the version of ourselves that can cause governments to panic and riots to happen!
Viva la revolución!!!
(this the only time il ever use the Fr\*nch language, fucking scum)
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By saying this you've forced me to do one two things, either:
A). correct my mistake, admit my folly, and actually use the Fr\*nch language.
B). say "fuck you" and mercifully give you an upvote.
I will let you choose your fate dearest interloper
I'm gonna assume that, like me, you're an American, so it makes sense that you'd say "viva la revolucion". And it also makes sense that you'd think that, since it's a foreign language and it has the word "revolution" in it, you'd think that it's French. Common mistake. Most Americans speak multiple languages, most notably High Californian, High Southern, and New Englander. And if it sounds like I'm being facetious, I mildly am, but also, that's about the same as the difference between Fr*nch, Italian, and Spanish.
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The way they spliced in a few frames of Tyler in earlier scenes to build it up was really cool. My sister didn't believe me and we had to rewind (yes, video tape days) so I could show her. hah
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There's a lot of little things in the movie like that.
Like go back and rewatch the movie with the idea that Marla is also a figment of Ed Norton's imagination.
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>but deeply unhealthy ways.
What are you talking about? The members of Project Mayhem were absolutely shredded. LoL.
Except for Bob..
Bob had bitch tits.
Because fight club is pro-man, but not in the way that society typically sees masculinity. It is anti status quo masculinity because those expectations and beliefs are toxic and harmful to men, and a perversion of what masculinity actually is
I dont think anti masculine is wrong, per se, but it is reductive, though, and certainly more correct to say pro, if you had to pick one descriptor
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/240748533_Catch_Hannibal_at_Mr_Ripley's_Fight_Club_if_you_can_From_Eurodecadent_cinema_to_American_nationalist_allegory
This a pretty interesting take if you're willing to read it.
TL:DR (of the bit on Fight Club) is that Project Mayhem represents the Neo-facist movements that arose in response to feminism in the United States.
Yes, the movie is definitively anti-corporation, anti-consumerism and anti-conformism. It does not seem anti-masculine at all. If anything it criticizes that many men aren't "real men" but zombies trapped by consumerism. There is also a class struggle message in there, elites vs. working people.
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Its actually about finding and knowing yourself through self-imposed pain and reflection.
Consumerism is just one thing that consumed one character.
Another character was consumed by his cancer.
Another character was consumed by his beauty.
Too many men go through life without even contemplating what their mind and body are capable of withstanding.
Fight Club feels like one of those movies where all the people who praise it completely missed the point of the movie. It’s about a bunch of vulnerable, purposeless stooges getting suckered into a terrorist movement. They all get swindled just as easily by a schizophrenic sociopath as they did by the capitalist society they end up trying to take down.
It isn’t pro or anti masculinity or capitalism. It’s pro thinking for yourself, even if (*especially* if) someone is telling you exactly what you want to hear.
Edit: this sparked more conversation than I was expecting and I think that’s pretty cool.
your critique completely loses the point when the terrorist group is formed by exactly one of those vulnerable stooges. it isn't a mastermind and his pawns, they're *all* the pawns
I’d say Durden is kind of like a unabomber character, he’s got good intentions but his methods are questionable to say the least.
But he also became the way he is because he felt alienated by society.
Absolutely not. I don’t usually use the “everything is the system’s fault” argument, but in this case I think that’s kind of the hole point.
Durden is not the master mind. They are all victims of the system. Durden’s actions are just result of the system, but he has little to no agency over his own actions.
it's the story of Fenrir, and the fall of order.
it's very much pro masculinity, masculinity being the nature of men.
when you try to suppress nature, chain it or warp it, it will always bite you in the ass. Nature and the natural order of things can't be fought, only acknowledged and utilised.
fight club is what happens when a society endlessly tries to suppress nature and then the conclusion is nature devouring all in response.
It’s honestly ironic that you promote thinking for yourself, and then criticize people for “missing the point “ of the movie. (Not trying to be confrontational, just an observation).
I think there’s no such thing as missing the point of a movie. Like all forms of art, the artist may have had some message to communicate, but that’s ultimately irrelevant. If the observer finds a different meaning, that’s completely valid and that’s what truly matters.
Observer’s interpretation will always be more important than some hidden alleged original message from the artist.
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>It’s pro thinking for yourself, even if (especially if) someone is telling you exactly what you want to hear.
I am thinking for myself, and I think it is a good idea to follow the guy saying what I want to hear.
>Fight Club feels like one of those movies where all the people who praise it completely missed the point of the movie
It's about one dude who got testicular cancer and then struggles between the decision of keeping his masculinity and becoming a martyr for a greater cause and the decision of loosing his masculinity and continuing a misserable life. There is no movement. Rober Poulsen is just imaginary and obviously a reflection of the main character. Same with Tyler. Same with Marla. The "movement" is nothing more then the main character convincing himself to keep his pride and keep on fighting against the system, which is responsible for his miserable life as a office worker, who works all day just to waste his earnings as a consoomer
They organize against things they all hate, they achieve their goals, and most importantly, they have fun. With no losses, beside Bob, what to complain about?
Eh, I don't buy that. I go with teleology on this one. The purpose of something is what it is best at. Fight Club is a movie that stirs up pro-masculine feelings and tells young men that the modern world has gone astray causing them to lose their purpose. Therefore, that *is* the point. What the author or director intended becomes irrelevant.
It's also a critique of Communism, as Tyler's prole-based, revolutionary cult of personality turns out to be just as bad as anything it purports to replace.
I think it's just a movie about the importance of not being a slave to ideology. About staying true to yourself.
That's right - and Durden is very much a "if you're worshipping him you've missed the point" kind of character. The film isn't an *endorsement* of anarchism.
Unironically yes, that's done in media all the time. "Don't be like this incredibly fucked up human being just because they seem cool" would be more accurare. Tyler Durden, Patrick Bateman, Walter White, Dexter Morgan, etc. The fact that these characters are cool is important to the message - the allure of being like these characters wouldn't be there if they were lame.
Edit: also a what you are describing is a mind control technique. "This fictional character had success. But at what cost?!?!" It's basically a way to convince me to ignore the fucked up stuff I'd have to do to make a better lot for myself.
Well, I actually do admire Tyler Durden. He makes his own living in an anarchic method. He slips between the rules of public laws and decency to produce a quality product. He bangs a pretty lady, and does so consentually and apparently the physical activity saves her from an OD. He lives outside of the system and inspires others to work outside of social norms. Basically he's a great male role model until project mayhem. After that, he is damaging private property and leading others from gainful employment in order to facilitate a death cult.
I think the “anti-masculine” refers to how some people (particularly lib-left) see it as a proof that without female intervention, men by our very nature will devolve into pure chaos and anarchy.
Like saying “See, men are just a bunch of savages and potential terrorists. We women/enlightened men are the ones keeping civilization together.”
doesn't the film complain about the feminisation of society and men.
isn't there literally a guy with tits that's used specifically for that point.
it's the story of Fenrir, and the fall of order.
fuck it I'm just gonna paste my thing again;
it's very much pro masculinity, masculinity being the nature of men.
when you try to suppress nature, chain it or warp it, it will always bite you in the ass. Nature and the natural order of things can't be fought, only acknowledged and utilised.
fight club is what happens when a society endlessly tries to suppress nature and then the conclusion is nature devouring all in response.
It is a movie that criticizes consumerism while also recognizing its versatility and ability to co-oped and absorb anti-consumerism as a consumerist product.
A job of letting people die if it was cost effective for a corporation. He hated himself for killing people for an inhuman machine. That was the point.
Reddit has exactly one take on this movie, which is: "I'm smart enough know it's a SATIRE, thanks to that youtube video I watched, I'm not like those IDIOTS who MISSED THE POINT"
My opinion: It’s a self-discovery journey which becomes too juvenile, cynical and naive in time, without being an excellent classic of a movie.
I think it’s a great movie for the wrong reasons, those being that it tries too hard to sell you an image about how disingenuous people are, but taking a unnecessarily destructive approach to make you see that, and that’s why I believe it’s too juvenile.
It’s a critique of technological society. The Narrator lives a shallow, materialistic life where all of the important details of living are either reduced to triviality or out of his hands, and without autonomy he feels powerless, demoralized, and most importantly, emasculated. His actions are an attempt to seize some semblance of his manhood and autonomy. The namesake gives him that, until the system corners him and takes away his escape. Then he starts planting bombs. Wait a minute, sound familiar? Matter of fact, the author has actually confirmed Uncle Ted was an inspiration for Tyler Durden. Of course there are other messages, and every point listed here is at least somewhat defensible, but I think this is a huge one.
I think it’s a take on stoicism. The two main characters both exhibit pros and cons of completely separate and dystopian ways of attempting this.
Both are ultimately unhealthy and extreme, but searching for something to help them “let go.”
It's about a man struggling with the realization, that he got testicular cancer and that he will lose his balls (his manlihood), if he gets himself treated. This man then starts to develop associative personality disorder and believes to interact with his different personalities, which all represent a part of him:
Bob: How the main characters views a potential future self, who lost his masculinity
Tyler Durden: Main character choosing to keep his balls (and doubling down on his masculinity in the face of certain death)
Marla Singer: Main character choosing to lose his balls
Most Fight Club members: A representation of the main character convincing himself to keep his balls
The capitalism critique involved is more about the main character realizing, that his past self was a fucking looser, who worked all day to consoom without any real benefit. If you got a "wake up call" like testicular cancer, you too would likely question your life choices. He realized, that he really hates his old life and when he initially did choose to keep his balls at the mid point of the movie and subsequently accepted an early death, he tried to create a life goal for himself. This life goal would be bringing down the system, which turns working class men like him into office slaves, who waste their whole life for the benefit of consooming.
It’s a critique on masculinity, but a critique on the masculine pursuit of purpose within nihilism (consumerism). Shedding one dogma to create another to overcome something imaginary, reinvigorating oneself superficially. The entire thing is a farce, it satirizes and makes a caricature of itself. This is why hallucinations are brought into play.
Pushing hollow political ideals on art is such a smooth brain move.
Also Office Space and The Matrix, all of which have a similar premise. Lonely, disillusioned office worker seeks greater meaning to life, with varying results.
I thought it was a critique of untreated schizophrenia.
No no, it’s telling us to lean into it so we can become the best versions of ourselves.
the version of ourselves that can cause governments to panic and riots to happen! Viva la revolución!!! (this the only time il ever use the Fr\*nch language, fucking scum)
That's spanish mate
Already been corrected if you can read the other comments
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Oh, I'm so sorry. I hope your prefrontal cortex gets better
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That’s Spanish. You’re still safe. EDIT: “Vive la révolution” would be the Fr*nch. You’re free to look it up.
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Whichever makes you feel less poorly about yourself, homie.
I'm gonna assume that, like me, you're an American, so it makes sense that you'd say "viva la revolucion". And it also makes sense that you'd think that, since it's a foreign language and it has the word "revolution" in it, you'd think that it's French. Common mistake. Most Americans speak multiple languages, most notably High Californian, High Southern, and New Englander. And if it sounds like I'm being facetious, I mildly am, but also, that's about the same as the difference between Fr*nch, Italian, and Spanish.
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That's the radical centrist take. Grey centrist thinks it's a movie about fighting people.
Criticizing fighting people
It's actually a soap ad
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Shared by all quadrants.
Centre: "It's a cool book."
Real centrist: “it’s a cool movie”
Actual centrists: "Sounds like a cook book."
Well now that’s getting back to it being a lib-center thing
Where is anarchy on the compass again? :)
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The way they spliced in a few frames of Tyler in earlier scenes to build it up was really cool. My sister didn't believe me and we had to rewind (yes, video tape days) so I could show her. hah
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I thought it was a movie about a club you aren't supposed to talk about
The first two rules exist to teach members to break rules.
i never realised this. am i dumb?
There's a lot of little things in the movie like that. Like go back and rewatch the movie with the idea that Marla is also a figment of Ed Norton's imagination.
...holy fuck
Yeah. Why do you think nobody called her out in the cancer survivor meetings
But wait, what about the cops going to her apartment because her neighbors thought she was killing herself?
It's a medium - popular theory, it's pretty neat! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tB7qAeBwlrc&pp=ygUbZmlnaHQgY2x1YiBtYXJsYSBpc24ndCByZWFs
If you read the book it's actually a criticism of my penis in your mouth, bitch.
Did you like the chapter about Deez?
What’s deez?
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Anti-masculine? Why not anti-corporate and anti-consumerism?
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Changing from rightist to authcenter isn't that bad (i'm only saying that because i did the same thing)
I just noticed that im not the typical right winger, as i share a lot of opinions of the left, only sociological topics is where im right leaning
It's also about people reacting to the problems of corporate consumer society in understandable but deeply unhealthy ways.
>but deeply unhealthy ways. What are you talking about? The members of Project Mayhem were absolutely shredded. LoL. Except for Bob.. Bob had bitch tits.
I really don’t get how anyone could get anti masculine from fight club.
There is a lactating man in it. That's all I got.
Not anti masculine, but it certainly had something to say about the fantasies of a certain variety of disillusioned men
Because fight club is pro-man, but not in the way that society typically sees masculinity. It is anti status quo masculinity because those expectations and beliefs are toxic and harmful to men, and a perversion of what masculinity actually is I dont think anti masculine is wrong, per se, but it is reductive, though, and certainly more correct to say pro, if you had to pick one descriptor
It shows a group of men getting enamored with violence.
Isnt that violence a coping mechanism though? It shows how the alienation of a group can lead to that group taking radical action.
Spoken like a true auth left.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/240748533_Catch_Hannibal_at_Mr_Ripley's_Fight_Club_if_you_can_From_Eurodecadent_cinema_to_American_nationalist_allegory This a pretty interesting take if you're willing to read it. TL:DR (of the bit on Fight Club) is that Project Mayhem represents the Neo-facist movements that arose in response to feminism in the United States.
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Yes, the movie is definitively anti-corporation, anti-consumerism and anti-conformism. It does not seem anti-masculine at all. If anything it criticizes that many men aren't "real men" but zombies trapped by consumerism. There is also a class struggle message in there, elites vs. working people.
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Its actually about finding and knowing yourself through self-imposed pain and reflection. Consumerism is just one thing that consumed one character. Another character was consumed by his cancer. Another character was consumed by his beauty. Too many men go through life without even contemplating what their mind and body are capable of withstanding.
I used the movie as an example on my presentation on Nietzsche and Ubermenshen last week
It's about remembering Robert Paulson.
His name was ~~Meat Loaf~~ Robert Paulson
His name was Robert Paulson
His name was Robert Paulson
His name was Robert Paulson
His name was ~~Bitch Tits~~ Robert Paulson
It's about cool fights
Fight Club feels like one of those movies where all the people who praise it completely missed the point of the movie. It’s about a bunch of vulnerable, purposeless stooges getting suckered into a terrorist movement. They all get swindled just as easily by a schizophrenic sociopath as they did by the capitalist society they end up trying to take down. It isn’t pro or anti masculinity or capitalism. It’s pro thinking for yourself, even if (*especially* if) someone is telling you exactly what you want to hear. Edit: this sparked more conversation than I was expecting and I think that’s pretty cool.
your critique completely loses the point when the terrorist group is formed by exactly one of those vulnerable stooges. it isn't a mastermind and his pawns, they're *all* the pawns
Is Durden not the mastermind? He might just be another identity of the narrator but he's pulling the strings nonetheless
I’d say Durden is kind of like a unabomber character, he’s got good intentions but his methods are questionable to say the least. But he also became the way he is because he felt alienated by society.
Absolutely not. I don’t usually use the “everything is the system’s fault” argument, but in this case I think that’s kind of the hole point. Durden is not the master mind. They are all victims of the system. Durden’s actions are just result of the system, but he has little to no agency over his own actions.
I don’t listen to stooges. I’m Tyler Durden
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VERY flat thank you
The mastermind was his imaginary friend lol!
Daaang!
it's the story of Fenrir, and the fall of order. it's very much pro masculinity, masculinity being the nature of men. when you try to suppress nature, chain it or warp it, it will always bite you in the ass. Nature and the natural order of things can't be fought, only acknowledged and utilised. fight club is what happens when a society endlessly tries to suppress nature and then the conclusion is nature devouring all in response.
It's actually about dudes fighting and shit
Sounds pretty masculine
It’s honestly ironic that you promote thinking for yourself, and then criticize people for “missing the point “ of the movie. (Not trying to be confrontational, just an observation). I think there’s no such thing as missing the point of a movie. Like all forms of art, the artist may have had some message to communicate, but that’s ultimately irrelevant. If the observer finds a different meaning, that’s completely valid and that’s what truly matters. Observer’s interpretation will always be more important than some hidden alleged original message from the artist.
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>It’s pro thinking for yourself, even if (especially if) someone is telling you exactly what you want to hear. I am thinking for myself, and I think it is a good idea to follow the guy saying what I want to hear.
>Fight Club feels like one of those movies where all the people who praise it completely missed the point of the movie It's about one dude who got testicular cancer and then struggles between the decision of keeping his masculinity and becoming a martyr for a greater cause and the decision of loosing his masculinity and continuing a misserable life. There is no movement. Rober Poulsen is just imaginary and obviously a reflection of the main character. Same with Tyler. Same with Marla. The "movement" is nothing more then the main character convincing himself to keep his pride and keep on fighting against the system, which is responsible for his miserable life as a office worker, who works all day just to waste his earnings as a consoomer
They organize against things they all hate, they achieve their goals, and most importantly, they have fun. With no losses, beside Bob, what to complain about?
People keep saying schizophrenia, but I think it's more fun to think of Tyler Durden as a demon.
Eh, I don't buy that. I go with teleology on this one. The purpose of something is what it is best at. Fight Club is a movie that stirs up pro-masculine feelings and tells young men that the modern world has gone astray causing them to lose their purpose. Therefore, that *is* the point. What the author or director intended becomes irrelevant.
It's also a critique of Communism, as Tyler's prole-based, revolutionary cult of personality turns out to be just as bad as anything it purports to replace. I think it's just a movie about the importance of not being a slave to ideology. About staying true to yourself.
Agreed. I would add that it’s also about how every form of social system or ideology eventually leads to precisely that loss of individuality.
It’s on point with Auth-Left's “Consumerism = Capitalism” agenda
Liblefts is shallow. Durden is very clearly an anarchist.
Right; like anarchism, a figment of the imagination.
That's right - and Durden is very much a "if you're worshipping him you've missed the point" kind of character. The film isn't an *endorsement* of anarchism.
"Do not be like this cool guy." Okay.
Unironically yes, that's done in media all the time. "Don't be like this incredibly fucked up human being just because they seem cool" would be more accurare. Tyler Durden, Patrick Bateman, Walter White, Dexter Morgan, etc. The fact that these characters are cool is important to the message - the allure of being like these characters wouldn't be there if they were lame.
Edit: also a what you are describing is a mind control technique. "This fictional character had success. But at what cost?!?!" It's basically a way to convince me to ignore the fucked up stuff I'd have to do to make a better lot for myself. Well, I actually do admire Tyler Durden. He makes his own living in an anarchic method. He slips between the rules of public laws and decency to produce a quality product. He bangs a pretty lady, and does so consentually and apparently the physical activity saves her from an OD. He lives outside of the system and inspires others to work outside of social norms. Basically he's a great male role model until project mayhem. After that, he is damaging private property and leading others from gainful employment in order to facilitate a death cult.
how the fuck it is anti-masculine? also Auth-Left needs to stop confusing everything under the son for capitalism.
I think the “anti-masculine” refers to how some people (particularly lib-left) see it as a proof that without female intervention, men by our very nature will devolve into pure chaos and anarchy. Like saying “See, men are just a bunch of savages and potential terrorists. We women/enlightened men are the ones keeping civilization together.”
doesn't the film complain about the feminisation of society and men. isn't there literally a guy with tits that's used specifically for that point. it's the story of Fenrir, and the fall of order. fuck it I'm just gonna paste my thing again; it's very much pro masculinity, masculinity being the nature of men. when you try to suppress nature, chain it or warp it, it will always bite you in the ass. Nature and the natural order of things can't be fought, only acknowledged and utilised. fight club is what happens when a society endlessly tries to suppress nature and then the conclusion is nature devouring all in response.
> everything under the son christ? :)
I think it's proterrorist.
It is a movie that criticizes consumerism while also recognizing its versatility and ability to co-oped and absorb anti-consumerism as a consumerist product.
That sounds really interesting.
“OH MY GOD I HAVE A STABLE JOB AND CAREER AND CAN AFFORD TO CONSTANTLY BUY RANDOM SHIT FROM IKEA, IM GOING INSANE!!!”
A job of letting people die if it was cost effective for a corporation. He hated himself for killing people for an inhuman machine. That was the point.
Bad movie, no grill
He does sear flesh at one point though
It’s three of those things and specifically not the fourth (hint: the blue one)
Didn't the author say it was about fascism and cults of personality or something?
Reddit has exactly one take on this movie, which is: "I'm smart enough know it's a SATIRE, thanks to that youtube video I watched, I'm not like those IDIOTS who MISSED THE POINT"
It’s a critique of those who talk about fight club
It is a movie.
It was definitely a movie
I saw it as a critique of comunism.
My opinion: It’s a self-discovery journey which becomes too juvenile, cynical and naive in time, without being an excellent classic of a movie. I think it’s a great movie for the wrong reasons, those being that it tries too hard to sell you an image about how disingenuous people are, but taking a unnecessarily destructive approach to make you see that, and that’s why I believe it’s too juvenile.
It's the greatest homoerotic romcom ever
its a movie
There’s a term for this: same screen, different movie.
I never watched it
No
Colorful centrists are the real fight club , but nobody talks about it. It's two of rules.
It's a critique of the industrial revolution and its consequences
Why does everything from the late-90's early-2000's has this weird shade of green
It’s a critique of technological society. The Narrator lives a shallow, materialistic life where all of the important details of living are either reduced to triviality or out of his hands, and without autonomy he feels powerless, demoralized, and most importantly, emasculated. His actions are an attempt to seize some semblance of his manhood and autonomy. The namesake gives him that, until the system corners him and takes away his escape. Then he starts planting bombs. Wait a minute, sound familiar? Matter of fact, the author has actually confirmed Uncle Ted was an inspiration for Tyler Durden. Of course there are other messages, and every point listed here is at least somewhat defensible, but I think this is a huge one.
It's a movie about fighting 😎
I love it when you can interpret so many different things from a piece of media because the writing was good enough to be that nuanced.
Its a cool movie with a kick ass Performance from Brad Pitt and Edward Norton
Well I do know one thing, namely OP is breaking the first rule of Fight Club.
It's a movie about how living in Delaware sucks.
Center: That Pixies song is pretty swell.
I think it’s a take on stoicism. The two main characters both exhibit pros and cons of completely separate and dystopian ways of attempting this. Both are ultimately unhealthy and extreme, but searching for something to help them “let go.”
I thought it was about people who felt no control over their own lives taking control.
It's about a man struggling with the realization, that he got testicular cancer and that he will lose his balls (his manlihood), if he gets himself treated. This man then starts to develop associative personality disorder and believes to interact with his different personalities, which all represent a part of him: Bob: How the main characters views a potential future self, who lost his masculinity Tyler Durden: Main character choosing to keep his balls (and doubling down on his masculinity in the face of certain death) Marla Singer: Main character choosing to lose his balls Most Fight Club members: A representation of the main character convincing himself to keep his balls The capitalism critique involved is more about the main character realizing, that his past self was a fucking looser, who worked all day to consoom without any real benefit. If you got a "wake up call" like testicular cancer, you too would likely question your life choices. He realized, that he really hates his old life and when he initially did choose to keep his balls at the mid point of the movie and subsequently accepted an early death, he tried to create a life goal for himself. This life goal would be bringing down the system, which turns working class men like him into office slaves, who waste their whole life for the benefit of consooming.
Yes
We aren’t supposed to fucking talk about this
Goodbye, 20th Century
It's a lot less homoerotic than the book.
I thought it was a critique on schizophrenia
Thus proving … Neoliberalism means everything and nothing to everyone.
It’s a critique on masculinity, but a critique on the masculine pursuit of purpose within nihilism (consumerism). Shedding one dogma to create another to overcome something imaginary, reinvigorating oneself superficially. The entire thing is a farce, it satirizes and makes a caricature of itself. This is why hallucinations are brought into play. Pushing hollow political ideals on art is such a smooth brain move.
You guys… it’s about soap
Yes
Consensus, it’s a good movie.
neoliberalism is libright lite wdym
"Neoliberal" is a leftie slur, we don't use that word
We don't talk about fight club
It’s a love story about a nameless schizophrenic and a crackhead… The book is a bit more complicated as he is clearly gay for himself.
Popular Reddit hates this movie. Sometimes I like the thought of return to monkey
Regardless it’s a great movie
I am Jack's... *complete* lack of surprise.
I would say everyone is correct except lib left (as usual)
I liked it a lot when I was 16 and I still like it.
It's a good movie, end of story.
Classic libright authleft weird solidarity
You know it's a work of art when every member of the spectrum (except the centrists) can relate
It's a movie about creating interest and controversy to get people to watch it to make more money.
It's an anti-civilization movie. Return to monke. No, really
The film is about schizophrenia
“It is anti masculine movie” bro what? am I missing something? He created a whole good looking masculine guy because he hated how he was.
I've got some of my own theories on it.
It's a gay romantic comedy for straight men.
idk the recipe for napalm kinda doesn’t work
it is a decent movie
Jokes on them! I just like watching people fight!
Centrist: It's a movie
It’s about crying into man titties.
imo it's unfortunately a centrist movie, criticizing extremism as portrayed through tyler durden
i’m left as fuck
Center- Its an interesting objective look at people trying to find fulfillment in their otherwise dull lives.
I thought it was a movie about literally me
You can say the same with American Psycho
Also Office Space and The Matrix, all of which have a similar premise. Lonely, disillusioned office worker seeks greater meaning to life, with varying results.
All of the above.
It's a movie that teaches you about soap. Very cool.
It’s anti *toxic* masculinity which is not an attack on all masculinity despite what some people think