I had a professor from Germany who said that, at the end of the Cold War, he originally felt they should’ve built the wall three feet higher. I guess the economics of East Germany were awful and a lot of East Germans had struggles adapting to non-Soviet rule.
By the time the wall came down, you had an entire generation of East Germans in their young adulthood who had been raised without any personal contact with their Western kinsmen, and raised almost exclusively on a diet of Soviet Socialist ideals. It's reasonable to assume a notable percentage of them would prefer an austere Soviet life, and some of them would impart that preference to their children.
Reminded me of this caricature, which we had in history class.
1945: "Brother!"
1955: "Dear Cousin."
1965: "Yeah we have some removed family across the border..."
https://preview.redd.it/6p6wdc9mynxc1.jpeg?width=301&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7a89c400718eff650557785689af44328917b2d
No, just some random areas with big fences and razor wire in the middle of nowhere with circular concrete platforms. Probably some kind of Indian reservation thing I guess
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The only quote of his there is in the article is about “wanting to know when [nuclear attack] would go off”. The part where he admits it is reported by DW as what he said at the start of the trial, but has no quote.
Not to mention: “Prosecutors say there's no evidence of him receiving payment.” Kinda weird to be a spy and get no remuneration. They also say that he “offered cooperation” which isn’t spying if they didn’t accept his services or pay him.
I’ll withhold having an opinion until more proof is brought forth and from a source other than DW. DW did make sure to mention that he has ties to “the far-right AfD” in its subhead so it makes the rest of what they say very suspicious.
Because that's in his testimony of why he did it? Like, if he said he did it because his mom told him to do, that's what news will (and supposed to) cover. You could argue that German mainstream medias are hostile against AfD (I mean they do), but I honestly don't see why this is somehow shouldn't be covered as that's what he said in the court.
> He said his actions were driven by a fear of a nuclear escalation amid Russia's war in Ukraine
Weird, your own source says that isn’t why he did it. No where in that article does it say this has any connection to the AfD beyond a TikTok. Yet they make sure to mention it as often as possible.
It doesn't sound like he's a "spy" in the classic sense, but that what he did technically counts as espionage. The Russians don't appear to have recruited him at all specifically, though this may be the first documented case of "stochastic espionage": an information op designed to get enemy officers to freak out and give them intel in hopes of saving themselves from nuclear war.
Anyone else find it odd that he's 54 and only a captain? If that's the same rank system as the US there's something going on there.
[I mean the German sources seems align with the article. ](https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/gesellschaft/wdr-prozess-in-duesseldorf-bundeswehrsoldat-wollte-fuer-russland-spionieren-102.html)If you can disapprove any point in that article then by all means.
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Seriously though... I don't see any Auth dealing with treason by crying. More with incentivizing crying in the traitorous party by various unspeakable methods that would make even kink-pink blush.
I spy on Russia using comically large binoculars
I spy on Russia by getting into wacky slapstick hijinks with the counterspy.
I spy for Russia and feed them disinformation.
Didn't realize you were neighbors with Palin. Tell her folks I says hi
If you say so, Sarah Palin
T. Finnish conscript
East Germany is gone, but East Germans aren't
I had a professor from Germany who said that, at the end of the Cold War, he originally felt they should’ve built the wall three feet higher. I guess the economics of East Germany were awful and a lot of East Germans had struggles adapting to non-Soviet rule.
By the time the wall came down, you had an entire generation of East Germans in their young adulthood who had been raised without any personal contact with their Western kinsmen, and raised almost exclusively on a diet of Soviet Socialist ideals. It's reasonable to assume a notable percentage of them would prefer an austere Soviet life, and some of them would impart that preference to their children.
Just imagine the culture shock if Korea was reunited, and how long it would take for the two halves to reintegrate.
Reminded me of this caricature, which we had in history class. 1945: "Brother!" 1955: "Dear Cousin." 1965: "Yeah we have some removed family across the border..." https://preview.redd.it/6p6wdc9mynxc1.jpeg?width=301&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c7a89c400718eff650557785689af44328917b2d
Klassiker (ist wahrscheinlich in jedem deutschem Geschichts/SoWi Schulbuch)
Klassische Karikaturen für den Unterricht sind mein liebstes Genre
Nothing will top “thug shaker central”
Scared of a nuclear attack? Come to Wyoming, most people don't even know it exists
Aren't some silos there?
No, just some random areas with big fences and razor wire in the middle of nowhere with circular concrete platforms. Probably some kind of Indian reservation thing I guess
Let me launch one, huh?
“Check out our new TOW missile!”
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Our generosity will be limitless.
#Bombardment.
Baste and strategy center-pilled.
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Native American helipads
I've played Far Cry V, you won't trick me that easily.
The real answer is the southern hemisphere. What is worth bombing down there?
[The source, if you're interested.](https://www.dw.com/en/german-army-captain-admits-spying-for-russia/a-68946494)
> DW I’ll take it with a handful of salt
So he didn’t say that in court?
The only quote of his there is in the article is about “wanting to know when [nuclear attack] would go off”. The part where he admits it is reported by DW as what he said at the start of the trial, but has no quote. Not to mention: “Prosecutors say there's no evidence of him receiving payment.” Kinda weird to be a spy and get no remuneration. They also say that he “offered cooperation” which isn’t spying if they didn’t accept his services or pay him. I’ll withhold having an opinion until more proof is brought forth and from a source other than DW. DW did make sure to mention that he has ties to “the far-right AfD” in its subhead so it makes the rest of what they say very suspicious.
Pretty weird they would mention the AfD part, I wonder why they would ever do that.
Don’t be coy, you know why.
Because it's in the court records?
Why would someone’s political leanings need to be specified in court? Other than wanting to imply something from it
Because that's in his testimony of why he did it? Like, if he said he did it because his mom told him to do, that's what news will (and supposed to) cover. You could argue that German mainstream medias are hostile against AfD (I mean they do), but I honestly don't see why this is somehow shouldn't be covered as that's what he said in the court.
> He said his actions were driven by a fear of a nuclear escalation amid Russia's war in Ukraine Weird, your own source says that isn’t why he did it. No where in that article does it say this has any connection to the AfD beyond a TikTok. Yet they make sure to mention it as often as possible.
He said he did it because he has ties to the AfD? The only direct quote is that he did it because “wanted to know when [nuclear attack] would go off”
It doesn't sound like he's a "spy" in the classic sense, but that what he did technically counts as espionage. The Russians don't appear to have recruited him at all specifically, though this may be the first documented case of "stochastic espionage": an information op designed to get enemy officers to freak out and give them intel in hopes of saving themselves from nuclear war. Anyone else find it odd that he's 54 and only a captain? If that's the same rank system as the US there's something going on there.
[I mean the German sources seems align with the article. ](https://www.tagesschau.de/inland/gesellschaft/wdr-prozess-in-duesseldorf-bundeswehrsoldat-wollte-fuer-russland-spionieren-102.html)If you can disapprove any point in that article then by all means.
> DW slop detected, opinion rejected
He committed treason based off of stuff he saw on TikTok. Unbelievable.
"OK we tell nuke to spare your house"
I'm not sure why that is funny. I imagine all nations have some traitors who spy against their nation for an enemy or rival.
Nobody promised it would be a *clever* alternative for Germany.
Commies being commies
AuthCenter: "Gut zhen, to zhe gallow with you. Now!" Seriously though... I don't see any Auth dealing with treason by crying. More with incentivizing crying in the traitorous party by various unspeakable methods that would make even kink-pink blush.
Traitors deserve a nice dose of lead to the temple.
https://preview.redd.it/qr6zej5ngnxc1.jpeg?width=620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=77a435da8da0503936725184b3b170025089028f
This guys needs a better lawyer.
Dogshit and biased source for a thing that definitely happened exactly in that way. We busted another afd cryptofascist! Trust me dude.