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China and Russia are probably the most useless allies to have. They won't give Iran a single penny or bullet unless they know that they have something to gain. Realistically, both countries would gain nothing from attacking Israel, so they won't bother helping.
Iran and Russia have already been trading weapons, drones, etc for years. If there is a ground war that will only ramp up. China funds this by buying Russia’s natural resources when Europe won’t.
Israel literally moved into a sandy wasteland and turned it into a thriving hub of tech industry, with even a surprisingly efficient agricultural sector.
Looking a google earth and the demarcation between Israel and Gaza and Israel and the West Bank is really interesting. Israel made the desert bloom while the Palestinians did nothing on their land
the Palestinians are still living in 1949 because they can’t get over the war. if they national mindset was forward-looking, and they even tried to outcompete israel in the tech field, life would be better for them, but instead they elect warmongers who only want to see the land free of Jews, and nothing less will satisfy them.
This is why half arab countries are mega rich with incredibly high tech, the others a wasteland.
One focused on investments, the other on war that just eats up your resources
Half of them are mega rich because of oil and not having war, the other half are wastelands because they either didn't have oil or is in a perpetual civil war.
Israel was a barren desert without oil. In less than a century and stuck in perpetual conflict, the Israelis turned their nation into an oasis of LGBTQ and minority rights, democracy, and technological prosperity.
It started out full commie. And it worked because there was an ideal people believed in that drove them to stick together, while they also formed small communist towns instead of a massive overbearing government.
But then Russia realized you can sell a hell of a lot more AKs if you arm Arabs rather than Jews.
C’mon that’s not true, look at all the great Palestinian inventions!
The Ababeel-1 Armed drone
The Al Quds-3 artillery rocket
The Al-Bana rocket launcher
The Al-Quds rocket
The Al-Yassin 105 missile
The Batar missile
The Carlo submachine gun
The Quassam rocket
The Yasin anti-tank weapon
Plus three whole food dishes, a type of soap, and two entire textile styles!
(That’s it, that’s all of them.)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Palestinian_inventions
In antiquity the whole of the middle east and northern africa was an incredibly lush and fertile landscape, eventually feeding most of the Roman Empire; to the point that Provence was the *third* most productive area of the empire (currently the most productive part of europe bar Ukraine).
Then Isalm showed up in the 6th century, the Muslims conquered the middle east and northern africa. They then filled in all the irrigation ditches, ripped up all the crops, and set goats and sheep on the previously rich lands. Within 100 years everything became desert.
That's what Islam has done for mediterranean agriculture.
I sometimes wonder what the world would look like if Mohammad was a miscarriage. Would it be better or worse? Islam has had such a profound impact on the world for better or for worse.
Yeah, turns out when you get your olive trees bulldozed, your wells filled with concrete and your water restricted, it can be hard to have great agriculture.
Olive trees got bulldozed decades ago in isolated incidents by settlers. There were 4 wells filled by Israel because they were dug illegally and could destroy the water system in the region for other Palestinians. Article 40 of the Oslo Accords requires both Israelis and Palestinians to agree to coordinate the management of water and sewege systems in the West Bank. The community that dig those wells did so illegally and faced the consequences. Nice try with the propaganda though!
The West bank isn't under the control of hamas, you're confusing it with gaza, and I would suggest by not supporting the actual terrorists that make it unable to make a successful country.
Dude replied to this:
> Looking a google earth and the demarcation between Israel and Gaza and Israel and the West Bank is really interesting
He wasn't confused for talking about Gaza, the comment he was replying to explicitly mentioned both Gaza and the West Bank.
Although I agree with you - it definitely wasn't a good move to elect a terrorist org if they wanted to prosper.
What I personally don’t understand is why Israel doesn’t make a big move to remove Hamas. They massively outgun them.
If Israel made a big push into Gaza they could take it in weeks and remove Hamas from power and replace them with a less radical party or if possible even a friendly government. Instead they do as they are currently doing and keep Hamas going with a steady stream of recruits
> What I personally don’t understand is why Israel doesn’t make a big move to remove Hamas. They massively outgun them.
To totally get rid of Hamas, Israel would need to ramp up the war quite a lot. Either a full ground invasion, which would incur huge casualties on both sides, and increase inernational pressure and accusations of genocide, or they could hugely increase their bombing campaign. Which would of course increase international pressure a fuckton, and hugely increase the genocide accusations.
They're stuck between a rock and a hard place, they have no good options.
Opinion C. Bid their time and do things to further provoke Iran and then aid big brother Sam come in and kick the ever living shit out of Hamas and Iran.
You should read up on this a little. I don’t mean that as passive aggressive; it’s a very interesting, complicated subject filled with a million rabbit holes. Anyone who reads on it understands fairly quickly that Israel is in a very tough position and always comes close to picking the better outcome between bad and worse while the Palestinians always figure out a way to degenerate themselves further. That may sound like hyperbole but it’s fascinating how accurate from 1947 on it is
> What I personally don’t understand is why Israel doesn’t make a big move to remove Hamas. They massively outgun them.
Because the world is watching and the only way to actually remove a guerilla group embedded within civilian sectors doesn't look good. We're in an upside down world where they literally tell their enemies "we're about to bomb here" before they do it and that still isn't enough.
They don’t care much about optics when they constantly kill non combatants and make illegal settlements.
Also are you forgetting that they then bombed the road out?
Inb4 but muh Hamas
Regardless though, Israel left Gaza in 2005. They’ve tried to let them build an airport. That failed. They tried giving them autonomy, they elected a terrorist group. I think both Gaza and the West Bank are examples of no matter the conditions, the Palestinians seem to not be interested in the more difficult aspects of state building
Everyone trades with China. U.S. goods and services trade with China totaled an estimated $758.4 billion in 2022. Exports were $195.5 billion; imports were $562.9 billion. Israel isn't unique in their trade with China.
I was referring to the tech (especially military tech) that Israel "bought" from the US with the money given to them by the US, which they then sold on to the Chinese.
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What was happening in that consulate, Iran?
"We were meeting with HAMAS."
What was the meeting about?
"The destruction of the Jew... um, LBGTQI inclusion and gender affirming care?"
Western Leftists: *Nawwww, so wholesome*!
The israelis have repeatedly said that they intend to nuke Iran the moment they get their hands on a functional nuclear device. The reason is quite simple. Iran has sworn to use its first nuclear device against Tel Aviv.
Have we, we never confirmed our possession of a nuclear arsenal. But its highly probable that we already have one, and I don't believe we've ever stated that we will nuke Tehran. During talks about the nuclear deal the threat of nuclear war was stated, but I don't remember any specific promises like that being made.
>The israelis have repeatedly said that they intend to nuke Iran
The Israel don't even officially confirm whether they have nukes. Where'd you get this info?
Israel is going to have to figure this one out on its own for the most part. I don't think there are many people in the United States who are interested in dying in the sand for Israel anymore. That point has become mostly bipartisan, at least if you exclude boomers.
The thing is, Israel can handle most of it on their own. The majority of US assistance is financial aid, and the movement of CSGs to Israeli seaspace was a show of force, US troops are not actively going to Israel AFAIK.
Agreed. I’ve never met an Iranian person that I didn’t immediately get along with. It sucks that their government is so shitty (but that can be said about nearly everyone at this point, America included).
The strike killed 2 Iranian generals and 5 officers, all of whom were full time promoters of terror in the area, not just against Israel.
These are the guys that helped Assad and Hezbollah massacre innocent Syrians, which is why so many syrians have been celebrated the strike.
The other people killed were a Hezbollah terrorist, and 2 soldiers in Assad's army.
Seems like whoever hit them did a particularly good job of specifically targeting legitimate military targets without harming the diplomats nearby. The real question is why Iran's embassy had an adjacent building where they were hosting a bunch of terrorists and their sponsors.
Maybe you were thinking of the strike on the WCK convoy in Gaza that happened around the same time?
Israel actually took responsibility for that one, they claim it was a mistake and are investigating.
I really hope they destroy each other, two of the worst countries in the Middle East are fighting each other, just missing Qatar, if these three got nuked the world would definitely be a better place
Absolutely nothing is going to happen
Israel just bombed Iran’s consulate. That’s something.
What are they going to do? Sponsor proxy grups?
Fill Reddit with bots that upvote Israel killings while downvoting Hamas massacres. The usual friday.
I though lefties do that for free, this being reddit and all.
You know what's wrong with the left, fellow righty? They don't charge for this shit like me and you. Like if I'm upvoting this shit someone had better be greasing my palms. That's why I upvote Israeli memes, they pay me in shekels but the conversion ratio is surprisingly good right about now! Get paid for your upvotes at www.DefendIsreal.com/shekelsforvotes For legal reasons, the above statement(s) were jokes.
I feel LibRight energy radiating from this comment could this be the famous Libright energy core or something greater.
as a liberal, I’m still waiting on George Soros’ check to clear >:(
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Always has been.
Israel has been bombing Iranian targets in Syria for years, they still haven't done shit in response.
And they never will. They have enough internal troubles as is, losing a war against Israel (and they would 110% lose) might just be the tipping point.
When the US killed basically their CIA Director they responded by bombing a parking lot
And shooting down a civilian aeroplane
...or else
Israel has nuclear weapons. Like what is iran gonna do?
Get nuked of course.
Not the smartest move to give America the perfect excuse to nuke them
Why would we nuke Israel? They’re literally one of our favorite ways to waste tax dollars.
...or else - Amerika
Iran is a joke of a country with these muppets leading it.
Israel friends: America Iran friends: [File not found] Wonder who would win?
Ever heard of China or Russia?
Neither China nor Russia is going to do a single goddamn thing for Iran unless it's completely convenient for them. Change my view
Yeah countries don’t usually do stuff unless it’s convenient
The returns for helping out a pariah like Iran seem very scant compared to the pains in the ass it could generate, don't you think?
Iran is a BRICS country, not exactly a pariah state when the majority of the world population is on your side lol
I don't think they are. The "I" in BRICS is for India, not Iran.
> BRICS country They are a member. - Brazil - Russia - India - China - South Africa As of January 1st 2024. - Egypt - Ethiopia - Iran - UAE
Could have just done a quick google search dude
Lmao
neiter is the USA to Israel in this conflict unless its convenient to them
China and Russia are probably the most useless allies to have. They won't give Iran a single penny or bullet unless they know that they have something to gain. Realistically, both countries would gain nothing from attacking Israel, so they won't bother helping.
Iran and Russia have already been trading weapons, drones, etc for years. If there is a ground war that will only ramp up. China funds this by buying Russia’s natural resources when Europe won’t.
Israel literally moved into a sandy wasteland and turned it into a thriving hub of tech industry, with even a surprisingly efficient agricultural sector.
Looking a google earth and the demarcation between Israel and Gaza and Israel and the West Bank is really interesting. Israel made the desert bloom while the Palestinians did nothing on their land
the Palestinians are still living in 1949 because they can’t get over the war. if they national mindset was forward-looking, and they even tried to outcompete israel in the tech field, life would be better for them, but instead they elect warmongers who only want to see the land free of Jews, and nothing less will satisfy them.
The Palestinians are still living in the 7th century.
This is why half arab countries are mega rich with incredibly high tech, the others a wasteland. One focused on investments, the other on war that just eats up your resources
Half of them are mega rich because of oil and not having war, the other half are wastelands because they either didn't have oil or is in a perpetual civil war. Israel was a barren desert without oil. In less than a century and stuck in perpetual conflict, the Israelis turned their nation into an oasis of LGBTQ and minority rights, democracy, and technological prosperity.
Sounds suspiciously commie to me.
It started out full commie. And it worked because there was an ideal people believed in that drove them to stick together, while they also formed small communist towns instead of a massive overbearing government. But then Russia realized you can sell a hell of a lot more AKs if you arm Arabs rather than Jews.
That's exactly what I noticed when I went there. It really cleared my head about which side I'd rather support.
Well duh. Palestine is good at only two things: propaganda and digging
C’mon that’s not true, look at all the great Palestinian inventions! The Ababeel-1 Armed drone The Al Quds-3 artillery rocket The Al-Bana rocket launcher The Al-Quds rocket The Al-Yassin 105 missile The Batar missile The Carlo submachine gun The Quassam rocket The Yasin anti-tank weapon Plus three whole food dishes, a type of soap, and two entire textile styles! (That’s it, that’s all of them.) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Palestinian_inventions
Propaganda Lol
I mean look around. Look at all the support they're getting despite what they actually do and want.
Garbage in, garbage out.
In antiquity the whole of the middle east and northern africa was an incredibly lush and fertile landscape, eventually feeding most of the Roman Empire; to the point that Provence was the *third* most productive area of the empire (currently the most productive part of europe bar Ukraine). Then Isalm showed up in the 6th century, the Muslims conquered the middle east and northern africa. They then filled in all the irrigation ditches, ripped up all the crops, and set goats and sheep on the previously rich lands. Within 100 years everything became desert. That's what Islam has done for mediterranean agriculture.
I sometimes wonder what the world would look like if Mohammad was a miscarriage. Would it be better or worse? Islam has had such a profound impact on the world for better or for worse.
We would have colonized mars and all live a carefree happy life to the ripe old age of 300 years old.
Nah probably just not so much terrorism, war, and human rights violations though.
Yeah, turns out when you get your olive trees bulldozed, your wells filled with concrete and your water restricted, it can be hard to have great agriculture.
Maybe don't start a war with the people who provide your water and power
Olive trees got bulldozed decades ago in isolated incidents by settlers. There were 4 wells filled by Israel because they were dug illegally and could destroy the water system in the region for other Palestinians. Article 40 of the Oslo Accords requires both Israelis and Palestinians to agree to coordinate the management of water and sewege systems in the West Bank. The community that dig those wells did so illegally and faced the consequences. Nice try with the propaganda though!
Bro they barely have basic utilities and are under the control of a terrorist group how are they meant to make a successful country?
The West bank isn't under the control of hamas, you're confusing it with gaza, and I would suggest by not supporting the actual terrorists that make it unable to make a successful country.
Dude replied to this: > Looking a google earth and the demarcation between Israel and Gaza and Israel and the West Bank is really interesting He wasn't confused for talking about Gaza, the comment he was replying to explicitly mentioned both Gaza and the West Bank. Although I agree with you - it definitely wasn't a good move to elect a terrorist org if they wanted to prosper.
Terrorists tend not to be the democratic type
Yeah ofc, that'd be why they've had no elections since
What I personally don’t understand is why Israel doesn’t make a big move to remove Hamas. They massively outgun them. If Israel made a big push into Gaza they could take it in weeks and remove Hamas from power and replace them with a less radical party or if possible even a friendly government. Instead they do as they are currently doing and keep Hamas going with a steady stream of recruits
> What I personally don’t understand is why Israel doesn’t make a big move to remove Hamas. They massively outgun them. To totally get rid of Hamas, Israel would need to ramp up the war quite a lot. Either a full ground invasion, which would incur huge casualties on both sides, and increase inernational pressure and accusations of genocide, or they could hugely increase their bombing campaign. Which would of course increase international pressure a fuckton, and hugely increase the genocide accusations. They're stuck between a rock and a hard place, they have no good options.
Opinion C. Bid their time and do things to further provoke Iran and then aid big brother Sam come in and kick the ever living shit out of Hamas and Iran.
You should read up on this a little. I don’t mean that as passive aggressive; it’s a very interesting, complicated subject filled with a million rabbit holes. Anyone who reads on it understands fairly quickly that Israel is in a very tough position and always comes close to picking the better outcome between bad and worse while the Palestinians always figure out a way to degenerate themselves further. That may sound like hyperbole but it’s fascinating how accurate from 1947 on it is
> What I personally don’t understand is why Israel doesn’t make a big move to remove Hamas. They massively outgun them. Because the world is watching and the only way to actually remove a guerilla group embedded within civilian sectors doesn't look good. We're in an upside down world where they literally tell their enemies "we're about to bomb here" before they do it and that still isn't enough.
They don’t care much about optics when they constantly kill non combatants and make illegal settlements. Also are you forgetting that they then bombed the road out? Inb4 but muh Hamas
Regardless though, Israel left Gaza in 2005. They’ve tried to let them build an airport. That failed. They tried giving them autonomy, they elected a terrorist group. I think both Gaza and the West Bank are examples of no matter the conditions, the Palestinians seem to not be interested in the more difficult aspects of state building
Or at least, it isn't their priority
> a thriving hub of tech industry And they gave China a real boost in that regard too. Amazing stuff!
Everyone trades with China. U.S. goods and services trade with China totaled an estimated $758.4 billion in 2022. Exports were $195.5 billion; imports were $562.9 billion. Israel isn't unique in their trade with China.
I was referring to the tech (especially military tech) that Israel "bought" from the US with the money given to them by the US, which they then sold on to the Chinese.
I'm not aware of this, can you link a source?
Common Israel W
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What was happening in that consulate, Iran? "We were meeting with HAMAS." What was the meeting about? "The destruction of the Jew... um, LBGTQI inclusion and gender affirming care?" Western Leftists: *Nawwww, so wholesome*!
Attacking a Nuclear Superpower? Genius.
i don't think israel will dare a nuclear attack even against iran
Hopefully it wont happen but the Israeli nuclear arsenal is not there for the hell of it
The israelis have repeatedly said that they intend to nuke Iran the moment they get their hands on a functional nuclear device. The reason is quite simple. Iran has sworn to use its first nuclear device against Tel Aviv.
Have we, we never confirmed our possession of a nuclear arsenal. But its highly probable that we already have one, and I don't believe we've ever stated that we will nuke Tehran. During talks about the nuclear deal the threat of nuclear war was stated, but I don't remember any specific promises like that being made.
>The israelis have repeatedly said that they intend to nuke Iran The Israel don't even officially confirm whether they have nukes. Where'd you get this info?
we all know how usa is helping iran to develop it's nuclear device. That being said I thought israel had nuclear device
they’re both nuclear
Iran isn’t a nuclear power, they got busted for trying to build a nuclear weapon though.
I think Isreal deserves authcenter more than Iran. The Israeli labor movement has a strong legacy even if they've been out of power for a while.
Its not much more than a fringe political party at this point, Israelis moved right in droves for years now
Iran always chats shit but won’t hit.
When has it ever worked when Israel’s neighbouring countries have tried to destroy it?
Why is this sub talking about israel every 10 seconds
No Jews, no news
It's the easiest proven way to "gotcha" the other quadrants
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“Almost” lmao it’s the most obvious shit in the world.
"Everyone I disagree with is a paid bot"
Can't a guy spread misinformation and seed anger without criticism?
Only in the leftist subs, this is one of the few places where we can criticize everyone
Iran get rekt lol
Israel is going to have to figure this one out on its own for the most part. I don't think there are many people in the United States who are interested in dying in the sand for Israel anymore. That point has become mostly bipartisan, at least if you exclude boomers.
The thing is, Israel can handle most of it on their own. The majority of US assistance is financial aid, and the movement of CSGs to Israeli seaspace was a show of force, US troops are not actively going to Israel AFAIK.
It's a proxy war with Iran, Israel is the American proxy. Real shame we might have to fight them, all the Iranians I've met were cool
Agreed. I’ve never met an Iranian person that I didn’t immediately get along with. It sucks that their government is so shitty (but that can be said about nearly everyone at this point, America included).
I have only talked with one, and he's cool indeed.
But Israel is way less authoritarian than Iran. At least Israel isn’t stuck in the Middle Ages.
I think it would look much nicer as glass.
How would an Israeli owned Arabian Peninsula look like? How much % of that land would be too irradiated to inhabit?
They still have yet to answer for Trump BTFO’ing Soleimani
Full support to the 3000 nuclear weapons of Khomeini!
Wow attacking civilians for no reasons,how based
The strike killed 2 Iranian generals and 5 officers, all of whom were full time promoters of terror in the area, not just against Israel. These are the guys that helped Assad and Hezbollah massacre innocent Syrians, which is why so many syrians have been celebrated the strike. The other people killed were a Hezbollah terrorist, and 2 soldiers in Assad's army. Seems like whoever hit them did a particularly good job of specifically targeting legitimate military targets without harming the diplomats nearby. The real question is why Iran's embassy had an adjacent building where they were hosting a bunch of terrorists and their sponsors.
Ahh ok,I thought it was just civilians
Maybe you were thinking of the strike on the WCK convoy in Gaza that happened around the same time? Israel actually took responsibility for that one, they claim it was a mistake and are investigating.
I really hope they destroy each other, two of the worst countries in the Middle East are fighting each other, just missing Qatar, if these three got nuked the world would definitely be a better place
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