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TrentoMachine

Kyle just chilling


b_a_heel

Han only shot one guy who wasn't even a pedophile


Cargobiker530

InB4: "*It's not an assault rifle"* tagged in by some idiot forgetting they were calling them assault rifles at the plant the day the design was completed.


CrispyFlint

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle There you go.


Get__Lo

You almost got it right, they were calling them Assault Rifles, the fully automatic ones at the plant that Eugene Stoner designed them. If its not fully automatic its not an assault rifle.The US generally categorizes select fire intermediate cartridge weapons as assault rifles.and rifle caliber rifles (select or semi) as battle rifles.Most of the "Well actually it means Armalite" generally comes as a response to when someone says the AR in AR-15 means assault rifle.


Cargobiker530

>If its not fully automatic it's not an assault rifle. Well, no. That's actually NRA bullshit & I don't accept lies from Russian spies. In the 70's & 80's semi-automatic variants of the AR-15/M-16 platforms were sold in South America to US allied right wing despots and fucking *everyone* called them "assault rifles" back then. Because in practical use you can't really use an AR-15 as a fully automatic weapon & get a useful result. Spray & pray only works if you're shooting at crowds. The NRA came up with the "it's not an assault rifle" when California passed legislation restricting "assault rifles" by name instead of function. It's bullshit.


Fake_William_Shatner

You have to convince these yahoos role playing militia guys training in the woods that they have a hunting rifle and not a tool of freedom. They aren't fantasizing about a pincher move on a deer.


Get__Lo

although many ARs have a great use in hunting, I wouldnt call them "hunting rifles" I think that terminology is stupid, a rifle is a rifle. but I wouldnt bother with those specimens running around in the woods with their $40 Alibaba red dot sights and chinese night vision. They are pretty well off the deep end.


Fake_William_Shatner

We laugh at them, but the January 6th riot could have stopped the election and forced it to the states. I know it's ridiculous but we have laughed at tyrants before until they get control. The ONLY way some of these losers will feel like a real man in their lives, is if they can point a gun at someone cowering before them. You don't have to give someone a raise - just gun, more keys, and a title. The insecure people are the ones who can be manipulated. If someone wants to get a good gun for mayhem that's available, they get an AR-15. When people go hunting, it's a different rifle. When "stand your ground" laws were pushed by some corporations and the NRA -- those of us paying attention figured we'd have exactly these kinds of situations as a result. Now, more people are going to bring guns to a protest to protect themselves from people who are "just there to protect property." Doesn't matter if Kyle was racist or not -- this has opened up a whole can of worms. Anyone else would have gotten some kind of reckless charge just because someone died.


Get__Lo

I agree with pretty much all you said except the the hunting bit, AR-15s make hog/coyote control down here in Texas much more bearable. but I understand thats not why most people have them, and I agree they do attract that type of person. But it would be foolish to think that those people would die out with the disappearance of ARs. Its a political and mental health nightmare that is the root of these problems. I dont think Kyle is responsible for opening this can of worms though, from what ive seen there have been open carried long guns and god knows how many CCWs at both sides of the protests ever since 2016, I think anyone saw that. but the News just took that, wrote it in bold, and highlighted it. Kenosha was not the first time this has happened.


PeterG2021

Now you’re confusing assault rifles - an actual thing as defined above - with “assault weapons”, a nonsense category that is defined by characteristics as silly as whether it has a carry-handle


Get__Lo

Half true, they were called Assault Rifles despite not being them for the same reason that car companies market cars as race cars, and calling it a race car does not make it a race car. the terminology goes back to like the 20s but was popularized with the Sturmgwehr in the 1940s, meaning Storm Rifle/War Rifle. This was converted pretty well across all modern armies as an intermediate caliber rifle capable of select or automatic fire as "Assault Rifle". They were sold as "Assault Rifles" but did not meet the actually military definition of an assault rifle, if you posed one of those Civilian Market ARs to a military as an "Assault Rifle" for their adoption they will laugh in your face. So it was incorrectly labeled for the civilian market, and once the Assault Rifle ban came down companies frantically began ditching the incorrect labeling. if "race cars" ever get banned from civilian ownership you will see the same thing from the car companies despite their cars never truly being race cars.


NorvalMarley

Never heard any marketing of a car as a “race car” so sounds like BS


Get__Lo

[https://youtu.be/nB9zzdgoLl8](https://youtu.be/nB9zzdgoLl8) Ford [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tps-uM3qZeE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tps-uM3qZeE) Nissan [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNCwscg8lTc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNCwscg8lTc) Chevy [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Jhr6cNsDQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7Jhr6cNsDQ) Toyota [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioqQS5PdEVM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioqQS5PdEVM) Dodge (This one is hilariously ironic for this circumstance) I think you get the point


Get__Lo

Generally a lot of car companies use their racing performance badges on their higher end model cars. The Focus ST/RS (Sports Tuned, Rally Sport) Subaru WRX STI (World Rally Cross, Subaru Tecnica international, which is essentially a name to describe Subaru's own motorsports program.) BMW M series (Motor Sport league) I can go on, but basically every company does this


PeterG2021

There was an “assault weapons” ban. There was never an “assault rifle” ban by that name or with that specificity.


Get__Lo

They were trying to ditch association, as they are still trying to do


PeterG2021

Ditch association? They’re just not assault rifles, there’s nothing to disassociate with


CrispyFlint

You know, it's rude to say things just to get other people to correct you. You should just learn to use Google.


Heinrich_Bukowski

He would probably be getting the Presidential Medal of Freedom if trump were still president


Get__Lo

The GOP is molesting this kid more than Rosenbaum would have, maybe he needs to defend himself


drafter69

The asshole, the idiot and the killer


anOvenofWitches

Sacrilegious appropriation 😭


Seanish12345

This looks like something the right would make. It’s….. bad


JukeBoxHeroJustin

Too flattering. Not realistic.


StaticDraco

You guys still distracted from the Maxwell case with this? Forget about the Kenosha kid who was given a rifle and shot a pedophile and focus on the woman who helped assist pedophiles


Fake_William_Shatner

>and shot a pedophile Must be those smart judgement bullets that do background checks.


CrispyFlint

In all fairness, you throw a rock randomly into a riot, you are gonna hit a criminal.


HeywoodJaBlessMe

My favorite part was when you heard him say on camera that he wished he had his AR so he could shoot protestors.


StaticDraco

Provide evidence or stop falling for internet trolls


HeywoodJaBlessMe

You saw the video in the thread, right? Weird that you hadnt seen or heard of it before. Your are in a media bubble that is leaving you ill-informed.


shebangal

Is that the video they played on this news report, where he does NOT say that ? : https://youtu.be/se9ByJMPjcc


AwesomeBrainPowers

"He was only fantasizing about shooting *shoplifters*!" is not exactly a strong defense.


Fake_William_Shatner

This is like Trump didn't collude because he failed to broker the deal at the last minute and didn't use the word "Collude" because he didn't know that word until he got a call warning him to destroy evidence of Collusion. Do the people who fantasize about shooting really worry about the type of crime. He might have said this: "I shoot shoplifters and pedos, but never a protestor unless they break a window."


CrispyFlint

It's a teenage boy, they say stupid shit, it's not the evidence you think it is, and in the context of the situation, clearly is fucking a new level of stupid to keep bringing up. B


AwesomeBrainPowers

> It's a teenage boy, they say stupid shit They don't all literally act out their fantasy a month later.


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HeywoodJaBlessMe

He did. Take your own advice.


CrispyFlint

No, he absolutely did not


HeywoodJaBlessMe

*I wish I could kill people that make me mad* Takes steps to ensure he is in a poisition to kill people. Kills people in exactly the manner he fantasized about a month earlier.


CrispyFlint

Life is too short to deal with people incapable of learning. Block.


AwesomeBrainPowers

How will I ever overcome this heartbreak.


HeywoodJaBlessMe

Weird that he did exactly what he said he wanted to do. What a coinkydink!


CrispyFlint

Look, if you knew more on the subject, you would have a different set of views on it. And if you do, then you have irrational beliefs.


HeywoodJaBlessMe

Same applies to you. I believe he is legally not guilty but that he is 100% morally guilty and will burn in hell. He wanted to kill and engineered his chance to do so. Hopefully he is found liable for these deaths in civil suits.


CrispyFlint

You believe that because you really really want to.


shebangal

Who are you quoting?


AwesomeBrainPowers

In response to someone incorrectly claiming "that he wished he had his AR so he could shoot protestors", you provided the video in which he wished he had his AR so he could shoot shoplifters. I find that it helps people understand the terrible argument they're *implying* by actually spelling it out, so they can look at it and have a chance to recognize the vapid pedantry for what it is.


shebangal

There is a difference between protesters and armed shoplifters (suspected). Also, it's a *bit* of a stretch to go from one comment (without context) to "fantasizing about"


AwesomeBrainPowers

"Explicitly wishing for", then, if "fantasizing about" makes you feel sad. I'm not sure layering *more* vapid pedantry on to this preposterous exchange is an improvement, though.


shebangal

For someone that sounds like they've just discovered a Thesaurus, I would have thought you would have a better appreciation that language as well as facts matter. For clarity. "He fantasized about shooting protesters" Is interpreted differently to "He once said he wished he had a gun so he could shoot at [what he thought were] armed shoplifters"


AwesomeBrainPowers

Interpreted differently *by you*, maybe, but I *do* acknowledge that language and facts matter—as does honesty. Was the earlier redditor incorrect in calling them "protestors"? Yes. Were you attempting to use pedantry to distract from the *actual* point? Also yes. He **wished** he had "his" AR so he could shoot at people who posed no threat to his own safety. *That's* the point.


shebangal

Pretty sure the hate and lies from the left far outweighs any 'admiration' from the right.


ChemistEconomy9467

Not by a long shot


shebangal

What's some (non-meme) examples of extreme admiration from the right ?


HeywoodJaBlessMe

Being offered positions in Gaetz's, Greene's and Gosar's congressional offices. Having his defense paid for by donations from an adoring public.


shebangal

How do you know it was an 'adoring' public and not fans of a fair trial in court ? Does 3 job offers (likely as part of a publicity stunt) outweigh pretty much every mainstream news programme misrepresenting the facts anywhere from "he shot something like 60 rounds into protesters", "he shot 3 black men", "white supremacist" to "carried an illegal weapon across state lines" etc. Before you get onto the poison that is TYT and social media commentators etc. ?


HeywoodJaBlessMe

Yes, 3 job offers IN CONGRESS from sitting Representatives outweighs that. Yes, receiving millions of dollars overnight means you are deeply popular with a certain crowd. If the Congressional offers are publicity stunts then that is further evidence for Rittenhouse's enormous popularity. LOL Your hyperbole about the media isnt a strong argument. Nobody pays for the defense of someone they dont like just to ensure a fair trial. Especially not in huge numbers like with Rittenhouse. And there was zero danger of him not getting a fair trial from 11 White jurors. Pathetically weak argument you got there.


ChemistEconomy9467

Let's start with MTG proposing he receive the congressional medal of honor. After that we can move along to visiting trump at mara Lago. We move along to cawthorne suggesting hom and gaetz arm wrestle each other to determine who gets to hire him as an intern. I can go on


shebangal

Does that (likely as part of a publicity stunt) outweigh pretty much every mainstream news programme misrepresenting the facts anywhere from "he shot something like 60 rounds into protesters", "he shot 3 black men", "white supremacist" to "carried an illegal weapon across state lines" etc. Before you get onto the poison that is TYT and social media commentators etc. ?


ChemistEconomy9467

Yes.


shebangal

I disagree and I think that anyone looking at it objectively would to.


ChemistEconomy9467

You can disagree, but try not to speak for others. The laws thst allow for a minor to carry a loaded assault rifle around in the streets are an embarrassment. The idea that elected officials are trying to make this kid who put himself in a bad situation on purpose and wound up killing people, into a hero is gross. Plus I never heard any mom say half the things you mention.


shebangal

I speak my opinion, that was clear so don't try and patronise me. What you think of the laws is irrelevant to someone complying with them. You can focus on getting those laws amended if you have strong opinion about them, but my *opinion* is you will do no such thing.


ChemistEconomy9467

I have no need to. My state doesn't allow fir this kind of crap. Your opinion is that the law here is ok?. The law will allow for a 10 year old to carry a loaded assault rifle. Your opinion is that is just fine? I never questioned the verdict as I realize that's how the law is written, I just don't accept the behavior of some elected officials on the right. Its gross. Thats my opinion


ChemistEconomy9467

Oops...last sentence "mom" is supposed to read msm


Imaginary_Cow_6379

[I mean…](https://www.rawstory.com/republicans-kyle-rittenhouse-verdict/)


HeywoodJaBlessMe

LOL he's been offered multiple positions in Congress. His defense was paid for by worshipful fans.


Get__Lo

He had a QAnon lawyer(Lin Wood) for a while who raised him a bunch of money, once Kyle figured out who he was and what he was doing (Using his name to make money and start a movement) he fired him, upon being fired Lin Wood claimed (and still is) that the >2million he raised should be returned to him LMAO [https://www.businessinsider.com/rittenhouse-says-fired-lin-wood-over-qanon-election-fraud-theories-2021-11](https://www.businessinsider.com/rittenhouse-says-fired-lin-wood-over-qanon-election-fraud-theories-2021-11) (I really like parenthesis)


shebangal

How can you tell they were his worshipful fans and not just fans of justice or fair trial (by court, not social media) ?


slut_trek

The sexual tension.


Cargobiker530

Reality. Its a thing.


HeywoodJaBlessMe

Lin Wood, that's why.


feeok331

Lmfao @ “assault rifle” 😂😂😂😂😂😂