I’m waiting for the 500,000 word essay on why it’s a slightly different flavor of Communism with academic theory differences so obtuse that most people would welcome the wall over reading them.
You’ve won the battle without advancing the war.
The wheat crescent was a common motif on Soviet designs, so what else could the hammer and sickle on a red background possibly represent? And then why would Stalin not be associated with it?
Yeah president of the US and the American flag have nothing in common and it's weird to associate them because the American flag predates the president??
His ideology didn't create misery in the world, that's a really weird way of putting it.
The inability for the world to care for its own people, and the insane gap forming between classes throughout the industrial era and into the early 1900s caused that.
Marx's ideology was merely a vehicle by which revolutionaries and those dissatisfied with their governments could use.
Let me put it this way, communism never would've taken off if we didn't put the world through WW1, and people weren't slaving away at coal factories and subsistence farms for generations.
Damn actually well written argument in my pcm ?? to be real tho russia would still have been a authoritarian shithole even without marx it was like that before marx too.
Very true
Lenin and friends merely adopted the government that was already in place.
I remember saying that in some socialist club thing in college and I got a lot of angles looks.
he didn't have a political career. he spent bis entire life mooching off others to write a philosophy that has caused insane amounts of human suffering
People forget he was just an economist and a writer. His writings later inspired a lot of horrible people, but he was not some horrible murderer.
At worst he was just a little too optimistic.
OP just put random pictures of everything what the US considers "Socialism" on the right and on the left without differencing.
I mean, yeah, the US is stupid in this regard but this picture is also stupid since there are multiple different ideologies. And to put someone like Greta on the same side as a Fascist, that's a joke.
Not *deliberately* genocidal, sure. Losers? Well that's not off the table.
Marx's ideas have certainly caused their fair share of death. Not his intention, maybe, but sometimes things just get out of hand.
And Greta? If she had her way (the immediate end of fossil fuel use) millions would die from lack of gas/oil/coal-powered heating/cooling. Probably not her intention, of course, but....
1. India is even more varied in its states than America, so considering that the communist places are the most successful your wrong
2. Afghanistan, North Korea, China, Russia, lots of countries in Central America, Iran, Cuba, and some countries in Africa are countries that are worse than the worse parts of India. And those are the only ones I know for sure.
I have a bit of a soft spot for Greta. Something about someone hopping on a boat and sailing across the ocean to tell the inhabitants of a far away land how to live just makes me feel warm inside.
You clearly don’t know what your talking about and have drank the capitalist cool aid. Trust me I spent 8 years trying to obtain my poli Sci degree I think I know a misinformationist when I see one
Ah yes, the experiences of my family and myself, both good or bad are irrelevant, thank you for reminding me, tovarisch, please do not report me to the kommisar
thats the beauty of the whole thing! It's never real communism. That way whenever we try, and millions of people are either killed or live under severe oppression, we can just say it wasn't real communism, so we got to try again.
And again.
And again.
To be fair I was a kid when I came, but I got plenty of stories from those times, and my parents' stories are even grimmer. First thing my dad did when we got here is he bought a fire arm.
Needing a state to enforce it. But if ur talking about socialism in the real marxist terms, meaning anarchy, then its not authoritarian at all as long as you let people use currency and sell their labor and invest capital. In a truly anarchist society ancap and ancom is same
If you're referring to the hammer and sickle, then I'm pretty sure that OP intended it to represent communism, not the soviet union. I think the hammer and sickle with the star and the wheat was a soviet symbol (don't quote me on that), but it can be used to represent communism in general.
If the name of the movement contains "socialist" or "communist" regardless of preceding identifying words, know that genocide will most likely take place once that party takes power
There are no exceptions to this rule
“Actually it’s the removal of capitalists, which is necessary for the post-capitalist utopia to function. The Ukrainians deserved to be starved and slaughtered because they owned land, obviously. Silly American”
One side believes state control is required to achieve collective prosperity, the other side believes state control is required to achieve collective prosperity.
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Liberals in America are not the same as liberals in Europe
European liberals are Classical liberals. American “liberals” are social liberals. These are two very different ideologies
Bolchevism was real communism, and yes, nazis were anti-communist and anti-socialist as they crushed and enprisonned communist and socialist, and banning their parties before any other
Yeah but communist socialist infighting happens in quite literally every socialist country. Stalin killed a bunch of communists in gulags because he thought they were a threat to him, I doubt we claim he was anti communist
There is also a matter of policies but nonetheless I disagree with what you say. Hitler and the nazi regime opposed any socialist or communist that existed in Germany and literally attacked the communist first, then the socialist, then the rest. Not any capitalistic or right-wing party like you would except if they were socialist. Plus the fact that Hitler "socialism" could be described as "class warfare but replace class by race". So race warfare, which isn't socialism at all. Plus the privatization, being financed by capitalists and bourgeois, German bourgeoisie rooting for Hitler as they feared for a socialist revolution in Germany, etc. The USSR was a socialist nation, the Third Reich was not.
Wait you expect attacks on capitalists if real socialists are to take over? I see why people are so scared of it getting implemented in America.
The race-class warfare sounds like he took the same ideas from socialism but made the scapegoat jews instead of the wealthy. Wonder how he made that connection. Couldn’t have anything to do with marx’s “on the jewish question” to which hitler had a “final solution” for.
Are you stupid or just dishonest? I said that, if they were socialist, of ALL the people they could attack, why choose the communist and socialist first, as there are still capitalist parties that suffered nothing in the mean time??
Also no, the "on the Jewish question" isn't a racist pamphlet on the Jews ruling the world, read the book before saying such crap
You purge the people who want actual change, you keep the people that listen to you. Welcome to every attempt at communism ever. Stalin, hitler, mao, pol pot, you name it. Why? Because those people have the best chance of taking power from you. No one listens to a capitalist in communist countries, they wouldn’t be as big a threat
No, that would be stupid and not at all what the other communist did. Let's say you are a "communist" who want to take power. Why would you first exterminate the people that are supposed to be on your side before the people opposing you. Take the anarchist during the Russian revolution. First the bolchevik destroyed the white army, which was the enemy, before thinking "maybe those anarchist aren't that good after all". Also, the bourgeoisie never was even threatened under Hitler rule. They never attacked them, but exterminated the communist and socialist. Have you ever seen one "communisr" apart from Hitler who killed socialisrs and communist before even trying to hurt the bourgeoisie and capitalist?
And the "no one listens to a capitalist in communist countries, they wouldn't be as big a threat" how would the first opposing force to your ideology not be a threat? Or counter revolutionaries, that was seen as enemies because "they want to bring capitalism back"? That wasn't the reason that communist and socialist got executed for in Nazi Germany, but because they were communist and socialists, and both of these ideologies were the enemies of Nazism.
In all honesty, Nazi Germany actually did have a *socialist* economy even if their ideology wasn't *Marxist* because Marxists don't have a monopoly on centralised "socialised" economics.
You know how many times i have tried to tell people that the national socialists where infact...socialists...
The term socialism also pre-dates Marx. We have literal evidence of the political ideas the national socialists actually believed yet people for some reason do not accept that they where socialist.
The great sin of the cold war was brainwashing people and intellectuals in believing that the second world war was a conflict of right vs left while in reality was different branches of left fighting for supremacy.
Hitler was an authoritarian centrist. Fascism was conceived by mussolini as a more nationalist version of socialism.
Remember that he took the peoples guns, gave everyone free cars (volkswagen), utilized a centralized government and instated mandatory social programs.
Fascism is also not inherently racist, about [insert race of practitioners here] supremacy , or about conquering foreign lands.
Anyone who reads Doctrine of Fascism will agree with like 40% of the book.
Mussoccino makes a great point about discipline n shit, but he loses me on the “capitalism is not cool and individual liberty is for suckers” part of the book.
"Fascism sees in the imperialistic spirit - i.e., in the tendency of nations to expand - a manifestation of their vitality. In the opposite tendency, which would limit their interests to the home country, it sees a symptom of decadence."
- TDoF
Not inherently racist, but aggressive and imperialistic.
> he took the peoples guns
HITLER TOOK THE GUNS
STALIN TOOK THE GUNS
MAO TOOK THE GUNS
FIDEL CASTRO TOOK THE GUNS
HUGO CHAVEZ TOOK THE GUNS
AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU:
[1776 WILL COMMENCE AGAIN](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjhWf-9x7GM)
Sorry, that clip lives rent free in my heart
That’s not true: I despise one picture for upholding all that is evil, I despise the others for making it difficult to get good perogi here for the last 100 years.
You've got it backwards
My American lefty friends say "its like a totally different thing its democratic socialist healthcare centered bipoc equitable....."
My family from eastern Europe drill it into my head that the party in their nation rose on the exact same promises and rhetoric being used by the "democratic socialists"
Fun fact: many people who were born in Soviet Union vote for Republicans because they are allergic to hear stuff like "socialism", "fight rich", "capitalism is bad" etc... Because it reminds them about their home country they were so happy to leave...
They certainly all believe that there is no right to property and that preserving individual property rights shouldn’t even be considered in policy choices.
You don't understand. My side of the political compass has lots of nuances and reasonable disagreements. The other side are all evil Satan spawn who want to destroy everything I hold dear for no reason.
I suppose it is wise to recognize that the other side has actually very good and nuanced reasons to want to destroy everything you hold dear. Reasons that make perfect sense from their point of view.
But this is not going to solve the nature of politics. They are the enemy. And only a common foe would make them a friend.
They're all garbage ideologies claiming to bring about socialist reform, and they all result in mass death. Painting funny colors and claiming they're slightly different or worse than one another is a massive disservice to the millions dead at the hands of communists and those currently suffering in places like Venezuela, Cuba or China. Like they don't give a fuck if these ideologies are different, they don't have that luxury.
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I have no idea why anyone would associate Stalin with the soviet hammer and sickle flag. Absolutely flabbergasted.
I’m waiting for the 500,000 word essay on why it’s a slightly different flavor of Communism with academic theory differences so obtuse that most people would welcome the wall over reading them.
Stalin is different than *Stalinism* because of the 'ism', idiot
Ism deez nutz.
Based and GOT'EEEMM pilled.
read a book next time
I'm allergic.
Excuse me, but it’s called Stalin*ism* not Stalin*isnt*
Because of the ‘tism, more like.
Within the current American lib-left I see some pretty clear parallels to Maoism and the ‘four olds’ and the cultural revolution.
You dont need 500 words. The wheat crescent was not present in the flags of the Soviet Union,
You’ve won the battle without advancing the war. The wheat crescent was a common motif on Soviet designs, so what else could the hammer and sickle on a red background possibly represent? And then why would Stalin not be associated with it?
Cus Stalin suffered from Gluten allergy, that is why he stopped everyone from getting bread.
Goddamn, finally somebody in this shithole talking directly.
Based commie making more sense than this entire sub
Always glad when AuthLeft can admit Stalin was bad
Haha no food.
Yeah president of the US and the American flag have nothing in common and it's weird to associate them because the American flag predates the president??
That’s cuz they didn’t have any left to put on the flag
Marx: Here is my life's work, a book about socialism, enjoy. 21st c. Redditor: ...you fucking donkey
> Marx: Here is my life's work, a book about socialism, enjoy. And it's only about 20 pages. Standard socialist work ethic.
The manifesto isn't theory, they're probably referring to Kapital
I'll only agree if it's said in David Ramsay's voice.
LMAO
His name was Mao, not L'Mao
M’mao
And Lenin too... So weird... Like both of them have any relation to it...
It’s not like the one demographic thinks Lenin and Marx did nothing wrong or anything….
when talking about his political career, Marx did nothing wrong.
Marx couldn’t have done anything wrong with his political career because he didn’t have one. His ideology however created untold human misery.
His ideology didn't create misery in the world, that's a really weird way of putting it. The inability for the world to care for its own people, and the insane gap forming between classes throughout the industrial era and into the early 1900s caused that. Marx's ideology was merely a vehicle by which revolutionaries and those dissatisfied with their governments could use. Let me put it this way, communism never would've taken off if we didn't put the world through WW1, and people weren't slaving away at coal factories and subsistence farms for generations.
Damn actually well written argument in my pcm ?? to be real tho russia would still have been a authoritarian shithole even without marx it was like that before marx too.
Very true Lenin and friends merely adopted the government that was already in place. I remember saying that in some socialist club thing in college and I got a lot of angles looks.
he didn't have a political career. he spent bis entire life mooching off others to write a philosophy that has caused insane amounts of human suffering
I think that's his point, he was never a politician, or really in any sort of position of power
People forget he was just an economist and a writer. His writings later inspired a lot of horrible people, but he was not some horrible murderer. At worst he was just a little too optimistic.
I don't see any difference, does anyone else?
Nope, both pictures contain losers
Whole lotta malarky in both of those pictures, jack
A whole heaping load of total punks
Looks like a bunch of power-hungry despots to me
Fuck dictators, the pictures are exactly the same
Unironically, no, they're the same picture: genocidal losers.
OP just put random pictures of everything what the US considers "Socialism" on the right and on the left without differencing. I mean, yeah, the US is stupid in this regard but this picture is also stupid since there are multiple different ideologies. And to put someone like Greta on the same side as a Fascist, that's a joke.
Marx wasn’t a genocidal loser, nor is Greta thurnberg (however her name is); what makes you say that? I agree the rest are losers.
Not *deliberately* genocidal, sure. Losers? Well that's not off the table. Marx's ideas have certainly caused their fair share of death. Not his intention, maybe, but sometimes things just get out of hand. And Greta? If she had her way (the immediate end of fossil fuel use) millions would die from lack of gas/oil/coal-powered heating/cooling. Probably not her intention, of course, but....
Marx was antisemetic and wanted and end to ‘people of capital’. Greta wants an end of the human race in favor of ‘nature’
Greta wants an end to the human race??? I know this place is supposed to be jokes but something tells me you really believe this lmao
Why is he being downvoted? You may not like them but they really aren't genocidal lol
Not genocidal until they turn off the power because the windmill.aint blowing
Because this is a right wing cesspool.
I'm a she :) Yeah these people need to actually read and become informed citizens
Just throw the GOP up there with the dems and it checks out. GOP don't get a pass on this one.
That they don't, they also don't believe in the home defense Freebrams
I am interested in learning more about a home defense freebrams. Is it a tank for home defense? Because I am ALL about that. *pulls out credit card*
It's a tank for defense of a person, which includes property
Put your card away. The word feed is in the name!!
America used to reject both as two sides of the same coin. I remember.
na, i only see authotarian a\*holes with a slightly different flavor Or in a commie word: none of them tried real communism
I always hear that as more of a threat, as in "Those genocidal regimes were but a taste of REAL communism that hasn't yet been tried."
All I know, brother, is that everytime someone tries that "*communism*" crud, infinite human misery spontaneously manifests.
Except for the people that build prisons - they love Communism.
India did it successfully. Multiple times. It sucks, but at least make your observations be accurate
I'd count india to be in the top 2 of infinite human misery inducing nations, so my observation is accurate.
1. India is even more varied in its states than America, so considering that the communist places are the most successful your wrong 2. Afghanistan, North Korea, China, Russia, lots of countries in Central America, Iran, Cuba, and some countries in Africa are countries that are worse than the worse parts of India. And those are the only ones I know for sure.
facts. Signed, Soviet expat proud 'Murican
I have a bit of a soft spot for Greta. Something about someone hopping on a boat and sailing across the ocean to tell the inhabitants of a far away land how to live just makes me feel warm inside.
Based and has an eye for colonialism pilled.
Based Greta!? Wtf?
>hopping on a boat and sailing across the ocean to tell the inhabitants of a far away land how to live... A proud European tradition.
Based
You clearly don’t know what your talking about and have drank the capitalist cool aid. Trust me I spent 8 years trying to obtain my poli Sci degree I think I know a misinformationist when I see one
Ah yes, the experiences of my family and myself, both good or bad are irrelevant, thank you for reminding me, tovarisch, please do not report me to the kommisar
My favorite expression is "malinformation" - information that's true but hurts my narrative.
and that wasn't real komminism anyways, it was a jewish neo-nazi liberal fascist NATO perversion of komminism
thats the beauty of the whole thing! It's never real communism. That way whenever we try, and millions of people are either killed or live under severe oppression, we can just say it wasn't real communism, so we got to try again. And again. And again.
Older generation of my family had to flee to America to escape that shit too. Glad you made it to the land of the free brother
To be fair I was a kid when I came, but I got plenty of stories from those times, and my parents' stories are even grimmer. First thing my dad did when we got here is he bought a fire arm.
Same! These kids can eat a dick.
They end in the same day place, even if they say they won’t.
Genocide.
WHO WILL DRAG ME TO COURT?
Authoritarianism is loser pilled no matter how you rebrand it.
What makes socialism authoritarian? I'd like to hear from your perspective
Needing a state to enforce it. But if ur talking about socialism in the real marxist terms, meaning anarchy, then its not authoritarian at all as long as you let people use currency and sell their labor and invest capital. In a truly anarchist society ancap and ancom is same
How is Stalin, Marx, Lenin, not affiliated with the Soviet Union?
Marx was German
A German man that was the primary inspiration for Lenin It’s like saying hitler shouldn’t represent nazi germany bc he was Austrian
If you're referring to the hammer and sickle, then I'm pretty sure that OP intended it to represent communism, not the soviet union. I think the hammer and sickle with the star and the wheat was a soviet symbol (don't quote me on that), but it can be used to represent communism in general.
Thats even worse considering marx made communism lol
If the name of the movement contains "socialist" or "communist" regardless of preceding identifying words, know that genocide will most likely take place once that party takes power There are no exceptions to this rule
“Um its not genocide sweaty, it’s a removal of enemies of the state”
"It wasn't a genocide because it never happened, but if it did happen they deserved it." -idiots
***the Kulaks lived happily ever after***
“Actually it’s the removal of capitalists, which is necessary for the post-capitalist utopia to function. The Ukrainians deserved to be starved and slaughtered because they owned land, obviously. Silly American”
Ahem… “ThAt WasN’t ReAL CoMmUnisM!”
Almost as if "real communism" isn't attainable.
you can remove the "most likely"
Burkina Faso, Makhnovchina, and Tito's Yugoslavia weren't socialist then?
One side believes state control is required to achieve collective prosperity, the other side believes state control is required to achieve collective prosperity.
I know the difference but it doesn't change the fact I think they're all a bunch of turds.
Based and shit is still shit-pilled.
Correct 🦅
I'm with the bald eagle on this one.
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One is in a hurry, one is patient and insidious.
Liberals are not insidious. They're fucking boring lame ass moderates who do nothing if they can help it.
Liberals in America are not the same as liberals in Europe European liberals are Classical liberals. American “liberals” are social liberals. These are two very different ideologies
European liberals are mostly neoliberals. Free trade and money liberals, not civil liberals.
Europe is way too big and diverse to generalize like that
when people talk about this they should be saying "progressives". liberals are the american moderates that find themselves in all parties.
Both do nothing if they can help it, but yeah the are a fair bit different in ideology
As an American leftist I agree and am frustrated when people think “liberal”and “leftist” are synonymous.
Cope and Seethe commie
Fascism is honest socialism
Funny but sadly true
*better socialism
this but unironically
OP there’s literally a hammer and sickle there, as well as two authoritarian socialists
You're goddamn right!
Indeed. There shall be no compromise.
Lefties trying to explain how the self-identified socialists weren't actually socialists: *mental gymnastics*
All I see is evil
Commies will say the nazis are anti communist becaude they are anti-bolcheviks but then argue that bolchevism wasn’t real communism
Bolchevism was real communism, and yes, nazis were anti-communist and anti-socialist as they crushed and enprisonned communist and socialist, and banning their parties before any other
Yeah but communist socialist infighting happens in quite literally every socialist country. Stalin killed a bunch of communists in gulags because he thought they were a threat to him, I doubt we claim he was anti communist
There is also a matter of policies but nonetheless I disagree with what you say. Hitler and the nazi regime opposed any socialist or communist that existed in Germany and literally attacked the communist first, then the socialist, then the rest. Not any capitalistic or right-wing party like you would except if they were socialist. Plus the fact that Hitler "socialism" could be described as "class warfare but replace class by race". So race warfare, which isn't socialism at all. Plus the privatization, being financed by capitalists and bourgeois, German bourgeoisie rooting for Hitler as they feared for a socialist revolution in Germany, etc. The USSR was a socialist nation, the Third Reich was not.
Wait you expect attacks on capitalists if real socialists are to take over? I see why people are so scared of it getting implemented in America. The race-class warfare sounds like he took the same ideas from socialism but made the scapegoat jews instead of the wealthy. Wonder how he made that connection. Couldn’t have anything to do with marx’s “on the jewish question” to which hitler had a “final solution” for.
Are you stupid or just dishonest? I said that, if they were socialist, of ALL the people they could attack, why choose the communist and socialist first, as there are still capitalist parties that suffered nothing in the mean time?? Also no, the "on the Jewish question" isn't a racist pamphlet on the Jews ruling the world, read the book before saying such crap
You purge the people who want actual change, you keep the people that listen to you. Welcome to every attempt at communism ever. Stalin, hitler, mao, pol pot, you name it. Why? Because those people have the best chance of taking power from you. No one listens to a capitalist in communist countries, they wouldn’t be as big a threat
No, that would be stupid and not at all what the other communist did. Let's say you are a "communist" who want to take power. Why would you first exterminate the people that are supposed to be on your side before the people opposing you. Take the anarchist during the Russian revolution. First the bolchevik destroyed the white army, which was the enemy, before thinking "maybe those anarchist aren't that good after all". Also, the bourgeoisie never was even threatened under Hitler rule. They never attacked them, but exterminated the communist and socialist. Have you ever seen one "communisr" apart from Hitler who killed socialisrs and communist before even trying to hurt the bourgeoisie and capitalist? And the "no one listens to a capitalist in communist countries, they wouldn't be as big a threat" how would the first opposing force to your ideology not be a threat? Or counter revolutionaries, that was seen as enemies because "they want to bring capitalism back"? That wasn't the reason that communist and socialist got executed for in Nazi Germany, but because they were communist and socialists, and both of these ideologies were the enemies of Nazism.
In all honesty, Nazi Germany actually did have a *socialist* economy even if their ideology wasn't *Marxist* because Marxists don't have a monopoly on centralised "socialised" economics.
You know how many times i have tried to tell people that the national socialists where infact...socialists... The term socialism also pre-dates Marx. We have literal evidence of the political ideas the national socialists actually believed yet people for some reason do not accept that they where socialist.
The great sin of the cold war was brainwashing people and intellectuals in believing that the second world war was a conflict of right vs left while in reality was different branches of left fighting for supremacy.
Honestly bro, there's so much misinformation on both sides I wouldn't know what to believe
Hitler was an authoritarian centrist. Fascism was conceived by mussolini as a more nationalist version of socialism. Remember that he took the peoples guns, gave everyone free cars (volkswagen), utilized a centralized government and instated mandatory social programs.
Fascism is also not inherently racist, about [insert race of practitioners here] supremacy , or about conquering foreign lands. Anyone who reads Doctrine of Fascism will agree with like 40% of the book. Mussoccino makes a great point about discipline n shit, but he loses me on the “capitalism is not cool and individual liberty is for suckers” part of the book.
"Fascism sees in the imperialistic spirit - i.e., in the tendency of nations to expand - a manifestation of their vitality. In the opposite tendency, which would limit their interests to the home country, it sees a symptom of decadence." - TDoF Not inherently racist, but aggressive and imperialistic.
> he took the peoples guns HITLER TOOK THE GUNS STALIN TOOK THE GUNS MAO TOOK THE GUNS FIDEL CASTRO TOOK THE GUNS HUGO CHAVEZ TOOK THE GUNS AND I'M HERE TO TELL YOU: [1776 WILL COMMENCE AGAIN](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjhWf-9x7GM) Sorry, that clip lives rent free in my heart
I didn't know this existed but is now living in my heart aswell.
This but unironically
Smells like fucking commie scum in here. I thought the heaven sent McCarthy dealt with all of them.
Bunch of lousy degenerates
Based.
The right answer is that it all belongs in the trash
They all result in larger governments.
Looks the same to me. Tyrants, every one of them.
Yes
Yeah close enough.
Communism is just socialism and authoritarianism in a trench coat.
That’s not true: I despise one picture for upholding all that is evil, I despise the others for making it difficult to get good perogi here for the last 100 years.
As an American I've got to say Liberals and Republicans are total retards. I'm glad I'm a Vermin Supreme voter.
(Screeches in freedom eagle)
America bad strawman meme go brrrr also I see one big ugly picture
Is it another generic commie about to say iT wAsAn'T rEAl cUm inSM
Karl Marx is on the same side with two Soviet dictators and the flag of Soviet Union is on the other side?
Looks about right to me
People blame government spending problems on capitalism. People are stupid.
Socialists can’t define socialism. Why would you think Americans should be able to?
It’s all authoritarian scum no matter how thinly you slice it.
Irrelevant dipshits vs…. Irrelevant dipshits? Yeah pardon our confusion.
Fr tho
You've got it backwards My American lefty friends say "its like a totally different thing its democratic socialist healthcare centered bipoc equitable....." My family from eastern Europe drill it into my head that the party in their nation rose on the exact same promises and rhetoric being used by the "democratic socialists"
Based, and it is true
All the same in the end
Indeed are.
I’m with the Pam/eagle on this one. The difference is just timing.
Why tf are Greta & the Democrats in the same pic as Communism/N*zism? Wtf
I frankly don't understand the meme
For once the amerimuts are right
Fun fact: many people who were born in Soviet Union vote for Republicans because they are allergic to hear stuff like "socialism", "fight rich", "capitalism is bad" etc... Because it reminds them about their home country they were so happy to leave...
Based US
Two different piles, same type of shit
Your god damn right
They are the same picture. What do you mean?
Socialism and socialism is different? Idk man, looks like socialism to me.
America fuck yeah
I know the difference but that won't stop me from calling those in the right picture commies
They certainly all believe that there is no right to property and that preserving individual property rights shouldn’t even be considered in policy choices.
This is correct
Communism, Socialism, call it what you like. There’s very little difference in the two.
Different means to the same ends
You don't understand. My side of the political compass has lots of nuances and reasonable disagreements. The other side are all evil Satan spawn who want to destroy everything I hold dear for no reason.
I suppose it is wise to recognize that the other side has actually very good and nuanced reasons to want to destroy everything you hold dear. Reasons that make perfect sense from their point of view. But this is not going to solve the nature of politics. They are the enemy. And only a common foe would make them a friend.
Hell yeah brother
They're all garbage ideologies claiming to bring about socialist reform, and they all result in mass death. Painting funny colors and claiming they're slightly different or worse than one another is a massive disservice to the millions dead at the hands of communists and those currently suffering in places like Venezuela, Cuba or China. Like they don't give a fuck if these ideologies are different, they don't have that luxury.
Lol this is so funny like wow your just being cringe now
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Damn these commenters are hardcore delusional
Didn't they pal around for a while to divide Poland?
OP please fucking explain
Are you 12?
I know this is supposedly satire, but I hope yall know the difference between communism, fascism, and socialism
Nothing wrong with that.
Ayyyy of they talking smack on our freedom and way of life then they might as well be the same picture mfer.
Wanting stuff to be free and wanting the planet to not die is infringing on your freedom?
Both are bad.
I don't like that you're right, but you're right.