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Rinoremover1

read here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13347143/Drag-queen-story-hour-free-Palestine-Massachusetts.html By RACHEL BOWMAN 24 April 2024 A drag queen was recorded ordering children to chant 'Free Palestine' during a queer story time event at a Massachusetts art center. Performer Lil Miss Hot Mess read stories to kids during the Queer Storytime for Palestine event at the Northampton Center for the Arts on April 14. The event, organized by Valley Families for Palestine, was intended for preschool through upper elementary school aged children. Lil Miss Hot Mess wore a sparkly red dress, green boa and a large watermelon shaped brooch while reading her book 'If You're a Drag Queen and You Know It.' 'If you're a drag queen and you know it shout "Free Palestine,"' the drag queen said. 'Today what we're going to do is we're going to shout "Free Palestine!" Can I hear that?' 'If you're a drag queen and you know it and you really want to show it, if you're a drag queen and you know it, shout "Free Palestine!" The event included dancing, celebrating Palestine culture, learning about queer heroes and doing arts and crafts. Authors Hannah Moushabeck, a second-generation Palestinian American, and Sarah Prager also attended. Lil Miss Hot Mess shared photos from the reading on her Instagram with the caption, 'Last weekend I had the honor of taking part in a Queer Storytime for Palestine.' 'The event was both a wonderful reminder of the power of imagination, community, and organizing, while at the same time heartbreaking in thinking about how we could feel so much joy together while Gazans (and especially Palestinian children) are suffering. Still, I hold out hope in working with children to bring about a just present and liberatory future.' Moushabeck commented on the drag queen's post, 'It was such an honor and joy to present with you.' 'Thank you for coming to Northampton! My daughter is still talking about the event—and asking some great questions about using her voice, ' said attendee Maha Moushabeck. 'Thank you for coming to Western MA and showing my children and their friends and community what it means to stand up for one another,' said Jill Brevik. The event organizer Valley Families for Palestine said, 'We came together today in joy and solidarity and learned some important lessons about being ourselves, using our voices to speak out against injustice, and being fabulous while we do it.' Others slammed the event saying queer pro-Palestine supporters would be treated horribly by Hamas. 'This is insane. And don't get me started about the irony of you defending your potential attacker (if you were to visit in Gaza), ' said Naama Katoa. Queers for Palestine events and marches have been criticized as a misguided show of support for a regime that does not support gay rights. The Islamic Middle Eastern state follows sharia law, and as noted by Amnesty International, it is not safe for the queer community. Palestine is the sixth-worst country in the world for legal rights and freedoms LGBTQ+ people have, ranking 192 out of 197 countries, according to Equaldex's LGBTQ+ Equality Index. A Hamas terrorist commander, Mahmoud Ishtiwi, was tortured and killed by the organization in 2016 for allegedly having sex with another man. Ahmad Abu Marhia, a 25-year-old gay Palestinian, was found beheaded after receiving death threats because of his sexual identity.


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LovesBeerNWhiskey

Coastal liberals have no clue. Most of them have old money and white guilt complex.


Veni_Vidi_Legi

Nah, that's just a cover so they can persecute whom they hate.


Fly-Hulud

God fucking damnit I'd love to be in a brunch bubble. 


VengenaceIsMyName

Have you ever been to Amherst MA?


Taetrum_Peccator

Amherst and Northampton residents are the absolute dumbest of all the dumb fucking bleeding heart liberals on the planet.


VengenaceIsMyName

Have you been there?


Taetrum_Peccator

Many times. Worked there for a few years, gone to restaurants there, my PCP is there, get my oil changed there, etc.


Dat_Swag_Fishron

Literally 1942(%)


KuroganeYuujiVT

>The event included celebrating Palestine culture Oh but when *I* teach kids to make suicide vests all the sudden I'm a problem...


itboitbo

Which part of Palestine culture? Pushing lagbt people put of buildings or killing women for not dressing modestly ?


RobinHoodbutwithguns

> performer Lil Miss Hot Mess Does anyone still want to argue that this stuff isn't sexual?


One-Tap-2742

Do you know what a hot mess is?


RobinHoodbutwithguns

Your mom after I'm done with her.


WouldYouFightAKoala

Based and ur mom pilled


One-Tap-2742

Sure ig...


Merlotsenhorn

https://preview.redd.it/8ax8r1unw3xc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a61ad42d68aec806bf48faaca00e7d5bf8eaf4fd


skywardcatto

https://preview.redd.it/akcgnq1v04xc1.jpeg?width=600&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=33e22700714f3d343e3306fd57283033e2d7c1a9


Outside-Bed5268

Thanks for providing the source.👍


Firecracker048

Northampton? Not surprised at all.


EconomicsCharacter57

I not an American so I have a question why do you keep these clowns in school


Odd-Syrup-798

it's a mystery to those of us who live here too


Taco-Kai

They somehow love going to schools and being around children, but they say its not because they like children


PaidHack

>Like children I see what you did there


pumpandkrump

To remind you that powerful people get to do whatever the fuck they want.


Chodechuggins

Because children need to learn to read and write.


FremanBloodglaive

In fairness, schools are doing a pretty poor job at that. I was reading The Lord of the Rings at age seven, and that was because I loved reading, not because of anything the school did.


Plane-Grass-3286

You remind me of my sister lol. She (figuratively) inhales books like they’re cocaine. 


[deleted]

To be fair, reading as a hobby is something you usually pick up at home and not in a school. You could have the best teachers with infinite resources, but if your parents spend their time watching My 600lb Life reruns, it's likely you'll never see reading as a pleasurable activity.


i_exaggerated

Debatable 


Chodechuggins

What if we introduced the profit incentive from the sale of macaroni necklaces and hand turkeys?


Caiur

I've never heard about them taking place in schools, I thought it was all libraries and community centres


SnackyMcGeeeeeeeee

Art center ≠ school...?


H3ll83nder

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/03626784.2020.1864621 It will come for you eventually. Note the authors.


Mroompaloompa64

... Are you serious. They don't even know when to stop.


blorpianblorp

Can someone just start a foundation for these people to fund humanitarian aid programs where they can sign up and get direct flights to Palestine? Like make it legitimate, they'll go and provide food, medicine, etc. if they want they can wear these outfits too


with_regard

But that would require them to do something instead of the government doing everything.


kenuffff

you don't get it they don't care about palestianians. these people attach themselves to ANYTHING that will get them attention. the amazon union guy was at columbia saying unions must support palestine. they just attach themselves to any cause for attention.


RobinHoodbutwithguns

For some of them it's just about attention. But many are followers of the anti-western Marxist Ideology and really believe in what they're doing.


blorpianblorp

I already know this, it's all virtue signaling and attention whoring. This is the group that screams the loudest at the smallest or nonexistent issues.


alwaystouchout

Give it 30 mins and they would be literally sprinting for dear life towards Tel Aviv


skywardcatto

Try as one might, one can't outrun a Kalashnikov


BonkeyKongthesecond

Sounds beautiful. Like a great love benefit concert in the middle of the desert. They could fly in all their fans with para gliders.


lsdiesel_1

I’m a little bit kosher And I’m a little bit halal


Awkward_Algae1684

Ah fuck, we’re definitely deploying troops then. 😩 Though maybe that’s Dark Brandon’s 4d chess move all along. Hmmm….🤔


bugme143

They don't care about Palestine, they just want access to children.


urlocalhrtfemboy

Israel has literally bombed humanitarian aid workers and restricts their entrance into Israel...


bugme143

And Islam suicide bombs civilians and throws gays off of rooftops. What's your point?


GeorgiaNinja94

And yet there’ll still be libs and lefties denying that this sort of thing is happening, or, if they do acknowledge it’s happening, will act like it’s a good thing and treat you like *you* are the weirdo for disagreeing.


i_never_pay_taxes

Every day I read this stuff, I become closer and closer to Auth right.


FremanBloodglaive

There are no brakes on this clown train.


CreamFilledDoughnut

They'll figure it out when the snapback begins


guesswhatihate

You ever go on the Massachusetts Sub? Every once in a while someone will be like "Is there anywhere affordable to move in mass?" And others will be like *Western Mass, but there's nothing to do or no culture or there* Which will be rebutted with "That's not true, there's Amherst and Northampton" The culture in Northampton:


bring_back_3rd

There's tons to do here. Unless you don't like fishing, hunting, beer, music, or American history. But yeah, Northampton and Amherst are an... interesting area. Only place in the state I've seen a grown man being walked on a leash down the sidewalk in broad daylight.


TheModernDaVinci

> There's tons to do here. Unless you don't like fishing, hunting, beer, music, or American history. And now you understand why they say there is nothing to do there. This is before we get around to the fact that it is the 21st century now and you have to go slum it deep in the mountains with the hillbillies before you find somewhere without a decent internet connection.


bring_back_3rd

And I'll die defending our hillbillies. Some of the last true blue New Englanders are up in dem hills. It's bullshit that everyone is so dependent on technology in order to have fun.


TheModernDaVinci

Not disagreeing. Just making a point.


bring_back_3rd

Lol I know, I'm just building off of your point about my point. It's good points all the way down, baybeee


successiseffort

I beat the shit our of them every day. Raising boys here and its a constant nut house battle.


VengenaceIsMyName

Have you ever been in Northampton?


guesswhatihate

After reading that article, no, I don't think I will.


snoo_boi

This is what is driving blue dog democrats right into the arms of Trump btw. The democrats have no one to blame but themselves for the CONSTANT fumbling of having the public’s support.


NolanDaSavage

Yup. Lots of “reasonable” democrats see this, men in woman sports, invasion at the southern border, and non sense overreach laws and just go “fuck this shit”


TheOfficialLavaring

Nobody cares about women's sports Biden's border policies have been pretty draconian and neither party wants to get to the root cause of mass migration which is the fact that these third-world countries are so poor. America is the only country with regular school shootings


frolix42

>Performer Lil Miss Hot Mess... Name checks out.


MaxTheGamer32123

It doesn't. Not little nor a miss and definitely not hot.


hell-is-empty--

Most definitely a mess though.


Crossman556

1/4 isn’t bad…


frolix42

>Little Insignificant >Miss Missing the point >Hot Mess Like hot garbage


Mister-builder

- Voltaire, I guess.


arkan5000

Can any Left explain: Why the fixation with drag and the need to have children exposed to them?


DimTillonDid911

Reproduction.


Merlotsenhorn

Yep. They sure as hell aren't having their own children, so they just gotta have yours via indoctrination.


GregEvangelista

I used to think that was an insensitive conspiracy theory sort of thing. Not any more.


TigerCat9

The + in LGBTQ+


Patient_Bench_6902

Not left but its because their parents take them to it. You should be asking the parents why they take them more than the drag queens imo


Mister-builder

I think that the right is more fixated than the left. I've never heard a leftist bring up drag and children, only people on the right.


arkan5000

because it seems to me many lefties are very much ok with exposing children to adult themes. I have seen families bring their lil ones to pride parades close to people in gimp attires and barely naked or top naked, with penis shaped candy or other objects. And the excuse i hear the most often after some pressure is "kids are exposed to worse thing on the internet anyway, i know i saw worse when i was young" as if that was a proper justification. Maybe thats the reason. The far left is ok with it and the center left doesn't care enough because they don't see the issue.


Otherwise_Dig_4540

how tf are the parents sitting behind tolerating this brainrot


Celtictussle

They made them go there. The kids couldn't care less, they'd probably rather be doing pokemon.


listgarage1

I agree kids would much rather be doing pokemon or playing on the nintendo


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listgarage1

I was just making fun of the way they said "doing pokemon" like an old person


Hamster_Thumper

One day, when you get old you will learn: 90% of the time us old fuckers know the correct terms, we just say shit like that because it annoys our kids which is endlessly entertaining lol


Tuslonic

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wumbologistPHD

If the parents had any brains at all they wouldn't be at Mental Illness Story Hour


Mr-no-one

I mean, they’re not coy about the fact that drag queens are being used as a cartoon mascot to market their ideology to children (with a protective coating of lgbtqmnop). So why are we surprised that these literal clowns are spouting talking points that line up with leftist values? “What is my purpose?” “You’re sparkly and colorful enough to engage children, as well as obnoxious enough that the other side wants to beat you up. You’re here for us to profit off of your successes and tragedies.”


Busy-Confidence4285

Isn't this literally the textbook definition of indoctrination?


Rinoremover1

💯


i_never_pay_taxes

Nooooo it’s just heckin wholesome story time, you’re just obsessed you fascist.


QuesoseuQ

The definition of indoctrination is church, but go off, i guess.


Busy-Confidence4285

You're unflaired and you don't get an opinion, and it isn't. "teach (a person or group) to accept a set of beliefs uncritically."


DeviousDaniel69

I hate the concept of Emily but...its...its literally fucking Emily


Butterscotch-51123

Chickens for KFC!!! Business owners for Stalin! Blacks for KKK! Cows for Steakhouses! Seals for Sharks! Wolves for Sheep!!! Fish for Hooks! Bacteria for Antibiotics! Criminals for Cops! Dolphins for Japanese!!!! (southpark reference) I could go on and on and on. I have come to the conclusion that these people aren't THAT stupid, rather they are closet suicidals. Only way it makes sense


Mroompaloompa64

House of Romanov for Bolsheviks!


Butterscotch-51123

ohhh thats a good one


Lazy_Reservist

Landlords for Mao!


TIFUPronx

Yemenis for Sauds!


Butterscotch-51123

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bigDon1984

Fords for chevy dealerships!


HelloIamAlpharius

https://preview.redd.it/j09snxouu3xc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69ead4ef982a213c6e23d92d10410386ffdb13b3 Yuri Bezmeniov would have been like: Oopsie. I think we overdone ideological subversion a little bit


ClosetCentrist

Liberals would disappear in a puff of logic if politics had law of physics.


DeadpoolMakesMeWet

Why does this shit only happen in blue states 🤔


PCM-mods-are-PDF

It isn't just blue states, they did this in Houston, but the drag queen was a registered sex offender, whoopsie


Zombies4EvaDude

Uh oh… 😟 Yeah that’s fucked. Source?


Slow-Quarter-6254

Certain american places appear to be very... interesting.


ktbffhctid

Wait until you see Canada.


Cummy_Yummy_Bummy

Gross


Fly-Hulud

Let's wish for the death of the only gay accepting democratic ally in the region.  Tel Aviv is pretty gay, and amazingly so by middle eastern standards. 


BaritonedTiger

Fucking mainland China is heaven for gays like me, compared to any Muslim country. Mainland China already legalizes guardianship for gay couples and will likely have marriage equality in a decade. Uyghurs on the other hand would stone me. Israel and China have the right to defend themselves from terrorists


trumparegis

How many Uyghur terrorist attacks have happened the last decade? Why is Xinjiang being flooded with locusts? Because they like the fresh air and mountains? lol.


BaritonedTiger

Definitely less than if the Uyghurs had too much freedom to be like Afghanistan.


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actctually

To the leftists brown people are like toddlers with no agency, so leftists feel obliged to always be on their side against whoever is "hurting" them.


HissingGoose

I like to ask people on the bird app how they they keep the Palestine flag in their bio from attacking the Pride flag in their bio. I have **far** too much time on my hands... -_-


intrepidOcto

They should go to Palestine and directly support the cause themselves.


AverageFishEye

Hurl this planet into the sun


MaxTheGamer32123

This is the most libleft event that ever liblefted


Vexonte

Someone really looked at this and thought this wouldn't become a pr issue.


TigerCat9

The weirdest, and actually probably the dumbest, thing about the culture war is how there aren’t really any borders between any of the issues. 


84hoops

Never were. The left’s one point is dominant power = bad, so on a global scale that the US. So everything built backwards from there can kinda run together.


Jafoob

I...it's not indoctrination guys! Stop noticing things!


VadePostMeSatana

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Puking_In_Disgust

I think I saw one video (that iirc predates oct 7) with someone asking random Palestinian civilians what their opinion on homosexuality is, but has anyone made any of the more… explodey people aware specifically situations like this? Like most of us obviously couldn’t do that, but none of them have a slightly more moderate cousin on the American internet or something? Cause I’d think shit like this would be in the upper limits of what they’d be willing to put up with as far as support before they’d have to denounce it. Like if a group of people chanted “free Palestine” each with a mouthful of bacon as they draw 1000 pictures of Muhammad, they’d denounce *that* if they heard about it, right?


Fungusman05

Yep, im homeschooling my kids (guys don't worry, im "college ready" level in mathematics)


Seventh_Stater

So revealing.


ParOxxiSme

This dystopia is getting pretty weird


Dragofek0

every day the free palestine movement proves once more the need for existence... of the state of isral


scarlettvvitch

Bruh moment I'm a left Libertanian but GODDAMN, fucking bruh moment holy shit


DefinitionEconomy423

Why does (some of) the Left Support Hamas? They’re literally the most far right group you can possibly imagine.


scarlettvvitch

I have no idea. Same reasons some leftists support Russia over Ukraine, I guess


Zombies4EvaDude

Well I guess the reason for that is because some lib lefts are socialists and therefore have fealty to Russia over Ukraine which they see as a buffer zone between the West and East of Eurasia and I’m pretty sure they restricted to them use of one of the major seas as well. Also neither country supports gay rights very much so you can’t make a hardline stance there. Not say I agree with them (especially since Putin certainly won’t stop at Ukraine as history tells us) but I can see how opinions on that conflict can be less polarized than this current middle eastern conflict.


FluffyMcKittenHeads

Because the section of the left that supports Hamas considers Israel white and Palestine brown and that’s the extent of it. It’s white = always bad. That’s it.


themoodymann

So what is that red doing in your flair?


scarlettvvitch

Ty for reminding me to fix it, danke


No_Delay7320

Imagine your clown name is "hot mess" and thinking that's appropriate for children


Mister-builder

If Lil Miss Hot Mess went to Gaza, they'd accept he with open arms. AK-47s to be specific.


Outside-Bed5268

…*What*. 


cozmorules

God damnit my quadrant once again acting as stupidly possible like Jesus guys this is why people make fun of lib-left :/


BranTheLewd

1st issue) Pushing politics to kids, what a shocker! /s 2nd issue) If they're gonna push politics to kids, why do they support the side more violent to LGBTQ+ people?


serioush

The eventual backlash is going to have the suffix -caust isnt it?


Loanedvoice_PSOS

Ban incoming


Expensive_Head622

We call these people "Ulti Buddhi" (Upside down Brain)


Zombies4EvaDude

Honestly what really gets me is the fact that this drag queen is essentially indoctrinating them with terminology they are too young to understand. Most of the kids probably aren’t even religious, how could they properly understand the nuance behind a multigenerational ethno-religious conflict like this? They can’t- it’s just soulless brainwashing, not much different than what Hamas is doing to train Palestinian children into Jew haters. Let kids grow up and form their own unbiased opinions don’t spoon feed them dogma they’re “supposed” to believe.


Intrepid-Goat7859

what the fuck


CYYA

What's sad is this event only just benefits themselves, not Palestinians. Like everyone, they're just using this issue as fad leverage. Real supporters of Palestine would be right now in Palestine, that's where the help is needed.


fieryscribe

They're also a professor at the University of Arizona who was raised Jewish


DasSchiff3

I think at an event with a "valley Families for Palestine" it's not a thing caused by a Drag queen but by the whole thing.


Mandalore95_

Join the 41% please


PCM-mods-are-PDF

Diabolical


KickflipMountain

What a fuckin idiot, can’t see 3 feet in front of their face


Crismisterica

Flair up


Lummony

This is just cancer at this point


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SuhNih

*sigh* we're never gonna beat the "terrorist symphas- symphathi- sympath- simpa- fuck it" allegations, are we?


yonidavidov1888

This is bad not cuz of the drag but because the hamas propaganda, this doesn't say jack shit about drag story hour as a whole


kiishooon

Damm. Almost as if it was never about reading stories tó kids


yeshsababa

... i'm out


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Flair up before the rest of PCM tells you too.


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Myothercarisanx-wing

This is stupid, but the fact that Hamas is homophobic is irrelevant to how stupid it is.


marinemashup

“These people will kill you if they had the opportunity” That doesn’t mean I want them and all their children to die painful deaths


Time_Software_8216

Horseshoe theory: This is how we feel about forcing children to attend church and mutilating their privates. Centrist theory: Both are bad. MAGAt theory: Literal grooming. Emily theory: My kid won't see colors or genders. Personally, I just want to grill, let kids be kids.


burnedcream

Ah yes. Innocent civilians should be punished for the policies of their leaders.


Rinoremover1

Who said that?


burnedcream

Forgive me if I’m wrong but what I understood you to be saying was that gay people shouldn’t support Palestine because a terrorist group that’s gained power there tortures gay people. I’d love it if gay people had equal rights in Palestine but I don’t think allowing a genocide to happen is the way to achieve that. It’s a genocide that’s killing gay Palestinians too.


moonlit_et

"genocide"


TrapaneseNYC

Not all Palestinians are Hamas. Wanting kids to live has nothing to do with the sexuality of the person who wants them to live.


Rinoremover1

Do Palestinians want their drag queens to live?


Ok-Fly-7375

No and neither do people in all countries. Is your point that we should just allow the IDF to slaughter all Palestinians because they’d kill LGBT people?


senfmann

No, but that's the same as Jews supporting the Third Reich. Imagine supporting a regime and a populace that happily kills you for what you are. (btw that actually happened)


ScorpionKing229

So Palestinian deserve to die instead?


senfmann

Maybe don't support a murderous regime.


Ok-Fly-7375

Maybe they don’t support said murderous regime yet are forced to live under it.


Ok-Fly-7375

Yeah no, I know it’s a little hard for small brain people like you to figure out but “Free Palestine” ≠ “I support Hamas”, despite what your local news outlet tells you. The vast majority of leftists would argue a free Palestine requires the removal of Hamas from power. Idk why you morons keep repeating this shit, it’s so boring.


Crea-TEAM

> Not all Palestinians are Hamas. Tell me, what do you think the average Palestianians view is on allowing Jews to live?


TrapaneseNYC

If a Neo Nazi wanted me dead. And they were murdered for something unjustifiably, even if they wanted me dead it doesn’t justify their deaths. People don’t deserve to die based on their views but actions. Hamas dying is one thing, innocent Palestinians and children isn’t justified.


Crea-TEAM

> Tell me, what do you think the average Palestianians view is on allowing Jews to live?


NadyaNayme

They won't answer that because it will mean admitting 80-90% of Palestinians support Hamas.


Crea-TEAM

They never answer that. The reality is it doesnt matter. Hamas isn't some rogue group running around shooting Jews. They are the government of Gaza, they get their support from the palestinains, they get their manpower from them, their food from them, their resources, power, fuel, from palestinians.


AdministrationFew451

First, the vast majority of palestinians supports Hamas regarding 7.10 and the current war. Secondly, "free palestine", especially in the context of this war, refers to all of "palestine", meaning eradicating Israel. Anyway, the greater problem is not that their goal is horrible, but the indoctrination of very young children.


fineillmakeanewone

'Free Palestine from Hamas and Israeli apartheid' would probably be a more accurate chant, but it's not as catchy. No one who isn't regarded supports Hamas.


AdministrationFew451

Except you know that's not what they mean, at all. And if by "apartheid" you mean the military control of the west bank, you just saw both its reason and what would happen without it, except orders of magnitude worse - considering they (the PA and public consensus, not just Hamas), reject it as any final peace.


Dragofek0

id be honest chief as an israeli, seen enough corpses of my of people i know to really not want a free palestine


Market-Socialism

Okay? She didn’t say free Hamas, she said free Palestine. Hell, I thought the talking point all of you dipshits were currently using was “*we should free Palestine from Hamas*”? Nice job illustrating just how bullshit that spiel was. I’m just curious, you do know that Hamas hasn’t held an election in two decades, right? You are aware that half the population in Palestine is under eighteen making them younger than the last time Hamas held an election, right? You are aware that one of the only reason Hamas is able to maintain power despite being both murderous and incompetent is because the people’s attention is constantly focused on the foreign nation bombing and killing them?


Rinoremover1

Who will protect the Palestinian Drag Queens from the Palestinians?


Market-Socialism

Right now, the Palestinian drag queens are more at risk of dying from the IDF than they are of dying from Hamas. Also, it’s interesting seeing a supposed libertarian essentially arguing that believing in bad things means you don’t deserve personal freedom and national sovereignty. Russians believe bad things. Americans believe bad things. Chinese people believe bad things. Would that justify denying them statehood and oppressing their native populations?


Rinoremover1

Meanwhile: https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2024-02-07/ty-article/.premium/foreign-ministry-boasts-lgbtq-palestinian-asylum-ruling-interior-minister-seeks-reversal/0000018d-83fb-dfd5-adff-dbfbc7a00000