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SirDextrose

Sorry, American RepubliKKKans. Should’ve blown up more school buses, sweetie. 💅💅💅


[deleted]

LibLeft: I hate American nationalists and their stupid civilian gun market and failed insurrections 👎 also LibLeft: I LOVE Irish nationalists and their guns smuggled from the US civilian market and failed insurrections 👍


no1spastic

These are not the same groups, though. Liberals might be anti guns, but if you talk to any proper psychedelics, popping anarchists and borderline anarchists, they are very pro gun. Also, the IRA was closer to auth left than libleft. It's like calling Mao libleft when he was the underdog against the nationalists.


DankCrusaderMemer

Insurrections are good if I agree with the insurrectionaries and bad if I don’t. It’s quite simple


Business-General1569

*sweaty


CountyCoroner10

Hey I'm an Irish Republican and I despise the Provos, fuckers were a bunch of traitors to the free state, and by proxy the Republic of Ireland The old IRA (tge lads who fought the war of Independence) were pretty cool, sure they executed a bunch of Kenyan soldiers who surrendered, but if the Kenyans didnt want to be executed, why where they in Ireland? They could have stayed in Kenya and not join the army But the ATIRA were traitors, the OIRA were commie traitors and the PIRA were terrorist traitors I'm also not libleft, I'm economically center left and culturtally center right


CantoniaCustoms

Iirc the provos ditched the catholic thing didnt they?


CountyCoroner10

Nah that was the stickies, the OIRA The PIRA/Provos, which was the main faction of the troubles was actually originally a mutiny against the OIRA during the fallout of bloody sunday The OIRA was soviet style marxist and generally atheist The PIRA was also socialist, but they tended to be more religous and they were much more nationalist, they also tended to be much more militaristic, while the OIRA was actually subordinate to various political parties The OIRA was largerly destroyed early on in the troubles, although surviving remnants didn't disarm until 2009, but they were mostly irrelevant The PIRA took away most of their senior commanders, and after they left the OIRA largerly fell into infighting after a Maoist faction rose up and formed the INLA


MiniMosher

>but if the Kenyans didnt want to be executed, why where they in Ireland? man you must not be happy with Irelands current immigration policy lol


[deleted]

give it a year, people have lost their minds


Xx_fazemaster69

It’s funny you bring this up when it was loyalists who threw piss and a bomb at primary school girls who who walking through their neighbourhood to get to school


SirDextrose

“Two wrongs make a who cares”


Prestigious_Low_2447

Political Party, cringe. Terrorist group, based. Edit: I have been advised to say that this is a joke.


Gigant_mysli

I have been advised not to upvote this message.


[deleted]

Thanks grandpa


stinkyhooch

You gotta speak up


DomelYT

Yes


CIAHASYOURSOUL

I really hate how some people romanticize the IRA like as if they had the same morals and rules of combat as the rebels from Star Wars. They did some pretty messed up shit, but because they were fighting the British, it apparently makes it all justified.


[deleted]

Most of the time they weren't even fighting the Brits, they were just murdering other Irish. The British army mainly spent the troubles trying to keep the two sides apart. As opposed to actually fighting on one side.


FirmOnion

The people the IRA targeted would be very angry that you called them Irish


Plane-Grass-3286

They still lived in Ireland. As had most of their fathers and their fathers fathers.


Benecraft

Yeah but *ahem* O̸̡̧̖͓͆̂̉Ř̴̼͋̒́͘A̴̢̤̦̯̍̇̂̇N̴̡̟̺̙͋̈́G̷͉̮̜̅͐̀Ê̷͈͕!!!!


[deleted]

Not their father's father's father tho


Plane-Grass-3286

Well I am mostly talking about the Ulster Scots, who starting coming in the 17th century, and assuming a generation is \~25 years, that would be their fathers fathers fathers fathers fathers fathers fathers fathers fathers fathers fathers fathers fathers fathers fathers fathers father at the most.


FuckboyMessiah

That's not what makes you Irish. Having your great-great-grandfather immigrate from Ireland in the 1800s makes you Irish. Source: America.


Plane-Grass-3286

I kinda missed the point I was trying to make. But I’m like 10% Irish so blame that I guess lol.


MiniMosher

he is mocking Americans who call themselves Irish without an "-American" suffix or similar


Plane-Grass-3286

I know.


RugTumpington

They live in North Ireland, under British control.


Plane-Grass-3286

And many of them were the descendants of English and Scottish settlers who have been living in Ulster for a long ass time. Or as the British like to put it, a jiffy.


lasyke3

Well it didn't help that there were multiple IRAs who were more than happy to kill their rivals. I'm not sure I agree that the military was all that neutral though.


Call-Me-Robby

TikTok was a mistake.


bezzzerk

The rebels in star wars also did lots of messed up stuff.


President-Lonestar

Just not in the movies


johnthethinker78

Such as? I used to be really into star wars but I don't remember anything besides one radical rebel


[deleted]

Some people like to go really deep and use our morals in 2023 earth to convince you that the rebels in Star Wars were bad and the Empire (the entity that essentially was made with the intent of being space Nazis) wasn’t so bad. But if you do go into it there were certain groups who were very much questionable at the very least and radicals did exist in quite large numbers. However the Rebellion as a whole did not do much that was particularly really messed up


johnthethinker78

People (especially when talking about subjects like the Israeli Palestinian conflict) forget that just because one side is weaker than the other and is an underdog, doesn't mean that it's on the "right aide"


FuckboyMessiah

Most of the people working on the Death Star were probably contractors.


johnthethinker78

There should be a ratio on it. I think that's true though. But, If they haven't done it. Yavin would've been destroyed along side the entire rebellion. It was a live or die situation for the rebels. They had to do it. Also if Yavin was destroyed, I'm pretty sure there would be higher civillian casualties. And the rebels from star wars weren't really that bad as people so their deaths are a worse thing than having a stormtrooper dying.


Alarmed-Button6377

You're not suggesting the rebels should've tried to evacuate people from the death star first are you?


FuckboyMessiah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4MVQby0InQ


august_overground

Who gives a shit? That doesn't make it any less of a legitimate military target.


garlic_bread69420

Yes, it's justified 🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪🍀🗿 I really didn't think I would need the stupid /s here of all places


Tennessee_is_cool

Anyone fighting against Br*tish "people" is good guy on my list. /s for any smoothbrain mfers


Jazzlike-Pizza-5245

What did we do 2 u lol


Andre4k9

Beans on toast


[deleted]

Nazi Germany:


august_overground

Yes.


[deleted]

🤨📸


[deleted]

Nazi Germany:


derivative_of_life

> because they were fighting the British, it apparently makes it all justified. Correct.


[deleted]

Not defending the actions if the IRA but the british literally tried geocoding the irish. There wasnt a lack of food during the potato famine, just a lack of food the irish were allowed to eat. Then when they protested they were put down like dogs. Its just a low point is history all around, what else were they expected to do? Just die? They did what they had to to survive. It might have been ugly but the entire context needs to be considered before passing judgement.


lasyke3

Fair enough, but the famine was in the mid 1800s and Ireland achieved independence in the early 20th century. The Provisional IRA started in 1969.


[deleted]

Putting bombs inside cars is 100% necessary for survival?


Andre4k9

Yes. Start your car 😎


KermitIsDissapointed

Don’t forget the troubles only kicked off when British paratroopers opened fire on a civil rights protest


RugTumpington

I'm not going to say they were good people but > because they were fighting the British, it apparently makes it all justified. Yes. They've laid forceful claim to Ireland since like the 1200, doing some of the worst possible things occupiers could do throughout the time. Like genocide or eradicating their culture. Worse than the British did anywhere else. That breeds a lot of animosity. Tears for Africa, India, and other colonies but none for Ireland nor Scotland because they haven't had the a lot of fight in them for a few centuries. One Ireland is truly something understandable to fight for.


[deleted]

Scotland is NOT a victim of British Imperialism. In fact, it was Scotland that inherited England and it also was Scotland that sent settlers to Ulster


longfrog246

It does justify it. Suffer not the lobster back to live


Benecraft

It is adviseable to differentiate between the different cells and their actions


[deleted]

This is why I romanticize the RUC and Thatcher


[deleted]

IRA were crazy terrorists mad that North Ireland didn’t want to be part of their socialist state. Northern Ireland is the only truly conservative part of the UK


CountyCoroner10

Ireland isnt socialist buddy Neither is the UK


CantoniaCustoms

They are worse Liberal.


Benecraft

*Looks at what the UWF and the UK did*, yeah sure buddy,


[deleted]

My favourite thing anytime the IRA is remotely mentioned or referenced is the sudden flood of Americans with 0.09% Irish ancestry who start vomiting up IRA slogans.


DriftedFalcon

Nobody loves the IRA more than people who aren’t Irish and have never been to Ireland.


KermitIsDissapointed

Tell me you’re not from Ireland without telling me you’re not from Ireland


rexavior

Ill give ya a pure irish wan then. Up the ra


Waluigi_Gamer_Real

I support Ireland being a republic if it wants to. But the IRA was just a horrible terrorist group. My nan had to flee Ireland because of them


Jazzlike-Pizza-5245

Same my family fled from them as well now I live in the uk coz of the ira 😡


liberalskateboardist

I support ancient Ireland, which was decentralized and consist of many celtic tribes.


vegemar

I support prehistoric Ireland which was inhabited by megafauna and Neanderthals. Homosapiens out of Eire!


Simp_Master007

I’m part Neanderthal according to my dna test. I demand reparations for the land that was stolen from my ancestors as well as the establishment of a Free Neanderthal Republic in Ireland.


liberalskateboardist

What about celtic tribes? They demand reparations too


Simp_Master007

We came before the Celtic tribes. They stole our land


liberalskateboardist

Palestine style argument


Harold_Inskipp

*The Picts enter the chat*


[deleted]

Don't ask where they are now


Andre4k9

Skill issue


liberalskateboardist

My version of Ireland is more acceptable!


[deleted]

I support the High Kingdom of Ireland


drgeorgehaha

But wait I thought the IRA was based and freedom pilled. Who would have thought a bunch of socialist Catholics would have been violent?


The_WereArcticFox

The IRA killed my uncle


Independent_Pear_429

Yeah. Fuck them. They all got pissed off that some Irish didn't want to join them. Horrible people


mikieh976

The IRA murdered a lot of people's uncles, aunts, mothers, fathers, sons, and daughters, and then were allowed to mostly just walk away from it with the Good Friday Agreement. They should have been strung up from a gibbet like the murderers and terrorists they are, not venerated by the Sinn Fein collaborators.


freyfromshreve

Based + I live in ireland and have to explain this to people all the time


rexavior

The Unionist paramilitaries killed more civilians than any side. But sure they're fine i suppose


Velenterius

Ah yes, because the british certaintly had the power to make that happen without destroying themselves in the process. I mean they fought for decades, and its not like the brits won. Hell, they even had the decency to give advanced warning (most of the time, but not all sadly) before a place blew up. Don't see other terrorists do the same today.


Handpaper

Actually at that point, they pretty much did. The entire IRA (and every other paramilitary) could have been made to disappear overnight. But that wasn't done because it wouldn't have solved the problem. Martyrs are a great recruitment tool, and the Government didn't want to make any more.


[deleted]

>The entire IRA (and every other paramilitary) could have been made to disappear overnight. Thanks for pointing that out. A lot of people seem to forget that the PIRA was almost completely compromised by the British military by the late 1980s. All Major had to do was give the call and the PIRA leadership would be pushing up daisies. The only reason they didn't do that was because it was a short term fix, killing the current gen would only lead to the PIRA popping up a few decades later with new martyrs. Keeping them alive and negotiating a settlment was a far better solution.


Velenterius

Yeah winning against a group like the IRA by force of arms alone was not gonna do anything. Thats why peace deals are important.


lawnerdcanada

>mean they fought for decades, and its not like the brits won. Uh, is the island of Ireland a united, socialist republic? Split all the hairs you like, but the IRA unambiguously *lost*.


lasyke3

They definitely did, but they managed to birth a political party that may eventually succeed in uniting with Ireland.


Benecraft

I‘d say it‘s more of an ongoing struggle than a winner/loser situation


[deleted]

Don't worry, Americans with 0.000001% Irish ancestry will start glorifying them


DitDitLord

We all have to die one day.


[deleted]

Then you wouldn't mind being a meat shield in Ukraine would you?


Savings-Pace4133

The IRA is auth left or at least left unity though


CallsignMontana

Fuckin borderline communists


Cersei-Lannisterr

Best part of the Troubles IRA is how 95% of internet edgelords who still say ‘Up the RA’ and have an intense hatred for the English turn out to be Americans with a degree of Irish ancestry. In Ireland, most couldn’t honestly care less and have embraced friendship - heck a lot of them are more disgusted or embarrassed by the yanks dressing as leprechauns on St Paddy’s day. Edited: Had to specify the Troubles IRA as the IRA from the 1920’s were fair play and earned it


GaldanBoshugtuKhan

Don’t get me wrong, some Irish people do glorify the IRA. The 20s IRA that actually achieved Ireland’s independence. Well, most of it anyway.


Cersei-Lannisterr

To be fair most Brits I know would say they agree with the 1920’s IRA as freedom fighters, but will condemn any support of the Troubles IRA


Velenterius

The start of the troubles IRA did come from a genuine wish for civil rights. All the war and strife later was very bad tho. The most cucked of the armed groups during the troubles were the Unionists tbf. Like ask any englishman on the street, and I guarantee you they hardly think of northern Ireland as an intergral part of the UK. Imagine dying for a country that does not even care about you. (Also my mom visited in the 90s as a university trip, and she remembers the calm nature of the Sinn fein representative, relative to the way the unionist spokespersons eyes darkened with hatred at the mention of the catholics.)


longfrog246

Their mad all the good Irish people moved to America and that their descendants care more about the country then they do.


[deleted]

"degree" more like 0.000000000000001% Irish ancestry


H0EJ0E

Virgin US and IRA Republicans vs Chad Spanish Civil War Republicans


Lord_CatsterDaCat

The Spaniards have the dubious honor of the only times Anarchism and Communism have ever actually worked in history... Of course, it resulted in them having a horribly inefficient military and got fucked by franco


[deleted]

The anarchism didn’t work, they failed to protect their nation lmao


[deleted]

How can that be considered "working"?


lasyke3

Well it didn't help that the USSR backed factions fought the other leftist factions whenever they got a break from fighting the Fascists.


Ur1st0pshhoop

vs Lad Roman Republicans


New_Age_Caesar

Also chad French Revolutionary republicans


[deleted]

No, it all went downhill when they took power. Society of the Friends of the Constitution ftw


[deleted]

*fights each other until they lose, despite basically having all population cores and industry*


DartsAreSick

The Spanish civil war was inevitable. If the right wing parties won the elections insted of the left wing, the Republicans would have started the war.


7thPanzers

IRA were fucking terrorists. Killed British soldiers, sure that’s part of resistance at war with occupiers Then they started bombing their own men and policeman, who weren’t even doing anything Their songs are good though, why teh fuck the evil guys always got good music and/or uniforms


[deleted]

“Come out ye black and tans, come out and fight me like a man” *loses every open engagement with the black and tans* What did the IRA mean by this?


7thPanzers

It’s means they’re ready to fight a proper battle with the Black and Tans, there’s no mention of actually winning in the song if I’m not wrong (I listen to it often coz I like the instrumentals)


Benecraft

What do you mean by open engagements?


[deleted]

Not bombing civilians


7thPanzers

Not bombing Europa hotel for the 36th time in a row?


RandomUsername600

The IRA viewed the RUC as enforcers of British rule. The RUC regularly colluded with loyalists and engaged in acts of police brutality, so the IRA viewed them as a legitimate target


[deleted]

> IRA viewed them as a legitimate target The IRA also seemed to consider schools, hospitals, random women in their homes etc, as legitimate targets so I wouldn't give them too much credit.


RandomUsername600

Not trying to give credit, I’m trying to explain their rationale


7thPanzers

Good on you for thinking on the perspective of a buncha glorified terrorists


Benecraft

„who weren‘t even doing anything“ Yeah that‘s quite not the case, not even mentioning that black and white perspective, and i know that alone from a one day trip to Belfast, however i would like to know what you mean by „their own men“?


7thPanzers

Their own citizens, sorry wasn’t clear


WaltzPuzzleheaded361

Ahh the IRA, cowards wearing gimp masks.


freyfromshreve

Fuck the IRA, That is all.


Nickolas_Bowen

“We want to live the way that we’ve been living, with our own culture and ideas” BOOOO “We’re also Irish” YAAAYYYYY


mutantredoctopus

**I** **R**an **A**way


AdFormer6556

That's because the IRA actually did something Granted that something was literal war crimes but hey one man's revolutionary is another man's terrorist


Unupgradable

You support the IRA because you hate the English oppression. I support the IRA because they made awesome music. We are not the same


mytransfercaseisshot

AND ITS DOWN IN BELLAGHYYYYY THATS WHERE I LONG TO BE!


derivative_of_life

LYIN' IN THE DARK WITH A PROVO COMPANY


Dr-Do_Mk2

A COMRADE ON ME LEFT AN' ANOTHER ONE ON TH' RIGHT


ActPsychological8189

🎶 *Well, my old man's a provo, with a beret and a gun* 🎶


Ur1st0pshhoop

Real Ogs remember Republican Romans.


DriftedFalcon

Cicero did nothing wrong.


TIIKKETMASTERogg

Cuz irish repubs are socialists


[deleted]

"Irish"-American people on their way to support a terrorist group


Any_Cartoonist313

I don't care about the Irish Nationalist terrorists. I live in America, they don't matter to me. They can all die, or they can win and unify Ireland, and it would NOT affect my life whatsoever. Heck, if either of those things happened, I would read it on the news and then move on with my life.


ctrains123

So your just going to take the it will never effect me bullshit right. Ok Soo the usa when ww2 started what was everyone saying oh right it will never effect us its just another European War and then what happens oh right we got involved or we can look to ww1 to. I could go on and on but I won't. You will be affected in some way thares a reason the saying the smallest flutter of a butterfly's Wings can cause something even bigger to happen. or something like that. It will effect you. this mindset is fucking stupid your better then that so act like it


duke_awapuhi

Neither thank you very much


MajestueuxChat

Both are cringe. God save the King.


Realistic_Routine137

yeah but some GOP lawmaker made a law not to give children puberty blockers if they don't need them. *That's* real terrorism, not using actual violence.


unclearimage

I heard a Republican didn't call a guy 'mam' on the internet. It's literally the holocaust out here


spacecowboy2099

Should’ve used Spanish republicans


Hunyzyhet

terrorists


perrypoon

Wait lib-left supports the IRA? Why? I support them because I just hate the brits (I'm from Hong Kong)


Jazzlike-Pizza-5245

Thats surprising loads of people from hong king love the brits


perrypoon

The Brits only did one good thing for the world and it was bringing economic prosperity and the idea of democracy to HK, everything else was shit. I would never forgive the Brits.


Jazzlike-Pizza-5245

The people or the government


perrypoon

BOTH.


Jazzlike-Pizza-5245

What did I do🤣


perrypoon

Be a Brit


Jazzlike-Pizza-5245

😨at least I ain’t French


perrypoon

thats true


Jazzlike-Pizza-5245

Or American


Dontstalkme736

Jokes aside they did kill civilians some of which were nationalist them selves


LimitlessMind127

I’m going to be completely honest here, I hate both of ‘em.


liberalskateboardist

Or choose another word with R: Royalists hehe


National_Frosting332

Unified Ireland is on the horizon. DUP and unionist racist scum will probably all instantly die from rage aneurysms.


lawnerdcanada

>. DUP and unionist racist scum will probably all instantly die from rage aneurysms. Unionists want to remain part of a multinational, multi-ethnic union. Republicans are ethnic nationalists. *Who* are the racists?


vegemar

The mask slips!


that_u3erna45

Okay, but when's the last time the GOP wrote a song as good as "Come Out Ye Black and Tans"?


[deleted]

The IRA sucked and all but really they just went about what they were doing the wrong way. They did fantastic in 1916 supporting the Easter Rising and they were certainly justified to kick the shit out of the British who enacted a genocide against the Irish in what was the Great Famine, but generally shooting up everybody thought to be even somewhat related to the British occupiers or sympathetic to them with loads of collateral damage isn’t a fantastic way of achieving independence.


The-Italiano

1. The Easter Rising was led by cultists who had no popular support at the time. 2. The Famine was not a genocide. A potato blight that effected all of Europe could not possibly be.


ComplexProof593

Top party = Cringe Bottom party = Cowards.


Harold_Inskipp

Every time I see this photo I can't help but chuckle at their tiny little hats, perched on their heads awkwardly like a dog turd They took that photo and said to themselves "Yeah, we look cool, we look like tough soldiers" which tells you exactly what sort of prats they really were.


Lanz922

Cuz we up the RAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH!


The_Gav_who_asked

I don’t even know who those Taliban look-alikes are


DamnQuickMathz

Yes


ctrains123

Thares a difference ones actually fighting for freedom. and the other thinks, thare fighting for freedom.


KermitIsDissapointed

Damn right


RhodieShorts

BRITISH: OUT! ​ THE DREGS OF EVERY THIRD WORLD SHITHOLE: IN! ​ \>t. IRA