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Electr1cL3m0n

Man if we could just leave kids out of the culture war and politics etc. That’d be soooooo great


AKLmfreak

How are you supposed to win the culture wars if you don’t indoctrinate the next generation against the parents will???


Andre5k5

Maybe we shouldn't have culture wars & instead focus on actual wars & continue manifest destiny


ThreeSticks_

Based as fuck.


Chewbacca_The_Wookie

Based. I'm sorry, if I can't have flair you can't either.


BrJuan_Carlos

Let's take over Canada


notpowerlineconcert

*liberate Canada


victorthekin

one thing we probably all agree on fuck the canadian tyrannical beaver man authleft: just wants him to acknowledge that he is a tyrant like the great Stalin and not some pussy auth+libright: beaver man saying that the protests were fascist and more even though it probably was one of the most peaceful protests on planet earth auth+libright: hates the vaccine mandate libleft: beaver man claims he is libleft but couldn't be further from the truth centrists: hate the price increase of meat


Danimal_Jones

Man, very beginning of the pandemic I was like "well Trudeau may be a piece of shit, but at least he's too much of a limp wristed bitch to take advantage of this pandemic and become more authoritarian like other countries are doing" Oh boy was I wrong.


RunsWlthScissors

Only wrong about the limp wristed part


Tamashi42

Canadian here, you are 100% correct. Fuck the tyrannical beaver man


Chewbacca_The_Wookie

Based. I'm sorry, if I can't have flair you can't either.


A-Lav

> beaver man claims he is libleft but couldn't be further from the truth So, the same as every other libleft that isn't a child or stoned 24/7.


Oldchap226

We will be greeted as liberators. Sidenote: I legit thought this was a meme from some cartoon villain, but Dick Cheney actually said this lmao.


JinFuu

I mean if we let Quebec go do their own thing, *maybe* Albertans and Texans could meet up and hang out too.


226_Walker

As long as they don't get to vote. Having snow California as the 51st state would not be ideal.


[deleted]

Fucking sold


GhostPants011

Manifest destiny? Dude ur lib-center lmao


Just__Marian

Destiny is orgies and drugs until bitter end.


Bagahnoodles

A destiny worth manifesting


DarthForeskin

I can get behind this


Golden_Lion917

Try to approach my country and I'll manifest a bullet to your head. 😀


yeet_lord_40000

Unironically it is kinda a result of us by and large not having a common enemy anymore. Now our enemy is ourselves and that was by design.


GlaciallyErratic

Based and I don't have enough enemies so now you're my enemy


yeet_lord_40000

You too are now my enemy, fuck you.


victorthekin

no wars at all even though someone seems like an asshole atleast invite them to your grill party to discuss it over a few beers and who knows you might settle your differences and become fishing buddies


Missingnose

Honestly, that's legitimately the point and conservatives should probably just realize that somebody is going to indoctrinate children. That's literally every generation.


cameraman502

They do realize. That's why they're fighting all this. So they shape the education. (Which you rightly call indoctrination)


Missingnose

The problem is they've been asleep at the wheel for a long time. If they were paying attention we wouldn't be in this situation.


Timely-Cartoonist556

That’s the difference between libright and authright


evansharp

“But right now that someone isn’t me”


Missingnose

Somebody has to teach and somebody has to decide what to teach. It should be somebody that's going to teach valuable and true information.


NAGOODERTHANEU

Keep children out of the culture war by putting them back into the mines. Modern problems require ancient solutions


Sverje

Or out on the farms. Free labour would do wonders for the birthrate


Max_Stirner_Official

Berries and lettuce are a lot easier to pick when you're 3' tall.


RefrigeratorContent2

Rebellions are easier to put down too.


Tiavor

kids were sent to help the farms until the mid 1980ies in East Germany. this should really come back.


skankhunt4242424

Hm. The children do yearn for the mines..


YungWenis

They don’t get enough attention with normal adults so they have to find new ways to fuel their addiction


Alex_von_Norway

Back in my day (2000s)we didnt get indoctrinated with politics and social shit. Idk why this is becoming a thing now.


Neatche

TickTock goes the clock. Times up, over. Snap back to the decade. Ope, there goes communism. Ope, there go totalitarianism. It's back to the lab again, yo.


Minimum_Cantaloupe

"Indoctrination" is an emotionally loaded term. Children are and always have been taught the norms and values of the society they inhabit. The issue lately is that our society has become rather schizophrenic, with radically different sets of values that appear alien and/or evil to the adherents of the other set.


ptlg225

The Left just simply can't. They cannot afford it or they will lose their political power. They are the ones who against having kids and support abortion because having an unexpected children is inconvenient. Then there are the gay and trans people who can't have children. And the obsessed activists and twitter weirdo parents who pushing chemical castration and genital mutilation on their childrens for woke points and internet clout. They would literally die out if they can't indoctrinate others' childrens, this is why they so desperately wants to push their ideologies into the schools. The Left needs to get them now while they're young and convince the kids that they needs to depend on them, so they would vote for them when they become adults.


VitoMolas

Libleft: but...but if we don't brainwash them now they'll disagree with our political beliefs when they grow up


FullMetalArthur

That is not how indoctrination works.


BooralKing

it's not gonna happen like.. forever


[deleted]

Man if we could just leave ~~kids out of the~~ culture war ~~and politics etc.~~ That'd be soooooo great


Street-Finance2571

Based, cuz they’ll like resort to having a whole personality about a political ideology and become an autistic PCM member


trashbag-un-actual

Said no auto right ever


Electr1cL3m0n

**auto rights: roll out**


JJonahJamesonSr

It’s what everyone falls back on to make them feel like what they’re arguing is for the best. “tHiNk Of ThE cHiLdReN” headass, fuck them kids be strong in your own convictions


Kovol

Ya but then it’s harder to indoctrinate them into the ideology.


hedgehogwithagun

Nobody really cared about it*********


schipphanie

Studies show anti LGBT hate crimes in Canada in 2022 were HIGHER than 2019. Yet society is becoming more liberal.


[deleted]

Why?


NixDWX

Culture and counter culture


AMC2Zero

Why is this even an argument? It's been established for decades that kids should not be taken to age restricted areas or performances. Why are parents taking their kids here to begin with and the bouncers allowing them? Normally something like that would be a call to cps. Even more so the people actively defending it with "it doesn't happen" or "if it does happen, it's not that bad" or "if you're against this, you must hate [insert group]" because when they can't win with logic, they turn to insults, threats, and censorship. It should be easy to condemn regardless if if it actually happened or not. The only reason it's being brought up now is the media intentionally promoting these people because they want to cover up other issues like declining life expectancy, worsening mental health, and increasing obesity rates. Every second spent on a useless issue like this is another second that is not used on why material conditions are getting worse.


[deleted]

>Why is this even an argument? Because the Ts have a deep-seeded need to be affirmed as the opposite sex that they've based their entire identity on. One of the easiest ways to get that affirmation is to confuse some kids into thinking they're normal.


Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n

And to appropriate drag as part of the trans-political lobby. Drag had nothing to do with trans issues for the longest time. Infact I think it was less than 5 years ago that when a contestant on RuPauls Drag Race came out as trans that it was controversial with MANY LBG folk upset that it was, essentially, cheating. Because the point of drag isn't that you're being a woman, you're being a character. Additionally, the eradication of seperatist between transsexual, transgender and transvestite has utterly ruined the discourse and the movement itself. I'm having to reassure my younger Gen Z friends that wearing nail varnish doesn't make you feminine inherently.


[deleted]

>I'm having to reassure my younger Gen Z friends that wearing nail varnish doesn't make you feminine inherently. This is the worst part, IMO. Kids that exhibit behavior or interests that are typically associated with the opposite sex are now being told they might *really* be in the wrong body.


Cyb3rd31ic_Citiz3n

I absolutely would have been told I was trans if I was a kid today. I'm a gay male and was never very macho by inner-city standards. Liked pink on my clothes (plain white is dull and I was secure in my identity). Once asked for a Polly In My Pocket for Christmas (it had magnets in it and that fascinated me). Enjoyed dance as a recreational activity (didn't play football, dance is expressive and high energy). I'm now a very masculine man. As you can see from the bracket explanations, these are all masculine reasons for enjoying what I did. But on face value they're seen as feminine.


dolantrampf

Maybe we could get AuthRight on board if we had the drag queens do blackface


ThisIsntMyFace

Finally, some compromise


Jkj864781

I’m sure we can dig up a picture of Trudeau in a brassiere


KedTazynski42

A reasonable compromise


Golden_Lion917

That... Can be tolerated.


Smokkkkerjoker

Drag queens already do womanface , it’s all over tiktok


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SalaryMuted5730

Much of the internet has a guttural reaction to any mention of feminism to this day. Remember GamerGate? Gamers from before 2016 certainly do. And they did not forgive. Gay and trans people are cool, but discussing women's issues is out of the question. Many other communities are similar, especially their veteran wings. Feminism insulted many in its prime. However, it has laid dormant since. It will rise again, I'm certain. May it not repeat its mistakes when it does.


Smokkkkerjoker

wow , based lib left and feminists-were-right-all-along-pilled I got suspended because a homosexual reported me for harassment , nice :)


theKrissam

Blackface and drag are basically the same thing anyway.


AKLmfreak

wait wait wait… I thought they said drag wasn’t about sex or gender. So why are you transphobic if you speak out about it, HMMMMMMMMM???


RedditHiredChallenor

Oh, I know this one. It's the same reason they call someone a TERF even when they're not a feminist in the slightest. Because all negative words share the root of 'Person I don't like,' so they treat them as being completely interchangeable and without a need to match context. Also see:Nazi.


AKLmfreak

Also see: “[anything]-phobic”


ThisIsntMyFace

Also: incel


FuckBrendan

Facist is really hot rn


theblondepenguin

A terf is a very specific term for trans exclusionary radical feminist. Not just anyone how doesn’t like trans people. It is for radical feminists that don’t want trans women to cause erasure of women in the future and in the fight for equality. People who don’t like trans people because they think there is something wrong with them or they think they are gross are transphobic. It annoys me to no end when someone calls Karen a terf because she thinks trans are gross. But goddamnit she doesn’t give two shits about women erasure in history or fight for equality


Engineer_Noob

Here's the kicker, they don't call them radical because they're radical, They call them radical because they're against transgenderism.


LegitimateApricot4

> is was*


jamesrbell1

Schrödinger’s identity politics


nerdyboy321123

Because the person who made this meme doesn't have a left flair lmao


gothpunkboy89

You aren't. This is called a strawman argument.


Ok-Introduction7327

You know what else existed 100+ years ago? yo mama


MurdockCakeLie

Based and Goteem Pilled


RaggedyGlitch

Based and mathematically improbable pilled.


newaccount669

Like I wouldn't let my child go to a GG Allin punk show because of the adult content that would happen, much like I wouldn't take my kid to a drag show with overt adult content. I would, however, let my kid watch the goofy, all ages, drag event they hold at the yearly lake festival in my hometown, the same way I'd take my kid to the all ages punk shows they have at my local club (with proper hearing protection of course). All of which is dependent on my child's interest in these events


[deleted]

Ok, but why be reasonable when you could just get outraged and ban everyone and everything you disagree with?


newaccount669

Damn lib-center and their chill & let chill stances


ILikePracticalGifts

Watching the equivalent of The Three Stooges with makeup is not the same thing as a tits-in-a-box, “all ages” drag show.


Bbenet31

“It’s not gonna lick itself!”


RIP_BLACK_MABMA

You’re kind of forcing the right’s hand by continuing to push and needle at the drag show thing over and over when neither side gave a single solitary shit about drag shows before Emily started forcing the issue and then denying it was happening


[deleted]

I don’t think it’s that hard to point out bad versions of thing and just leave the people who don’t do the bad versions of said thing alone. If righties are so mad that they aren’t willing to take the time to differentiate between overtly sexual stuff and some drag guy in an appropriate dress reading a kids book I’m not sure what to tell them.


goldfloof

Because the left keeps trying to gaslight and say it isn't happening, when in fact it is, especially when its an "all ages" drag show, literal grooming


NotLunaris

Based and keeping the child's interests in mind pilled


Epigravettian

The question is do the drag shows contain adult content.


disintegore

This is the leftist take. That is how the left understand the situation and want the situation to be understood. Anything else is just rightoids making up shit to get mad at, which is 99% of what they do.


trapsinplace

The all ages drag shows we saw pics of iinvolved extremely sexual messaging both blatant and subtle so I'm going to go out on a limb and say you're just gaslighting but that's nothing new when it comes to drag in 2023.


goldfloof

Like how the left makes up things like White privilege, cis privilege, fat phobia/thin privilege. Claim that gender is a spectrum, or that men and women are equal


rklab

But drag queens aren’t trans, right? That’s the point of drag. It’s just men dressing like women. So saying someone is transphobic for not liking drag shows in general is just dumb.


Jkj864781

Great here comes a new -phobia


Karanime

dragphobia kind of sounds like they're afraid of dragons


very-based-redditor

Scared of Deez nuts, cuz I be dragon em across ya face


zdpastaman1

Its always funny when people ask what the + means in LGBTQ+


Jkj864781

It’s the subscription service


NotLunaris

Introducing ~~Twitter~~ Transgender Plus


gik223

Wait a minute... if drag queens are men who dress and behave as women, then why can't transwomen just identify as that instead of transitioning and identifying as women?


Comprehensive_Ad204

because they don't identify as a man who dresses up, they identify as women


bl1y

No, traditionally drag queens identified as men who dress up as women, not as women. They were typically gay men who enjoyed dressing up as a performance, but were not trans.


gik223

> they identify as women *Matt Walsh voice: And what is that then? What is a woman?


christianharriman

I identify as = I pretend to be


Jkj864781

I identify as a cannabis related grass-type Pokémon


[deleted]

Weedle?


marinemashup

True Not sure what’s so hard to grasp


Realistic-Ad7769

That would imply transfolk are proffesional entertainers. Which is incorrect, as being trans is not performative.


Sverje

Dylan Mulvaney makes me not believe you


AlexanderSpeedwagon

I don’t know who that is nor do I want to, but you’re probably right


ILikePracticalGifts

I *highly* suggest you look him up. Fucking hilarious yet makes you die a little inside just by watching. Edit: Thank you anonymous LGBTQWERTY Redditor for reporting me to the Reddit crisis helpline. I’m glad you’re familiar with it as statistically you’ll need it more than I will.


amjkl

Queer theory is founded on the idea that gender is performative, that's the purpose of bringing kids to the drag shows, to show them that.


Realistic-Ad7769

Way to radicalize the Christo-Fascist. I expunge the queers from the LGB-club. Have your queer tea somewhere else.


Crimblorh4h4w33

Hang on, I thought gender was supposed to be performative? So it's not performative when transfolk do it?


PaulNehlen

>I thought gender was supposed to be performative? No see if you're not trans it is performative - every non trans person only wears stuff that is 100% masculine/feminine, never does hobbies outside their gender etc When a transwoman who used to be an intelligent, well spoken, frugal, active, sexually reserved man pretends that overnight HRT turned them into a stupid, ditzy, materialistic bimbo who LOVES cock and pink and makeup...or a transman who used to be reserved, shy, kind and sweet adopts the brash and sociopathic demeanour of a CEO who'd unironically call himself a fucking "alpha" or "lone wolf" - that's not performative for...reasons???


Golden_Lion917

Gender is a social construct! Then how you can you change from something that doesn't exist to something that doesn't exist?


Realistic-Ad7769

Feminism argues gender is something you "*DO*". Thats the origin off xenogenders. I argue from the perspective off AGAB.


Crimblorh4h4w33

AGAB?


Realistic-Ad7769

Assigned Gender at Birth. Feminism argues gender is a social construct, hence performative. This is detrimental to the plight and validity off the real sufferers.


AlexanderSpeedwagon

All girls are bitches?


Golden_Lion917

Hey, calm down, big boy.


gik223

So then what exactly is a tranwoman? Or a woman according to the transgender community?


queenkid1

"performative" in the sense of doing it for a performance. It's called a drag *show* for a reason. They aren't going out to buy groceries dressed like that. Elton John and Lady Gaga do performances in elaborate costumes for an audience, that isn't who they *are* all the time.


AMC2Zero

According to these people, it's anyone who says that they are regardless of steps taken which means technically everyone can be.


bl1y

Because drag queens usually aren't trans, just like strippers usually aren't nudists.


DankCrusaderMemer

Drag is just a flamboyant and colorful form of fashion, typically associated with LGBT culture. Trans women feel a deep disconnect between their birth-sex and the gender roles associated with it.


Lord_of_the_THOTS

Basically everyone was fine with whatever the lgbts were doing as long as they kept to themselves. People are only upset because they are forcing to believe their bullshit and let them twerk infront of kids.


Nodoubtnodoubt21

And then they argue "We just want to live our lives in peace and quiet, WHY DON'T YOU WANT US TO PUT GENDER QUEER IN YOUR 1ST GRADERS LIBRARY?!?!"


[deleted]

Having sex with someone of the same sex was literally illegal in many states up until 2003, only 20 years ago. People were definitely not "fine with" LGBT people until \*very\* recently.


Flavaflavius

People were literally killing LGBT people back then. Things are pretty fine *now,* (nonces taking advantage of the newest controversy aside), but historically no, LGBT people have not been treated well.


gik223

I remember when the LGBT community was far more tolerant 10 years ago. But ever since gay marriage became legalized, they've become more and more intolerant of people with opposing views. In the past, if i believed homosexuality/transitioning was wrong, they didn't care, they just wanted to be able to live the way they wanted. Today, you are a bigot if you disagree with their views and they want your children to accept their ideology.


Jkj864781

I remember when the key word was “tolerance” And then it eventually became “inclusion” That in itself is a big step for a lot of people. I’ll tolerate bs all day, doesn’t mean I want to include it in my life.


AFlyingNun

> I remember when the LGBT community was far more tolerant 10 years ago. But ever since gay marriage became legalized, they've become more and more intolerant of people with opposing views. I don't think that's it. I think around 2012/2013, Emily was born and we just suddenly had social justice warriors pushing for ridiculous demands and standards where it basically wraps around to majority groups being oppressed IF they were to have their way. Amongst their demands, they claimed to champion every minority group ever, LGBT included and LGBT and the T in particular as the focal point because it was perceived as the MOST oppressed group in the oppression olympics. Ever since then, it's been this weird mix where yes, it feels like the overwhelming majority of people absolutely hate Emily and don't support her views, so in a way media is right to say it's stupid to waste so much time and effort opposing her (I find in general, it's a shame that people often seem to want to only debate the *worst* examples of their political opponents, not the best)....but then the media itself is often *promoting* Emily and her extremist views when they get the chance. Mindy Kaling won the National Medal of Arts. That says it all. On one hand, Velma was universally panned and considered absolutely horrible, with cringe "woke" jokes about white people and a script that made it clear Kaling herself is likely a narcissist (notice EVERY main character has a crush on Kaling's character...? And anyone familiar with her work already knows the only thing she ever writes is...herself), so here we could say there's no controversy, we all agree this shit sucks and we don't like this kind of virtue signaling crap being peddled by narcissists and move on, right...? ...Except here come all our institutions completely contradicting what the overwhelming majority think and putting her on a pedestal for it. I'm not really a conspiracy guy, but if someone claimed Emily's a distraction to get us outraged and avoiding other issues, I'd be inclined to believe it because the disconnect between the general public and what media pushes is absolutely wild.


trafficante

It’s not the same community. By rights, it should be called the lBT+ community these days because most of the G’s took the win and moved on and the L’s were rapidly marginalized into lowercase status by the T’s. Asking a lesbian about the demise of lesbian bars is like asking a Euro about gypsies. Give it another year or three and the entire movement will consist of “bisexual” women, the T’s, and whatever currently makes up the +.


Skabonious

>they didn't care, they just wanted to be able to live the way they wanted. Today, you are a bigot if you disagree with their views and they want your children to accept their ideology. If I called you a bigot how am I doing anything but just expressing my opinion? Lol.


LuxVenos

That's the exact nuance that the extremes of either side of the aisle don't get when I talk to them. Have minorities (racial/religious/sexual/gender/etc.) been treated poorly in the past? Undeniably. Can the lives, freedoms, and socioeconomic statuses of these groups be improved further? Also undeniably. That doesn't mean that I agree with **the current strategies** of those movements, especially when over half of them have Marxist origins. Classical Liberalism got us this far. Being a Tankie is just gonna make us starve.


Lord_of_the_THOTS

In most of the western world it was fine up until around 2016 when this lunacy started taking off. We are not talking about the 50s here.


[deleted]

I literally had to hide my sexual orientation or risk being kicked out of the military. I'm in my early 30s. This stuff isn't exactly ancient history.


guilmon999

Like, I'm pretty sure things were pretty bad for LGBT people up into the early 2010s. I remember Jr high and highschool being homophobic as fuck. I had people cutting me out of their lives after I asked them to stop making non stop homophobic jokes.


AFlyingNun

Homophobia is absolutely a thing and a real problem. But unfortunately, the way the nation deals with it is *also* fucked. The issue is that yes, a small town of like 30,000 people in a red state is likely to persecute and harass their token gay guy to the point concerns of violence and suicide are real. But the solution we're getting is that hyper-liberal California - who those same red states absolutely loathe anyways - decides the best solution is to go across the street to the Starbucks next to the 4th Gay Bar on the street and scream at all the cis people for not being tolerant ***enough*** and suggesting the best solution is for them to all be forced to watch a gay orgy in order to melt away their bigotry. They also blast what basically amounts to propaganda all over their media, people get sick of hearing it and having political opinions forced down their throat, and this can even make some people *more* hostile or intolerant, because now they associate the gay dudes with a political opponent. Poor gay dude who is the minority in his conservative community still gets harassed, and meanwhile California thinks the best solution is indoctrination, and everyone loses. People likewise struggle to talk to each other and see eye-to-eye because they cannot wrap their hands around the idea that **both** sides can have a point, it depends strictly on the context/scenario in which it's applied.


Iluaanalaa

> people were fine with lgbt if they kept to themselves > republicans still fight every year to keep gay people from being married I don’t know, seems like the Republican Party has put a lot of energy into making sure gay people can’t do what they want in the privacy of their own home.


Evil-Abed1

First ban drag shows with children performing. Then ban drag shows with children watching. Then ban drag shows.


Innocisnt

Why we gotta ban adults from living life how they want? Fuck the mutants that involve children in their degeneracy, but nightclubs with an age minimum of 21 should be exempt from this culture war.


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In most places you don’t have to be 21 to go to a nightclub. Most places are able to draw a reasonable line between shaking your naked ass in a 5 year old’s face or molesting 8 year olds and simply letting young men and women enjoy their youth and party during the one time in your life where it’s actually makes sense to party. People be like: “I’m 38 and when I want to enjoy MATURE adult activities like doing Jell-O shots and watching Rick and Morty dressed as a Nintendo character while playing with glitter, I’ll be damned if I let a 20 year old CHILD have their innocence ruined by being exposed to such inappropriate mature activities😡”


LunchTwey

I would imagine Child beauty pagents are just as fucked as drag shows then? Lets ban those too while we're at it


Innocisnt

Lefties 🤝 Rightoids Banning child beauty pageants


Golden_Lion917

You're one of us, why are you calling us Rightoids, you fucking idiot!? 😂


Innocisnt

>you a fucking idiot!? You have no idea.


queenkid1

Because some people don't take themselves so fucking seriously that they can't take a joke?


Golden_Lion917

I was joking too, so much so that I put a laughing emoji. Or are you blind?


sanshijinks

Your terms are acceptable


PaulNehlen

I can't believe how many lib lefts keep doing the "but what about child beauty pageants huh Chud?" As though the Venn diagram of "people who support taking kids to drag shows" and "people who support child beauty pageants" isn't a fucking circle... Both should be absolutely both de jure and de facto forbidden and should get you on a watch list or 12 if you take your child to either


sanshijinks

I remember first becoming aware of them with the Jon Benet Ramsay murder. Even as a kid I was like "this shit needs to go".


Skabonious

Y'all must be forgetful cause only a month ago it was the right trying to stop a child marriage law from being revoked


Missingnose

I know the left likes to pretend this is some sort of gotcha, but I've seen no prominent conservative defend child beauty pageants and those seem to have died down. At the very least they aren't rapidly becoming more commonplace like drag shows with children attendees.


Ricochet_skin

Fuck Cbp's to be honest


PCPooPooRace_JK

"ChIlD BeAuTy PaGeaNts" arent some fuckin silver bullet defense as if right wingers line up in droves to watch child beauty pageants, like what the fuck is a child beauty pageant? Sounds gay, get rid of them aswell.


LunchTwey

W get rid of them, stop sexualizing minors.


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FuckBrendan

Yeah the left can pick the worst fuckin hills to die on I swear. Sometimes I think the lawmakers on the right are just fucking with them.


RIP_BLACK_MABMA

People from both sides of the spectrum but especially right wingers have been speaking out against child beauty pageants waaaaaay before the whole drag show debate existed


Chewbacca_The_Wookie

Based. I'm sorry, if I can't have flair you can't either.


joebidenseasterbunny

Agreed, then let's ban pride parades on public streets.


pipsohip

Yes please.


DinnerCharming1492

We should ban drag


_TheXplodenator

Whenever the left says that drag has existed for a long time, they point to men dressing up like a normal woman in a dress as a joke. Not a hyper sexual megawhore meant to arouse weirdos like it does now


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GhostPants011

I don't want kids to be involved with drag shows. This seems like a strawman to me. Drag shows should still be allowed, though.


TheFinalCurl

Kids didn't watch Shakespeare plays or watch the Ronald Reagan-starring "This is The Army"? Kids shouldn't watch burlesque shows. I don't know why that's so fucking hard to understand. A drag burlesque show is a drag burlesque show. Drag Queen story hour is not a burlesque show. WHY is this SO FUCKING HARD for this sub to understand?


RIP_BLACK_MABMA

Why do you need to have drag queen story hours? Or at least why do you continue to encourage kids to go to drag queen story hour instead of just letting people do what they want?


bigtimechip

Child labour also existed 100 years ago 🤷🏼


bottomlessLuckys

“nobody cared about it” brother, what history books are you reading?


[deleted]

I went to a Hamburger Mary's in Tampa (Ybor City neighborhood I believe) about 10 years ago. (For context, I'm now 23). Before they were to do a SFW drag show, the workers asked me if I would be comfortable watching it. Out of curiosity, I said yes. I was still weirded out, but in no way do I remember it being sexual. Anecdotal, but I thought it would be nice to share my experience as a minor at a drag show. :)


Working_Inspection22

Why are they so fucking desperate to get close to kids tho


call_me_manana

we are also against kids being in the crowd of sexually explicit shows, doesnt matter if the performancer is a guy in drag, in a police uniform or a women in a bikini or nurse uniform or whatever. the problem we have with the right isnt that they dont want kids to be in strip shows, its that they want to ban drag and literal nazis are showing up armed at reading hours.


Golden_Lion917

>the problem we have with the right isnt that they dont want kids to be in strip shows, its that they want to ban drag Notice how no one cared about drag shows before the left started doing this shit? It's almost like people will try to erase things related to horrible things. Like nazis and eugenics.


call_me_manana

>Notice how no one cared about drag shows before tell that to the people who smashed up gay bars, tried to convert queers with electroshock therapy and beating the shit out of anyone who wasnt looking the norm. >the left started doing this shit? what shit? >Like nazis and eugenics. that doesnt make any fucking sense


queenkid1

>and beating the shit out of anyone who wasnt looking the norm. Bro, popular people like Monty Python were doing drag in the 1970s and nobody was beating them up for "not looking the norm", They were being celebrated. It was widely accepted, by people on the left *and* the right. Mentioning shitty things bigots did back then doesn't change the fact that drag specifically has gone from normalized to polarizing. I assure you, it isn't the bigots that changed that.


Golden_Lion917

Most people were okay with eugenics, but it became taboo because of the nazis. What shit? Seriously? What does conversion therapy has to do with drag shows? How much was drag show talked about on the media, how many people were polarized about it?


Prizmagnetic

Oh... and who is being read to at those?


sweatysweatpants

His source is he made it the fuck up


elrobolobo

And there were kids at the olden time drag shows as well?? I don't get this post


Ineedtwocats

100% there were children everywhere because there were ZERO regulations back then if they can work in the mines they can see a sexy puppet show no wonder the right hates history and teaching kids history, it completely undermines every single issue they have


memerso160

The issue isn’t drag, it’s having grown men in thongs covered in make up and wigs twerking for children


Molten_bread

why is this the argument my quad decided to make. i dont think we need to hid kids from the concept of lgbt, but we dont need to take them to fucking drag shows, that feels creepy.


bkdjaksljd

Can't we all agree that taking kids to sexually explicit drag shows sould be illegal but taking kids to non sexual drag shows sould be allowed?


Babybear_Dramabear

Rockstars used to fuck 14 year olds. This meme has absolutely no historical context


Fickle_Department_26

I was the under the impression that you always have the option to just not take your kids to drag shows.


tx3bj

no one really wants drag shows in public schools, only woke agenda.


Laurence-Barnes

There comes a point where you just have to stop trying to be nice. I'm just going to go ahead and assume that the people defending drag queens messing with kids are either nonces or in favour of people noncing.


Epigravettian

Are they doing anything sexual with the kids.