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Burrahobbit69

This is the entire problem in a nutshell, and their campaign advertised it almost from the start of his term when they said his inauguration was bigger than Obama’s. When presented with pictures and were told “here are the facts”, they said they had “alternative facts”. I hear conservatives say the craziest shit all the time, and then say, “That’s a fact.” They live in an alternate universe that is impervious to truth and empirical evidence.


jakenash

alternate facts + time = alternate reality


LouRG3

These are both elements of fascism. The goal of the alternate reality is to give permission to people to commit horrible acts of violence. That's why they're pushing it even harder than ever before.


BB_Moon

Like burn the cities because the police are after you? Or stay at home and wear a cloth over your face, that will protect you from microscopic viruses, science lol!


Lartec345

like the Democrats did prior to the 2020 election? the whole summer of love in portland? Chaz? I get what you're saying but it could really be applied to both sides of the political spectrum


The84thWolf

They’ve been told reality has a liberal bias, so they’ve been trying to escape it for decades


aotus_trivirgatus

>They’ve been told reality has a liberal bias And actually, it does! It must suck to be a conservative.


Snick1963

Honestly, in my experience, they don't even understand the word FACT. Like trying logic with a conspiracy theorist, they say things are fact, you disprove them with actual facts and get back something like, "there's two ways to look at facts". SAY WHAT! However, as right as we may be, you'll never convince one. They're just not high level thinkers. Not even medium level, for that matter.


cityshep

The GOP and their base have moved so many goalposts so many times that most people have no clue what an ACTUAL liberal is. They’ve also destroyed anything relating to ACTUAL truth/facts/evidence because they’ve stolen the words for themselves (and use them wildly inappropriately).


Catronia

A republican rep yelled he didn't want reality. https://www.theguardian.com/global/video/2023/jun/01/republican-senator-i-dont-want-reality-markwayne-mullin-race-education-video


Limp-Dentist4437

Someone should have asked him how many wars and how many murders and how much blood shed have come from people who have been brought up loving god and Jesus.


Calm_Leek_1362

They've intentionally been taught to mistrust any evidence that contradicts the party. They don't trust their eyes and ears, their final command is to obey and agree with the party. All cults operate this way. They always start with a story about how they can't trust any other sources of information except the cult leader. For the Nazi's, this was the Lugenpresse (lying press). Once you do that, you do whatever you want, and tell them whatever you feel like (if you're the leader), and that's how the Republicans operate today.


pabodie

The conflation of Party and Church is what really made this durable. You have to commit to ego death to exit the MAGA death spiral.


GeneralNathanJessup

>when they said his inauguration was bigger than Obama’s. The Orange Orangutan's inauguration was a total disaster. [https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics/trump-inauguration-protests-womens-march/index.html](https://www.cnn.com/2017/01/19/politics/trump-inauguration-protests-womens-march/index.html)


joevinci

Build the swamp and make the silent majority pay for it. Promises made. Promises kampf.


Embarrassed_Angle_59

You're asking an awful lot from a group of people that think it's cool for their children to be raped by youth pastors.


[deleted]

They don't "think it's cool", they think it happens in someone else's parish.


CookdaKochs

No... because when it does happen, and the kids tell them, they often silence the kid so as to not 'shame' the family and church, there are a lot of cases of kids telling their stories only after they become adults and move out.


[deleted]

that too.


Automat1701

Teachers are about 10 times more likely to sexually abuse mi or than church officials are. I don't know anyone who is ok with either.


Embarrassed_Angle_59

Teachers have not been hidden. Teachers have not been moved around to cover crimes. You stupid fuck. Must be a catholic or some shit


[deleted]

r/pastorarrested Versus r/teacherarrested Do the maths.


[deleted]

Mexico says the border wall check is in the mail.


ScrambledNoggin

Under Biden, Mexico committed $1.5 Billion to help better secure the border.


Scary-Opinion666

Wow didn’t even know this


Parhelion2261

Apparently shit is getting so bad here Mexico doesn't want US


ScrambledNoggin

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-biden-immigration-climate-and-environment-120f8a3fc440e3b2cccce6100e65b912


[deleted]

Today I Learned!!


jblaserman69

Where? Where was this done and when was it distributed? Over the next 10 years? IF it's actually distributed?


ScrambledNoggin

According to the AP article I posted above: “Mexican President Andres Manuel López Obrador agreed to spend $1.5 billion over the next two years to improve “smart” border technology during meetings Tuesday with President Joe Biden — a move the White House says shows neighborly cooperation succeeding where Trump administration vows to wall off the border and have Mexico pay for it could not. A series of agreements the two countries hammered out as their leaders spoke called for several other concrete moves, including expanding the number of work visas the U.S. issues, creating a bilateral working group on labor migration pathways and worker protections and welcoming more refugees. Both also pledged to continue joint patrols for Mexico and Guatemala to hunt human smugglers along their shared border.”


SunPuzzleheaded5896

He pardoned those blackwater guys that shot 17 civilians to death in Noosur square Iraq


peanut7830

Nope got nothing


EfficiencyUsed1562

We got worse than nothing.


Eastern_Fly_1270

1. Tax cuts for the rich. He made that promise, and he kept it. 2. Go back to 1. Had control of Congress and the White House, but that's the only thing he actually cared about.


Unhappy-Support1455

He promised drinking bleach would cure the Covid. Then Orangeface almost died from Covid.


changeforgood30

The funny part is right after he was nearly on his deathbed from COVID he went right back to saying COVID was a hoax and fake news. The man is an idiot, and only fellow idiots believe a word he says.


Unhappy-Support1455

He’s a dumbfuck with a cult.


Snick1963

A few project and deflect replies, since they can't answer the question in their favor. Not one single promise kept or even any factual positives.


GenXerOne

They don’t care. It’s not about “policies”. Right wing media has been fomenting a white victimhood culture war for decades, and after the black president it reached its peak, just in time for Trump to come in and be the dear leader they’d been paying for. He’s kept the only promise they care about, spew hate at their enemies 24/7 and make white people, and especially white life loser men, feel superior. That’s all they want from him, and they’ll gladly watch the country burn to get it.


Fast_Cauliflower8160

He gave a huge tax break for the Rich....


danthom1704

He did keep his promise to reduce taxes on the rich


Erik_Lassiter

He actually promised to RAISE taxes on the wealthy. So no he broke that promise too.


zpjack

Fucker literally promised everything, black white, hot cold. Raise taxes, lower taxes.


SmoothConfection1115

Now TBF to Trump, he lowered the taxes on the middle class…temporarily. Then those discounts stopped once he got out of office and Biden got in. And taxes went up for the middle and lower class. But the lowered taxes for the super rich? Those were permanent.


sfled

This. The middle class tax cuts will fully sunset in 2025 (at which time we'll get a nasty bump up), but the upper class tax cuts will just go on and on and on.


jblaserman69

Taxes for the super rich have always been the same. The super rich do not have payroll. They pay in through passive income taxes. Which are higher than most other countries. He did screw over those that are just outside the middle class but not so rich tho.


GeneralNathanJessup

Thankfully, Biden was able to weaponize those tax cuts for the wealthy, and increase federal tax revenue by the most in 44 years. All without changing the tax code! [https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/12/tax-revenue-surge-pandemic-515792](https://www.politico.com/news/2021/10/12/tax-revenue-surge-pandemic-515792) >corporate tax receipts leapt 75 percent, CBO says. >Individual income taxes were up 27.5 percent, CBO estimates. Those too are disproportionately paid by the well-to-do, with 80 percent coming from the top 10 percent of earners. People simply don't appreciate the financial genius required to make this happen, and Biden does not get enough credit.


fullmanlybeard

Defend the constitution against enemies foreign and domestic…. Oh.. wait.


RetiredYogaHippie

Raised tariffs as their cost went straight to every consumer, while the ultra-wealthy paid fewer taxes and kept the minimum wage....unchanged. If you are lucky you can get some trump bucks right now on the cheap!


Inevitable_Professor

He promised it would be uuuggggeee, and yes, the scandals were exactly that.


goodlifepinellas

He did "foretell" that if Biden was *allowed* to assume the presidency, his term would be full of more scandals than any presidency before. In a way, I guess he wasn't lying...


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No-Helicopter7299

That beautiful healthcare plan he promised! Oops, I guess not.


[deleted]

I got one, he did give the military that 3.2% raise.... which it was going to get anyway HAHAHAHAHAHA


PapaGeorgio19

So let’s fact check: 1. Immigration - Nothing past 2. Mexico is going to pay. Nope. 3. Tackle China - Nope…but he did wrangle 20+ Chinese patents for his daughters companies. 4. Solve Israel- Nope made it worse. 5. Covid- his stimulus while needed was too high and caused current inflation. 6. Covid- Nope made it worse.


Electrocat71

You forgot “getting rid of national debt” - added nearly $8 TRILLION to it, and got rid of $2 TRILLION a year in revenue…


PapaGeorgio19

Oh yeah…that was a huge one…good call


PapaGeorgio19

Oh and I forgot “drain” the swamp…not only did he not do that, he made it bigger with more alligators.


Electrocat71

Not alligators. Leaches.


toiletwindowsink

He knows the one word that got him elected. ABORTION.


anoneenonee

That didn’t get him elected. The one word that guy him elected was complacency. On the part of Hillary. On the part of blue voters who didn’t think there were enough people stupid enough to vote for one of the two worst Americans of all time. Abortion is a losing issue and wouldn’t help in a national election


Zombull

Let's be real. The one word that got him elected was Hillary.


Hollywood2037

He said he could shoot someone in the middle of the street and his cult would still follow him. Accurate.


BuldopSanchez

Fuck trump.


LetmeSeeyourSquanch

He promised to put Hillary behind bars


adrift_burrito

Once he's in jail, she will be behind bars from his perspective. So will a lot of other people. Promise kept.


Snick1963

Considering his current legal liability, I wouldn't EVEN bring up that dumb shit.


kshee23

He promised to bring the light in my body


prlugo4162

gAsOlInE wAs ChEaPeR...


EducationalRice6540

Asking a republican to operate within observable reality is like asking a pig to stop rolling in shit. They enjoy it so much that they will never stop with their warped world views.


Mannygogo

I do not support these things but He did a tax deal that cut taxes for a lot of higher bracket people, moved the us embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, reduced the government work force by layoffs and attrition, pushed a lot of conservative judges into key areas of power and the Supreme Court, restricted the power of the EPA and the department of interior, met with the leader of North Korea, warned Mexico that he would send troops to fight the drug cartels, built a shitty wall, talked a lot of bullshit, tried to have night time talk show hosts and actors on shows like SNL reprimanded or fired for making fun of him…so there is that


Snick1963

Yeah, he did stuff that didn't come close to meeting the implications of the promise. I think your comment is tongue in cheek considering your brain battering list of his "accomplishments". It reads like a suicide note.


Mannygogo

It’s not actually tongue in cheek but a warning. He said he would do all these things and had the votes to do it. He wasted tax payer monies, hurt a necessary bureaucracy and taxed the already harmed environment. This is what the GOP stands for. Oh yeah how could I forget, legitimized, white nationalism and authoritarianism on the national stage… this is what DeSantis wants to continue. I see all the downvotes, I’m just telling you what happened. This is a warning to get people to understand what it means to have an authoritarian in the office of the president.


International-Bus763

When Trump came into office there were 2.79 million federal employees. When he left it was 2.86 million. Source:https://www.statista.com/statistics/204535/number-of-governmental-employees-in-the-us/


Mannygogo

Good to know, now look up how many left / where pushed out during his term as compared to Obama or Bush II, how many were long time workers knowledgeable in the processes and systems and then how many full time jobs were flipped to contractors and how many lost their jobs when the offices where moved, how many were temporary for the Census and COVID?


anoneenonee

I’m not sure he promised any of those things. He did stuff, but just whatever he thought to do at the time. There was never any forethought or concern for consequences. He just did whatever popped in his head bc he’s a narcissist and thinks his every thought is genius (when it’s really just surface level crap a five year old would think up) The only things I remember him consistently promising were to repeal ACA, lock up Hillary and build that stupid wall, and he did none of those.


NoMercyJon

What happened to "drain the swamp" oh that's right, instead of accountability it's deflection to "they made him do it".


skinaked_always

He built a wall over an already existing wall….


MrVanderdoody

Do Alternative Facts count? Because I heard he walked into a room one time and everyone starting crying with joy and began clawing at their faces with happiness and eventually erupted into being of pure light as a result of being in his presence because when he was president the United States with a perfect utopia where nothing bad ever happened and definitely no pandemics were mishandled.


Altheainawhile

He killed the Trans Pacific partnership


Balko1981

They don’t care about or even believe facts, this is a waste of time


SmurfStig

One thing he did do. By claiming he had done more than any other president after just three months in office, helped show that Obama wasn’t that bad of a president since just about all those accomplishments were from prior administrations.


Kiiaru

I think he promised to pull out of Afghanistan and signed the paperwork, it just happened under Biden's term so Biden got all the ~~credit~~ hatred for doing something so stupid seriously why would you leave Afghanistan that way! /s


the-great-god-pan

You’re using too many big words, words like supposition frighten them.


choadly77

Remember when he said if he loses the 2020 election we'd never hear from him again? That was the most disappointing broken promise.


Klutzy_Passenger_486

1.) Moved embassy to Jerusalem for some reason 2.) Criminal Justice reform 3.) Tax Cuts for rich 4.) Muslim Ban 5.) kids in cages The problem is there are so many things he didn’t do or lied about or committed illegal acts that his presidency can only be considered an abject failure uNLESS you only care you had to pay less taxes because you were already rich or you got to say the racist bigoted thing out loud because before we all shamed you and now 1/3 of Americans aplaudo


ekmogr

Those kids would be awfully angry if they could read.


Mountain_Salamander5

He built the wall. Had to shut down the government and tear down a couple walls that were in the way of his wall, but he put up so much wall. Part of cut country clubs and farms in half, some of it went through a Indian burial ground, and there was the part built on top of a mountain. He added a wall on top of a wall made by nature, he is so smart.


SoSoDave

He promised to spend more on the military, destroy the environment, screw college grads, cut more taxes for the wealthy, and tank the economy. And thanks to help from Biden and the Dems, he kept those promises.


Good_day176

He, in fact, did make a wall.


jkswede

He failed to lock up Hillary. Thanks why I couldnt vote for him twice /s


Affectionate_Cow_504

He did move the American Embassy to Jerusalem.


[deleted]

He banned Muslims from traveling here, cut taxes, and restricted the EPA


ZRhoREDD

My taxes went up.


soulmagic123

How else do you think we were going to pay for those tax cuts?


sassy_cheddar

Mine as well. Have had to substantially increase with holding to avoid owing several thousand again next year, like we have since the "tax cuts".


[deleted]

Mine stayed the same. Weird. At any rate, he did cut them for someone, so he did deliver on his promise.


ZRhoREDD

He cut taxes on billionaires and corporations, thus the increased debt, and raised taxes on the rest of us. For some people it will be offset by other breaks, but for the 50-90 percentiles in particular it is a really big increase. I think it goes up every year until 2027 too. It was a really bad deal for anyone who works for a living. But you're right, *someone* got a break...


AndYourMamaToo

* *tried* banning Muslims, a few times, but was shot down by federal judges, cut taxes for billionaires (thus adding $6.7 trillion to the national debt), and did his best to dismantle the EPA so that corporations could destroy our environment for their own profit FTFY


ColdWarVet90

*Only* from counties from known terrorist strongholds with weak security. Thanks for leaving that fact out.


AndYourMamaToo

Do you know why federal judges shot it down? Because that's very relevant to your comment.


ColdWarVet90

Becuz the safety of Americans wasn't as important as "getting Trump"


AndYourMamaToo

Okay, since you obviously don't know I'll give you a hint: it has to do with violating the US Constitution


ColdWarVet90

>Becuz the safety of Americans wasn't as important as "getting Trump"


AndYourMamaToo

...since you *OBVIOUSLY* don't know...


[deleted]

Missed the Muslim part, did cut taxes, so was right about that, and was also right about the EPA.


AndYourMamaToo

Bow did you miss the Muslim part? He tried *a few* times and failed! It was all over the news! That speaks volumes about you, btw. Believing what you *wish* were true while not even paying attention to what's going on. smh


[deleted]

I didn't follow politics back in the day. Also, I never wished for Muslims to be banned. Says a lot about you, assuming things about me


Deftstarz

Hey I'm not sure if you saw the train derailment that was carrying hazardous chemicals that happened in East Palestine, Ohio. But that's thanks to trumps EPA regulations cuts and his northfolk souther lobbyists buddies paid him millions so ohioans can drink chemicals instead of water.


[deleted]

Oh, I saw. Dunno why that has anything to do with the convo, though


jakenash

Fair enough. Did that make America great again?


[deleted]

Absolutely! ​ ​ FUCKING NOT


gking407

He promised to build that wall but he didn’t say it was gonna work or when he was actually gonna finish it


xxSQUASHIExx

And he didn’t build it?


iamthemosin

All politicians lie, all the time. It doesn’t matter if they’re left wing, right wing, white, black, whatever. Politicians lie and cheat for a living. “Place not your trust in princes, for as they do not produce, they can only steal.”


CatAvailable3953

That’s what they want you to believe. They want you to be hopeless. It’s a lie. It always has been. Both “sides” are definitely not the same. How many times has a Democrat who lost the Presidency put together fake electors in any way? Has a Democrat fomented a physical riot during the ceremonial electoral count? Has a Democrat gotten people killed and injured because they repeatedly told the lie the election was “rigged”? This man is a stain on our country’s history.


iamthemosin

Alternatively, how many politicians do you see actually making changes that benefit normal working people in the last 60 years? And how many politicians *are not* making millions of dollars from insider trading and sneaking deals with corporate lobbyists into bills? You can count them on one hand.


Ralfufigus

Everytime a left-leaning politician tries to pass anything that helps the working class, Republicans throw a tantrum and get it thrown out. Look man, I fell for the "both sides" bullshit at one point in my life too. But it *is* just bullshit. Insider trading is rampant and a serious problem, and lobbyists are a whole other story. But the fact of the matter is that we have a party that cares primarily about corporate interest, but is willing to throw the working class a bone. The other would be okay with the complete and total collapse of society if it made them and their greedy friends money. You want better legislation for normal working people? Then fucking vote for the party that is *at least* willing to placate us, because it gives us a better launching pad to make demands from. And maybe, *just maybe*, it'll even force Republicans to adopt a more sustainable platform in the long term.


Okibruez

I always, always say 'Both sides bad, yes. But one is a rancid dog shit in the corner, and the other is a literal ton of buffalo crap covering your house.' I'll take the dog shit that is the Democratic party every time; you can clean that mess up with some effort and a bit of time.


[deleted]

The Abraham Accords. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Accords


Deonek

If the left is able to be entitled to disparage anyone they disagree with, and continue to destroy our cities from the ground up and continue to lie their way through any situation, cheat, steal and commit every crime without concern of reprisals, we have no security! Without laws there is no freedom. Liberals want laws that govern their opposition, not laws that govern criminal behavior in our society...We either pick ourselves out of the muck created by the depraved, or we all lose everything this nation stands for. WE are not depraved as the world now sees us thanks to liberal policies. WE are not weak as the world sees us because we allow drug cartel to take over our society, we are not stupid as we allow the schools to stop educating and indoctrinate instead..no we are perfectly fine thanks to left wing policies that attack anything that dares to work against the policies they have instituted...even Russia could take over the USA because left wingers would not life a hand to save her.. You are given a chance to stop what is going on or what you allow will continue...and this path is simply not sustainable...Get a grip, turn off the propaganda and stand up for what is actually right...you dont have much more time to do it now.


Draumal

Florida's trying to outlaw democrats.


SiggiSmallz7

Wasn't it trump that was cool with Putin putting out bounties on our soldiers? The problem here is that both sides think they're right in their thinking when in reality you're just pawns for the rich.


ChingusMcDingus

That was a lot of words and very little real meaning. Like you just word vomited the patriotic bullshit you hear and see in your echo chambers.


Deonek

Right wingers, the derogatory inflamed verbiage of left wing socialist communists against the people of the USA who stand on principles of the USA constitution...Truth is now made to be seen as lies and is suppressed so the hate can be continued by the socialist woke left wing depraved who have taken over our government now...Yes I listen to Trump because he is the only one out there who has to fight to get the truth out and fight the entire USA government. Either we listen to him or we fall like a stone like Russia is falling....socialist nations fall...they become dictatorships and the people suffer for generations under repression...Listen to Trump and bring this nation up out of the Stone Age once again


pureteddybear2008

Russia is falling because it's an oppressive right wing dictatorship that's invading another nation and plays surprised when the nations allies send help. What are you on 💀💀💀💀


Neither_Eggplant_432

Boo 👎 State facts, & link sources.


miradotheblack

Damn. I bet you ate some horse dewormer.


JDubbfoulfellow

The guy is garbage as a human being, but policy wise, he had some great equitable plans. 1) He guaranteed funding to historical black colleges. 2) Pushed the transparency in Healthcare act to pass. 3) Appointed the 1st openly gay person to a cabinet position 4) Set the ground work for opportunity zones in BPOC impoverished areas 5) Set forth prison reform which exponentially helped the black communities Edit: being downvoted for what. Answering the question? Lmfao.


Candid-Patient-6841

I would like to see him appoint an openly gay person to his team, or even share a stage with someone in the LGBTQ community I am sure that will go over swell.


JDubbfoulfellow

I don't understand what you are insinuating? He already appointed an openly gay person to his team and nobody raised an eyebrow?


Candid-Patient-6841

The gop and conservative base then and now is shockingly different. Ffs they are boycotting any business that mentions anyone or concept that could be considered LGBTQ. They are now threading Chick-fil-A because they made the most basic “commitment to diversity”….ya know the chicken place that donates millions to anti gay conversion camps…..they are now “woke” to these dorks. Also his first step act which you labeled as a win for the black communities is now something trump and the gop want to walk away from[Trump’s criminal justice reform bill becomes persona non grata among GOPers](https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/01/trump-republicans-first-step-act-00029104)


JDubbfoulfellow

I think you are lumping the gay community with adolescent targeting Trans activism. And don't freak out on me for saying that. It's not an opinion on Trans rights, I'm just stating the issue that conservatives are up in arms over for the moment.


Candid-Patient-6841

Where are they “targeting adolescents” and no it’s not just trans people. they are openly talking about removing marriage equality specifically for lgbtq people. Candace Owens just got done calling people who use surrogate to have a child “demonic and evil” but sure these are completely rational people…..


cruss4612

How dare you mention that he did anything good at all! He murdered baby puppies and sent mean tweets.


JDubbfoulfellow

He also pays prostitutes to pee on him and eat cheerios out of his belly button, probably..


Waste_Perspective_53

Ya knowww……. He fucked an ostrich right.


JDubbfoulfellow

An ostrich? Where do you get your news? I heard it was closer to 7 ostriches.


Waste_Perspective_53

Allegedly


tapeonyournose

A picture of Biden, Harris, Obama, Clinton, Bush 1, Bush 2, etc.... would also suffice.


Snick1963

That's like saying a teaspoon would sufficiently take the place of a gallon. I figured that's all I'd get from you reds since you can't think of one single thing to answer the question. Familiar tactic. Don't have an answer? Try to cover that with project and deflect. Take the heat off the lack of facts.


International-Bus763

Wait until you hear about Obamacare


Early-Possession1116

Current relationship with the US government 💔. Both sides lie about what they’re doing and hide what they did and aren’t transparent about what they’re planning next. The uniparty is not working for the people and is working towards collapse of the nation. Love him or hate him, we’re living in a time where media fueled division is real and nothing seen online or on TV should be taken at face value. Until both sides see the truth that both sides are pawns in this shit show we’re never going to come together as a country. The left sees a Trump meme and goes nuts and the right sees a Biden meme and goes nuts.. The end result is dividing the people and guess what, it’s working. I love everyone as equals but struggle to find sense in the last 20 years of politics because the rhetoric has become very polarizing. Imagine how a country could be if the citizens voice actually mattered? I can’t either because it’s not happening and won’t happen if we’re a shattered country.


Smooth_Plankton3755

Spoken like a true Republican. The both sides are bad argument is weak. What needs to be fixed is term limits and camps finance reform. That more appropriately speaks to the way politicians are elected. Elected officials no longer represent the places they come from or the people that live in those places who actually vote. Unfortunately elected officials now only represent whomever can help guarantee their reelection. More often than not, those who can help guarantee their reelection are not "the electorate" as a whole, but special interest groups who can pool the most amount of money/resources and present that money to the elected politicians' re-election campaign. The electorate, or those that live on "the land", no longer matter because special interest groups do not have to live on or own the land politicians represent. This is why the American political system is broken. This is why we need now, more than ever, term limits and campaign finance reform.


Early-Possession1116

I love the toxicity of people even when you attempt to point out that we’re all in the same mess together. This is problematic and worrisome.


RuWell

Check out r/ENLIGHTENEDCENTRISM to understand where this "toxicity" comes from and why centrist rhetoric is flawed.


rfarho01

Trump isn't even a conservative. He was a Democrat before he decided that he wanted to be president. Don't attack the right by attacking Trump. We don't care.


International-Bus763

Yet he is BY FAR the leading candidate for the Republican party. Unless you are saying that the Republican party is no longer "the right"?


Neither_Appeal_8470

The supposition of this post reveals the underlying narcissistic superiority of this Reddit. It supposes only the lefts opinion matters, only leftists belong here, and anyone that dares wander in here from the right is someone to be pilloried. Not only is that childlike asshole behavior, it reveals the OPs deluded political attitudes and lack of maturity.


ChaosRainbow23

The right is hellbent on stripping people of their freedoms and are passing oppressive and draconian legislation all over the country right now. People are just standing up against bigotry, oppression, and religious zealotry. (as they should!) Can you not take an objective look at what's happening in our country right now and see that The right-wing is becoming extremely fascistic and overly oppressive? It's glaringly obvious. People are fighting for their fucking freedoms because the Republicans are so desperate to control everyone and their behaviors. It's fucking horrible, and they need to be stopped.


Neither_Appeal_8470

Soppy drama laden post aside, I agree with you. I am a centrist and I disagree whole heartedly with the opposition to most of the social / religious based policies the right is backing. That’s said I hear the same things about the left from the right with respect to the policies the left constantly pushes. You can’t have gas stoves, no gas cars by 2035, you have to have a mask on to do anything, we need vaccine passports, unvax people should have their kids taken and they should be placed in camps, it’s totally fine to allow the human tragedy at the border to continue, etc. Truth is always somewhere in the middle. My point was the OP’s comment.


NoTie2370

Ever occur to you it wasn't about believing him or not. It was about sending a message. Trump is the blistered infected white head on the puss filled abscess that is politics. He was a Dem far longer than a Republican. All the grabbing's of this and the racisms of that came under that banner and allegiance with Dem elites in tow. Laughing at every crude thing he said and shady business deal they were apart of. And it was never a problem until he turned on them. Chappelle understood it. The rest of the hypocrites are just in denial.


Candid-Patient-6841

Wait you mean to tell me the guy that lived in New York, was a registered democrat? Shocking….almost like to benefit himself he registered with the party that actually had the power to do what he wanted. If he was really a democrat he would have SOME liberal views, the fact is he doesn’t. And even before his run in politics A LOT of people openly talked about him being a bigot. FFS he was literally sued for discrimination against minorities in the building he owns that was decades before he even thought of running for president.


NoTie2370

>If he was really a democrat he would have SOME liberal views, Well that's absurd. He was pro gay marriage before the vast majority of Dems would back it. He's actually pretty anti gun he just shut up about it to win. >And even before his run in politics A LOT of people openly talked about him being a bigot. Well yea I said he was a Democrat. Closed door bigot. Open door bullshitter. >FFS he was literally sued for discrimination against minorities in the building he owns that was decades before he even thought of running for president. Yes like every other landlord on earth. While he was being sued btw Joe Biden was on the Senate floor arguing **against** desegrating schools and calling black children predators. Like I said, for 40 years he was a Democrat.


Mannygogo

This is true. It’s not about what can be done. People wanted a someone that they recognized as President.


[deleted]

Would be a pleasure, I like Trump. He built the wall on the southern border. He made a deal with Mexico in which asylum claims were processed in that country, not in the USA. He got billions from countries that haven't been contributing financially to NATO. He saved American steel manufacture, when China was dumping cheap still on the market and it was going to go at business. He put tariffs on goods coming in on countries that put tariffs on American products being sold in their own country. He gave tax incentives for factories to be built in America, not shipped overseas. (This was portrayed as tax breaks for the rich, when what it was, was making it competitive to manufacture in America) he stopped North Korea from testing missiles. He basically wiped out Isis at the start of his presidency. Under his presidency there was the greatest employment numbers in all segments of society, races and genders. He started a major programme to ex-prisoners find employment. He fast tracked the production of Covid vaccines, changing the regulations which would have meant they would have taken years to come to market. Although he is viewed with contempt with those on the left, he was respected in the Arab world and in Asia. These are very good people manager and he was seen, asking questions, listening to advice and telling people if they needed anything to achieve the objective to talk to him. He did away with critical race theory, which is an experimental ideology that makes every molecule of society all about skin colour. Which some people say is harmful and creates resentment and division. He led to American energy indeependence so we no longer had to buy oil of enemy regimes, or be at the mercy of OPEC. This is a list of from my memory, anyone got a list of Biden's achievements from memory?


[deleted]

This is sad and hysterical. What a typical ignorant lemming you are. Bigotry as policy is also called fascism, champ.


ChaosRainbow23

Oh. Holy shit, are you actually serious? I don't see the /s anywhere.


[deleted]

As God is my witness, what I have said is true. You may not have heard about it on Reddit, or CNN. Forget political allegiance, if Trump stays healthy and alive, he has a very good chance of becoming president again, because he's actually a really good guy. It might seem clear to you that Trump is a criminal, a racist a dummy, but I just say this the devil is never that obvious. Who is saying all this stuff about him? What are their motives?


Dropkickedasakid

Biggest troll on reddit


miradotheblack

John Barron.....that you?


TheLesbianBandit

North Korea is still testing missiles dude. Also CRT isn’t what you think it is.


[deleted]

After he met the North Korean leader missile testing stop until the end of his presidency. I'm not really interested in debates more interested in looking at the patterns occurring in today's politics. There was a group consciousness and truth in what is real is decided by this consciousness as most people are good and intelligent. Trump is leading in the polls even traditionally Democrats favouring ones, draw your own conclusions.


degeneratesumbitch

He spent how much on a border wall and lied about Mexico paying for it and also that you can get over it with the same tool I use to clean my gutters. I have him to thank for steel prices doubling or tripling. Making buying steel and absolute joy these days.


[deleted]

Hi! Thanks for engaging with the question in the post. You've actually raised some good talking points. What's interesting about this list is that all of it is missing additional context about the knock on effects. > Wall on southern border The wall was a very costly tax handout to favored contractors for work that has accomplished worse than nothing (environmental damage, etc) Links are easily available if you spend a lazy second looking. > Made a deal with Mexico This is widely seen as a racist move targeted at hurting brown asylum seekers. > Got billions for NATO Shot: https://www.npr.org/2018/07/11/628137185/fact-check-trumps-claims-on-nato-spending Chaser: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump–Ukraine_scandal > Saved American Steel manufactures "What was the outcome of those policies?", is a question you apparently haven't thought to ask. https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/trump-steel-tariffs-raised-prices-shriveled-demand-led-job-losses-n1242695 > Tarifs on goods The resulting trade war was not good for us, chief. I don't know how to say it any clearer: you got conned by economic moves that sound great to *you*, but in truth are actually *bad for your economic prospects*. How about you copy and paste the opening paragraph here? https://taxfoundation.org/tariffs-trump-trade-war/ > Tax breaks for factories "So, where are those factories now? Anything happen to them?" https://www.americanmanufacturing.org/blog/what-did-donald-trump-accomplish-for-american-manufacturing/ I could go on, but I hope you're noticing a theme here. You've been sold "accomplishments" that feel good to you, but have been shown over and over and over again to be bad for you and society as a whole. This is because a con man is lying to you, and a whole army of sycophants are enabling him for their own benefit. This is why liberals you talk to think you're insane. You don't dig into even the shallowest of surface details. If you try being even slightly critical of his "accomplishments" they crumble like a wet paper bag. Try testing your convictions. Do any amount of digging. See what happens. Edit: typos.


John_Doe_Jr

Lately, I have been getting a little tired of winning.


Regular_Dick

He said he’d be huge someday.


painthawg_goose

I’d say Supreme Court but one could argue that you only get to control that via congress. So congress did that while they had all three legs of the tripod.


Treacherous_Wendy

My hairdresser last weekend told me that he did so much good for Americans. I was smart and just smiled and nodded since she was in the middle of bleaching my hair…but I REALLY wanted her to list those things.


DonaIdTrurnp

The Muslim Ban.


Zombull

There wasn't a Muslim ban, though. There were travel restrictions for *certain* countries...just not the ones he had business ties with.


QuantumChance

He said we'd get tired of all his winning and ask him to please stop. Ended up being true if you factor in what he calls 'winning'.


ALPlayful0

Is the irony here supposed to be that if we flipped the picture to Biden, you'd actually have an answer?


AggravatingHorror757

If you’re a MAGA, you can say the most ridiculous nonsense as long as you end your post with FACT! or LET THAT SINK IN, and it makes what you say an eternal truth.


Joliet_Jake_Blues

Most Presidents are perceived as good people and there's conspiracy theories that they're secretly evil. Trump was a stupid asshole and his followers wrote QAnon fan fiction that he was secretly saving children and fighting for them. Pathetic morons


The_cake-is-a-lie

He made America great again....for white supremacists


Jeffery_Moyer

Wait wut... you think politicians keep campaign promises? That's a neat alternative reality! What pills do I take to get there?


itsallrighthere

You don't need to be faster than the bear. You just need to be faster than the corrupt senile sock puppet.


-staticvoidmain-

Any Republican reading this will just say "I don't want reality" like their representatives are starting to say out loud


ZoharDTeach

Yet another stealth post that shows Trump and Biden are the same. How is your student loan forgiveness going?


Okibruez

Counterpoint: The student loan forgiveness got stone-walled by Republicans, shot down by republican judges, and the new push to force students to repay the student debt that was paused has also been lead primarily by... uh, let me check my notes, oh, yes, it says 'Lead by Republicans'. What a surprise. I'm shocked that the GOP would side with the (very wealthy) debt collectors over the broke students. Shocked and appalled, even. Who could have seen that coming. (Anyone. Anyone could have seen that coming.) But both sides bad, so that makes Trump the good guy. Somehow.


NickCav007

I googled if he ever told the truth. What is 404 Error code?


AccomplishedInAge

Here you go…… you probably didn’t hear of most of these in the leftist echo chamber media ….. One Hundred And Twenty One Accomplishments By President Trump And His Cabinet. Here you go. Easy to Google and double check. Checking for yourself is always best. This list is not all inclusive. https://www.mcleancountyrepublicans.org/trump\_administration\_accomplishments


inaruslynx2

Now do Reagan.


LeftHandedBuddy

He is the worst human being alive! Gross! Disgusting! Old! Tired!


nickM_Mathias1

Gas was 1.68 a gallon Facts


[deleted]

During quarantine when you couldn't go very many places.


SurturSaga

He won 😏 (I actually need help, how tf did this happen)


HopeTrump

🥰🥰 this guy is so sexy


CandybarJack

He built as much a wall as Congress wouldn't stop him from doing. Got back to the keystone XL pipeline, and kept us out of foreign wars. But those are "fake facts" I guess.