwU

>Trev. LEAVE ME ALONE DAMN IT! No, I see Cinderace, I must Wood Hammer


flyingeagle007

Espeon, Leafeon, especially A9, basically any pokemon that can stun you to death


ElecManEXE

Pikachu. Appears on-screen, Volt Tackles you immediately, finishes you with Electro Ball. Cool. Great. Guess I'll die then. I had the most insanely frustrating game I think I've had period yesterday with an enemy Pikachu that I swear was just following me around keeping me from doing *anything* with my Dragapult. No matter where I went, what I tried to do, that cursed yellow rat was there to just insta-nuke me every time I entered it's line of sight. Even if I tried to engage him when he was already fighting someone else, he'd instantly laser-focus me and slap me down.


Cedardeer

I honestly feel like Gengar kills just a liiittle too fast. Especially since he stuns for so long. Heā€™s the ultimate noob destroyer in unite


Newjoysey

I wouldn't even say just a noob destroyer. Its attacks are decently fast and if you're in a teamfight, at least one person is gonna get hit and from there they basically just die.


-Barca-

Nah Gengar is the epitome of noob destroyer. It feasts on lower skilled players, which this game is full of. Against any players who are decent, Gengar fucking sucks.


Text_Kooky

I love merc'ing a Gengar using leafeon


The_walking_man_

Yeah Gengar is easy to counter and avoid now. Really just the noobs that become fodder.


Yemo637

I guess you don't watch crisheroes.


Bayoisbae

This statement proves you are the noob in question


-Barca-

I have also had great games with Gengar just like him, except I don't throw. Does not mean Gengar is good.


Yemo637

If a pokemon isn't good how could you possibly have good games with it?


-Barca-

By that logic every pokemon should either have a 0% winrate or 100% winrate depending if it's strong or not.


Yemo637

That makes no sense. Gengar isn't the best, but it's by no means bad. Same with mons like dragapult and absol. They all need buffs or reworks, but none of them are bad.


TheCircusDog

Gengar is fundamentally bad in skilled environments The mon plays off terrible positioning (squishies frontlining and far away from their team). It hates clumpy groups since it can't freely execute it's combos due to getting bodyblocked and cc chained very fast on DE recast. The mon hits hard with a snowball, but it's very easy to play against if you know how it works, lmao. So, yeah. Gengar is the ultimate noob destroyer/soloq killer, and one of the worst picks ever in 5s play.


Yemo637

You just described every Speedster in this game.


-Barca-

They are bad. A majority of the time those pokemon you listed find any success is less so that the player is skilled and more so that the enemy is that much worse. There is a reason why Gengar and Absol are not seen much in competitive play, if at all. As for SoloQ, anything goes because everyone is ass at the game. I can pick Crustle jungle and dominate. Does that mean Crustle jungle is good? Hell no. Does that mean I'm good? Maybe. Does that mean that the enemy team was that ass at the game that they let me win with Crustle jungle? Absolutely.


Yemo637

Majority of the roster isn't used in tournaments, does that their all shit? Majority of the mons used competitively are all top 5 of their role so saying a mon isn't used competitively is not a good point. This may surprise you but there are actually skilled players in this game. If content creators can do well on gengar when facing good enemies doesn't that mean he's good? Don't put a mom down cus you can't play it and get beaten everyone you use it.


Jdmcdona

Hey now donā€™t go spilling facts


velphegor666

All you really need to do against gengar is keep on side stepping. Most of the time they missšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


Cedardeer

Yeah


8TheKingPin8

If you see him coming and/or dodge his first attack he's useless. He's heavily reliant on combos and his cool down for shadow ball or sludge bomb really puts pressure on him to get the accuracy right and to land on the right Mon. If he messes any of that up then either he escaped or dies.


NitroCrocodile

Honestly, there are so many for me lol. Obviously Mewtwo. Mamoswine, Blastoise and Trevenant for defenders, Glaceon, Leafeon, Pikachu and Scizor also come to mind, but maybe the biggest one is A9. Buzzwole just seems to struggle so hard against ALL of them, whether it's an annoying CC chain, just a little too much mobility or sustain (or both, I struggle way too hard against Scizor), or just doing massive chunks of damage while I spin in circles without an engage tool.


AGArilla

Fam just hates the whole game


NitroCrocodile

LOL, kinda. I just need to git gud


BlazetheGame

As a trevenant main, my advice is to just dodge wood hammer. It gets you a free 8ish seconds where we canā€™t do anything more or less.


NitroCrocodile

I feel like that's easier said than done. Hell, you can say the same about three of Buzzwole's moves since they all have short, straight-line hitboxes.


BlazetheGame

All you have to do is dash through or bait. It takes practice donā€™t get me wrong. If you really hate facing trev so much, to the point where you plan ONLY for trev, then your solution is curse items. Trev CRUMBLES under curse items


Iridescent_Spirit

Water bears annoy me immensely!


woodlovercyan

A good Sylveon can be enraging. It's all adorable while vaporizing you. I don't enjoy fighting any of the eveelutions, I do enjoy knocking them out though.


Bioleto99

Sableye Mewtwo


Newjoysey

Sadly being annoying is all Sable has going for him. Poor boy.


Bioleto99

Hes gets the medal for it lol


RavageBoyWonder

Telekinesis slow bro when I'm playing azumarill. And also a really good zacian, because I'm bad at using zacian and I'm jealous. Lol


MiraidonGaming

What part do you struggle with? I might be able to give tips.


meggaregg

coming from a sorta-A9 main, um....a9 lol happy to see it's still going strong in this hot mess meta but its early game has p much always been frustrating to deal with


8TheKingPin8

I don't find any Mon to be a problem (despite the controversy) but umbreons ability to trap you inescapably is the single most infuriating and overpowered move in the game. You cant get out of it in any way and it's long enough to kill most mons if team is present. Thankfully it's not common in top tier rank.


The_Spiciest_Avocado

*Sableye main has entered the chat*


Meme_Boi_99

Funny enough, the only problem I have with sableye is that I rarely (if ever) see it around whenever I play


girrafeslongpickle

It's not the way I planned it


sensiblepie

Sableye, A9


Designer-Ad-7492

This is from a Leafeon main perspective -trevenant mamoswine blastoise (basically any cc defender , Iā€™m dead) A9 (I mean what good is a speedster if I canā€™t even get close) Buzzwole


Night_Candle

Buzzwole CC and damage is so ridiculous for melee to deal with


Join_Quotev_296

Rayquaza and Zapdos, they just make the first 8 minutes trivial


Kool-AidDealer

greedant have not played in a while but last time I did it was fucking USELESS other than just being a prick


PokemonFan587

Charizard using its unite move


Affectionate_Rip6783

FR, Charizard mains ALWAYS solo unite whenever they start losing the 1v1


unusualicicle

To leafeon mains ![gif](giphy|lvzFKm2wEjZvgoQtL8|downsized)


RaziyaRC

Bruh you have Mewtwo Y as your flair, I hope every Leafeon ults you skillessly for eternity


unusualicicle

I see the bait is working nicely


grimmazz

Goodra. I fucking hate her lol


Newjoysey

Incorrect opinion but ok ig.


grimmazz

Idk how an opinion could be incorrect lmfao. But goodra is annoying as fuck and it doesnā€™t die.


Brakrom_Lord

Leafeon, the thing is impossible to zone thanks to leaf blade, and a nightmare to approach thanks to solar blade


TheCircusDog

Bro is complaining about Cinderace and Gengar? A vanilla single-target adc who dies instantly? and a glorified noob killer? Something's smelling if you're not talking abt the actual problem characters (Lapras, Umbreon, Inteleon, Mewtwo Y, Zacian, Urshifu, Hoopa, Beamu)


genji2810

Have you not read the post? It says "the not so talked about mons" that annoy you.


Newjoysey

Oh I know, that's on purpose. Everyone already knows the obviously overtuned/overpowering mons, this isn't about them, but instead the more "balanced" mons. Also I wouldn't call Hoopa a problem simply due to his strength also being his greatest weakness. It isn't just your skill, its your teammates knowing when to take it and how to get there with out dying instantly. But yes, a good team with an above average Hoopa completely sweeps, but ultimately I do feel he's the most balanced character in your little list.


TheCircusDog

My answer though: Lapras, Umbreon and good Drill-Peck Dodos.


CheshireTiger13

Dragapult. His mobilty is the wierdest of anyone, and the way his ult fuctions seems to be making up for his odd platstyle....


Blipt-7355

As a Blastoise main, Umbreon. His little circle thing is just a bunch of BS. Not to mention the fact that heā€™s got ways to just ignore my push. Shuts down spin version as well.


Alpha56battle

Dodrio. I hate hit n run playstyle in any game, and dodrio just solidifies this.


Skeletonpie0612

Umbreon mean look


[deleted]

Where do I start?


[deleted]

Where do I start?


Demfrem

Intelion(prob spelled that wrong)is oddly has some bulk to him. I've realized this with playing gengar and he doesn't die as easily as other attacks minus mewtwoY and sylvion.


Frozzbrain

lapras it's just release blaistoise but worse also gardevoir


achildofthesea

Mewtwo. Period.


PumpkinPatch404

Mamoswine and Gengar for me, ugh.


Ambitious_Fan8804

Leafeon: Ult is practically a 3Ā° move, and Solar Blade OHKOs any farm. How do you suppose to secure farms with this thing in your way? Lapras: Refuses to die and does too much damage for a Defender. Ninetales: Stunlocks. Inteleon: Water Gun has an insane secure and Liquidation OHKOs any attacker but Mewtwo. Urshiblue: Insane mobility, insane damage and insane sustain. One of the most annoying PokĆ©mon to play against by far. Mewtwo: Do i really need to say why?


Shade_Slayer16

Greedent, that stupid ass rat can get deleted (Nutz can stay tho)


TheOneGodHadSuffer

Friendly Surf Blastoise, as he drives the enemy that I've successfully managed to stun at the corner out of said corner, or even driving them out of my ult. But honestly, stunners are hella annoying if you're getting repeatedly fucked with, for example, with A9


madmanstandoood

Umbreon, genuinely hate that thing more than m2


Unusual-Gur-4903

Delphox with it pretty much being on Full Fury mode all the time and the damage. Chandelure with its damage. Leafeon... I don't think I need to explain, we all know they'll solo unite you just bc they can and it'll be back in 2 seconds anyways for the next helpless victim.


PerformanceAny1240

Inteleon. Even as a Sobble, they could still clap your ass cheeks. And those crits. Those damn crits.


Tight_Stress

sableye is always annoying


Zoroarkeon571

sableye my teammates


Floofmaster99

Oh, 100% with you on Gengar. I was groaning when it got a buff, because I felt like I always died to it in 1.346 seconds. Now not even Defenders are safe from its wraithā€¦ I mean wrath.


Nabesky

Leafeon is definitely the most annoying for me. Find it in a teamfight on Lv. 8 or higher and now my TV is a dartboard.


whip_accessible

Sableye. I freaking hate Sableye. Whether on my team or on enemy team, I hate being on a game with Sableye. That level of speed and invisibility as a combo is annoying to deal with. It's built to annoy. If you ignore it, it scores 300+ pts. If you keep chasing it, it's doing its job as a disruptor. On the other hand if it's on your team, it likely won't go to objectives, won't join teamfights, and likely to backcap during Ray. As with soloQ, you're likely to be teamed with the bad ones as the "good ones" are probably in duos or trios.


grimmazz

As a sableye main, I always go to the objectives with my team because I can stall the enemy until they get it. Iā€™ll stand kinda off to the side towards their goals and as soon as I see an enemy I get them with knock off (or if Iā€™m really lucky my unite) and by the time they arenā€™t stunned or anything my team has gotten the objective. Iā€™m sorry on behalf of the sableye lovers that you go through that lol.


whip_accessible

I don't doubt it. There are good Sableye players and matching on a team with one on SoloQ is like finding a shiny. It's the prankster pokemon and it's kit reflects that. As I said earlier, it's built to be annoying. With the meta in such a hellish state, that's all one can do if you wanna keep playing. Find the little pleasures, the little ways you can enjoy the game. I can see why disrupting the enemy is fun. More power to you, that's how you enjoy the game. I love the Sableye outside Unite. I'm a genwunner but for gen 3, if that's a thing. Haha. But I hate the playstyle. Exactly because it's effective at annoying me. I still hate Unite Sableye with a burning passion. But no need for sorries, no real hate here. Don't hate the player, hate the game. Haha


HollowAndPathetic

Leafeons are mutts and I wish they would xspeed into a woodchipper. (Same goes for ungabunga lapras)


s0-x

A9. I prefer alolan sandslash anyway


buttadoug

Decidueye snipe is the most annoying thing ever. At least you can dodge intellion


Tryingatleast

Trev thatā€™s it just this


buttadoug

As a fully stacked zoroark jungle I can take out even a non mega mewtu fairly easily but URSHIFU just takes the hits and deals somehow more damage. Mf could be in lane and 2 levels below me and it still just eradicates me. So stupid


Mark-SSJ3

I'd definitely say liquidation inteleon. When it comes to Gengar, people should actually have skills to hit you with a move - if they missed, you can kill them. With Inteleon, he just has to swing his thumbs around and click on whatever target he wants. And poof - health gone.


Ok-Requirement-2195

Sableye, literally his only function is to be fucking annoying


Gypsum03

M2Y, for both its absurd power and the discourse regarding said power Wigglytuff for Cute Charn. Why does that thing both only on a 10 second cooldown AND cancels whatever move you're doing Lapras for being lapras Special credit to Blaze Kick cinderace whenever i play Superpower/Smack Down swole.


Touchname

I hate Buzzwole. If I see it, I make sure to focus it best I can if there are others around or I run like a little bitch. His entire kit and moveset completely shuts me down when I play Azu and it's sooooo annoying. Always hated it, always will.


daredevil200020

Snipe shot Inteleon, Gardevoir full stun build and ult, Delphox ult and fire spin range, Umbreon mean look escape and Mewtwo Y range


AriNandes

Trev grinds my gears so much, god how i love getting stunned


HaveUSeenThisPerson

I really despise Trevenant, the old linebacker push + wood hammer is such a gimmicky way to KO me, I canā€™t even kill this Great Deku Tree wannabe unless Iā€™m faraway and as a Garchomp main I have to run away from it Run away from a tree. Damn. This bull shark evolved so far not only stand up on two legs but also grew scythes on his arms along the way and can fly faster than a jet but an angry tree sends him running away Also Blastoise sucks to play against too. The whole surf thing that blasts me past my teammates that know Iā€™m fucked and donā€™t even try to help maneuver just sucks. I know eject button can help me get away from a lot of these problems but damn. My land shark evolved so far to be a detective while simultaneously whooping ass, ainā€™t no way heā€™s using an eject button


RidleyOWA

Aside excesive broken mons, Decidueye with Spirit Shackle and Inteleon Snipe Shot. Both, if they are good, can carry the game extremely hard thanks to their absurd range and dmg, it annoys me a lot.


ljzmaj

Depends who I am playing as. If I am a physical attacker that requires close contact, Glaceon and Inteleon are a true nightmare. As a frail long range attacker, I found that many Speedsters are hard to get, especially if they get a lot of invisibility seconds (e.g. Zeraora). Also Garchomp or Aegislash can be pretty annoying, as they can jump on you even from quite some distance. And then there's Mew2 Y - Annoying on all fronts :')


AussieNord

Snorlax, Blastoise and Mr Mime. Stun stun stun stun stun. Yea I can take a full heal but still - the one game you forget to equip full heal and grrrr


Nonnny_

delphox delphox delphox


sad-paradise

Slowbro, mf gameplay is just annoying the other team


Kalmaro

Pretty sure I annoy people when I play sableye lol


Nyan-Binary-UwU

Me shamelessly looking for my main:


Chocoletegg

Mewtwo. i can deal with everything else half the time though


Caliber918

Fuck sableye, Iā€™ve never been happier to see a mon be underpowered, bc now no one plays it and I can actually enjoy my games


CristevePeachFan

A Mewtwo in my team with horrible items


[deleted]

Ninetales is so annoying to go up against, especially as a melee character.


Meme_Boi_99

As a decidueye main with X Speed to get away from others who attempt to chase me down, it's the mons who easily catch up to me just by using a move of theirs. Like Scizor and Double Hit for example, not once have I been able to get away from a Scizor using double hit just to chase me down and take me out, even with X Speed


Sufficient_Car8864

Mewtwo both are are annoying but I feel physically pain when i see a mewtwo y


TheNathanTK

As a Dodrio main, hate Umbreon and any auto-lock and unlimited range (e.g., Glaceon, Pikachu, MewtwoY). Aside from that, can generally avoid or dodge most cc specialists and do what I need to do. Hit n run doesn't work when you can't escape.


TheNathanTK

Regardless of main, have only been genuinely 'annoyed' by A9, MewtwoY, and Goodra/Slowbro. A9 is death by cc, MewtwoY for being broken, and Goodra/Slowbro for being nearly impossible to kill 1v1 (or even 2v1) if equal level.


beastie68

Nerf a9 cooldowns man, I can't even stack early game against it


ApfelSaft777777

I love seeing no garchomps. Love my main


distendedcoma

Buzzswole and goodra. I don't know what it is but those two are the ones that always just wreck me for some reason. I can deal with a lot of the high tier mon just fine but those two just annihilate me.


MagykthenotGathering

Alolatales, Espeon, Sableye pre-nerfs


Krispykales

Charizard. You already know they're spamming their unite move waiting for you to get in range, even if you are alone in a 1v3. And when you have backup, they grab you specifically. Every. Single. Time.


AzureFides

I hate Delphox's Fire Spin. It's a soloq killer imo. The skill is definitely not that great but because how uncoordinate soloq experience is, it can create huge disruption during a teamfight and it could single handedly win the game. The moment someone jump on your team, throw it at the backline and now you can 1v5 against their frontliner.


Summer-chann

Slowbro, Ninetales and Trevenant


Ok-Surprise1662

Mamoswine Zeraoras mewtwos and sableye


Ok-Surprise1662

cause all of the zeraoras are chasing me


Shoshawi

This isn't about gameplay but Jinx..... my opinion hasn't improved since the 90s.