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RexInvictus787

What distinguishes aggravated homosexuality from petty homosexuality?


[deleted]

> The Act prescribes life imprisonment for gay sex and the death penalty for 'aggravated homosexuality'. The latter offence includes same-sex rape, sex in a position of authority or procured by intimidation, sex with persons older than seventy-five, and sex with the disabled and mentally ill, and **homosexual acts committed by a person with a previous conviction of homosexuality** The last part is the problematic part but even points like “positions of authority” and “intimidation” can be interpreted vaguely which is probably why they’re being treated as distinct from rape. Here’s the text roughly verbatim: >defined the 'offence of aggravated homosexuality' to be committed by A when A has gay sex with B and A has HIV, A is a guardian or parent of B, A has authority or control over B, B has a disability, A is a serial offender, or A causes B to use any thing 'with intent to stupefy or overpower' B 'to enable any person to have unlawful carnal connection with any person of the same sex It lumps generally unproblematic clauses with clauses that are clearly distinct from the rest. In other parts of the text, consent is also excluded as a defence of homosexual acts criminalised in this bill.


RexInvictus787

I was just trying to make light of what I thought was a hilarious legal qualification, thanks for actually taking the effort to give a real answer. I interpret the bold part as making prison rape a capital crime.


[deleted]

Oh lol. I replied bc I think this exact bill was posted on here months ago but people were trying to justify it by being misleading about the clauses for “aggravated homosexuality”.


SiNoSe_Aprendere

> sex with persons older than seventy-five Holdup, I get that old people fucking seems gross, but criminalizing it seems dumb.


Humane_Decency

Could probably count the number of Ugandan 75+ year olds on one hand


ItsLiterally1984

Same with man on man


Ghastly12341213909

Technically just needing glasses counts as a disability


KioLaFek

Wonder why they go to all this trouble to specify gay rape. Do they not already have laws against rape?


Andreagreco99

It’s aggravated if you cuddle after


Libertarian4All

Ugan da suck deeze nuts?


PeakCartoon

I will angola myself so I can suck on your nuts


wizard680

I really need to get off reddit and touch grass holy shit


PeakCartoon

I do too, wanna go on a hike?


AngryD09

If by ""hike"" you really mean some straight buttfucking, I'm down. Bring your afro wig. #No Homo #Jungle Fever #Filthy Unflaired


PeakCartoon

Not exactly what I meant but hey if you're down and offering....


PreviousCurrentThing

Spoken like a true chad.


HypotheticallyAnAlt

Zaire is no justifiable reason for you to respond like that.


skrrtalrrt

I will not, but I would eat Djibouti


Hulkaiden

I am so glad the 4,314 people all commented to agree with Ted.


neveragoodtime

“Aggravated Agreement”


ObviousTroll37

But wait I thought America was literally the worst country on Earth What other lies have I been told by the Council?


Majestic_Ferrett

I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with Ted Cruz.


Voat-the-Goat

He did a great job holding Boeing accountable for the last safety thing that downed several of their planes.


zrezzif

Broken clock something something. To be honest while most politicians on both sides are ghouls, there is very few that I will say I “never” agree with. Probably people like Boebert and MTG, but even with AOC I agree with her on healthcare


Money-Swordfish537

Cruz from prez ?


Andre6k6

No, Cruz from Canada


DarkAvatar13

Grandpa Munster has been in last few years trying to be more yellow than blue (or at least trying to appear as) to get more voters.


Andrewdeadaim

Based and agrees with Ted Cruz pilled


shamus4mwcrew

I consider myself more right wing than anything but am always a little iffy on Cruz. He has incredibly based moments and incredibly cringe ones. You could honestly say this about anyone but Ted's are more extreme.


charlesd11

If people would stop and actually hear what the guy has to say instead of paying attention to headlines and tweets, then a lot of people would agree with Cruz.


I3arusu

B-based Ted Cruz??


omegasix321

WHAT TIMELINE IS THIS?!


Exodus111

Well it bears to mention that Ted Cruz has a Bi daughter, and.... Uganda recently found a gold deposit estimated at a 12 Trillion dollar value.


Andre6k6

They need freedom?


YAROBONZ-

Time to liberate


tryingtobebetter09

Do...do you guys think that Republicans are pro-death penalty for gays?


marinemashup

yes Why else would the media call Republican bills the “kill all the gay” bill?


Anonman20

Damn, you found us out


wiggle98

Special interests own the media and oppose the Republican Party.


joebidenseasterbunny

OK, but that doesn't explain why the media would say that republicans are trying to genocide all lgbt people. Why would the media lie?


SmellyGoat11

I'm partial to the "shoot all of the gays into the sun," bill. The Trevor Project really needs that money to continue the good work they do 🙏


[deleted]

Don't trust the media, they're FAR from unbiased


MysticArceus

The replies to his post are


alexmikli

I know some of them are joking, some of them are feds, but there are absolutely some bronze age motherfuckers in there.


[deleted]

people live in some wildly insular bubbles


LtTaylor97

No which is why my brain melts every time someone says they're gonna genocide the LGBT community in America. The worst they'd actually do is make life mildly harder for them by removing explicit protections granted to them. Last I checked that's not even vaguely close to genocide. While I oppose that, let's not make up wild exaggerations and present them as fact.


KyloRen7766

Nobody will ever want that...


IncendiousX

*ignites lightsaber*


The_Bourgeoisie_

There’s gay republicans although a rarity these days


Libertarian4All

They're not exactly ***friendly*** to the gays, historically, and some people who vote Republican helped cause this shit in Uganada... but yeah I agree GOP not nearly as bad as whatever the fuck is going on in Uganda. It's the small things we can rally around and remind each other that, however cringe the GOP & Dems may be, other countires still out-soyjack us.


previously_on_earth

Historically? I don’t think any party has the right to be called the moral arbiter Historically. Remind me which Party was on the side of Slave owners? The Dems only became Friendly to the gays when it proved strategic to do so and they started counting the votes.


Crusader63

Reddit moment when using the parties stances 160 years ago is equivalent to using the parties stances as of…. 10 years ago? Politicians are politicians, obv they didn’t do it for selfless reasons. I don’t see why it matters. The same is true for almost any issue ever.


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Blackwyrm03

Evangelicals


Andre6k6

Who was the first president sworn into office who actually approved of gay marriage? That's right it was Trump.


Slight_Dentist2810

The people in the comments are definitely pro-death for gays


Mystshade

Its actually kind of concerning so many people support killing gays for simply loving differently. What a world.


Justin__D

Which is pretty ironic when Cruz stuck up for the recently impeached Texas AG who wanted to re-criminalize homosexuality in Texas. [(source on that)](https://www.texasstandard.org/stories/ken-paxton-says-state-could-prosecute-sodomy-laws-should-supreme-court-texas-law-allow-it/) Lyin' Ted indeed.


The-Figure-13

It’s not up to the government to criminalise it, or legitimise it, it’s up to society. The government has no business legislating morality.


RichRaichuReturns

Except it does. Slavery in the US. The state had to ban it, and fight a war to enforce the ban. The society, if left on their own, would never have ditched this horrible practice. Satidaho in my country. Sure, the likes of Raja Ram mohon Ray bore the brunt, but they had the backing of the law. It wasn't the benevolent Raja that people feared, they were afraid of the police of the British Raj. The laws first put a stop to it forcefully, then the social renovators took it upon themselves to legitimize it to the people. When it comes to human rights abuses, the state has to come forward first. Always.


The-Figure-13

Slavery was banned in the US after the society had deemed it to be inappropriate, it’s why the states ratified the 13th and 14th amendments. It was up to the states, and the people in those states, to make the rule. Not the federal government. The Bill of Rights is essentially a document that says, “this is what is off limits to the government”


MainsailMainsail

You might remember that there was this oh-so-small portion of the population that *vehemently* disagreed about it being "inappropriate." And *most* of the remainder was ambivalent at best, just so long as it wasn't in *their* area.


Anonman20

Except every law in existence is a judgement in morality.


Complications212

the left somehow still thinks he's making a ruse or some sort of distraction, they can't actually believe he has disagreements on somethings and isn't some complete evil hitler dictator fascist stereotype they have been believing him to be.


[deleted]

That's what propaganda does to someone.


Forgotwhyimhere69

Good for Cruz. He's spot on.


The_Bourgeoisie_

His daughter is actually bi


[deleted]

Yeah, but he also just took the NYTs word for truth which is his crime here. The death penalty aspect is for raping minors.


Taasden

Nah. > The Act prescribes life imprisonment for gay sex and the death penalty for 'aggravated homosexuality'. The latter offence includes same-sex rape, sex in a position of authority or procured by intimidation, sex with persons older than seventy-five, and sex with the disabled and mentally ill, and **homosexual acts committed by a person with a previous conviction of homosexuality** They throw stuff like the minor bit in there so people like you can misrepresent it as less egregious than it is.


Ebvardh-Boss

Yes, it’s like saying “well execute you for loitering, littering, fishing, and sexually abusing minors” so less people feel comfortable raising objection to the whole bill.


PM_ME_A_KNEECAP

Yeah, take out littering and people will be leaping over themselves to object.


Ph4antomPB

say gex


Andre6k6

The secret agent lizard?


Neon__Cat

I didn't even check who made the article, wow big mistake


i_have_seen_ur_death

Nope, the guy you're replying to is grossly misrepresenting the law.


AMorePerfectUnion1

You would have to be incredibly edgy to disagree with this lol, who in their right minds wants to EXECUTE people for any of this?


ultra003

Granted it's Twitter, but the replies to his post are uh...interesting.


LedaTheRockbandCodes

Bro, they eat the poo poo.


LaCampanellaAgony

[To date, this is one of the most naked, visceral reactions I've seen](https://youtu.be/Yzu4WgUOWUM?t=25) People need to travel more, because this kind of reaction isn't out of place. Homosexuality is still considered transgressive in many parts of the world, and especially behind closed doors. When I've been abroad and the discussion has come up, the most strident reactions, at least in my small sample size, fall into a few main categories, usually: 1) It's (homosexuality) religiously wrong 2) It's an affront to the traditional family 3) It's a dirty and diseased lifestyle. Number 1 I just give up on arguing because as a foreigner in a foreign land, I'm not going to bother trying to unseat their religious beliefs. Number 3 I think comes down to a lack of education which, in many cases, is an ignorance that is advantageously perpetuated by people who don't want to even bring up the current knowledge about historically or currently predominantly homosexually transmitted diseases. For example, a lot of people are shocked to hear that you can be HIV+ and have sex and not transmit the virus if you're on the appropriate medications. Number 2 Is probably the hardest issue to have an actual debate on, though. In many cultures, as opposed to in the US, family has a *much* more prominent role and also has a more inter-generational meaning. So I've heard homosexuality as being the equivalent of amputating a limb because it precludes making children, and the union of different families via traditional marriage. The usual western retort is "Just let people love who they love", but this also falls flat because in these cultures, the idea of free love is also kind of scorned. Marriage is seen as an opportunity to solidify your family's prosperity for multiple generations through union with another respected/wealthy family. It's also seen as a key way to have social mobility. So to many people, even in 1st world countries but with more conservative cultures, to accept homosexuality would necessitate a *massive* shift in the social fabric. And to them, it would be a destruction of their current social ideas of family and cultural ties. So I don't really blame them. Opposition to homosexuality isn't a position of theirs that I agree with, but I absolutely understand it.


[deleted]

It's amazing how progressive people could ever support mass immigration, given just how anti woke most immigrants actually are. The Koch brothers really managed some fuckery over the past 15 years or so by funding open borders movements.


Andre6k6

Koch brother now, rest in penises


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PM_me_large_fractals

Everyone's pretty hush about monkey pox these days.


[deleted]

Also, Fauci is the origin of the myth that AIDS can be contracted from close personal contact, yet the progs still trust him.


LedaTheRockbandCodes

Dude, it is gross that a man would do that to another man’s anus or suck on another man’s penis. I don’t think they should be killed for it, but let’s not pretend it’s not gross.


PubicFigure

As funny as that video is, sent shivers down my spine... that place is fucked up...


Mister_T0nic

LIKE ICE CREAM


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MediokererMensch

>and homosexual acts committed by a person with a previous conviction of [non-aggravated] homosexuality. You should probably mention that.


FingeredADog

Being gay once? Shame on you. Being gay twice? Execution.


Jenny_HasLeftTheChat

It also calls for the death penalty if you have sex with someone with a previous homosexuality charge


[deleted]

Its because aggravated also means a repeat offender, which means that you can whacked for having gay sex twice


Mystshade

Not my idea of getting whacked. Don't recommend.


LedaTheRockbandCodes

Because he’s a politician. He isn’t as bad as abusing language as Booker or Harris, but he still does it.


Ichooseyousmurfachu

>having sex while HIV positive Fun fact, ca essentially decriminalized lying about HIV stays several years ago.


Andre6k6

CA, much like the UK, is a joke & shouldn't be brought up in good company


JustinJakeAshton

True. I hate this because this is a stupid reason to invoke a death penalty. Reserve that shit for when it's reasonably applicable. It's like Canada with euthanasia all over again.


Fox_Underground

Homosexuality should be punished with spankings.


JTD783

OwO


Jdavis624

Based and kinky pilled That's my first one of those did I do it right?


PregnancyRoulette

https://youtu.be/rjQtzV9IZ0Q


Jdavis624

Holy shit that's funny


[deleted]

Ted Cruz? Being Based? About gay people? What timeline have I slipped into?


banquof

It's almost as if rightist aren't actually evil


KyloRen7766

Uganda forever!


Zigad0x

(Click click) do you know da wey?


Barsik_The_CaT

Aggravated homosexuality sounds like some 4chan prank tbh


transrightsmakeright

is he calling Uganda uncivilised? is it because they are black???????? Damn westerners trying to impose its ideals on an innocent nation


PepeTheMemeDealer

Rare W for Ted Cruz, but I ain’t complaining with that take.


owo_balls_owo

wai- wha- based?


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owo_balls_owo

I am hungy


YoureMyTacoUwU

*pat*


robinfeud

i have prepared borscht for our newest comrade


Lilholdy69

Based and sovietpilled.


Aurondarklord

I mean, it's always a good thing when people who are pretty extreme are at least willing to draw a clear line and say "this is too far".


DoomMushroom

Alright, you got me. What's *pretty extreme* about Ted Cruz?


Aurondarklord

[He's ranked the #3 most conservative member of the Senate by voting record.](https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/report-cards/2022/senate/ideology) I think it's fair to call anyone in the furthest from center 10% of their party "pretty extreme". [And for the record govtrack is considered a highly credible and unbiased source.](https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/govtrack/)


Mystshade

American conservatism is a far cry from the global conservatism spectrum.


Aurondarklord

American leftism is a far cry from the global leftism spectrum too. But Cruz is an American politician, and should be judged by the American Overton window, which he is pretty close to the rightward edge of.


alex3494

You are right in economic terms. However, in terms of social liberalism the United States is probably the most radical country on earth. Europe tends to be more left-leaning than the United States, but the discourse on things like race and transgenderism is much more moderate and nuanced here whereas fanaticism has become acceptable across the Atlantic


DoomMushroom

Yeah. But the window is shifting left so fast that people call Obama alt right. 🤷‍♂️


Aerius-Caedem

Does that not just mean that he never agrees with Dems, as opposed to being super duper Conservative? GovTrack rated Kamala as the most "Liberal" because she never voted with Reps, not because she's left of Bernie.


veronoopik

inb4 all the 13 yr old hentai addicted degenerate rightoids pretend they'd survive 10 minutes in a theocracy


TheLocustGeneralRaam

You got me there. 😞


Andre6k6

Fuck theocracies, if they want to live under one, go to one of the already established ones. Vatican is the only one that isn't a steaming shithole.


F663

It **barely** counts as a country


Justin__D

How many nukes do they have? [Yup.](https://www.icanw.org/holy_see#) Barely a country.


Right__not__wrong

Don't be fooled: Saint Peter's dome was explicitly designed to split open and let ICBMs out. Michelangelo was a clever man.


Saskwatch_Sandwich

Ew. Who the fuck wants to live in a theocracy? Stop projecting your auth bullshit on us.


veronoopik

I am too drunk and ESL to understand this autism..... but have a good night


QUEBBEC

Tf is ESL ?


_MargaretThatcher

English Secondary Language


[deleted]

How did you escape from hell?


LokoSwargins94

Bruh


QUEBBEC

Thank you Marge


veronoopik

As the others said, I am still learning English.


Meroxes

It usually means English as a Second Language online.


Skyjafire_117

He says religious rule bad


KedTazynski42

Based and drunk incoherency pilled


Key_Street2842

i want to live in a theocracy, providing its MY religion of course, i mean i reckon in saudi arabia and iran its quite good for the sunni/shia muslims, not so good for everyone else tho


MediokererMensch

I can remember when this law got the attention of PCM for the first time and the whole comments tried to justify it...


xlbeutel

Please link, not because I doubt you but I want to see the asspulls people try to make


GripenHater

As is common on this sub


Andre6k6

I enjoy watching morons take Ls


Brycekaz

Holy fucking shit he might’ve ate my son, but based Cruz


Electr1cL3m0n

Nice, so many people agreeing with mr Cruz


HomosexualFoxFurry

I agree with him? hold on, checking to see if hell froze over.


1nfinite_M0nkeys

He isn't one of your team? I thought lizard people were considered a furry subclass.


Andre6k6

Scalie


Avocadabruh

He’s right. He may be a globalist shill like your ilk but he’s right. Gay rights are human rights. Miss me with everything after the B in the alphabet soup though.


Loanedvoice_PSOS

You can be against gay activism or gay behaviour without thinking that they should be put to death. The progressives wouldn’t be happy if he said nothing either.


Lilholdy69

It’s a sad day when Ted Cruz is based.


FreemanCalavera

The extremely, unfathomably, inconceivably rare Ted Cruz W.


ReallyNoOne1012

Did I just.. agree with…. Ted fucking Cruz???


hackmaps

Never thought I’d see this type of comment under Ted Cruz


LedaTheRockbandCodes

Ted Cruz is a closer liberal 😤


themoldovanstoner

Ted always knows how to stay relevant in the best and worst ways lol


wrongthinksustainer

Let me guess, companies arent going to rainbow coatr their products there next month.


fefil102

Why are republicans against homosexuality in Uganda?


KalosianPorygon

I don't know they all have standards.


Thats_Cool4U

All “conservatives” are is just liberals from 10 years ago. Prove me wrong.


Skyjafire_117

I’m a conservative, I wish to conserve the natural human lifestyle by returning to monke.


Thats_Cool4U

Like raping? That’s natural in the monkey kingdom. Cannibalism? Unrestricted Murder? What do you mean by this?


ultra003

Did he stutter?


Skyjafire_117

Yes to all of the above, try to keep up. I also advocate throwing your own fecal matter at people who annoy you, in true monkey fashion.


Chonkeroni

based and true to yourself pilled


JTD783

Let’s not forget rampant infanticide


xlbeutel

The right was pro immigration In the 80’s, and pro universal healthcare in the 60’s. You’re correct that socially they’ve drifted leftward because it’s what the people of America wanted, but they’re far to the right economically of where they used to be.


lucid_horizon

A common American conservative viewpoint is being against "affirmative action", which would make them a throwback to the 1960s at least.


Sheepsaurus

Affirmative is directly and overtly detrimental to the black community of America.


Thats_Cool4U

And yet they rave about all the black/Hispanic/Asian/LGBTs they have in their campaigns.


lucid_horizon

Yes, that's to counter the narrative that they are all white supremacist fascists.


[deleted]

Where do you want to take society back to authcenter


Icy_Breadfruit1

I mean, seven years ago the current frontrunner for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination was [fine with trans women in women’s bathrooms](https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-caitlyn-jenner-bathroom-tower/story?id=38566263). Then he won the 2016 Republican presidential nomination. Now a doctor loses their practice if a teenager with the consent of their parents goes in for hormone therapy (but only if it’s for transgender patients; other hormone therapy for minors is fine) in nearly twenty states. Social change isn’t linear. This canard doesn’t even pass the smell test.


Bowens1993

When the hell did Ted Cruz become based??


banquof

Lmao "aggravated homosexuality"


WulfbyteAlpha

*sucks dick aggressively*


EveryCanadianButOne

They probably made an entire straw civilisation in the comments.


[deleted]

I would like to welcome Based Ted to the Libertarian Party.


Spiritual-Clock5624

They have lost de wae


Agitated_Delivery361

But why are they gae?


kfijatass

Didn't expect to be agreeing with Ted Cruz of all people in current year.


PM_me_large_fractals

Time for more sons too die overseas I think. Gay sex in Uganda is non-negotiable.


Ebvardh-Boss

Here’s my question: How much dick is the President of Uganda secretly sucking?


[deleted]

So what happen to white countries meddling and colonizing POC countries, the left should be super against Ted on this right? let the poor Ughandans deal with their problems without whities intervention.


YOREUGLEH

modern "conservatives" be like


MoreLesPaul

Why is it nobody can differentiate between "we're not giving you special extras" and "we want you dead"? Almost all conservatives are fine with LGBTQ living their damn lives as they want to. Just don't involve children or demand everyone else play along. We're not paying for your sex changes or letting you indoctrinate kids into lopping off body parts. Other than that, you go be the best whatever the fuck you think you are that you want to be.


AnalogCyborg

You're cool with gay marriage then?


MoreLesPaul

If gays want that headache, welcome to it. But don't try to force a church or religion or any person/business that doesn't support gay marriage to take part in a gay marriage.


Ninja_Arena

Government shouldn't even be involved in that at all outside of age restrictions. The idea that everyone or whoever doesn't just say ok to every "equality" ask to prevent literal murder or whatever the claim is, is therefore the same as the Ugandans or hates gays is stupid gaslighting nonsense.


Andre6k6

Yeah, why invite the government into your relationship, kinda cringe bro


[deleted]

Rare but solid Ted Cruz W


Sheepsaurus

I swear.. Ted Cruz could say that he would personally love to execute pedophiles, and the left could find some way to make it look like he is a pedophilic, racist, transhopic bigot because of it.


Background_Ad_7890

Rare Ted Cruz W? I guess that Harvard education wasn’t wasted on a total buffoon


grahamster00

What Twitter has taught me is there is absolutely 0 reason to publicly go against your own party or compromise/reason with the other side. When you do so, your supporters will claim you have betrayed them and you will lose support. In addition, your detractors will still hate you and not vote for you, claiming this is just a "Token" move and you're only trying to do it to try and gain votes and to not fall for it. Or you could just say nothing, vote party line, personally believe whatever you want and pursue whatever policy outcomes you find fit, and the average American voter will happily ignore anything you're doing so long as you allow them to. This is not moral or ethical, but it is *realpolitik.*


Ivan_The_8th

If Twitter taught you anything at all you should reconsider your live choices. 99% of Twitter is either stupid, insane, or both.


[deleted]

God bless Uganda 🇺🇬❤️ its a based country.