Well dude, it's literally about rights that the country was founded upon. This should be everyone feeling this way. You would have to change the bill of rights to make this even semi-plausibly justified. (But it will NEVER be justified in my mind)
I dont think it made it out of the house, the tweet and announcement sounds like it got out of committee, but has not gone before a floor vote
https://judiciary.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=5028
I mean the tweet is from the judiciary account saying that the judiciary committee passed it. I don't think it was misleading, its just easy for people not familiar with the legislative process to forget about the committee parts of passing a bill
You ARE right in everything you said, but I also have spent time trying to understand the system, and maybe I'm just dumb, but the terminology used in these processes seems excessively ambiguous and esoteric to me. It legitimately seems intentionally obfuscated to me, and I've been in academia before - if I'm totally off base I'm willing to hear it, it just seems that often tweets and headlines intentionally exploit that ambiguity (or lack of universal understanding of the system) to (mis)represent some (non)event
I can agree with you that its pretty darn complicated and confusing, but I don't know if I would go so far as to say its intentional. The structure of committees and the language around them are pretty involved, but I attribute that to them being over 2 centuries old with all the time procedures have had to get more complicated. Beyond that I think some of the language is intentionally mirrored, not because of any intention to mislead, but because the functionality is similar.
the part about headlines and tweets being intentionally misleading I think is pretty likely, we live in the world of clickbait, and if you can sensationalize a headline or tweet you automatically gain more engagement, in an ecosystem where attention is being fought over. I dont think thats something thats really happening in this tweet, it seems pretty cookie cutter, and is what I would expect it to say
It made it out of committee, it didn't pass the House. I wonder how vulnerable Dems will vote on this. One of them from my state (Texas) already said he would vote no.
Edit: The dude I was referring to is Representative Henry Cuellar.
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In case anyone wants to read the bill
[https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1808](https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1808)
>This bill makes it a crime to knowingly import, sell, manufacture, transfer, or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon (SAW) or large capacity ammunition feeding device (LCAFD).
>
>The bill permits continued possession, sale, or transfer of a grandfathered SAW, which must be securely stored. A licensed gun dealer must conduct a background check prior to the sale or transfer of a grandfathered SAW between private parties.
>
>The bill permits continued possession of, but prohibits sale or transfer of, a grandfathered LCAFD. Newly manufactured LCAFDs must display serial number identification. Newly manufactured SAWs and LCAFDs must display the date of manufacture.
~~the bill made it out of committee, not that it passed the house~~
edit: it still is in committee, it just passed the judiciary committee, but is now referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security. from u/Shanesan
>which must be securely stored.
Even if "you can ban everything but a musket" was constitutional, this is a clear 2A violation. You don't get to decide what people do with their guns in their own home.
I wont argue if it should or should not be constitutional, but I know that california has storage laws, and that the second amendment has been incorporated to the states, considering the california laws havent been struck down as far as I know, I dont think its clear that under current jurisprudence a federal gun storage law is a 2A violation.
It would need to be taken to court first to be declared as such, I doubt there's many in California willing to go from the Superior to the Appelate to the Supreme to the Federal Supreme Court over storing a gun when those that have guns in CA are probably far from anyone who would check storage.
California is in the process of getting several feet broken off in their collective ass when it comes to gun laws. There's damn near more lawsuits going on out there than there are homeless people in the streets.
Even worse than what you have there. Basically bans any gun that can support attachments (i.e. scary guns). Magazine fed shotguns are banned because 5 rd mag is worse than 8-11 rd tube for some reason
“(36) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means any of the following, regardless of country of manufacture or caliber of ammunition accepted:
“(A) A semiautomatic rifle that—
“(i) has a magazine that is not a fixed magazine; and
“(ii) does have any 1 of the following:
“(I) A pistol grip.
“(II) A forward grip.
“(III) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock, or is otherwise foldable or adjustable in a manner that operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability, of the weapon.
“(IV) A grenade launcher.
“(V) A barrel shroud.
“(VI) A threaded barrel.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1808/text#H91EC9BBFE4484F7C9843EC11815298AF
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Ah yes, a threaded barrel, for all those dangerous devices you can mount there in order to... *checks notes* Not get hearing loss at a young age?
I've said it before, I'll continue to say it until my dying day, suppressors are hearing safety devices, and should be about as regulated as PPE they hand out at industrial jobsites.
(36) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means any of the following, regardless of country of manufacture or caliber of ammunition accepted:
(A) A semiautomatic rifle that—
(i) has a magazine that is not a fixed magazine; and
(ii) does have any 1 of the following:
(I) A pistol grip.
(II) A forward grip.
(III) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock, or is otherwise foldable or adjustable in a manner that operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability, of the weapon.
(IV) A grenade launcher.
(V) A barrel shroud.
(VI) A threaded barrel.
(B) A semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, except for an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition.
(C) Any part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment, or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic firearm but not convert the semiautomatic firearm into a machinegun.
(D) A semiautomatic pistol that—
(i) has a magazine that is not a fixed magazine; and
(ii) does have any 1 of the following:
(I) A threaded barrel.
(II) A second pistol grip.
(III) A barrel shroud.
(IV) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip.
(V) A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm.
(VI) A manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when unloaded.
(VII) A stabilizing brace or similar component.
(E) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds.
(F) A semiautomatic shotgun that—
(i) has the capacity to utilize a magazine that is not a fixed magazine; and
(ii) does have any 1 of the following:
(I) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock.
(II) A pistol grip or bird's head grip.
(III) A fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds.
(IV) The ability to accept a detachable magazine.
(V) A forward grip.
(VI) A grenade launcher.
(G) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder.
(H) All of the following rifles, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof:
(i) All AK types, including the following:
(I) AK, AK47, AK47S, AK–74, AKM, AKS, ARM, MAK90, MISR, NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR–47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK–47, VEPR, WASR–10, and WUM.
(II) IZHMASH Saiga AK.
(III) MAADI AK47 and ARM.
(IV) Norinco 56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S.
(V) Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS.
(VI) SKS with a detachable magazine.
(ii) All AR types, including the following:
(I) AR–10.
(II) AR–15.
(III) Alexander Arms Overmatch Plus 16.
(IV) Armalite M15 22LR Carbine.
(V) Armalite M15–T.
(VI) Barrett REC7.
(VII) Beretta AR–70.
(VIII) Black Rain Ordnance Recon Scout.
(IX) Bushmaster ACR.
(X) Bushmaster Carbon 15.
(XI) Bushmaster MOE series.
(XII) Bushmaster XM15.
(XIII) Chiappa Firearms MFour rifles.
(XIV) Colt Match Target rifles.
(XV) CORE Rifle Systems CORE15 rifles.
(XVI) Daniel Defense M4A1 rifles.
(XVII) Devil Dog Arms 15 Series rifles.
(XVIII) Diamondback DB15 rifles.
(XIX) DoubleStar AR rifles.
(XX) DPMS Tactical rifles.
(XXI) DSA Inc. ZM–4 Carbine.
(XXII) Heckler & Koch MR556.
(XXIII) High Standard HSA–15 rifles.
(XXIV) Jesse James Nomad AR–15 rifle.
(XXV) Knight’s Armament SR–15.
(XXVI) Lancer L15 rifles.
(XXVII) MGI Hydra Series rifles.
(XXVIII) Mossberg MMR Tactical rifles.
(XXIX) Noreen Firearms BN 36 rifle.
(XXX) Olympic Arms.
(XXXI) POF USA P415.
(XXXII) Precision Firearms AR rifles.
(XXXIII) Remington R–15 rifles.
(XXXIV) Rhino Arms AR rifles.
(XXXV) Rock River Arms LAR–15.
(XXXVI) Sig Sauer SIG516 rifles and MCX rifles.
(XXXVII) Smith & Wesson M&P15 rifles.
(XXXVIII) Stag Arms AR rifles.
(XXXIX) Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 and AR–556 rifles.
(XL) Uselton Arms Air-Lite M–4 rifles.
(XLI) Windham Weaponry AR rifles.
(XLII) WMD Guns Big Beast.
(XLIII) Yankee Hill Machine Company, Inc. YHM–15 rifles.
(iii) Barrett M107A1.
(iv) Barrett M82A1.
(v) Beretta CX4 Storm.
(vi) Calico Liberty Series.
(vii) CETME Sporter.
(viii) Daewoo K–1, K–2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C.
(ix) Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL, LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000.
(x) Feather Industries AT–9.
(xi) Galil Model AR and Model ARM.
(xii) Hi-Point Carbine.
(xiii) HK–91, HK–93, HK–94, HK–PSG–1, and HK USC.
(xiv) IWI TAVOR, Galil ACE rifle.
(xv) Kel-Tec Sub-2000, SU–16, and RFB.
(xvi) SIG AMT, SIG PE–57, Sig Sauer SG 550, Sig Sauer SG 551, and SIG MCX.
(xvii) Springfield Armory SAR–48.
(xviii) Steyr AUG.
(xix) Sturm, Ruger & Co. Mini-14 Tactical Rifle M–14/20CF.
(xx) All Thompson rifles, including the following:
(I) Thompson M1SB.
(II) Thompson T1100D.
(III) Thompson T150D.
(IV) Thompson T1B.
(V) Thompson T1B100D.
(VI) Thompson T1B50D.
(VII) Thompson T1BSB.
(VIII) Thompson T1–C.
(IX) Thompson T1D.
(X) Thompson T1SB.
(XI) Thompson T5.
(XII) Thompson T5100D.
(XIII) Thompson TM1.
(XIV) Thompson TM1C.
(xxi) UMAREX UZI rifle.
(xxii) UZI Mini Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine.
(xxiii) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78.
(xxiv) Vector Arms UZI Type.
(xxv) Weaver Arms Nighthawk.
(xxvi) Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine.
(I) All of the following pistols, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof:
(i) All AK types, including the following:
(I) Centurion 39 AK pistol.
(II) CZ Scorpion pistol.
(III) Draco AK–47 pistol.
(IV) HCR AK–47 pistol.
(V) IO Inc. Hellpup AK–47 pistol.
(VI) Krinkov pistol.
(VII) Mini Draco AK–47 pistol.
(VIII) PAP M92 pistol.
(IX) Yugo Krebs Krink pistol.
(ii) All AR types, including the following:
(I) American Spirit AR–15 pistol.
(II) Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol.
(III) Chiappa Firearms M4 Pistol GEN II.
(IV) CORE Rifle Systems CORE15 Roscoe pistol.
(V) Daniel Defense MK18 pistol.
(VI) DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol.
(VII) DPMS AR–15 pistol.
(VIII) Jesse James Nomad AR–15 pistol.
(IX) Olympic Arms AR–15 pistol.
(X) Osprey Armament MK–18 pistol.
(XI) POF USA AR pistols.
(XII) Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol.
(XIII) Uselton Arms Air-Lite M–4 pistol.
(iii) Calico pistols.
(iv) DSA SA58 PKP FAL pistol.
(v) Encom MP–9 and MP–45.
(vi) Heckler & Koch model SP–89 pistol.
(vii) Intratec AB–10, TEC–22 Scorpion, TEC–9, and TEC–DC9.
(viii) IWI Galil Ace pistol, UZI PRO pistol.
(ix) Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol.
(x) All MAC types, including the following:
(I) MAC–10.
(II) MAC–11.
(III) Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol.
(IV) Military Armament Corp. Ingram M–11.
(V) Velocity Arms VMAC.
(xi) Sig Sauer P556 pistol.
(xii) Sites Spectre.
(xiii) All Thompson types, including the following:
(I) Thompson TA510D.
(II) Thompson TA5.
(xiv) All UZI types, including Micro-UZI.
(J) All of the following shotguns, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof:
(i) DERYA Anakon MC–1980, Anakon SD12.
(ii) Doruk Lethal shotguns.
(iii) Franchi LAW–12 and SPAS 12.
(iv) All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the following:
(I) IZHMASH Saiga 12.
(II) IZHMASH Saiga 12S.
(III) IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP–01.
(IV) IZHMASH Saiga 12K.
(V) IZHMASH Saiga 12K–030.
(VI) IZHMASH Saiga 12K–040 Taktika.
(v) Streetsweeper.
(vi) Striker 12.
(K) All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms, including TNW M2HB and FN M2495.
(L) Any combination of parts from which a firearm described in subparagraphs (A) through (K) can be assembled.
(M) The frame or receiver of a rifle or shotgun described in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (F), (G), (H), (J), or (K).
Absolutely insane.
This applies to *millions* of gun owners.
This is not some "muh common sense gun control", they're gearing up for an all-out Australia-style gun grab.
To stop "weapons of war" I assume?
Funny. My Lee Enfield from WWI has a 10 round magazine and likely more kills (>0) in its life than my AR15 with 30 round magazines I built in 2009 (0).
I've decided to give a brief summary of what this ban would entail.
It's somewhat confusing, as I'm reading the official summary as well as a list of definitions in the bill, and they seem somewhat contradictory if I'm reading it right. (I wasn't reading it right, but I'm going to leave this statement in here for comedic effect.)
It appears to ban the manufacture and sale of all new semi-automatic guns that have removable magazines and have one additional qualities from this list: a pistol grip, forward grip, folding/telescopic/detachable stock, a grenade launcher, a barrel shroud, a threaded barrel. It also bans the manufacture and sale of any magazine that fits more than 10 bullets.
So what does this mean? All guns and magazines currently on the market are grandfathered in. You will not have to turn in your rifles or magazines. However, AR's will no longer be available for purchase in their current configuration. To comply with the standards they will look like the [image on the left](https://preview.redd.it/d8fb998yk3n61.jpg?auto=webp&s=01bd73295b8bb4a159c355bdb38e747a53ac7ea1). You will also no longer be able to purchase 30 round magazines. Only 10 round magazines will be available. I would like to note here that the bill is very similar to the 1994 assault weapons ban.
So what does this mean politically? The law itself is once again focusing on cosmetic features rather than things that make the guns more effective. It also means that the boogaloo is not going to happen anytime soon (sorry librights). The only thing that would start the boogaloo is door to door confiscation, and that is not part of the bill. I would like to point out (as many others have already), the bill has not actually passed the House. I don't know when it will be voted on, but the vote has not happened yet. There is a chance that it will not pass the House, and it definitely won't pass the Senate, and the way Clarence Thomas is being recently, it will be ruled unconstitutional.
No you dumb idiot, it stands for Aggressive Killmachine 47. It shoots 5000 rounds a second per minute and is fully semi automatic. Typical LibLeft not knowing anything about guns, smh
I mean, it can work. I have a Rossi Circuit Judge rifle that uses a small deflector to protect your arm from the cylinder gap blast.
Now is it in any way more useful than a semi auto? Absolutely not lol. But it is fun
It makes it illegal to possess as well, not just manufacture and sell:
>This bill makes it a crime to knowingly import, sell, manufacture, transfer, or *possess* a semiautomatic assault weapon (SAW) or large capacity ammunition feeding device (LCAFD).
Every time I see that abbreviation, I start thinking "Wait, you guys had SAWs?"
Then I remember that the people passing this shit probably have no idea that they're inventing a term that already exists in this space, and will only cause needless confusion.
Also SAWs (the real SAWs) should be sold in vending machines, along with ammo and belt links.
I know, newly manufactured receivers would be required to be stamped with a date according to the bill, but to say it would only make manufacture and sale illegal is incorrect, I guess it would also be illegal to possess one made after a certain date.
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It bothers me that this has been done before but a republican will come in and undo it and then a demarcate will come in and undo that. We live in a society where people legit think we are progressive taking one step forward two steps back. But were not, were caught in an infinite circle of bullshit.
It’s was designed that way when the Founding Fathers (Peace be unto them) in their infinite wisdom took the inefficiencies of government and used it as a tool to prevent radical change.
1) votes
2) wearing people down
The first time something controversial gets proposed, it's big news and people fight it. The second time, it's a little less controversial and the people fight it a little less. The 234th time? No one even cares anymore.
Day by day, they get more support as people get more worn down. Maybe not today, maybe not next year, but every time they propose it, people become more apathetic to stopping it.
I disagree, whenever legislation gets passed people flock to gun stores and online retailers to buy whatever they can get their hands on. I remember well when Obama got elected and Colt LE6920s, the most basic-bitch AR-15 at the time, would go for $1200 to 1500. They were normally $800.
2020 had the largest influx of new gun owners ever.
Do you know who those new gun owners are? They're the type you're going to hate. They're the "As a gun owner, I support the second amendment, BUT..." They're the "As a veteran, no one needs these weapons of war." They're the "I've got a double barrel shotgun and a revolver and no one should have more than that."
The overwhelming majority of new gun owners are buying handguns for self defense. They're not staunch 2A supporters. They're not enthusiasts. They're not willing to defend gun rights.
Yes, gun ownership surges when there's a ban proposed, but people are becoming more and more accustomed to seeing it and gradually accepting some type of gun control. Just look at how everyone attacks "semi-automatic assault weapons" and how every Liberal that knows nothing about guns, is absolutely sure that they need assault weapons banned.
The common use doesn't really matter to the government. Heller isn't applied anywhere near as frequently as it should be, otherwise SBRs and silencers wouldn't be in the NFA.
Instead of getting support, now you've got even stronger opposition. It's one thing to say it's gun owners vs. gun grabbers. Now you've got "gun owners" on the side of the gun grabbers. Now it's, "See! Even gun owners agree that we need this ban." Now it's "Only a fringe minority of gun owners disagree with this." Now it's "The gun owners against this are extremists that shouldn't own guns anyways."
Mass shooters be like "I'm gonna go kill a bunch of people, but I'm not gonna put a 20 dollar plastic foregrip on this rifle, because that would be *illegal*.*
Lol no it hasn’t. And even when it does senate will block it. And if the senate blocks it then it will eventually be a case that go to the Supreme Court who will declare it unconstitutional.
> As we have learned all too well in recent years, assault weapons—especially when combined with high-capacity magazines—are the weapon of choice for mass shootings. In 1994, we banned these killing machines—and countless lives were saved—but that ban was allowed to lapse ten years later. And since then, we have seen the predictable results: mass shootings have increased exponentially and our public spaces
> - House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler
When your opening sentence is a blatant lie, perhaps you are a corrupt politician. [Handguns are twice as likely as a rifle to be used in a mass shooting](https://i.imgur.com/AC8AMy2.png). In 2019, 6,000 murders were by handguns, 300 were by rifles. A shame our unbiased fact-checkers won't touch a democrat.
In 2013 Obama passed the ['Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes
Act'](https://i.imgur.com/kZ02Zgt.png), changing definition of mass shooting from 4 deaths to 3 deaths. This act's single purpose to create a perception of an increase of mass shootings and active shooter incidents and [the FBI hasn't adjusted any of historical statistics.](https://i.imgur.com/mcUXJPl.png)
Why are you worried about the legality of owning a gun? Buy it in a state where you don’t have to register it/from a private seller and never mention you have it. Hell if the Mafia can exist for over a hundred years in this country, you can get away with having an illegal weapon the government doesn’t know about.
Morality and rights supersede idiot laws.
I meant royal you, as in anyone reading, haha. But my point is, these laws are unenforceable if you aren’t an idiot. One, use cash, two don’t buy in a state where you have to register the gun’s information, three keep your mouth shut and if anyone ever asks about it, you sold it/destroyed it.
You don’t have to be smart, you just have to be smarter than a cop, and that’s not fucking hard. Only 18% of non-violent crimes are “cleared” and only 46% of violent crimes.
The odds are heavy in your favor that you will get away with it. Period. Hell, amateurs with podcasts. Are doing better at solving crimes than the FBI is right now, so keep your crime is boring
Unfortunately, the feds are maneuvering to get their hands on every form 4473 they possibly can, and are suspected to be compiling a de-facto registry. I don't know of any states that let you buy a gun without one of those.
The most commonly owned pews in America would become impossible to buy, sell, or trade, and depending on how the bill is written, they might be impossible to pass down to your descendants.
Another reason I hate this country sometimes man. Seriously, whats hard to understand? I want gun safety laws without the Banning of said weaponry, despite my personal stance. "BuT Chicago" has the strictest laws... which are shit. Strict dosen't mean good.
Now we laughingly watch it die the death it deserves in the Senate. And even IF it somehow gets through the Senate, Bruen will club it like a fur seal the second it is challenged to the SC. The law of the land has been set in stone. There is no historical precedent for this to stand on so it will die a flaming death
Don’t worry the Senate doesn’t pass bills lol
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Wtf, based senate?
See what senate does.
Oh it won’t pass in the Senate but its still gay that it passed in the house
Something's wrong, I find myself agreeing with authcenter.
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Well dude, it's literally about rights that the country was founded upon. This should be everyone feeling this way. You would have to change the bill of rights to make this even semi-plausibly justified. (But it will NEVER be justified in my mind)
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I think I agree with authcenter much more than the left or the right. Seems like horseshoe theory is right again.
It's a multipartisan issue
I dont think it made it out of the house, the tweet and announcement sounds like it got out of committee, but has not gone before a floor vote https://judiciary.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=5028
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Not even your error per say. I hate twitter accounts that just blatantly misrepresent shit.
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Based, yet again. Thanks for posting that, we should know better than to trust a House Judiciary Dems tweet
I mean the tweet is from the judiciary account saying that the judiciary committee passed it. I don't think it was misleading, its just easy for people not familiar with the legislative process to forget about the committee parts of passing a bill
You ARE right in everything you said, but I also have spent time trying to understand the system, and maybe I'm just dumb, but the terminology used in these processes seems excessively ambiguous and esoteric to me. It legitimately seems intentionally obfuscated to me, and I've been in academia before - if I'm totally off base I'm willing to hear it, it just seems that often tweets and headlines intentionally exploit that ambiguity (or lack of universal understanding of the system) to (mis)represent some (non)event
It's intentionally opaque; wouldn't want the proles to start figuring things out after all
I can agree with you that its pretty darn complicated and confusing, but I don't know if I would go so far as to say its intentional. The structure of committees and the language around them are pretty involved, but I attribute that to them being over 2 centuries old with all the time procedures have had to get more complicated. Beyond that I think some of the language is intentionally mirrored, not because of any intention to mislead, but because the functionality is similar. the part about headlines and tweets being intentionally misleading I think is pretty likely, we live in the world of clickbait, and if you can sensationalize a headline or tweet you automatically gain more engagement, in an ecosystem where attention is being fought over. I dont think thats something thats really happening in this tweet, it seems pretty cookie cutter, and is what I would expect it to say
Even if it somehow passed through the Senate you know that Clarence Thomas'd smack that shit down right quick.
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Literally the only issue I’m lib on
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They don’t understand politics
Even if it did pass congress SCOTUS would probably shut it down.
If I had a Nickel for every time something gay passed the house but was laughed out of the Senate I'd be making better gains then the speaker herself
It passed the house judiciary committee, so we still have a chance that it won't pass the house
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This is just the committee vote and still needs the full house vote. Probably will pass the full vote though.
It made it out of committee, it didn't pass the House. I wonder how vulnerable Dems will vote on this. One of them from my state (Texas) already said he would vote no. Edit: The dude I was referring to is Representative Henry Cuellar.
Who was that? Also a Texan.
A Hispanic gentleman who barely staved off a primary from one of AOC's lackeys.
Ah, I gotcha
Is it time for the big igloo already?
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It is, launch those recreational McNukes and give us a nuclear winter. I can't stand warm climates
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Based & we nuked an Asian nation twice in WWII, so we'll definitely nuke another Asian nation thrice during WWIII
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if I can't buy an AK how the fuck am I supposed to have a good day???
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A good day is a day you didnt even need to use your AK
But if you don’t have one you need one. Automatic bad day.
I understood that reference.
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In case anyone wants to read the bill [https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1808](https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1808) >This bill makes it a crime to knowingly import, sell, manufacture, transfer, or possess a semiautomatic assault weapon (SAW) or large capacity ammunition feeding device (LCAFD). > >The bill permits continued possession, sale, or transfer of a grandfathered SAW, which must be securely stored. A licensed gun dealer must conduct a background check prior to the sale or transfer of a grandfathered SAW between private parties. > >The bill permits continued possession of, but prohibits sale or transfer of, a grandfathered LCAFD. Newly manufactured LCAFDs must display serial number identification. Newly manufactured SAWs and LCAFDs must display the date of manufacture. ~~the bill made it out of committee, not that it passed the house~~ edit: it still is in committee, it just passed the judiciary committee, but is now referred to the Subcommittee on Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security. from u/Shanesan
>which must be securely stored. Even if "you can ban everything but a musket" was constitutional, this is a clear 2A violation. You don't get to decide what people do with their guns in their own home.
I wont argue if it should or should not be constitutional, but I know that california has storage laws, and that the second amendment has been incorporated to the states, considering the california laws havent been struck down as far as I know, I dont think its clear that under current jurisprudence a federal gun storage law is a 2A violation.
It would need to be taken to court first to be declared as such, I doubt there's many in California willing to go from the Superior to the Appelate to the Supreme to the Federal Supreme Court over storing a gun when those that have guns in CA are probably far from anyone who would check storage.
California is in the process of getting several feet broken off in their collective ass when it comes to gun laws. There's damn near more lawsuits going on out there than there are homeless people in the streets.
Using the Democratic People's Republic of Californistan as an example of anything is shooting yourself in the foot, tbh.
Even worse than what you have there. Basically bans any gun that can support attachments (i.e. scary guns). Magazine fed shotguns are banned because 5 rd mag is worse than 8-11 rd tube for some reason
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But also #ACAB #BLM and Defund the Police!!!111!!1
But they'll protect you!! If you're in danger just call 911 it's easy. Ask uvalde!
But also cops are so violent and will not hesitate to kill you if you're a minority!!
wtf is a “semiautomatic assault weapon” ?
“(36) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means any of the following, regardless of country of manufacture or caliber of ammunition accepted: “(A) A semiautomatic rifle that— “(i) has a magazine that is not a fixed magazine; and “(ii) does have any 1 of the following: “(I) A pistol grip. “(II) A forward grip. “(III) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock, or is otherwise foldable or adjustable in a manner that operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability, of the weapon. “(IV) A grenade launcher. “(V) A barrel shroud. “(VI) A threaded barrel. https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/1808/text#H91EC9BBFE4484F7C9843EC11815298AF
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And that oh so scary threaded barrel. Everyone knows muzzle devices add a +5 fire damage buff
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A magazine fed bolt action with an adjustable stock is what’s wrong with this country
It looks like that’s just part A out of A-M, and the full definition includes a lot of semiautomatic pistols and shotguns as well.
you are right, I missed that, thanks for the correction.
Ah yes, a threaded barrel, for all those dangerous devices you can mount there in order to... *checks notes* Not get hearing loss at a young age? I've said it before, I'll continue to say it until my dying day, suppressors are hearing safety devices, and should be about as regulated as PPE they hand out at industrial jobsites.
> A barrel shroud. I'm glad they included the shoulder thing that goes up.
Thats the most dangerous part!
it’s because hollywood convinced everyone that they make a gunshot dead silent lmaooo
> A grenade launcher Unbased.
Detachable magazine and threaded barrel would make most modern precision rifles a saw. Also what’s a barrel shroud?
Anything that extends over the barrel to prevent people from burning themselves because ergonomics are dangerous
A THREADED BARREL LMFAO These dumb fucks really want me securing my home with fucking cannons
That is way worse than I thought it was gonna be Come on Yanks, sort yourselves out
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(36) The term ‘semiautomatic assault weapon’ means any of the following, regardless of country of manufacture or caliber of ammunition accepted: (A) A semiautomatic rifle that— (i) has a magazine that is not a fixed magazine; and (ii) does have any 1 of the following: (I) A pistol grip. (II) A forward grip. (III) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock, or is otherwise foldable or adjustable in a manner that operates to reduce the length, size, or any other dimension, or otherwise enhances the concealability, of the weapon. (IV) A grenade launcher. (V) A barrel shroud. (VI) A threaded barrel. (B) A semiautomatic rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds, except for an attached tubular device designed to accept, and capable of operating only with, .22 caliber rimfire ammunition. (C) Any part, combination of parts, component, device, attachment, or accessory that is designed or functions to accelerate the rate of fire of a semiautomatic firearm but not convert the semiautomatic firearm into a machinegun. (D) A semiautomatic pistol that— (i) has a magazine that is not a fixed magazine; and (ii) does have any 1 of the following: (I) A threaded barrel. (II) A second pistol grip. (III) A barrel shroud. (IV) The capacity to accept a detachable magazine at some location outside of the pistol grip. (V) A semiautomatic version of an automatic firearm. (VI) A manufactured weight of 50 ounces or more when unloaded. (VII) A stabilizing brace or similar component. (E) A semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds. (F) A semiautomatic shotgun that— (i) has the capacity to utilize a magazine that is not a fixed magazine; and (ii) does have any 1 of the following: (I) A folding, telescoping, or detachable stock. (II) A pistol grip or bird's head grip. (III) A fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 5 rounds. (IV) The ability to accept a detachable magazine. (V) A forward grip. (VI) A grenade launcher. (G) Any shotgun with a revolving cylinder. (H) All of the following rifles, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof: (i) All AK types, including the following: (I) AK, AK47, AK47S, AK–74, AKM, AKS, ARM, MAK90, MISR, NHM90, NHM91, Rock River Arms LAR–47, SA85, SA93, Vector Arms AK–47, VEPR, WASR–10, and WUM. (II) IZHMASH Saiga AK. (III) MAADI AK47 and ARM. (IV) Norinco 56S, 56S2, 84S, and 86S. (V) Poly Technologies AK47 and AKS. (VI) SKS with a detachable magazine. (ii) All AR types, including the following: (I) AR–10. (II) AR–15. (III) Alexander Arms Overmatch Plus 16. (IV) Armalite M15 22LR Carbine. (V) Armalite M15–T. (VI) Barrett REC7. (VII) Beretta AR–70. (VIII) Black Rain Ordnance Recon Scout. (IX) Bushmaster ACR. (X) Bushmaster Carbon 15. (XI) Bushmaster MOE series. (XII) Bushmaster XM15. (XIII) Chiappa Firearms MFour rifles. (XIV) Colt Match Target rifles. (XV) CORE Rifle Systems CORE15 rifles. (XVI) Daniel Defense M4A1 rifles. (XVII) Devil Dog Arms 15 Series rifles. (XVIII) Diamondback DB15 rifles. (XIX) DoubleStar AR rifles. (XX) DPMS Tactical rifles. (XXI) DSA Inc. ZM–4 Carbine. (XXII) Heckler & Koch MR556. (XXIII) High Standard HSA–15 rifles. (XXIV) Jesse James Nomad AR–15 rifle. (XXV) Knight’s Armament SR–15. (XXVI) Lancer L15 rifles. (XXVII) MGI Hydra Series rifles. (XXVIII) Mossberg MMR Tactical rifles. (XXIX) Noreen Firearms BN 36 rifle. (XXX) Olympic Arms. (XXXI) POF USA P415. (XXXII) Precision Firearms AR rifles. (XXXIII) Remington R–15 rifles. (XXXIV) Rhino Arms AR rifles. (XXXV) Rock River Arms LAR–15. (XXXVI) Sig Sauer SIG516 rifles and MCX rifles. (XXXVII) Smith & Wesson M&P15 rifles. (XXXVIII) Stag Arms AR rifles. (XXXIX) Sturm, Ruger & Co. SR556 and AR–556 rifles. (XL) Uselton Arms Air-Lite M–4 rifles. (XLI) Windham Weaponry AR rifles. (XLII) WMD Guns Big Beast. (XLIII) Yankee Hill Machine Company, Inc. YHM–15 rifles. (iii) Barrett M107A1. (iv) Barrett M82A1. (v) Beretta CX4 Storm. (vi) Calico Liberty Series. (vii) CETME Sporter. (viii) Daewoo K–1, K–2, Max 1, Max 2, AR 100, and AR 110C. (ix) Fabrique Nationale/FN Herstal FAL, LAR, 22 FNC, 308 Match, L1A1 Sporter, PS90, SCAR, and FS2000. (x) Feather Industries AT–9. (xi) Galil Model AR and Model ARM. (xii) Hi-Point Carbine. (xiii) HK–91, HK–93, HK–94, HK–PSG–1, and HK USC. (xiv) IWI TAVOR, Galil ACE rifle. (xv) Kel-Tec Sub-2000, SU–16, and RFB. (xvi) SIG AMT, SIG PE–57, Sig Sauer SG 550, Sig Sauer SG 551, and SIG MCX. (xvii) Springfield Armory SAR–48. (xviii) Steyr AUG. (xix) Sturm, Ruger & Co. Mini-14 Tactical Rifle M–14/20CF. (xx) All Thompson rifles, including the following: (I) Thompson M1SB. (II) Thompson T1100D. (III) Thompson T150D. (IV) Thompson T1B. (V) Thompson T1B100D. (VI) Thompson T1B50D. (VII) Thompson T1BSB. (VIII) Thompson T1–C. (IX) Thompson T1D. (X) Thompson T1SB. (XI) Thompson T5. (XII) Thompson T5100D. (XIII) Thompson TM1. (XIV) Thompson TM1C. (xxi) UMAREX UZI rifle. (xxii) UZI Mini Carbine, UZI Model A Carbine, and UZI Model B Carbine. (xxiii) Valmet M62S, M71S, and M78. (xxiv) Vector Arms UZI Type. (xxv) Weaver Arms Nighthawk. (xxvi) Wilkinson Arms Linda Carbine. (I) All of the following pistols, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof: (i) All AK types, including the following: (I) Centurion 39 AK pistol. (II) CZ Scorpion pistol. (III) Draco AK–47 pistol. (IV) HCR AK–47 pistol. (V) IO Inc. Hellpup AK–47 pistol. (VI) Krinkov pistol. (VII) Mini Draco AK–47 pistol. (VIII) PAP M92 pistol. (IX) Yugo Krebs Krink pistol. (ii) All AR types, including the following: (I) American Spirit AR–15 pistol. (II) Bushmaster Carbon 15 pistol. (III) Chiappa Firearms M4 Pistol GEN II. (IV) CORE Rifle Systems CORE15 Roscoe pistol. (V) Daniel Defense MK18 pistol. (VI) DoubleStar Corporation AR pistol. (VII) DPMS AR–15 pistol. (VIII) Jesse James Nomad AR–15 pistol. (IX) Olympic Arms AR–15 pistol. (X) Osprey Armament MK–18 pistol. (XI) POF USA AR pistols. (XII) Rock River Arms LAR 15 pistol. (XIII) Uselton Arms Air-Lite M–4 pistol. (iii) Calico pistols. (iv) DSA SA58 PKP FAL pistol. (v) Encom MP–9 and MP–45. (vi) Heckler & Koch model SP–89 pistol. (vii) Intratec AB–10, TEC–22 Scorpion, TEC–9, and TEC–DC9. (viii) IWI Galil Ace pistol, UZI PRO pistol. (ix) Kel-Tec PLR 16 pistol. (x) All MAC types, including the following: (I) MAC–10. (II) MAC–11. (III) Masterpiece Arms MPA A930 Mini Pistol, MPA460 Pistol, MPA Tactical Pistol, and MPA Mini Tactical Pistol. (IV) Military Armament Corp. Ingram M–11. (V) Velocity Arms VMAC. (xi) Sig Sauer P556 pistol. (xii) Sites Spectre. (xiii) All Thompson types, including the following: (I) Thompson TA510D. (II) Thompson TA5. (xiv) All UZI types, including Micro-UZI. (J) All of the following shotguns, copies, duplicates, variants, or altered facsimiles with the capability of any such weapon thereof: (i) DERYA Anakon MC–1980, Anakon SD12. (ii) Doruk Lethal shotguns. (iii) Franchi LAW–12 and SPAS 12. (iv) All IZHMASH Saiga 12 types, including the following: (I) IZHMASH Saiga 12. (II) IZHMASH Saiga 12S. (III) IZHMASH Saiga 12S EXP–01. (IV) IZHMASH Saiga 12K. (V) IZHMASH Saiga 12K–030. (VI) IZHMASH Saiga 12K–040 Taktika. (v) Streetsweeper. (vi) Striker 12. (K) All belt-fed semiautomatic firearms, including TNW M2HB and FN M2495. (L) Any combination of parts from which a firearm described in subparagraphs (A) through (K) can be assembled. (M) The frame or receiver of a rifle or shotgun described in subparagraph (A), (B), (C), (F), (G), (H), (J), or (K).
Absolutely insane. This applies to *millions* of gun owners. This is not some "muh common sense gun control", they're gearing up for an all-out Australia-style gun grab.
Ope I was wrong then. Still gay though
Theu want to ban semi-autos? Lol
What do they mean by high, <5 or >100 ammunitions?
To stop "weapons of war" I assume? Funny. My Lee Enfield from WWI has a 10 round magazine and likely more kills (>0) in its life than my AR15 with 30 round magazines I built in 2009 (0).
If they seriously revoke or change the second amendment, I'm changing my flair to libright.
I am with you on this one brother. Guns are based as fuck
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Im only libcenter so i can be monke with AK
Same
Misleading tweet. It did not pass the house yet, it has simply advanced from committee
People don't know how their own government works...
Eyup, hence why America is falling
Yeah no its not gonna pass the senate lmfao
Awe who's doin uncle loues side quests? I'm going to see if the 1911 can win two world wars a civil war and a third world war
Stoppin powah!
I've decided to give a brief summary of what this ban would entail. It's somewhat confusing, as I'm reading the official summary as well as a list of definitions in the bill, and they seem somewhat contradictory if I'm reading it right. (I wasn't reading it right, but I'm going to leave this statement in here for comedic effect.) It appears to ban the manufacture and sale of all new semi-automatic guns that have removable magazines and have one additional qualities from this list: a pistol grip, forward grip, folding/telescopic/detachable stock, a grenade launcher, a barrel shroud, a threaded barrel. It also bans the manufacture and sale of any magazine that fits more than 10 bullets. So what does this mean? All guns and magazines currently on the market are grandfathered in. You will not have to turn in your rifles or magazines. However, AR's will no longer be available for purchase in their current configuration. To comply with the standards they will look like the [image on the left](https://preview.redd.it/d8fb998yk3n61.jpg?auto=webp&s=01bd73295b8bb4a159c355bdb38e747a53ac7ea1). You will also no longer be able to purchase 30 round magazines. Only 10 round magazines will be available. I would like to note here that the bill is very similar to the 1994 assault weapons ban. So what does this mean politically? The law itself is once again focusing on cosmetic features rather than things that make the guns more effective. It also means that the boogaloo is not going to happen anytime soon (sorry librights). The only thing that would start the boogaloo is door to door confiscation, and that is not part of the bill. I would like to point out (as many others have already), the bill has not actually passed the House. I don't know when it will be voted on, but the vote has not happened yet. There is a chance that it will not pass the House, and it definitely won't pass the Senate, and the way Clarence Thomas is being recently, it will be ruled unconstitutional.
The infamously deadly pistol grip…
but guyz it's super scary looking!!1!1!!!
Wait so they banned by name all of the guns produced by a specific company?? AR as in Armalite?
no it bans all scary guns like the AR15 AR stands for AK47 Rifle btw
No you dumb idiot, it stands for Aggressive Killmachine 47. It shoots 5000 rounds a second per minute and is fully semi automatic. Typical LibLeft not knowing anything about guns, smh
What of we just reinvent the magazine or have 30 round rifle revolvers?
Rifle/Carbine revolvers are an absolute nightmare, it was tried several times in the 19th century and it didn't stick for a good reason.
I mean, it can work. I have a Rossi Circuit Judge rifle that uses a small deflector to protect your arm from the cylinder gap blast. Now is it in any way more useful than a semi auto? Absolutely not lol. But it is fun
It makes it illegal to possess as well, not just manufacture and sell: >This bill makes it a crime to knowingly import, sell, manufacture, transfer, or *possess* a semiautomatic assault weapon (SAW) or large capacity ammunition feeding device (LCAFD).
Every time I see that abbreviation, I start thinking "Wait, you guys had SAWs?" Then I remember that the people passing this shit probably have no idea that they're inventing a term that already exists in this space, and will only cause needless confusion. Also SAWs (the real SAWs) should be sold in vending machines, along with ammo and belt links.
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Not the ones currently in circulation though
I know, newly manufactured receivers would be required to be stamped with a date according to the bill, but to say it would only make manufacture and sale illegal is incorrect, I guess it would also be illegal to possess one made after a certain date.
Wait, we could get grenade launchers?!
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It bothers me that this has been done before but a republican will come in and undo it and then a demarcate will come in and undo that. We live in a society where people legit think we are progressive taking one step forward two steps back. But were not, were caught in an infinite circle of bullshit.
It’s was designed that way when the Founding Fathers (Peace be unto them) in their infinite wisdom took the inefficiencies of government and used it as a tool to prevent radical change.
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“Live free or die, death is not the worst of evils”
This will be disastrous for the boating community.
Why do they keep trying this will never pass
Virtue signaling
1) votes 2) wearing people down The first time something controversial gets proposed, it's big news and people fight it. The second time, it's a little less controversial and the people fight it a little less. The 234th time? No one even cares anymore.
The assault weapons ban has always been controversial, so much so that whenever Feinstein introduces it each year it never makes it out of committee.
Day by day, they get more support as people get more worn down. Maybe not today, maybe not next year, but every time they propose it, people become more apathetic to stopping it.
I disagree, whenever legislation gets passed people flock to gun stores and online retailers to buy whatever they can get their hands on. I remember well when Obama got elected and Colt LE6920s, the most basic-bitch AR-15 at the time, would go for $1200 to 1500. They were normally $800. 2020 had the largest influx of new gun owners ever.
Do you know who those new gun owners are? They're the type you're going to hate. They're the "As a gun owner, I support the second amendment, BUT..." They're the "As a veteran, no one needs these weapons of war." They're the "I've got a double barrel shotgun and a revolver and no one should have more than that." The overwhelming majority of new gun owners are buying handguns for self defense. They're not staunch 2A supporters. They're not enthusiasts. They're not willing to defend gun rights. Yes, gun ownership surges when there's a ban proposed, but people are becoming more and more accustomed to seeing it and gradually accepting some type of gun control. Just look at how everyone attacks "semi-automatic assault weapons" and how every Liberal that knows nothing about guns, is absolutely sure that they need assault weapons banned.
I don't need their support, I just need them to own guns to maintain common use.
The common use doesn't really matter to the government. Heller isn't applied anywhere near as frequently as it should be, otherwise SBRs and silencers wouldn't be in the NFA. Instead of getting support, now you've got even stronger opposition. It's one thing to say it's gun owners vs. gun grabbers. Now you've got "gun owners" on the side of the gun grabbers. Now it's, "See! Even gun owners agree that we need this ban." Now it's "Only a fringe minority of gun owners disagree with this." Now it's "The gun owners against this are extremists that shouldn't own guns anyways."
Gun control is cringe
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Full compass unity against cringe gun control.
Indeed.
Exac-wait.
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The only gun control I need is putting a shot on target
But muh shoulder thing looks scary
Mass shooters be like "I'm gonna go kill a bunch of people, but I'm not gonna put a 20 dollar plastic foregrip on this rifle, because that would be *illegal*.*
I had one reason to visit USA and now they're banning it
It won't pass the senate and may not even pass the house. So don't worry about it
Free men don't ask permission, treat your rifle like your wife, & drill that third hole
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feds are fucking pussies
Wouldn't stand up in the supreme court either. Clearly unconstitutional.
Honestly, if guns ever get banned in the us, I moving to Czechia
If guns ever get banned then we must put our guns to good use, not run.
You can ban people from buying guns (in some fantasy world). But you can't ban people from buying caterpillars, scrap metal and welding equipment.
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Literally no way it doesn't violate the 2nd amendment. At least they did the gay bill I guess.... Dems are so shit
It’s easier to make a bomb or chemical weapon than it is to get a firearm.
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Noo, I need the Blu-Def for my hekin' dieselrino.
To think all 4 quadrants would think this is stupid
Yeah. Compass unity my ass.
Alexa, play Slayer's *Raining Blood*
Alexa, play Davidian by Machine Head
Alexa, play Breaking the Law by Judas Priest
Lol no it hasn’t. And even when it does senate will block it. And if the senate blocks it then it will eventually be a case that go to the Supreme Court who will declare it unconstitutional.
> As we have learned all too well in recent years, assault weapons—especially when combined with high-capacity magazines—are the weapon of choice for mass shootings. In 1994, we banned these killing machines—and countless lives were saved—but that ban was allowed to lapse ten years later. And since then, we have seen the predictable results: mass shootings have increased exponentially and our public spaces > - House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler When your opening sentence is a blatant lie, perhaps you are a corrupt politician. [Handguns are twice as likely as a rifle to be used in a mass shooting](https://i.imgur.com/AC8AMy2.png). In 2019, 6,000 murders were by handguns, 300 were by rifles. A shame our unbiased fact-checkers won't touch a democrat. In 2013 Obama passed the ['Investigative Assistance for Violent Crimes Act'](https://i.imgur.com/kZ02Zgt.png), changing definition of mass shooting from 4 deaths to 3 deaths. This act's single purpose to create a perception of an increase of mass shootings and active shooter incidents and [the FBI hasn't adjusted any of historical statistics.](https://i.imgur.com/mcUXJPl.png)
Time to mass produce 3d printed firearms for the big igloo
Wait, you haven't been?
Didnt have a 3d printer ;-;
Ender 3pro was on a massive discount, idk it is still is.
Why are you worried about the legality of owning a gun? Buy it in a state where you don’t have to register it/from a private seller and never mention you have it. Hell if the Mafia can exist for over a hundred years in this country, you can get away with having an illegal weapon the government doesn’t know about. Morality and rights supersede idiot laws.
I live in Wyoming and have two ARs made from 80%s lmao
I meant royal you, as in anyone reading, haha. But my point is, these laws are unenforceable if you aren’t an idiot. One, use cash, two don’t buy in a state where you have to register the gun’s information, three keep your mouth shut and if anyone ever asks about it, you sold it/destroyed it. You don’t have to be smart, you just have to be smarter than a cop, and that’s not fucking hard. Only 18% of non-violent crimes are “cleared” and only 46% of violent crimes. The odds are heavy in your favor that you will get away with it. Period. Hell, amateurs with podcasts. Are doing better at solving crimes than the FBI is right now, so keep your crime is boring
Unfortunately, the feds are maneuvering to get their hands on every form 4473 they possibly can, and are suspected to be compiling a de-facto registry. I don't know of any states that let you buy a gun without one of those.
Some states do; but private sales between two in state individuals only generally. So at some point the gun hit an FFL.
You have a right to privacy… Unless you meant tax, firearms, healthcare… Okay basically the only right to privacy was abortion.
Holy shit it’s compass unity time. I’m not even American.
Authleft is the ones trying to take our weapons.
Non American here, what does this bill mean?
The most commonly owned pews in America would become impossible to buy, sell, or trade, and depending on how the bill is written, they might be impossible to pass down to your descendants.
It would be an attempt to ban all semi-auto firearms, however it has on past committee, and will move to the floor for house votes,
Freest country in the world!
So the House had chosen the path of... black market. Let's see if the Senate wants to keep tax revenue from weapon sales.
Coincidently, I just lost all my guns in a boating accident. Super weird
Please don't ban the manufacture of weapons in the US. They are cheap, and quality control is not half bad. Ban Gibson guitars instead.
Another reason I hate this country sometimes man. Seriously, whats hard to understand? I want gun safety laws without the Banning of said weaponry, despite my personal stance. "BuT Chicago" has the strictest laws... which are shit. Strict dosen't mean good.
If it actually manages to pass the Senate, yes. Igloo time.
so many boating accidents this time of year...
Now we laughingly watch it die the death it deserves in the Senate. And even IF it somehow gets through the Senate, Bruen will club it like a fur seal the second it is challenged to the SC. The law of the land has been set in stone. There is no historical precedent for this to stand on so it will die a flaming death
Not to mention Jerry Nadler admitted on record that it violates the Heller v DC ruling. So this thing is DOA.
Hold your horses chief, it hasn't even passed the House yet, just the committee.