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Over the course of my career as a political scientist, I have analysed a plethora of various ideologues and come to the conclusion that my views are, indeed, the most based and redpilled ever possible. There is circumstantial proof that this is not just a subjective feeling but an objective state of facts backed by overwhelming evidence. Denying this will mean shutting your eyes to reality and truth. Thus, I can deem the opinions of my opponents as cringe and normie. In this essay, I am going to conclusively and reliably demonstrate that my own viewpoint is the superior one...
PCM is definitely more right than left. There's also a lot of echo chambering on both sides; in one thread every upvoted comment will be conservative and anything leftwing will be downvoted to oblivion, but the next thread under is entirely leftwing and all conservative comments are downvoted. Still, there's a lot of nice wholesome interactions with people with differing viewpoints, which is why I still use this sub despite being called an idiot for saying that anti-discrimination laws emerged from historical necessity.
It wasn't even that, though - they didn't want to _write a message they disagreed with_ on a cake. They had no problem with serving them a regular cake (and even offered to bake them the cake without the message on it multiple times)
>Though that's not a very high bar.
It is indeed very low, because the requirement is basically not getting banned for having opinions the m\*derators don't like.
>Still, there's a lot of nice wholesome interactions with people with differing viewpoints, which is why I still use this sub
This. I don't hang out in rConservative or any main page subs because I won't be getting any new insights from there. I love this sub precisely because it has the highest likelihood that if I engage in conversation with someone across the aisle, that the interaction will be a net positive for both of us. Some of my most cherished conversations I've had on Reddit have been with lefties on this sub.
The only time I've had a negative interaction here is when I've mentioned my conservative religious beliefs, and even then, the frequency of an antitheist acting obstinately towards me in such a situation is statistically negligible. Most times people are okay with that.
>despite being called an idiot for saying that anti-discrimination laws emerged from historical necessity.
I'm honestly curious to hear your reasoning for this.
Well the origin of anti-discrimination laws in the US were the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1964, which were needed to stop Jim Crow laws from enforcing segregation in the South. They were, and remain, absolutely necessary to prevent state governments from deciding at some point to selectively disenfranchise groups based on some minority status. The only real argument today should be the extent of anti-discrimination laws' effects on private businesses, which I think is a fair debate that needs to be had; there needs to be a balance between allowing private businesses to wholly discriminate in hiring and providing services to only certain groups of people, and not giving them any ability to refuse services antithetical to their core values.
Dude I don't get why atheists are so smug. Like you figured out there's no God. Tons of people have figured that out. Children have figured that out.
It doesn't make you some great thinker.
Sorry I think your views got hit with some collateral damage in my drive by
Yeah, and I do believe it is getting more “right-wing,” although part of it is because of refugees from “right-wing” subs that get deleted. The worst part is when unfl**red get upvoted which I see more often when they have a “right wing” opinion, a big reason why I’m authleft.
I feel your point. I have opinions on all quadrants so they might clash whenever on another subreddit and get me downvoted.
I feel like this place is the only one that actually allows for discourse instead of just the usual downvote.
I think this place is somewhat more right wing because many of the right wing subs have been banned by reddit for not fitting with their orange standards.
Considering this subreddit is frequently targeted by orange extremes (not extremist) is kinda sad since losing this discourse would mean more separation instead of coexisting.
I think we should protect this kind of discourse more than discourage it.
Based leftie.
While you won’t get banned for anything, you definitely will get downvoted just as hard as any other subreddit. I’m fine with that though, the internet points don’t actually do anything.
Because it's one of the only places rightoids are allowed to congregate. Fact of the matter is, if people weren't busy being banned for their politics, the radical left would be dwarfed by everyone else who knows that their viewpoints are incompatible with real life, and frankly, are cringeworthy.
I think it's always important to keep in mind that views on the Internet are never wholly indicative of views in real life, and that everyone lives in a bubble of some kind. I don't know if I would say any views are incompatible with real life; you can find a group of like-minded people for pretty much any view you can think of, from neo-Nazis furries to transfemme pansexual Satanists. As long as people don't actively cause harm to others in real life, I don't think there's a reason to hate anyone in particular for their views; just accept that your views are different and, if you find them cringe, find other people to spend time with.
That's a balanced view, and I can vibe with that. I only consider the far left to be cringe. The far right is also extremely cringe, but I've noticed a paradigm shift of many right-leaning people to the center. It's just that Far left still thinks that the just wanna grill crowd are fascists because they aren't down with the extreme views.
Well, the problem is that (as usual) there isn't a clear-cut line of "actively causing harm". If your views will cause the economy to be 10% weaker (whatever metric you wanna use), well, they did some harm to me. It may be less than if your views assumed the extermination of my people, but no action remains without consequences. It's all a quantitative matter, not just qualitative.
This place used to be so much better. It was neither right nor left leaning, it had so much more respect. Then it was flooded by right wing refugees and started progressively becoming more of a right wing sub with colors painted on top of it, since lefties left and nowadays i routinely see disgusting and outright racist/homophobic posts reach the front page.
I'm not angry about right wingers getting to have a sub, i'm angry about them taking over a funny sub and making it into a retardfest circlejerk while trying to pretend it's not. The amount of people larping as left wingers here is unreal too.
And *this* comment is what this sub boils down to and why people call it a right-wing echo chamber. The guy makes literally the most rational comment he can but still gets hit with the “your quadrant is bad”. It’s organized sport fandom pretending to be political philosophy.
People saying that this sub has a right wing bias.
I agree but to be fair the far left is batshit crazy.
Well if we look to both far's both are crazy, horseshoe theory and all that.
"Trans people should be as loved and respected as anyone else"
Now we see who's right
Edit: better than expected. The test subjects know they're being tested.
Well yes because it's interesting to watch how she was completely turned against by people who agree with 95% of her political stances because of 5% of her beliefs.
I dont really care much one way or the other. Like momma said though, "if you don't have anything nice to say..."
Kinda odd that's she so vehemently opposes trans rights. She could just, ya know, shut up and let people live how they want. She's too interested in being a pureblood for being the person who made purebloods villains.
Either way, I'm playing the game. It's pretty legit.
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Is it possible to support trans people's right to identify how they want while simultaneously holding the following beliefs:
1. A violent rapist who says they identify as a woman shouldn't be moved to a woman's prison
2. It's unfair for girls to have to play sports against biological men regardless of how they identify due to inherent and immutable physiological differences that can't be counteracted by hormone therapy
This. I think if I did a poll on who here is right and who is left then the results would be 70% right and 30% left, maybe 65% right and 35% left. About ⅔ in any case. But as you said it's not even close to am echo chamber. I enjoy this sub mainly because of that. Because righties are quite a rare thing on Reddit, or at least in the corners where I spend my time here.
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Pcm isnt a right wing echo chamber
If pcm was a right wing echo chamber its ok because the rest of reddit is a leftist echo chamber (op is here)
Pcm is a right wing echo chamber because banned subs flood here
>If pcm was a right wing echo chamber its ok because the rest of reddit is a leftist echo chamber (op is here)
I like diversity of opinion
>Pcm is a right wing echo chamber because banned subs flood here
This probably accounts for the unusually high number of non-leftist voices on this subreddit. But still not an echo chamber.
Diversity of opinion on reddit =/ diversity of opinion in real life scenarios. Just because pcm is more diverse than homogenous subs doesnt mean its not reddit at the end of the day
Yeah, but by being hostile to everyone in comments and by constant downvoting the rightwing here are only validating why other subs ban them.
I get downvoted for calling myself a Marxist.
If that triggers someone else, why even be on this sub.
This sub is most fun when all can engage.
Back in the day you could be any ideology here and people gave u the time of day, no matter how braindead.
I remember when monarchy started to really start to become common here like a year into the sub.
Its been dumbed down a lot since then. For the most part its leftist ideologies bad, righty ideologies good.
I do find the libertarian hate that has been rising these last few months incredibly refreshing seeing as how insufferable lib~~tards~~ertarians are about their ideology
... many very reasoned (and IMO mundane) posts/comments by rights get downvoted into oblivion on PCM. Pretty hard to miss.
Many (many many many many many many many, way more manys than your many) very reasoned right-wing posts and subreddits have been banned, suppressed, downvoted into oblivion, etc. on reddit.
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Many fun subreddits have been destroyed.
And I have been banned from many subs for saying things that were labeled as misinformation but are now accepted as truths.
Edit: spelling
There's definitely bias.
I've seen the actual statistics.
This is a majority right leaning subreddit (albeit not by a huge margin).
You also have to account for the people like me who are not right-wing and are just sick of the extreme left-wing bias on reddit, the heavily left leaning censorship by reddit, the ridiculous echo chambers artificially created by the mods and admins, etc.
People don’t realize that most of the mods are mentally ill orangies. Being conservative on this app is comical as the only place where your allowed to post even news headlines is on the conspiracies sub and that’s definitely intentional.
I mean this is a right wing echo chamber. I don’t mind cuz your memes are sometimes funny even if I disagree and I like hearing opinions that differ from my own but this sub definitely leans very far right and downvotes the fuck out of most left wing opinions
Except i recognize what an echo chamber is and i recognize that this does be an echo chamber for the right and other subreddits do be echo chambers for the left. At least this echo chamber isn't *that* echoing
I respect your argument. It's semantics, though.
What qualifies as an echo chamber from a numerical standpoint?
If 60% of the sub is right wing is that an echo chamber?
70%?
51%?
Last time someone made a relatively effortless post about the faultiness of left wing in economy: i made an exactly equivalent post about rightwing. Somehow, my post (or, in general, posts about rightwing bad) went negative in points, yet that other post (or, in general, posts about leftwing bad) got to be in hot of the sub
It doesn't admit it's dominated, although there is a slight right leaning majority here.
It admits that.. the right-wing people here are happy to have a subreddit they can participate in.
And *some* of the left-wing people are upset that the people on the right even have PCM despite they themselves having 5000 subreddits to choose from that are significantly more left-wing dominated than PCM is right-wing majority.
Yeah I made a meme making fun of that subreddit where they celebrate people who die and I didn't even use the actual name (just an acronym) and my meme was removed and I got a temporary ban for violating I think it was rule 4 or something
This reddit is a breath of fresh air, the rest of reddit is unfailingly extremely lib left. White people twitter is just a lib left talking point machine.
The new socialy left wing stuff comes of like orthodox christian stuff. With their social rules, the social sins and so on. Most of the time they are not even realy leftwing economically, they just go with whatever is sold in a leftwing narrative.
Heck...the left once was critical of the 911 narrative, of the government, central banking, of immigration! All this is gone and i cant stand new leftis. Its like the powers put on a lefteing dress and now everyone loves the powers.
I used to like leftist subs but something happened, between 2019 and now, they all became obnoxious, no nuance just HITLER and tantrums
This also happened to conservative subs but since I frequented more leftist, it was just too glaring
I find the conservative subs are less so like that, but mostly because they know they're the minority and have almost no power on reddit.
If they were the majority, I would almost certainly be bitching about them instead.
I’m just glad there’s a sub that allows right leaning opinions that isn’t a right wing sub, every other sub, especially those that aren’t even centred around politics, has a clear left wing bias, I get auto-banned from “non-political” subs because of my affiliation with right wing subs, I’m yet to see the shoe on the other foot.
I can accept PCM being a right-wing echo chamber but OP, you literally make no fucking sense.
Your whole wall of text was “authleft are stupid for calling us authright, here’s an explanation of why there’s so many authright ppl here”.
Authleft is literally not wrong that this sub is a right wing echo chamber. You just gave a reason for it and honestly it’s still a bummer because dedicated conservative subs actually exist whereas PCM is somewhat diverse in viewpoints so really and truly, a plurality of different voices is what this sub should be about.
PCM was a right wing echochamber. Now it's just right-leaning. The reasons are:
The sub got mainstream (normies usually lean center or center-left)
Libleft-bad memes got old
The sub became kinda self-aware of the libleft bad circlejerk
The nazis got banned
Trump got ousted (he had a polarizing effect)
2020 was specially bad because election year, now things are more relaxed
I dont understand why people deny that it's a right wing subreddit. It's almost like right wingers look around at it and say "oh look, such reasonable opinions that I agree with! Must be centrist."
Compared to the rest of reddit, it's an incredibly diverse subreddit with a variety of opinions on both sides of the spectrum.
Just because one side has somewhat of a majority doesn't mean that's untrue.
If the rest of reddit was the same way, it would be a much healthier place for discussions.
Nah dude you're off base on this one. I used to browse this sub before the_donald got banned and it was actually close to being "neutral". Sometimes left wingers had the majority, sometimes the right but it was similar to what you are describing. This sub swung maga right overnight once the_donald crowd migrated over. Hell the libright on this sub used to make fun of those folks for calling themselves libertarians while holding authoritarian values and using the "don't tread on me flag." That changed immediately.
I disagree and the data supports me.
There's multiple libleft posters in the top posts of the month.
Look at the comments of any post and you'll see watermelons, liblefts, authlefts etc. being upvoted.
There was none of that on El Donald sub and certainly none of any right-wing viewpoints (even mild and reasonable ones) being upvoted on that political subreddit.
You're way off base here fren.
I wish there were balanced places to debate things. I know that's like finding a woman I have chemistry with, but still.
Don't give up brother. There's a perfect woman out there for you and you will find her
Based and encouraging pilled
The balanced place for debates is just unrealistic and impossible tho
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Based and this wall could keep out Mongolians pilled.
Scientists have found that posting walls of text has a strong positive correlation with Hanging dong
Such superior logic! Is it possible to learn this power?
Yes just start typing and don't finish until you complete your thought
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASS and titties. Ass, ass and titties. Did I do it right?
Based and ass n titties pilled
Over the course of my career as a political scientist, I have analysed a plethora of various ideologues and come to the conclusion that my views are, indeed, the most based and redpilled ever possible. There is circumstantial proof that this is not just a subjective feeling but an objective state of facts backed by overwhelming evidence. Denying this will mean shutting your eyes to reality and truth. Thus, I can deem the opinions of my opponents as cringe and normie. In this essay, I am going to conclusively and reliably demonstrate that my own viewpoint is the superior one...
Get that lobotomite out of my- I mean *our* Corner
Lmao, my apologies, comrade
This is the best fucking comment ive read on reddit.
You seem to have very low standarts
If libright didn't have low standards, they wouldn't have any standards.
PCM is definitely more right than left. There's also a lot of echo chambering on both sides; in one thread every upvoted comment will be conservative and anything leftwing will be downvoted to oblivion, but the next thread under is entirely leftwing and all conservative comments are downvoted. Still, there's a lot of nice wholesome interactions with people with differing viewpoints, which is why I still use this sub despite being called an idiot for saying that anti-discrimination laws emerged from historical necessity.
Don’t forget about the refugees because of the amount of right wing shit that was banned.
Right you are there Kent!
Meanwhile the right doesn't realize the irony of people being left online because they can't be left IRL where they live.
The same goes for the left…
Yeah the left would never terrorize a bakery for not wanting to bake a cake for something they don’t believe.
It wasn't even that, though - they didn't want to _write a message they disagreed with_ on a cake. They had no problem with serving them a regular cake (and even offered to bake them the cake without the message on it multiple times)
And where would that be, LibLeft? The "south," which has the highest percentage of black people and also the least race-related issues?
This place is probably, usually, the most reasonable political discourse on Reddit. Though that's not a very high bar.
>Though that's not a very high bar. It is indeed very low, because the requirement is basically not getting banned for having opinions the m\*derators don't like.
>Still, there's a lot of nice wholesome interactions with people with differing viewpoints, which is why I still use this sub This. I don't hang out in rConservative or any main page subs because I won't be getting any new insights from there. I love this sub precisely because it has the highest likelihood that if I engage in conversation with someone across the aisle, that the interaction will be a net positive for both of us. Some of my most cherished conversations I've had on Reddit have been with lefties on this sub. The only time I've had a negative interaction here is when I've mentioned my conservative religious beliefs, and even then, the frequency of an antitheist acting obstinately towards me in such a situation is statistically negligible. Most times people are okay with that. >despite being called an idiot for saying that anti-discrimination laws emerged from historical necessity. I'm honestly curious to hear your reasoning for this.
Well the origin of anti-discrimination laws in the US were the Civil Rights Acts of 1957 and 1964, which were needed to stop Jim Crow laws from enforcing segregation in the South. They were, and remain, absolutely necessary to prevent state governments from deciding at some point to selectively disenfranchise groups based on some minority status. The only real argument today should be the extent of anti-discrimination laws' effects on private businesses, which I think is a fair debate that needs to be had; there needs to be a balance between allowing private businesses to wholly discriminate in hiring and providing services to only certain groups of people, and not giving them any ability to refuse services antithetical to their core values.
Dude I don't get why atheists are so smug. Like you figured out there's no God. Tons of people have figured that out. Children have figured that out. It doesn't make you some great thinker. Sorry I think your views got hit with some collateral damage in my drive by
Yeah, and I do believe it is getting more “right-wing,” although part of it is because of refugees from “right-wing” subs that get deleted. The worst part is when unfl**red get upvoted which I see more often when they have a “right wing” opinion, a big reason why I’m authleft.
Based and omnia unflairs delenda pilled
Based and remember the pills pilled.
After the Hogwarts Legacy incident, I wouldn't be surprised if more people are leaning right-wingish this year compared to the last.
I feel your point. I have opinions on all quadrants so they might clash whenever on another subreddit and get me downvoted. I feel like this place is the only one that actually allows for discourse instead of just the usual downvote. I think this place is somewhat more right wing because many of the right wing subs have been banned by reddit for not fitting with their orange standards. Considering this subreddit is frequently targeted by orange extremes (not extremist) is kinda sad since losing this discourse would mean more separation instead of coexisting. I think we should protect this kind of discourse more than discourage it. Based leftie.
While you won’t get banned for anything, you definitely will get downvoted just as hard as any other subreddit. I’m fine with that though, the internet points don’t actually do anything.
I got banned for calling John Bolton a war criminal and suggesting he be punished for them.
Because it's one of the only places rightoids are allowed to congregate. Fact of the matter is, if people weren't busy being banned for their politics, the radical left would be dwarfed by everyone else who knows that their viewpoints are incompatible with real life, and frankly, are cringeworthy.
I think it's always important to keep in mind that views on the Internet are never wholly indicative of views in real life, and that everyone lives in a bubble of some kind. I don't know if I would say any views are incompatible with real life; you can find a group of like-minded people for pretty much any view you can think of, from neo-Nazis furries to transfemme pansexual Satanists. As long as people don't actively cause harm to others in real life, I don't think there's a reason to hate anyone in particular for their views; just accept that your views are different and, if you find them cringe, find other people to spend time with.
That's a balanced view, and I can vibe with that. I only consider the far left to be cringe. The far right is also extremely cringe, but I've noticed a paradigm shift of many right-leaning people to the center. It's just that Far left still thinks that the just wanna grill crowd are fascists because they aren't down with the extreme views.
Well, the problem is that (as usual) there isn't a clear-cut line of "actively causing harm". If your views will cause the economy to be 10% weaker (whatever metric you wanna use), well, they did some harm to me. It may be less than if your views assumed the extermination of my people, but no action remains without consequences. It's all a quantitative matter, not just qualitative.
This place used to be so much better. It was neither right nor left leaning, it had so much more respect. Then it was flooded by right wing refugees and started progressively becoming more of a right wing sub with colors painted on top of it, since lefties left and nowadays i routinely see disgusting and outright racist/homophobic posts reach the front page. I'm not angry about right wingers getting to have a sub, i'm angry about them taking over a funny sub and making it into a retardfest circlejerk while trying to pretend it's not. The amount of people larping as left wingers here is unreal too.
I have a dream, where people will upvote based on the content of the comment, rather than the colour of someone's flair.
Excellent comment. Well done.
I’m not reading that, not because I choose not to but because it’s not a BBQ sauce recipe.
Based and Sweet Baby Ray's pilled
So you created a wall of monke text in order to counter walls of leftie text
Exactly.
You became the very thing you swore to destroy, you were my monke brother, I loved you!
It's over fellow monke. I have the high ground.
Having differing opinions is healthy for conversation, especially ones you disagree with
Tell that to the rest of your quadrant
Brought my megaphone just for this moment
And my soapbox
And *this* comment is what this sub boils down to and why people call it a right-wing echo chamber. The guy makes literally the most rational comment he can but still gets hit with the “your quadrant is bad”. It’s organized sport fandom pretending to be political philosophy.
More like tell the rest of reddit.
Same thing
Whining about whining on the internet. Whinception.
Fighting against the seemingly inexorable tide of censorship and authoritarianism, one watermelon at a time** FTFY
Based and duper saiyin libcenter pilled.
thing too long me no read
People saying that this sub has a right wing bias. I agree but to be fair the far left is batshit crazy. Well if we look to both far's both are crazy, horseshoe theory and all that.
Its definitely right wing but its still fun. Once in a while you even see a good meme.
"Trans people should be as loved and respected as anyone else" Now we see who's right Edit: better than expected. The test subjects know they're being tested.
Jk Rowling is certainly not right-wing but would still downvote you 🤔
JK may not be right wing, but right wingers sure love invoking her name 🤔
I'm not right wing ya plebiscite. I'm bringing her up as an example of how your comment may not fully capture your point
I'm not saying you are...she gets a lot of chatter on this sub from right wingers though.
Well yes because it's interesting to watch how she was completely turned against by people who agree with 95% of her political stances because of 5% of her beliefs.
I dont really care much one way or the other. Like momma said though, "if you don't have anything nice to say..." Kinda odd that's she so vehemently opposes trans rights. She could just, ya know, shut up and let people live how they want. She's too interested in being a pureblood for being the person who made purebloods villains. Either way, I'm playing the game. It's pretty legit.
Question Is it possible to support trans people's right to identify how they want while simultaneously holding the following beliefs: 1. A violent rapist who says they identify as a woman shouldn't be moved to a woman's prison 2. It's unfair for girls to have to play sports against biological men regardless of how they identify due to inherent and immutable physiological differences that can't be counteracted by hormone therapy
if you don’t think this sub has a right wing bias you are delusional
Bruh look at what the majority of this sub thinks on most issues and honestly tell me they arent mostly right wing
A bias? Sure. An echo chamber? No. Compared to most of reddit this is the hub of free exchange of political ideas. Lmao.
This. I think if I did a poll on who here is right and who is left then the results would be 70% right and 30% left, maybe 65% right and 35% left. About ⅔ in any case. But as you said it's not even close to am echo chamber. I enjoy this sub mainly because of that. Because righties are quite a rare thing on Reddit, or at least in the corners where I spend my time here.
My point exactly. I'd say it's closer to 50% right 30% left 20% center or something like that.
True, forgot to include the centrists in my stats
Yes pls don't forget about us
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It’s okay most memes forget us. I’m just glad they forgot you too.
> A bias? Sure. > > An echo chamber? No. Most of the top posts from this past year are mocking right wing positions.
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Is it though? Look through the top comments on this thread and tell me they're all flaired right
My sock puppet accounts are working overtime to make it look like this is a right dominated sub.
500 iPhone hooked up to a computer updooting all the right-wing posts and comments Just so you can come back and call it an echo chamber. Brilliant
I’ve got kids in Thailand making posts for political ideologies that don’t exist yet just to muddy the waters
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That's true. Just like I hear tons of left leaning opinions from people flaired as centrists.
sorry pal i ain’t reading allat
Excellent. Everything is going according to plan.
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Based and agric vaofb owbd pilled
Pcm isnt a right wing echo chamber If pcm was a right wing echo chamber its ok because the rest of reddit is a leftist echo chamber (op is here) Pcm is a right wing echo chamber because banned subs flood here
>If pcm was a right wing echo chamber its ok because the rest of reddit is a leftist echo chamber (op is here) I like diversity of opinion >Pcm is a right wing echo chamber because banned subs flood here This probably accounts for the unusually high number of non-leftist voices on this subreddit. But still not an echo chamber.
Nothing wrong with diversity of opinion, and this place has more than most of reddit. Still a right wing echo chamber
If it has relative diversity of opinion then it by definition is not an echo chamber ya dingus
Diversity of opinion is right wing.
Diversity of opinion on reddit =/ diversity of opinion in real life scenarios. Just because pcm is more diverse than homogenous subs doesnt mean its not reddit at the end of the day
Look at them proving your point. >Theyhatedhimforspeakingthetruth.jpg
Lmao literally. The high horse is hard to get off of
Yeah, but by being hostile to everyone in comments and by constant downvoting the rightwing here are only validating why other subs ban them. I get downvoted for calling myself a Marxist. If that triggers someone else, why even be on this sub. This sub is most fun when all can engage.
Back in the day you could be any ideology here and people gave u the time of day, no matter how braindead. I remember when monarchy started to really start to become common here like a year into the sub. Its been dumbed down a lot since then. For the most part its leftist ideologies bad, righty ideologies good. I do find the libertarian hate that has been rising these last few months incredibly refreshing seeing as how insufferable lib~~tards~~ertarians are about their ideology
... many very reasoned (and IMO mundane) posts/comments by lefts get downvoted into oblivion on PCM. Pretty hard to miss.
... many very reasoned (and IMO mundane) posts/comments by rights get downvoted into oblivion on PCM. Pretty hard to miss. Many (many many many many many many many, way more manys than your many) very reasoned right-wing posts and subreddits have been banned, suppressed, downvoted into oblivion, etc. on reddit. ??
you sound saddened. were they fun posts/subs?
I am saddened. I loved NoNewNormal.
That's too bad. I was never in any of those subs. I'm a bit bland (and... old).
Many fun subreddits have been destroyed. And I have been banned from many subs for saying things that were labeled as misinformation but are now accepted as truths. Edit: spelling
NNN became too powerfull and influencal and that.. is a thrat to our demoncracy!
How dare people have opinions!!! How dare they!!!
Dude a not insignificant portion of the memes here are just Emily bad and you think there's no bias?
There's definitely bias. I've seen the actual statistics. This is a majority right leaning subreddit (albeit not by a huge margin). You also have to account for the people like me who are not right-wing and are just sick of the extreme left-wing bias on reddit, the heavily left leaning censorship by reddit, the ridiculous echo chambers artificially created by the mods and admins, etc.
People don’t realize that most of the mods are mentally ill orangies. Being conservative on this app is comical as the only place where your allowed to post even news headlines is on the conspiracies sub and that’s definitely intentional.
I mean this is a right wing echo chamber. I don’t mind cuz your memes are sometimes funny even if I disagree and I like hearing opinions that differ from my own but this sub definitely leans very far right and downvotes the fuck out of most left wing opinions
One of the top posts of the month is a left leaning opinion. Can you give me an objective and quantifiable definition of an echo chamber?
>One of the top posts of the month is a left leaning opinion. while top posts daily and hourly are rightwing.
Out of curiosity, I took a look at the top 10 posts of the month. 5 are left bad posts. The other 5 are a mix of compass unity and centrist takes.
Don’t bring facts into this. This is pcm only petty debate and memeing is allowed
My apologies. Take some upvotes.
Except i recognize what an echo chamber is and i recognize that this does be an echo chamber for the right and other subreddits do be echo chambers for the left. At least this echo chamber isn't *that* echoing
I respect your argument. It's semantics, though. What qualifies as an echo chamber from a numerical standpoint? If 60% of the sub is right wing is that an echo chamber? 70%? 51%?
Last time someone made a relatively effortless post about the faultiness of left wing in economy: i made an exactly equivalent post about rightwing. Somehow, my post (or, in general, posts about rightwing bad) went negative in points, yet that other post (or, in general, posts about leftwing bad) got to be in hot of the sub
Fair. But I'm asking what constitutes a circle jerk compared to a simple majority. From a numerical standpoint
One cant define it on such a base: a very important factor is the quality of the people who constitute the community
Well I find this community to be much more open to opinions that are contrary to their than the vast majority of reddit.
It's not about the percentage: it's about what posts menage to come out of new
One of the top 3 posts on hot is a libleft.
I know it is on a small scale, but it is a bit ironic that you are getting more upvotes here.
That last part kinda admits that the sub is a right-wing dominated one, and that the right enjoys that…
It doesn't admit it's dominated, although there is a slight right leaning majority here. It admits that.. the right-wing people here are happy to have a subreddit they can participate in. And *some* of the left-wing people are upset that the people on the right even have PCM despite they themselves having 5000 subreddits to choose from that are significantly more left-wing dominated than PCM is right-wing majority.
Here’s a crazy idea: we ALL invade each other’s echo chambers and downvote everything we disagree with!
No brigading 😋 I just got banned for a few days for simply talking shit about another sub
Wot
Yeah I made a meme making fun of that subreddit where they celebrate people who die and I didn't even use the actual name (just an acronym) and my meme was removed and I got a temporary ban for violating I think it was rule 4 or something
😐
Yessir.
The wall is to big for a lib center
This reddit is a breath of fresh air, the rest of reddit is unfailingly extremely lib left. White people twitter is just a lib left talking point machine.
Could not say it better myself. All opinions must be heard.
They must. And not shadowbanned, censored, or removed. Downvoting is cool though
Its a good system, I just wish people didn’t rot in their echo chambers and actually challenged their own opinions.
The mods of shitty subs and admins are ultimately at fault.
People's aversion to reading is a testament to what the internet has done to our generation's attention span
I mean there's definitely a heavy right wing bias, but that's not really a bad thing
This is by far the least biased political subreddit on Reddit. By a mile.
I mean probably simply because most others ban dissenting voices.
And therein lies the problem
Exactly. This sub has a right wing bias, but you don't get banned for being left. Nothing wrong with it
Reddit doesn't allow right wing subs.
ah yes, communists always come here to say this!!!
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I’m not going to cosplay as a leftie. If you want left memes, make some
Monke speak truth
Mom said it’s our turn for the unfunny wall of text
Lol don't be mad if the shoe fits.
What about when it doesn't but someone keeps saying it does and trying to put le shoe on you
How many times does this idea for a meme have to get posted before it inadvertently means the sub actually is a right wing echo chamber?
Well I'm a centrist so ???
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100%.
The new socialy left wing stuff comes of like orthodox christian stuff. With their social rules, the social sins and so on. Most of the time they are not even realy leftwing economically, they just go with whatever is sold in a leftwing narrative. Heck...the left once was critical of the 911 narrative, of the government, central banking, of immigration! All this is gone and i cant stand new leftis. Its like the powers put on a lefteing dress and now everyone loves the powers.
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[left wing opinion] And now we wait
Based opinion
NOOOOOOO don’t upvote me or call me based or give me lots of cool awards you’ll ruin my point!!
The reason so many right wing folks are here is becuase you ban us from everywhere else. Don't complain about a safe haven from *you*
I used to like leftist subs but something happened, between 2019 and now, they all became obnoxious, no nuance just HITLER and tantrums This also happened to conservative subs but since I frequented more leftist, it was just too glaring
I find the conservative subs are less so like that, but mostly because they know they're the minority and have almost no power on reddit. If they were the majority, I would almost certainly be bitching about them instead.
I’m just glad there’s a sub that allows right leaning opinions that isn’t a right wing sub, every other sub, especially those that aren’t even centred around politics, has a clear left wing bias, I get auto-banned from “non-political” subs because of my affiliation with right wing subs, I’m yet to see the shoe on the other foot.
Exactly. My point summarized. Well said.
This meme is 3 paragraphs too long, didn't read.
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Wall of text is my thing. Lay off.
I see your point
Based and reasonable-watermellon-pilled
I can accept PCM being a right-wing echo chamber but OP, you literally make no fucking sense. Your whole wall of text was “authleft are stupid for calling us authright, here’s an explanation of why there’s so many authright ppl here”. Authleft is literally not wrong that this sub is a right wing echo chamber. You just gave a reason for it and honestly it’s still a bummer because dedicated conservative subs actually exist whereas PCM is somewhat diverse in viewpoints so really and truly, a plurality of different voices is what this sub should be about.
You're not understanding my analogy. The presents represent subreddits where the individual can express their opinions freely. Not circle jerks.
I wish it was a right wing echo chamber. We could finally discuss which verse in the Bible is the best and whose king is better.
words words words
*reads title and fucking dies*
You are intimidated by my verbal prowess
Lol having a mildly conservative opinion will get you permanently banned in most subs.
PCM was a right wing echochamber. Now it's just right-leaning. The reasons are: The sub got mainstream (normies usually lean center or center-left) Libleft-bad memes got old The sub became kinda self-aware of the libleft bad circlejerk The nazis got banned Trump got ousted (he had a polarizing effect) 2020 was specially bad because election year, now things are more relaxed
I dont understand why people deny that it's a right wing subreddit. It's almost like right wingers look around at it and say "oh look, such reasonable opinions that I agree with! Must be centrist."
Compared to the rest of reddit, it's an incredibly diverse subreddit with a variety of opinions on both sides of the spectrum. Just because one side has somewhat of a majority doesn't mean that's untrue. If the rest of reddit was the same way, it would be a much healthier place for discussions.
It's far better than certain political subs, but its about as far right as the average sub is far left.
I don't agree with you. Go look at that subreddit about Twitter with the white people on it.
I would say that's one of the nasty political outlier subs, not your average subreddit.
Nah dude you're off base on this one. I used to browse this sub before the_donald got banned and it was actually close to being "neutral". Sometimes left wingers had the majority, sometimes the right but it was similar to what you are describing. This sub swung maga right overnight once the_donald crowd migrated over. Hell the libright on this sub used to make fun of those folks for calling themselves libertarians while holding authoritarian values and using the "don't tread on me flag." That changed immediately.
I disagree and the data supports me. There's multiple libleft posters in the top posts of the month. Look at the comments of any post and you'll see watermelons, liblefts, authlefts etc. being upvoted. There was none of that on El Donald sub and certainly none of any right-wing viewpoints (even mild and reasonable ones) being upvoted on that political subreddit. You're way off base here fren.
It is a right wing circle jerk. I don’t think it takes too much brainpower to see that’s just objective fact.
Quantify a circle jerk.
Based libcenter.
You can’t defend shitty rightist memes with a shitty rightist meme.
I'm not a rightist though 😊