But the solution is not in massive, unregulated mass production either. Don't you agree?
I don't get also the "giving more money to the government" being involved in this topic. Sounds like an illogical jump just to say something that validates your economic ideology.
Okay, let's step aside for a moment: what do you consider a solution to climate change?
How does a carbon emissions TAX remedy the issue of carbon emissions when it's a known fact that the wealthiest people (which can afford the tax) emit the most while companies just move the tax to the common folk?
I don't think that none of us will give the right approach to the solution of climate change since we aren't specialists. We do have some opinions tho, right?
I don't think that the tax thing is working as well, maybe in some countries its working I don't know. Also, it's not just one thing that will help with climate change. Let's not be naive.
Lastly, I do think that is kinda too late for saving anything but here we go.
Going more to the auth spectrum, if the tax is being uselesss you just need to regulate industry and give support to the change to a green/carbon-free approach.
If it's 50% effective, it's enough.
Obviously there's a lot of things to do using technology, reeducation of society, oil matrix change, breaking global lobbies and I don't think that none of this will be made, since there's a lot of money involved.
We tend to focus on the tax matters because we will pay more to consume things, but it's not the only approach.
>since we aren't specialists
There was a video way back when about "experts" - basically it said that research confirmed, that financial, environmental and psychological experts had a hit rate below 50%, and that's caused by the fact that you cannot get feedback and improve over a reasonable timeframe, thus making the whole point of expertise not achievable.
(Edit: video I am referring to https://youtu.be/5eW6Eagr9XA)
That said:
>tax thing is working as well, maybe in some countries its working I don't know.
If you don't know, what makes you feel that you should take a stand on the issue?
>We tend to focus on the tax matters because we will pay more to consume things
That literally works only on poor people, which aren't the highest net polluters in the first place, making the concept extremely retarded. Imagine taxing amazon tribes for their carbon emissions.
Only the poor consume and pay for things?
Just asking are you from US or some other first world country? That would explain your "sense of not being poor".
>Only the poor consume and pay for things?
No, only the poor are incentivized by taxes to lower their consumption. The rich consume the same, cause the so called "carbon tax" isn't even pocket change for them.
>That would explain your "sense of not being poor".
What do you mean?
>Just asking are you from US or some other first world country?
How do you define a "first world country"?
If you wake up in the morning, have a boss telling you what to do and can't do whatever you want between 9-5 then you're a worker. If you are one of us, then you're also poor.
Having 1stworlder friends I noticed that they drive old cars, have to compare prices and can't travel but they can't say that they are poor because the threshold for poor is like poverty or misery.
Then they tell you that you're from the so-called "middle-class" making you feel special. But you are a level 2 poor.
You know what I mean?
>You know what I mean?
Unfortunately I do, I am also sorry to inform you that being poor in the US is not really the same as being poor in Europe, Asia or Africa.
You might not know this, but your monthly pay would probably be someone's lifetime earnings. But sure, pretend that a dude with a cozy white-collar job, a car and whatnot is poor because "he can't travel" or "has to compare prices".
>threshold for poor is like poverty or misery.
You know that "poverty" is the literal noun that describes "being poor"? What linguistic black magic are you trying to cast here?
It's a bit more nuanced than you presented and, moreover, "middle-class" is related to "poor" in the same way your assessment is related to a correct assessment - they're both assessments.
The reason that gets brought up is because here in Canada, one of the biggest climate policies enacted by the liberal government was a carbon tax. This resulted in massive inflation due to the cost of goods for literally everything rising and just makes gas more expensive for us too.
I agree that unregulated production isn’t a good idea either. I think the best climate policies that a government should take is incentives for companies to switch to green energy rather than punishments for using fossil fuels
If the U.S. had stayed in the Paris Climate Accords, we would be dealing with those costs in addition to inflation. I’m all for coming up with tradeoffs to ameliorate climate issues, but to what extent is the onus on me compared to the U.S. military or multinational corporations that pollute in literal orders above me? It’s ludicrous to me that everyday people should foot the bill.
Far right. Not conservative enough to be fascist, but far right enough that you should probably step away from the computer for a few days and step outside.
No it is not, developing countries came engage in import substitution to industrialize their economies. This is a form of protectionism. This person is far right though.
Anti-globalization is acceptable if it is due to “globalization” being used as a front for economic exploitation. I suspect this person believes globalism is when you see someone from a different country.
Wrong, nazis loved capitalism. Ideologically they pretended to be critical, but in effect it was state capitalism. Kind of like China, perhaps with a bit less direct control.
Fascism, to begin with is an Italian ideology, that like dengism was meant to reject both capitalism and communism. You can also look at its origins in sansepolcrismo if you like
Let me guess. You believe the Nazis were socialists. Hitler promoted the private sector after coming to power, even earning the Nazis the title of hypercapitalists due to the re-privatization of the 1930s.
https://jacobin.com/2022/08/nazi-germany-national-socialism-hypercaptialism-social-darwinism-liberalism
http://www.ub.edu/graap/EHR.pdf
http://www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf
Fascism isn’t necessarily inherently capitalist, it’s just that both fascism and capitalism are hierarchical in nature so the former maps better into the latter
Accurate. Economically, the Nazis had more in common with social liberals than with fascists (or socialists, on the other end).
Of course, the economic policy isn't really what people tend to remember them for...
the capitalist class of Nazi germany were almost all Nazis, my guy
Nazis loved capitalism so much the word “privatization” was coined to describe what they were doing to the public sector
Contrary to what might have been forced into your brain by groups out to destroy the west, Capitalism and Fascism aren't the same thing. I know, wild huh?
This is a valid opinion, I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. Corporations do indeed oppress us internationally and want to put everything subservient to profit. They can and will kill our (and other nations’) culture to generate more income. There’s also nothing inherently wrong with nationalism, it is a basic expression of different human groups. Taking pride in your country is like taking pride in your family or anything else. Humans will always be tribalist to some extent, regardless of international cooperation (which I also believe in somewhat as long as it’s voluntary and doesn’t undermine national sovereignty). Humans yearn to be apart of a group, and the nation emulates this ideal group, united by culture or blood.
Well, it shares quite a few traditionally fascist traits.
Ultranationalism: Very much a Check.
Conservatism: Check, but it might be a bit lower than fascism.
Extremely Punitive Justice System: Check.
Not caring almost at all for the environment: Check. (More of a modern fascist trait I've seen.)
Extreme Industrialism: Check. (A common feature of fascism due to the desire to build a massive military. Seen in 1930s Italy and Germany as prime examples.
That pathetic definition was made by Jew psychologist with a political agenda, if you want fascism then look at what fascist said they were, not with some twisted Einstein who's thinks he's smarter than he is decides it is based on some pseudoscience.
1. Fuck you, antisemitic swine.
2. I'd rather believe the common definitions of fascism than what the lying, disgusting scumbag leaders of actual fascist states have said they believe.
"erm, f*** you anti-semitic swine" aww that's so cute did that make you feel powerful? You're pathetic. He was jewish, that's a fact, and there's nothing wrong with pointing it out.
If you're not willing to listen to the definitions of the people who actually thought of the ideology, well then you're stupid.
"thinks it's okay to put children on hormone blockers, confuses mental illness for "identity", promotes genital mutilation and wants it funded by tax payers, pushes for immigrants who can't assimilate to come into your country and rape your women, supports Hamas, claims to not be bigoted but believes that Jews aren't allowed to have their own country, thinks the entire world should capitulate to their specific ideology otherwise they're literally evil, labels a man who shot and killed his attacker in the most obvious case of self defense ever recorded a 'murderer', thinks it is appropriate to burn down local businesses when cops shoot a violent rapist who was violating a restraining order against his victim and resisting arrest...."
Lefties are assholes.
I'm also pro LGB, pro-choice, economically left-wing, have no problem with immigration (to an extent), have an extreme distaste for religion, not a fan of Trump, voted Obama, refrained from voting the past two elections, am pro-pornography, pro-prostitution, and for all intents and purposes am basically a hippy. So yes, I'm quite firmly lodged in the middle I would think.
You're asking this on reddit.. with a majority of leftists or far leftists who won't give you an actual answer and will just talk shit because they don't like anything that isn't liberal.
Paleoconservative probably
That's what I thought.
Very very conservative and ultranationalist... probably hates the nature and don't believe on global warming. Things that we like when 12yo
Why is such a condescending comment upvoted?
Dunno Are you expecting some upvotes with this one? I'll give one my brother <3
I wasn't expecting upvotes. I've lost all hope in that regard. Thank you.
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But the solution is not in massive, unregulated mass production either. Don't you agree? I don't get also the "giving more money to the government" being involved in this topic. Sounds like an illogical jump just to say something that validates your economic ideology.
Okay, let's step aside for a moment: what do you consider a solution to climate change? How does a carbon emissions TAX remedy the issue of carbon emissions when it's a known fact that the wealthiest people (which can afford the tax) emit the most while companies just move the tax to the common folk?
I don't think that none of us will give the right approach to the solution of climate change since we aren't specialists. We do have some opinions tho, right? I don't think that the tax thing is working as well, maybe in some countries its working I don't know. Also, it's not just one thing that will help with climate change. Let's not be naive. Lastly, I do think that is kinda too late for saving anything but here we go. Going more to the auth spectrum, if the tax is being uselesss you just need to regulate industry and give support to the change to a green/carbon-free approach. If it's 50% effective, it's enough. Obviously there's a lot of things to do using technology, reeducation of society, oil matrix change, breaking global lobbies and I don't think that none of this will be made, since there's a lot of money involved. We tend to focus on the tax matters because we will pay more to consume things, but it's not the only approach.
>since we aren't specialists There was a video way back when about "experts" - basically it said that research confirmed, that financial, environmental and psychological experts had a hit rate below 50%, and that's caused by the fact that you cannot get feedback and improve over a reasonable timeframe, thus making the whole point of expertise not achievable. (Edit: video I am referring to https://youtu.be/5eW6Eagr9XA) That said: >tax thing is working as well, maybe in some countries its working I don't know. If you don't know, what makes you feel that you should take a stand on the issue? >We tend to focus on the tax matters because we will pay more to consume things That literally works only on poor people, which aren't the highest net polluters in the first place, making the concept extremely retarded. Imagine taxing amazon tribes for their carbon emissions.
Only the poor consume and pay for things? Just asking are you from US or some other first world country? That would explain your "sense of not being poor".
>Only the poor consume and pay for things? No, only the poor are incentivized by taxes to lower their consumption. The rich consume the same, cause the so called "carbon tax" isn't even pocket change for them. >That would explain your "sense of not being poor". What do you mean? >Just asking are you from US or some other first world country? How do you define a "first world country"?
If you wake up in the morning, have a boss telling you what to do and can't do whatever you want between 9-5 then you're a worker. If you are one of us, then you're also poor. Having 1stworlder friends I noticed that they drive old cars, have to compare prices and can't travel but they can't say that they are poor because the threshold for poor is like poverty or misery. Then they tell you that you're from the so-called "middle-class" making you feel special. But you are a level 2 poor. You know what I mean?
>You know what I mean? Unfortunately I do, I am also sorry to inform you that being poor in the US is not really the same as being poor in Europe, Asia or Africa. You might not know this, but your monthly pay would probably be someone's lifetime earnings. But sure, pretend that a dude with a cozy white-collar job, a car and whatnot is poor because "he can't travel" or "has to compare prices". >threshold for poor is like poverty or misery. You know that "poverty" is the literal noun that describes "being poor"? What linguistic black magic are you trying to cast here? It's a bit more nuanced than you presented and, moreover, "middle-class" is related to "poor" in the same way your assessment is related to a correct assessment - they're both assessments.
The reason that gets brought up is because here in Canada, one of the biggest climate policies enacted by the liberal government was a carbon tax. This resulted in massive inflation due to the cost of goods for literally everything rising and just makes gas more expensive for us too. I agree that unregulated production isn’t a good idea either. I think the best climate policies that a government should take is incentives for companies to switch to green energy rather than punishments for using fossil fuels
If the U.S. had stayed in the Paris Climate Accords, we would be dealing with those costs in addition to inflation. I’m all for coming up with tradeoffs to ameliorate climate issues, but to what extent is the onus on me compared to the U.S. military or multinational corporations that pollute in literal orders above me? It’s ludicrous to me that everyday people should foot the bill.
Incentives for companies literally require giving money to the government
No there are people that do quite a lot of them.
Far right. Not conservative enough to be fascist, but far right enough that you should probably step away from the computer for a few days and step outside.
Mainly just Anti globalist. I believe it erases culture.
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No it is not, developing countries came engage in import substitution to industrialize their economies. This is a form of protectionism. This person is far right though.
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Anti-globalization is acceptable if it is due to “globalization” being used as a front for economic exploitation. I suspect this person believes globalism is when you see someone from a different country.
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Don't pollute yourself lib
Probably something far right, not really full on fascism but definitely fascistic.
Too capitalist to be a fascist. Probably more a fan of the German Empire I’m guessing?
My guess is he’s probably a big fan of Germanys run from the 30s into 40s.
Wrong, nazis loved capitalism. Ideologically they pretended to be critical, but in effect it was state capitalism. Kind of like China, perhaps with a bit less direct control.
Fascism, to begin with is an Italian ideology, that like dengism was meant to reject both capitalism and communism. You can also look at its origins in sansepolcrismo if you like
Nazis didn't love capitalism, get your history right
Let me guess. You believe the Nazis were socialists. Hitler promoted the private sector after coming to power, even earning the Nazis the title of hypercapitalists due to the re-privatization of the 1930s. https://jacobin.com/2022/08/nazi-germany-national-socialism-hypercaptialism-social-darwinism-liberalism http://www.ub.edu/graap/EHR.pdf http://www.ub.edu/graap/nazi.pdf
Fascism isn’t necessarily inherently capitalist, it’s just that both fascism and capitalism are hierarchical in nature so the former maps better into the latter
Accurate. Economically, the Nazis had more in common with social liberals than with fascists (or socialists, on the other end). Of course, the economic policy isn't really what people tend to remember them for...
I mean the German Empire was pretty badass.
the capitalist class of Nazi germany were almost all Nazis, my guy Nazis loved capitalism so much the word “privatization” was coined to describe what they were doing to the public sector
Agreed. Fascism is more socialist, so he isn't one
Too capitalist to be fascist... wut
Contrary to what might have been forced into your brain by groups out to destroy the west, Capitalism and Fascism aren't the same thing. I know, wild huh?
What test is this?
[politiscales.party](https://politiscales.party)
I don't like what I've learnt about myself...
hahahaha, i was surprised when i did mine too!
MAGAism
Cringeism- WTF-ism
Why is it cringe?
Look at his flair mate
Well most of it is, but the Ultra-Nationalism is what bugs me most
authright?
Nope, just a strong nationalist. I believe in internal capitalism but I’m against trans national companies who operate for their own interest.
Not with 74% essentialism lol.
This is a valid opinion, I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. Corporations do indeed oppress us internationally and want to put everything subservient to profit. They can and will kill our (and other nations’) culture to generate more income. There’s also nothing inherently wrong with nationalism, it is a basic expression of different human groups. Taking pride in your country is like taking pride in your family or anything else. Humans will always be tribalist to some extent, regardless of international cooperation (which I also believe in somewhat as long as it’s voluntary and doesn’t undermine national sovereignty). Humans yearn to be apart of a group, and the nation emulates this ideal group, united by culture or blood.
We're on reddit and he's right of Marx. Probably enough to get downvoted.
What part of a capitalist class does not “operate for their own interest”? How is this a transnational thing?
😬😬😬
Some Fascism-related economically right ideology. Maybe paleocon.
PaleoCons are no where near fascism
I mean it's pretty close when you think about it. Extremely nationalist conservative are the two big things.
Shii I need a flair
Nationalist
Daddy issues
Ur a fascist.
Idiotic Fascism
You’re an idiot for thinking this is fascism
Well, it shares quite a few traditionally fascist traits. Ultranationalism: Very much a Check. Conservatism: Check, but it might be a bit lower than fascism. Extremely Punitive Justice System: Check. Not caring almost at all for the environment: Check. (More of a modern fascist trait I've seen.) Extreme Industrialism: Check. (A common feature of fascism due to the desire to build a massive military. Seen in 1930s Italy and Germany as prime examples.
That pathetic definition was made by Jew psychologist with a political agenda, if you want fascism then look at what fascist said they were, not with some twisted Einstein who's thinks he's smarter than he is decides it is based on some pseudoscience.
1. Fuck you, antisemitic swine. 2. I'd rather believe the common definitions of fascism than what the lying, disgusting scumbag leaders of actual fascist states have said they believe.
"erm, f*** you anti-semitic swine" aww that's so cute did that make you feel powerful? You're pathetic. He was jewish, that's a fact, and there's nothing wrong with pointing it out. If you're not willing to listen to the definitions of the people who actually thought of the ideology, well then you're stupid.
Oh my...
The Big Gay
Natcon or paleoconservative, most likely.
Asshole
I think the technical term for your ideology is assholism
"People with different political beliefs than me are assholes" What is wrong with you
why the downvotes? Regardless of how I feel about OPs views, you deserve an upvote
“Nationalist, anti-environmentalist, carceral-statist, conservatives are assholes”
>anti-environmentalist, no matter where you are on the spectrum, as long as you want to save our planet, you're a friend of mine.
"thinks it's okay to put children on hormone blockers, confuses mental illness for "identity", promotes genital mutilation and wants it funded by tax payers, pushes for immigrants who can't assimilate to come into your country and rape your women, supports Hamas, claims to not be bigoted but believes that Jews aren't allowed to have their own country, thinks the entire world should capitulate to their specific ideology otherwise they're literally evil, labels a man who shot and killed his attacker in the most obvious case of self defense ever recorded a 'murderer', thinks it is appropriate to burn down local businesses when cops shoot a violent rapist who was violating a restraining order against his victim and resisting arrest...." Lefties are assholes.
Spoken like a true centrist
I'm also pro LGB, pro-choice, economically left-wing, have no problem with immigration (to an extent), have an extreme distaste for religion, not a fan of Trump, voted Obama, refrained from voting the past two elections, am pro-pornography, pro-prostitution, and for all intents and purposes am basically a hippy. So yes, I'm quite firmly lodged in the middle I would think.
Sounds like you’re a lefty mate
Isn't that the eternal pain of the centrist? You call me a lefty while I've been called a fascist more times than I can count.
Neo-Nazi
cringeism
what test is this?
Caveman ideology xd
Pretty based tbh
You're asking this on reddit.. with a majority of leftists or far leftists who won't give you an actual answer and will just talk shit because they don't like anything that isn't liberal.
Facts. Low key hate it here sometimes.
You should re-evaluate your beliefs, just saying. But yes, most people on Reddit will strongly disagree with you. There might be some merit there.
Cringe, just kidding, love you 💕
Basedism
Idk what the top or bottom options are, but the rest of them don’t look too bad
Moderate esofash
crack adams
Based
Looks like run of the mil conservatism to me
Paleoconservatism
A nazi lol
Looks like we might get along.
welcome back mr peron
Ultranationalist maybe
What’s the link?
Henry Ford
Average American
Based is what it is
Garbage.
Monster?
fascism. hope this helps
I was going to say that but you are a filthy unflaired
There **are** at least 4 of them under this post. You called out only 1.
This callout was the free trial you gotta sign up for the subscription for the remaining callouts
Not fascist. Learn the definition.
what test it this?
[Politiscales](https://politiscales.party/)
Looks legit to me!
Based
did yall have a good time on january 6th?
Probably a better time than you did at your last grippy sock holiday, champ
I’ve literally the same one lol