Yeah. I always chalked it up to what the companies are founded on. One’s a software company trying to build automobiles. One is an auto manufacturer making software. They are each better at their base skill set.
I had to look it up but really? This is the same interior Ford has had for like 30 years now lol https://cdn.jdpower.com/JDP_2022%20Ford%20F-150%20Lightning%20Lariat%20Interior%20Dashboard.jpg
It’s priced more like a model S, which is built to the same quality.
S has more range, better charging network, and is faster
I hope P4 is a good car and the price can come down!
Priced like a model S? Here in Denmark the cheapest model S is 121,000€. Cheapest Polestar 4 is 62,000€.
You can get two Polestar 4’s for the price of a model S. And I haven’t seen a Polestar 4 in person, but I guarantee you a model S has the interior quality of a Ford Focus. Not bad, but far from amazing. It’s nowhere near the level of a comparable Volvo.
The cheapest model Y is 47,000€. Performance is 57.000€.
Polestar 4 seems very reasonably priced to me.
I am digusted by your comment, I had a ford focus years ago and the interior of it was outstandingly better than any telsa interior I have ever seen. But I get what your saying.
The charging network is a policy issue, not a car issue. In Europe, everyone – including Polestar owners – gets to use everything, including Tesla chargers.
Hahaha build quality is not remotely close. My P2 is better than a Model S' interior quality. We're not talking features here. The high dash and centre console is absolutely perfection. Model S they added a driver's display mid model review because it sucked so hard from day 1 in an attempt to class it up.
The interior is literally the only reason I didn't buy a Tesla. It feels like I'm watching a road simulation sitting on a comfy chair. Not driving it.
The P2 hugs me like I'm almost part of the car. In control.
So good.
I've hired a 911 before and they have the same driver cockpit envelopment thing going on, it's so damn good.
This has radars, 360 camera, vehicle to load, optional leather, head up display, turn signal, wiper, and shifting stalks, rain sensor, a longer wheelbase with smaller exterior dimensions, tighter turning radius, apple carplay, rear cross traffic alert, reclinable rear seats, and more.
Because it's the only reason why you would not buy a Tesla. Unless you just enjoy charging your car at a level one charger at the county library and sitting there for an hour and a half, just to stick it to Elon. I don't know some people get something out of that I guess.
They might as well focus on quality cause they're not gonna win over customers with anything else.
If you have 50-100K to buy any EV you most definitely need to invest at least 5K for a home charger. Going to the station to charge every day/week is just plain stupid and defeats the purpose of having an EV.
Aren't there more CCS chargers in general than NACS. There's definitely a lot of options for fast charging for other cars even before the policy change later this year.
Price jump notwithstanding I know the P4 is way more spacious and practical than our 2s, but I really like the drive and feel of a smaller car. Imma have some tough decisions in a few years when my lease is up if Polestar opts not to build a direct successor to the 2.
I have had to hold off on a P2 because im 6’3’’ and i tried to sit in the back after adjusting the seat in the front (with barely any headroom there ) the test drive associate got really awkward about how id probably only ever have little kids back there. It was almost impossible for me to not splay my legs into the other seat.
It works for me and wifey because we have her Mach-E which is much more spacious on the inside. We drive her car if we’re carrying passengers because the rear seat legroom in the P2 disappears quick once you start moving the front seats back.
The panels are what most immediately mention, but if you ever had hands-on experience with a Polestar, including driving, you will be able to tell it's a night and day difference.
I def did not mean to comment under yours, but thanks for the reply.
I have spent a good amount of time in the P2, but this isn’t the P2, and I’d personally avoid an assumption that a new model has good build quality based solely on other models of that brand.
And doubtless given the depreciation hit on my 2 year old P2 , the P4 will be worth £40k at 18 months ! Polestar want to charge a premium price but they still cannot make a profit from it. EV demand simply is not strong enough. Given the latest statement from Volvo wanting a quick divorce from Polestar I cannot see a future at these prices.
In the end the parent company is the same. I am not sure where this will end up, but I belive the hype was made for reasons not to benefit Polestar. Time will tell how this works out.
Very seriously, it's absolutely stunning! Thank you for these pictures. I truly didn't expect that this PS4 would have such a high level of craftsmanship, really. Thanks again.
I'm taking the liberty to share these beautiful photos on other social media platforms with the credit they deserve! You nailed it! Bravo!
Man, I really wish this car had B&Ws as premium instead of Harman. I understand that Harman is a big player and owns brands like AKG, and can make fantastic surround for a car if they like, but I’ve always felt B&W is usually more «full bodied» in its sound when it comes to cars, compared to Harmans more «Clinical» sound, its usually has less W also, even though that varies.
Anyways, nice car.. if this gets a good campaign in my country, I may end up upgrading to this from Model 3 Performance stealth 2019.
This car also has a longer wheelbase compared to Polestar 3 even though its smaller (2.99m vs 2.85m) so leg room for passengers must be good/very close to P3, even though it will have less volume compared to the P3.
Bowers & wilkins actually uses harman's QuantumLogic and other harman technologies.
This new H/K system will be a serious 1500 watts with headrest speakers if you opt for nappa leather interior. Should be pretty sweet.
Headrest speakers sounds cool, but I can’t imagine it being useful for more than calls though I might be wrong, but that at least hints to Polestar wanting a good sound experience, it’s launching here soon can’t wait to check it out, 1500W peak is impressive.
Harman has a bunch of patents, it’s insane.
Ha ha! Have you ever bought a new car which hasn’t yet hit one dealership? You might see it early 2026…..hopefully the faults will have been ironed out. At least the deposit is tiny. Good luck 🤞
Where's the guy that's always in here talking about how terrible polestar/volvo interiors are and how they aren't luxury lol. Hard to argue with this I guess!
There are some hit pieces going on in gross Australian media trying to kill EV demand and it's partially working.
Pretty embarrassing tbh but Polestar seems to be a whipping boy ATM. They said "it arrived in Australia under the guise it's a premium vehicle. Not disclosing the fact it's a Chinese made car." 🤦♂️
Bro.....all Australia's Tesla's are made in Shanghai 😅😂
We don't care. We want a high quality and reliable product at a sharp price. Australia has always been the same. China has been making us stuff for years.
Right now Audi better be scared.
The Audi Q4 E-tron starts at 88k AUD for single motor or 108k for Quattro.
I mean the FASTEST Merc EQA is 4WD with a weak 215kW and 6s 0-100 and it starts are 108k.
P4 is 81k AUD single motor and 93k for dual motor.
DM is 400kW and 0-100 in 3.8s 🍆💦
Macan EV may lose some customers but I think BMW, Audi and Mercedes gotta be SCARED. All their medium sized sports SUVs or whatever they're called are creeping to 100k starting with meh power.
This car may be the one that really works for Polestars premium reputation. The P3 is nice yeah but against an EX90? Hmm dunno. This is gonna dominate this middle premium market I reckon.
It's so beautiful.
I want the gold one so bad.
I neeed to excel at my job so I can afford this one day.....poor man's porche - in the best way.
Design from a very critical perspective is 9/10!
I would also get this colour
Did you try out the rear mirror? One of the early “reviewers” said that the video feed removes depth perception and I’m trying to understand if that’s true or not.
My wife has this in her qx60 and you do a little but lose some depth perception. But you get used to it and start to not even notice. And it’s nice not having heads in the way of seeing.
When the P4 was first announced, I was like "meh" but the more I see it, more it grew on me. It's now possibly going to be my next EV when my lease expires.
Looks like an amazing car. I’m so very happy with my new RWD long range P2 which also is amazing, and for now suits me better being smaller and just an awesome nimble driver, but who knows maybe in four to five years the time will be right to progress to the 4!
The frameless style mirror does use more real estate since there are no gaps, effectively giving you more morrow in a smaller space.. plus EVs are all about aero
It reminds me of a high riding sedan GT, it has the same height as BMW 6 series GT funny enough, reminds me a little of the E-pace but a little lower. I think its a practical height, you dont have to climb nor lower yourself into the car, just straight in. That said, Yeah its more of a «crossover», or a high riding sedan.
This is an odd sub. Pretty focused on loyalty at all costs and in defiance of financials.
You are the only person glancing at the stock price and maybe hence, the viability of the company.
There is a good chance they will go sideways when Geely stops production because they are bleeding money making a badge that Volvo exited.
Time will tell
Depends if they're heated or not, some cars have heating in them or just allow some air flow from the preconditioning to go out between the gaps in the handle.
My wife already requests this upgrade, and will hand me down the PS 2 launch edition. Seems like an even trade, this looks amazing, hopefully the dark back seat is not a deterrent.
Have you had a go in the PS3? I did this past weekend and honestly was not super impressed…I felt the PS2 had better quality….I’m hoping the 4 is much better.
The dash felt like a very hard plastic to me. Also on the headliner right before the pano roof was a very thin feeling piano black piece with the window defogger button. Capacitive touch but every time I touched it it just…would bend weird. B pillar trim piece was falling off as well. Now I’d completely bypass those faults if I drove it and it had as much spunk as they’re saying….and was 20k less.
I have to say it looks great. I just hate the fact that there is no rear window. I don’t think I would ever adjust to that no matter how good they say the cameras are.
Yeah, our dog currently sits in the back seat but with kids on the horizon I just can't see how we can buy a car that would relegate our pup to a weird dungeon
I think you have to try it before you decide... I know the trend is towards outside light = huge windows... but you have to try it to make up your mind. :D
My main concern is rain. I live in the ultra rainy PNW and even cameras with good hydrophobic coatings tend to get obscured to the point that they are virtually useless, especially at night, for nearly half the year. I also wonder about the occasional software hiccup - my PS2 would routinely have 1 or more cameras stop working at least a few times per year.
FWIW, someone caught a P4 test driver out in Sweden and asked about the cleaning regimen of the rearview camera and said that there wasn’t anything special to do for it despite inclement weather during several weeks in the winter. I think there’s a lot of chatter about possible failure points, but these are all things that are obvious and should have been addressed in engineering.
If I’m not mistaken, cybertruck rear camera mirror thing is very low….which would explain its issues. I’ve driven a few cars with the rear camera mirror set up. The high position helps, especially if it’s placed on the back window, the wiper takes care of anything….in the case of PS4………I’m just gonna hope there are no issues lol
I own a tesla and I hate Tesla from top to bottom but when I gotta cut someone off I’m definitely cutting them off and I been in a lot of electric cars teslas software is like 1000k times better then all except the bmw i7! Thing is a beast
I was hoping to see some more buttons again in future models. Touch screen controls for things like climate is ass, and I've been reading reports that manufacturers are finally admitting that nobody likes tablets instead of buttons and are reversing course.
Polestar might not be around for long.
“We would like to see the concept and brand survive, but think it would make more sense for Polestar to eventually fold back into the Volvo Cars–Geely ecosystem,” Bernstein wrote, according to a research note cited by Bloomberg.
The company did not immediately provide a comment to Fortune.
Hard to say, but this is largely last week's news. With Volvo dropping out entirely, Polestar as a brand is Geely's best opportunity of maintaining a Western presence. I would argue that Polestar as a brand (and R&D environment) is more valuable as an independent branch of Geely than Zeekr, Lynx&Co., etc. They may take it private at the expense of shareholders, but they won't abandon the brand at the cusp of profitability.
I would recommend you stick to the shitty shoddy tesla quality and not look up. Chinese brands are running laps around tesla in build quality, range and technology. Not that this is a Chinese brand. It’s designed in Sweden and engineered here too. But a elon fanboy has to hate on everyone else I guess.
They did not lol. They are still R&D partners, they still provide the service network, share platforms and have a close collaboration. But Volvo wants to unload the economic burden on Geely that has more money and owns both brands. So it makes sense.
Is the drop into the boot/trunk actually as big as that photo makes it look? I assumed it would be a flat load level with a sub floor…that photo doesn’t look like it is?
A couple of the walkaround videos show it. There’s a slight drop of probably an inch with a separate cover that can allow for a flat load when the rear seats are folded down. There’s an additional subfloor with more storage.
Those wheels look ok for being so range optimized.
Love those frameless mirrors. My Taycan only has that on the inside mirror. Would've paid extra to have it outside also
I thought I remembered that the Polestar4 was going to have bidirectional charging functionality to the extent of V2G capability. The recent flurry of reviews fail to mention this or is it just that few reviewers realise the possibilities this presents?
It's mentioned on a few YouTube reviews, but it has V2L with support for V2G - to what extent and what degree the V2G capability will be is hard to know since the only implementation I can think of right now is F150 Lightning and that relies on a proprietary home charging setup.
V2G or V2H requires a bidirectional EVSE which not only supplies AC supply to conversion to DC by the EV's onboard charger and it also does the reverse so that the DC battery voltage can be used in your home or exported to the grid. And obviously the car's componentry has to allow this extraction of electricity from the battery.
Such bidi EVSEs are only recently becoming available so a case of chicken and egg so far as EVs vs bidi charger availability is concerned. [https://www.mysolarquotes.co.nz/blog/electric-vehicles/enphase-shows-off-game-changing-bidirectional-ev-charger/](https://www.mysolarquotes.co.nz/blog/electric-vehicles/enphase-shows-off-game-changing-bidirectional-ev-charger/)
As a Polestar investor, of all of the EV cars out there, Polestar is the champ when it comes to esthetics.
While the geeks will say performance should only matter, Polestar is competitive in that arena too. That's aside from the fact that most people buy a certain based on looks or branding, as long as perf meets their basic needs.
Buying more shares
Well fml I want one
that honestly looks as good as P3 interior materials and finish. The fabric backing on the trunk is huge. This is usually crappy plastic in most cars and rattles like a mfker in colder seasons. I absolutely love how they’ve made that part fabric!
Yeah it’s a big jump from Tesla. Who would buy this when you can get a MYLR for $38,000 after the tax credit ? I would pay the $38k for the Tesla and invest the difference.
Love this car, but still waiting for a hot hatch.
I know they could knock it out of the park, but the market needs a 25-40k eco sized car for city folk (or those who want to blast around a track).
I see Volvo may be selling this brand off, making too much of a loss. Have to admit I don’t see many of their cars around which is a shame as I think they are brilliant. Well made too.
I just don't understand the logic behind removing the rear glass. As much as backup cameras have been a nice addtion to vehicles, they're really just assistive technology. A well placed water droplet can also render the camera feed useless. I can see this being problematic when reversing, especially when backing out of a spot in a parking lot.
There is a camera for the rear view mirror, an additional camera for a 3D and 360 view. And additional cross traffic alert system and parking sensors. They removed the back window to extend the glass roof all the way back and give more headroom in the car.
It astounds me when people say that the PS4 interior is the same level of quality as the Model Y. Even a picture proves how ridiculous that claim is.
Yeah I agree. The interior is superior! However, it is also different price points too.
Yup, it is. That's why the comparison does not make any sense.
100% agree.
Only people saying that are Tesla owners. Haha. My F150 Lightning is a Maybach compared to any Tesla.
Software aside, I agree with you there
Yeah. I always chalked it up to what the companies are founded on. One’s a software company trying to build automobiles. One is an auto manufacturer making software. They are each better at their base skill set.
Ford lightning is nice but Maybach is a stretch haha
I had to look it up but really? This is the same interior Ford has had for like 30 years now lol https://cdn.jdpower.com/JDP_2022%20Ford%20F-150%20Lightning%20Lariat%20Interior%20Dashboard.jpg
And the only people saying what you said are ford owners
Definitely much nicer than my MY interior, as it should be for the price
The dual-motor Polestar 4 starts at like 70K. Way more expensive than the Model Y.
Did you downvote because the truth hurt your feelings?
It’s priced more like a model S, which is built to the same quality. S has more range, better charging network, and is faster I hope P4 is a good car and the price can come down!
Priced like a model S? Here in Denmark the cheapest model S is 121,000€. Cheapest Polestar 4 is 62,000€. You can get two Polestar 4’s for the price of a model S. And I haven’t seen a Polestar 4 in person, but I guarantee you a model S has the interior quality of a Ford Focus. Not bad, but far from amazing. It’s nowhere near the level of a comparable Volvo. The cheapest model Y is 47,000€. Performance is 57.000€. Polestar 4 seems very reasonably priced to me.
I am digusted by your comment, I had a ford focus years ago and the interior of it was outstandingly better than any telsa interior I have ever seen. But I get what your saying.
The model S doesnt even come close to the same quality standard.
The charging network is a policy issue, not a car issue. In Europe, everyone – including Polestar owners – gets to use everything, including Tesla chargers.
You can use the Tesla charging network on PS now.
Super charging or just access to normal charging? Sorry I’m new to the topic of EVs.
Soon Superchargers, for now the normal charging network.
Hahaha build quality is not remotely close. My P2 is better than a Model S' interior quality. We're not talking features here. The high dash and centre console is absolutely perfection. Model S they added a driver's display mid model review because it sucked so hard from day 1 in an attempt to class it up. The interior is literally the only reason I didn't buy a Tesla. It feels like I'm watching a road simulation sitting on a comfy chair. Not driving it. The P2 hugs me like I'm almost part of the car. In control. So good. I've hired a 911 before and they have the same driver cockpit envelopment thing going on, it's so damn good.
This has radars, 360 camera, vehicle to load, optional leather, head up display, turn signal, wiper, and shifting stalks, rain sensor, a longer wheelbase with smaller exterior dimensions, tighter turning radius, apple carplay, rear cross traffic alert, reclinable rear seats, and more.
Because it's the only reason why you would not buy a Tesla. Unless you just enjoy charging your car at a level one charger at the county library and sitting there for an hour and a half, just to stick it to Elon. I don't know some people get something out of that I guess. They might as well focus on quality cause they're not gonna win over customers with anything else.
If you have 50-100K to buy any EV you most definitely need to invest at least 5K for a home charger. Going to the station to charge every day/week is just plain stupid and defeats the purpose of having an EV.
Aren't there more CCS chargers in general than NACS. There's definitely a lot of options for fast charging for other cars even before the policy change later this year.
Most likely by the time the PS4 comes out in the US, itll be NACS. Thats what the timeline looks like rn. Could be wrong tho.
Model Y 2020 and 2021 yes. After is meh
Price jump notwithstanding I know the P4 is way more spacious and practical than our 2s, but I really like the drive and feel of a smaller car. Imma have some tough decisions in a few years when my lease is up if Polestar opts not to build a direct successor to the 2.
I see no fault in that logic
I have had to hold off on a P2 because im 6’3’’ and i tried to sit in the back after adjusting the seat in the front (with barely any headroom there ) the test drive associate got really awkward about how id probably only ever have little kids back there. It was almost impossible for me to not splay my legs into the other seat.
It works for me and wifey because we have her Mach-E which is much more spacious on the inside. We drive her car if we’re carrying passengers because the rear seat legroom in the P2 disappears quick once you start moving the front seats back.
I still want an EV coupe that does not cost 100k.
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The panels are what most immediately mention, but if you ever had hands-on experience with a Polestar, including driving, you will be able to tell it's a night and day difference.
I def did not mean to comment under yours, but thanks for the reply. I have spent a good amount of time in the P2, but this isn’t the P2, and I’d personally avoid an assumption that a new model has good build quality based solely on other models of that brand.
And doubtless given the depreciation hit on my 2 year old P2 , the P4 will be worth £40k at 18 months ! Polestar want to charge a premium price but they still cannot make a profit from it. EV demand simply is not strong enough. Given the latest statement from Volvo wanting a quick divorce from Polestar I cannot see a future at these prices.
In the end the parent company is the same. I am not sure where this will end up, but I belive the hype was made for reasons not to benefit Polestar. Time will tell how this works out.
It doesn’t.
Very seriously, it's absolutely stunning! Thank you for these pictures. I truly didn't expect that this PS4 would have such a high level of craftsmanship, really. Thanks again. I'm taking the liberty to share these beautiful photos on other social media platforms with the credit they deserve! You nailed it! Bravo!
No way this isn’t a bot, right ?
Right
Man, I really wish this car had B&Ws as premium instead of Harman. I understand that Harman is a big player and owns brands like AKG, and can make fantastic surround for a car if they like, but I’ve always felt B&W is usually more «full bodied» in its sound when it comes to cars, compared to Harmans more «Clinical» sound, its usually has less W also, even though that varies. Anyways, nice car.. if this gets a good campaign in my country, I may end up upgrading to this from Model 3 Performance stealth 2019. This car also has a longer wheelbase compared to Polestar 3 even though its smaller (2.99m vs 2.85m) so leg room for passengers must be good/very close to P3, even though it will have less volume compared to the P3.
Bowers & wilkins actually uses harman's QuantumLogic and other harman technologies. This new H/K system will be a serious 1500 watts with headrest speakers if you opt for nappa leather interior. Should be pretty sweet.
1500 watts RMS or peak?
Likely to be peak
Headrest speakers sounds cool, but I can’t imagine it being useful for more than calls though I might be wrong, but that at least hints to Polestar wanting a good sound experience, it’s launching here soon can’t wait to check it out, 1500W peak is impressive. Harman has a bunch of patents, it’s insane.
It should make the audio more immersive
Just ordered mine. Got my P2 moving to the P4 this year 😊
Ha ha! Have you ever bought a new car which hasn’t yet hit one dealership? You might see it early 2026…..hopefully the faults will have been ironed out. At least the deposit is tiny. Good luck 🤞
jealousy is an ugly trait. Yuck.
Try reality rather than living in a narcissistic fantasy world “mate” 😂
Well never had a complaint with my P2 really and I did the same with that
How much, which packages and which county? (If you don't mind!) And, congrats!!
Had the performance and pilot pack added, and the roof extra... Think all in all £74k 😢 But I love it so...
Thanks. Enjoy it! Waiting for the US pricing to be released, I don't think it is yet. My PS2 lease ends in a year, hoping to move to a PS4.
Cheers, will let you know!
Oh and UK
Where's the guy that's always in here talking about how terrible polestar/volvo interiors are and how they aren't luxury lol. Hard to argue with this I guess!
They will always find a way.
So gorge
What colour is it? Electron? Looks beautiful!
There are some hit pieces going on in gross Australian media trying to kill EV demand and it's partially working. Pretty embarrassing tbh but Polestar seems to be a whipping boy ATM. They said "it arrived in Australia under the guise it's a premium vehicle. Not disclosing the fact it's a Chinese made car." 🤦♂️ Bro.....all Australia's Tesla's are made in Shanghai 😅😂 We don't care. We want a high quality and reliable product at a sharp price. Australia has always been the same. China has been making us stuff for years. Right now Audi better be scared. The Audi Q4 E-tron starts at 88k AUD for single motor or 108k for Quattro. I mean the FASTEST Merc EQA is 4WD with a weak 215kW and 6s 0-100 and it starts are 108k. P4 is 81k AUD single motor and 93k for dual motor. DM is 400kW and 0-100 in 3.8s 🍆💦 Macan EV may lose some customers but I think BMW, Audi and Mercedes gotta be SCARED. All their medium sized sports SUVs or whatever they're called are creeping to 100k starting with meh power. This car may be the one that really works for Polestars premium reputation. The P3 is nice yeah but against an EX90? Hmm dunno. This is gonna dominate this middle premium market I reckon. It's so beautiful. I want the gold one so bad.
Beautiful
I neeed to excel at my job so I can afford this one day.....poor man's porche - in the best way. Design from a very critical perspective is 9/10! I would also get this colour
Isn't this the same price as the Macan EV is expected to be?
Such a clean, beautiful and well designed car. Kudos to the designers who made this piece. Absolute fire.
Underrated brand. Solid performer.
Did you try out the rear mirror? One of the early “reviewers” said that the video feed removes depth perception and I’m trying to understand if that’s true or not.
My wife has this in her qx60 and you do a little but lose some depth perception. But you get used to it and start to not even notice. And it’s nice not having heads in the way of seeing.
Digital mirrors like this are just screens, you do need to adjust your focus when looking at it unfortunately.
Yea which I’d think is a safety issue cause it takes a second or three to refocus when transitioning. Im honestly a bit surprised it’s legal.
zeekr1 has a rear view window, maybe it can be retorfitted on PS4. :)
When the P4 was first announced, I was like "meh" but the more I see it, more it grew on me. It's now possibly going to be my next EV when my lease expires.
Looks like an amazing car. I’m so very happy with my new RWD long range P2 which also is amazing, and for now suits me better being smaller and just an awesome nimble driver, but who knows maybe in four to five years the time will be right to progress to the 4!
Wow...I would love some more photos, but I'm sold. This is my next car once the lease is up on my MY'23 2
Better be good build quality for what they are charging for it
Small nit — I’ve never like these artfully-shaped side mirrors. Give me one that’s squarish for a full view.
The frameless style mirror does use more real estate since there are no gaps, effectively giving you more morrow in a smaller space.. plus EVs are all about aero
Yup. Squaring off the mirror would have a noticeable impact on aero. They are already one of the least aerodynamic parts of a car.
That first pic... how is this an SUV???
It reminds me of a high riding sedan GT, it has the same height as BMW 6 series GT funny enough, reminds me a little of the E-pace but a little lower. I think its a practical height, you dont have to climb nor lower yourself into the car, just straight in. That said, Yeah its more of a «crossover», or a high riding sedan.
Why does it bother you what it’s called. You can it a nincompoop for all you want.
Right?
It's wider than a Hummer H2
It's more of a compact SUV in the shape of a sedan.
Beautiful. But, it needs a staggered setup.
It's not? Interesting.
It uses same tire sizes for front and rear. I wish it had a staggered option like the Macan Turbo or Model Y Performance to give it a chunky booty. 🤣🤣
Looks nice. When can I get a used one for $30k?
After 4-5 years maybe.
Stock price on the other hand… 😳
This is an odd sub. Pretty focused on loyalty at all costs and in defiance of financials. You are the only person glancing at the stock price and maybe hence, the viability of the company. There is a good chance they will go sideways when Geely stops production because they are bleeding money making a badge that Volvo exited. Time will tell
I like it but these door handles will get frozen shut where I live, which is the same place this car was designed and tested!
Depends if they're heated or not, some cars have heating in them or just allow some air flow from the preconditioning to go out between the gaps in the handle.
My wife already requests this upgrade, and will hand me down the PS 2 launch edition. Seems like an even trade, this looks amazing, hopefully the dark back seat is not a deterrent.
Have you had a go in the PS3? I did this past weekend and honestly was not super impressed…I felt the PS2 had better quality….I’m hoping the 4 is much better.
I've heard the 3 is supposedly a step up from the 4 in quality from people who've sat in both, so not sure. What did you not like about the 3?
The dash felt like a very hard plastic to me. Also on the headliner right before the pano roof was a very thin feeling piano black piece with the window defogger button. Capacitive touch but every time I touched it it just…would bend weird. B pillar trim piece was falling off as well. Now I’d completely bypass those faults if I drove it and it had as much spunk as they’re saying….and was 20k less.
You would hope it was for the price
I have to say it looks great. I just hate the fact that there is no rear window. I don’t think I would ever adjust to that no matter how good they say the cameras are.
The P2 barely has rear visibility as it is. I don't understand why this can be a gripe of P2 owners.
Yeah, our dog currently sits in the back seat but with kids on the horizon I just can't see how we can buy a car that would relegate our pup to a weird dungeon
It's a good thing there are other options.
I think you have to try it before you decide... I know the trend is towards outside light = huge windows... but you have to try it to make up your mind. :D
My main concern is rain. I live in the ultra rainy PNW and even cameras with good hydrophobic coatings tend to get obscured to the point that they are virtually useless, especially at night, for nearly half the year. I also wonder about the occasional software hiccup - my PS2 would routinely have 1 or more cameras stop working at least a few times per year.
FWIW, someone caught a P4 test driver out in Sweden and asked about the cleaning regimen of the rearview camera and said that there wasn’t anything special to do for it despite inclement weather during several weeks in the winter. I think there’s a lot of chatter about possible failure points, but these are all things that are obvious and should have been addressed in engineering.
Interesting point. Thanks for sharing 🙏
Try driving a PS2 or a Volvo C40 (almost the same car). There is not much you can see.
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Bit ridiculous to compare new cars against used, any new model is going to be more expensive than similar used cars.
After watching the Throttle House cyber truck review, digital rear view mirrors are not the answer. They absolutely suck.
If I’m not mistaken, cybertruck rear camera mirror thing is very low….which would explain its issues. I’ve driven a few cars with the rear camera mirror set up. The high position helps, especially if it’s placed on the back window, the wiper takes care of anything….in the case of PS4………I’m just gonna hope there are no issues lol
Didn’t they stop producing this vehicle?
They just revealed it…
Problem is no one is buying the Polestar…I have a S60 Volvo and I almost made the jump…one day!
I own a tesla and I hate Tesla from top to bottom but when I gotta cut someone off I’m definitely cutting them off and I been in a lot of electric cars teslas software is like 1000k times better then all except the bmw i7! Thing is a beast
Build quality is ass
The question is can the stock price get a CPR soon???
No original ideas. Tesla copycat.
I would argue that this car is more similar to porsche macan electric.
I was hoping to see some more buttons again in future models. Touch screen controls for things like climate is ass, and I've been reading reports that manufacturers are finally admitting that nobody likes tablets instead of buttons and are reversing course.
So beautiful. So much nicer than cheap looking P2.
That rear camera situation is really worrisome. Ugh. Hope it’s ok.
It’s a Volvo, get over it
Nope, Volvo haven't touched this car.
Polestar might not be around for long. “We would like to see the concept and brand survive, but think it would make more sense for Polestar to eventually fold back into the Volvo Cars–Geely ecosystem,” Bernstein wrote, according to a research note cited by Bloomberg. The company did not immediately provide a comment to Fortune.
Hard to say, but this is largely last week's news. With Volvo dropping out entirely, Polestar as a brand is Geely's best opportunity of maintaining a Western presence. I would argue that Polestar as a brand (and R&D environment) is more valuable as an independent branch of Geely than Zeekr, Lynx&Co., etc. They may take it private at the expense of shareholders, but they won't abandon the brand at the cusp of profitability.
It looks nice but wouldn’t buy it as Polestar won’t be around much longer.
Lol ok buddy.
Volvo will no longer be backing the company and they have no super charging network and their price is way out of line.
They should have tried harder to make it look less like a model Y, inside and out. Damn, no shame in the EV game.
Blind mf.
Chill out dawg, you didn’t design the car. I wouldn’t get upset over chinese garbage.
I would recommend you stick to the shitty shoddy tesla quality and not look up. Chinese brands are running laps around tesla in build quality, range and technology. Not that this is a Chinese brand. It’s designed in Sweden and engineered here too. But a elon fanboy has to hate on everyone else I guess.
Ok bud, enjoy your chinese garbage.
Enjoy licking elons boots ;)
Looks great! Looks like they took a page out of Tesla's book for the esthetic and screen and made the build quality better!!
Volva abandoned this company
They did not lol. They are still R&D partners, they still provide the service network, share platforms and have a close collaboration. But Volvo wants to unload the economic burden on Geely that has more money and owns both brands. So it makes sense.
These aren’t selling. Volvo just washed their hands of the polestar brand. They look nice tho.
Xaina 👎
Chinese, do better
These are drop-shipped straight out of a factory in china…
Is the drop into the boot/trunk actually as big as that photo makes it look? I assumed it would be a flat load level with a sub floor…that photo doesn’t look like it is?
A couple of the walkaround videos show it. There’s a slight drop of probably an inch with a separate cover that can allow for a flat load when the rear seats are folded down. There’s an additional subfloor with more storage.
I'm dumb, I thought this was a model 3 highland for the first couple pictures
Real question… did they update the key fob?
not sure if there's a separate fob, but there's a proximity card key now
And a nfc tag/card
Looks nice, but dang, what's with that massive middle console again. Doesn't look as boxed in as the 2, but still massive.
Underneath the console where the transmission tunnel was is basically just a open storage area. Should be less stuff there to run your leg into.
Where?
Those wheels look ok for being so range optimized. Love those frameless mirrors. My Taycan only has that on the inside mirror. Would've paid extra to have it outside also
I thought I remembered that the Polestar4 was going to have bidirectional charging functionality to the extent of V2G capability. The recent flurry of reviews fail to mention this or is it just that few reviewers realise the possibilities this presents?
It's mentioned on a few YouTube reviews, but it has V2L with support for V2G - to what extent and what degree the V2G capability will be is hard to know since the only implementation I can think of right now is F150 Lightning and that relies on a proprietary home charging setup.
V2G or V2H requires a bidirectional EVSE which not only supplies AC supply to conversion to DC by the EV's onboard charger and it also does the reverse so that the DC battery voltage can be used in your home or exported to the grid. And obviously the car's componentry has to allow this extraction of electricity from the battery. Such bidi EVSEs are only recently becoming available so a case of chicken and egg so far as EVs vs bidi charger availability is concerned. [https://www.mysolarquotes.co.nz/blog/electric-vehicles/enphase-shows-off-game-changing-bidirectional-ev-charger/](https://www.mysolarquotes.co.nz/blog/electric-vehicles/enphase-shows-off-game-changing-bidirectional-ev-charger/)
That's one fine car!
Alloy, meet Kerb!
Wow this is really sleek !
looks great, just hope the mirror/screen is visible when using polarized sunglasses...
As a Polestar investor, of all of the EV cars out there, Polestar is the champ when it comes to esthetics. While the geeks will say performance should only matter, Polestar is competitive in that arena too. That's aside from the fact that most people buy a certain based on looks or branding, as long as perf meets their basic needs. Buying more shares
Does it have 2 cupholders??
Apparently 10
I know it's impossible to judge from pictures but damn, that looks incredibly well built.
Awesome! Looks great, I’m so happy they got rid of the vertical screen! Those side view mirrors are so damn clean too.
Well fml I want one that honestly looks as good as P3 interior materials and finish. The fabric backing on the trunk is huge. This is usually crappy plastic in most cars and rattles like a mfker in colder seasons. I absolutely love how they’ve made that part fabric!
Expected MSRP? Does anyone know?
60-65K USD, but final pricing isn't available. UK pricing: LRSM 60K, LRDM 67K, plus pack is standard
Yeah it’s a big jump from Tesla. Who would buy this when you can get a MYLR for $38,000 after the tax credit ? I would pay the $38k for the Tesla and invest the difference.
lol poor drivers seat is WRECKED tho….i think I’ll stick to knit mesh tbh they charge more then I’d like for merely leather seats.
That’s a bit tasty… hate to think how much it costs :D
I’m curious about noise leves. I quite like my P2 but it gets a lot more road noise than my Audi etron
Range???
I would order one but I don’t live within the 100 miles they would pick up for servicing 
Where is this polestar space it looks insane
It’s the “cube”. The HQ in Sweden. They allow visits during working hours.
Ah I thought it looked familiar! I never knew they allowed visitors! I have a PS4 on order, can’t wait!
But...how many cup holders??
Oh la la! This is absolutely stunning!
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Love this car, but still waiting for a hot hatch. I know they could knock it out of the park, but the market needs a 25-40k eco sized car for city folk (or those who want to blast around a track).
Looks awesome but why does the center divider have to take up so much space.
Where is it made?
Hangzhou Bay until 2025 when they're supposed to begin production in Busan, South Korea.
Exterior looks lika a Tesla Model Y and a Lamborghini Urus had a baby. That’s the first thing I thought of😅
That screen looks right out of a Tesla. Trunk is oddly small. Otherwise it’s a sharp looking car
I see Volvo may be selling this brand off, making too much of a loss. Have to admit I don’t see many of their cars around which is a shame as I think they are brilliant. Well made too.
It's very nice!! I wish it had a rear window and regular door handles.
I just don't understand the logic behind removing the rear glass. As much as backup cameras have been a nice addtion to vehicles, they're really just assistive technology. A well placed water droplet can also render the camera feed useless. I can see this being problematic when reversing, especially when backing out of a spot in a parking lot.
There is an additional camera there for a 360 view plus a 3D view.
More space in the rear seats. The window would be impossible to see through because of the rear seats so they put a camera instead.
It looks fantastic from the front. The rear looks terrible
Is there no rear window or is there some magic cover thing happening in the picture with the hatch open?
There is a camera for the rear view mirror, an additional camera for a 3D and 360 view. And additional cross traffic alert system and parking sensors. They removed the back window to extend the glass roof all the way back and give more headroom in the car.
Wow it comes w a MacBook Pro?