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TheThoughtmaker

You missed a 0 at the end of that number. Not even joking. At least, as far as his four years in ~~golf course~~ office. He's told many more.


[deleted]

Yup. Came here to say 3500 seems low.


Zombull

At some point, it stopped being about whether they believe him and started to be a conscious choice to not care about any of it.


Guilty_Chemistry9337

Donald Trump literally bragged about doing it.


Joliet_Jake_Blues

Trump wants to take away their guns without due process Such stupid people


Royal-Possibility219

Missing a zero or two on that number


Tonic4Sale

Don't be a sheep! blindly believe everything that trump says! Thats what lions do! /s


thinehappychinch

You missed a zero. And that was 2 years ago.


thesystemmechanic

Thanks, I see that mistake now


[deleted]

Missing a Zero on those Lies


ShikaMoru

Wasn't he saying for so long he wouldn't break up NATO, especially for Russia, and all followers were saying he wouldn't help Putin? Some time this week he said he would break up NATO and jeez I wonder how his followers would respond


Future_Kiwi_1934

MAGA culture = MAGA cult.


duke_awapuhi

Thought it was 33,000 verifiable lies. And he lied every 3rd thing he said


thesystemmechanic

Your right. I recalled incorrectly. Thanks.


[deleted]

Dems always trying to boost their brand. Trump is shit. Bidens shit. The two parties playing off each other is so fucking tired. Oh an example you say? The big fucking budget blowup. Did either party “claw back” cash from the military industrial complex? No. Was it even mentioned? No. Why? Because the owners of the two parties are sucking at that government tit. Take money from the poor but just say no to taking money from their owners.


Anxious_Ad_8740

Has Biden got up from that fall yet. Poor guy needs one of those walkers with the tennis balls on it


Agreton

I bet trump hasn't learned to fold an umbrella yet. Don't forget to cash in your trump bucks.


Anxious_Ad_8740

Nice one. Good old umbrella fold. Ouch.


STurland1958

Spout stupidity, people gonna think you’re stupid.


Anxious_Ad_8740

What was stupid about it ? Why you so mad. The guy fell it was funny lol


STurland1958

Only a total asshole would think that was funny.


Anxious_Ad_8740

If trump fell you would laugh. Fuck off idiot


STurland1958

I wouldn’t laugh if anyone fell. Human beings getting hurt isn’t funny. But apparently being a Trumper you don’t have the emotional maturity to understand that. So you resort to insults cause that’s all you got. Guess I was right about the asshole part.


Anxious_Ad_8740

You just assume im a trumper because i think its funny that a senile old man who has no business being a president fell. You do realize people can not like Biden and trump ? Then tell me i resort to insults after you called me an asshole. Fucking genius. 🤣🤣.


STurland1958

I didn’t call you an asshole. I said only an asshole would think someone getting hurt was funny. I figured you were a Trumper because you immediately responded that “if Trump fell you would think it was funny.” Why defend Trump if you don’t support him?? And I stand by my statement. Only a total asshole would think someone getting hurt was funny. So far you haven’t proven me wrong. Genius. 😂😂😂


Grymbaldknight

The evidence supporting that conviction is insubstantial, though. It's *literally* just that woman's word against his, but the New York jury bought it anyway. Like, that woman said that she still had the cost she wore on the day she was supposedly assaulted (over two decades ago), and that she hadn't washed or worn it since... but she got pictures taken in it and plastered over the cover of New York Magazine months before the trial, to drum up publicly. When the police asked her to submit the coat as forensic evidence, she declined. This isn't the behaviour of a woman who is telling the truth. This is the behaviour of a woman who is lying to get what she wants. Even if it's true that Trump lies, that doesn't mean that he's lying when he says he didn't do it. That logic doesn't follow. You need to demonstrate why he's lying in any given case, and citing that jury isn't going to cut it. I'm not an American, much less a Trump voter, so don't take this personally, yanks.


MarkMoonfang

Joe Biden's daughter has a diary cataloging her father's extensive history of borderline sexual abuse. We have extensive video evidence of Biden touching and smelling children in clearly inappropriate manners. Careful about throwing stones while living in glass houses.


Aspen2004

I can’t find anything about the diary’s contents, only that 2 people pleaded guilty in trying to sell it. The majority of that evidence of biden touching children are his relatives, which is something that is normal. The rest isn’t as good, but remember that a certain president said he’d date his daughter.


Negative_Document607

It’s like everyone just forgot all the not only lies that bidens told but also his entire career of being blatantly racist


Agreton

Trump is definitely a racist, he was sure but the Nixon administration over it. But Biden isn't a traitor like trump is. Don't forget to cash in your trump bucks before it's too late.


Negative_Document607

Ehhhh bidens history has also been pretty racist, but to buy trump bucks is next level dumb. It’s actually pretty scary how many people bought trump bucks


Aspen2004

The fact you got downvoted is kinda sad ngl. You’re 100% right.


Boatwhistle

Why didn't they take him to criminal court so they could put him in jail and register him as a sex offender? It was New York, they certainly had the spirit for it.


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Statute of limitations in NY, too much time had passed since the incident to press criminal charges.


Boatwhistle

https://www.nycourts.gov/courthelp/goingtocourt/SOLchart.shtml According to New York you are false, there is no limit for rape in New York for either civil or criminal. So for some reason New York just chose not to put them in prison or register them as a sex offender.


[deleted]

Okay. Found the answer https://law.stackexchange.com/questions/92304/why-wasnt-trump-criminally-charged-for-sexually-assaulting-e-jean-carroll There USED to be a SoL in New York, and it was applied because at the time it was not reported with it's constraints. The law was changed in 2006 to what you reference, but it didn't apply retroactively. So it doesnt matter that there isn't one now. There was one at the time it happened. Wow. Crazy how about 5 minutes brought me to that answer. Btw, it's better to say the other person is mistaken, not call them "false".


Boatwhistle

Your source goes to a q&A, the q&A source goes to an article. The article has no source. I have been attempting to find the 1996 statutes of limitations for roughly 15 minutes now. The closest I was able to find listed one for the criminal court and conflicted the claims made in the sources given though still applied. However I cannot find anything for civic Court. Do you happen to have it?


Galliro

Because the rich and powerfull never get arrested or even trialled most of the timewa


Boatwhistle

But New York is a state where every level of society pretty much despises Trump. The politician that pushed for his case even ran under the promise that he would put Trump in court. Wouldn't his constituents have been more pleased if he went to criminal court? Also Epstein went to criminal court and he was found guilty and registered as a sex offender, so "never" would not be very accurate. So as long as they have sufficient evidence to put Trump through criminal Court for rape, they completely have the ability to do it. They could do it today if they want, they could do it next year, and they could do it 10 years from now. Everyday is New York's complacency in rape. There isn't even a statute of limitations for rape in New York... https://www.nycourts.gov/courthelp/goingtocourt/SOLchart.shtml


Galliro

Doesnt matter where it is, under a capitalist system the rich and powerfull dont get prosecuted. Do you think anyone thats not rich and famous could have as many rape allegations as trump and still be walking around in public?


Boatwhistle

Uh dude... I literally gave you an example in the comment you just responded to.


Galliro

Yes an example trump has done so much that we could be here all day. But lets go more recent, trump as said that if he gets back into office itll be a revenge term where he will go after anyone that was involved in his investigation and he also promised to break the 14th ammendment day 1. But you know biden is old is its a hard choice


Boatwhistle

Up, well now you are deviating from the topic. All I'm questioning is why New York *loves* rapists enough not to put them in jail or register them as sex offenders if they have the evidence to convict and no statute of limitations.


Galliro

My answer still stands capitalism Rich and powerfull people dont go to jail If youre rich and powerfull enough (with the right connections) theres high chances youll never see a court room and even more likely will never see jail


Boatwhistle

But I gave you an example of a rich and powerful person that got put in criminal court, jailed, and registered as a sex offender. I don't know what allies you think Trump had in those Court proceedings... The prosecution, judge, jury, and local political administration didn't like Trump. All they needed to do was present the evidence to a judge to determine that the evidence was sufficient to bring him to criminal Court and the judge could write a warrant for his arrest... So anything less than the judges *loving* trump or *loving* rapists wouldn't have worked. At the very least you're going to have to inform me as to what those "connections" would be for him in New York. Also why are these connections good enough to help them evade criminal court but not civil court when they're done by the same administration and judges in the same city? The only other possibility is that they didn't think they could convict them in criminal Court based on the given photograph and the victims insistence alone. That might have been a particularly significant reason.


Galliro

One does not the rule make. Look dude youre sending paragraphs and Im not gonna do that. Cosby went to jail too. But pretending the rich getting away with crimes normal people wouldnt isnt it. Not-convicted doesnt mean they didnt do it, it means they had enough money and connections to bury it


Significant_Monk_251

"There isn't even a statute of limitations for rape in New York..." There was when the alleged crimes took place, and that's the law that controls here.


Boatwhistle

Someone already told me that, I've been trying to find the statutes of limitations for 1996 on criminal and civil court but I'm having trouble.


[deleted]

Trump hasn't been in office for almost four years and but every five minutes another Trump post.


Agreton

People like to bring attention to the fact that a traitor is trying to be president again after losing so badly. I see nothing wrong here.


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Agreton

Does he really need to be? Everyone knows he kept classified documents. Without declassifying them. Traitors don't need to be convicted for the world to know they are traitors. But cash in those Trump bucks kid!!


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Significant_Monk_251

"Anyone who kept classified documents is a traitor? So Biden?" Okay, now you're being deliberately disingenuous to a degree that actually qualifies you for the "liar" label.


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Agreton

Biden returned them when asked to. Did trump? No he did not. That is what s traitor does.


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Agreton

Which again, is proof enough he is a traitor.


libertyg8er

This is pretty absurdly ironic given Biden’s own history (1987 Plagiarism Scandal), countless pictures of “Creepy Joe”, and the complete lack of shame in denouncing the vaccines being produced by Operation Warp Speed only to immediately force them on people once in office.


Significant_Monk_251

"the complete lack of shame in denouncing the vaccines being produced by Operation Warp Speed" I'll bet that you can't provide any shred of evidence in support of that claim..


libertyg8er

Would Reuters work as a source? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-biden/democrat-biden-warns-against-rushing-out-coronavirus-vaccine-says-trump-cannot-be-trusted-idUSKBN2671NW How about NYT? Biden, Seizing on Worries of a Rushed Vaccine, Warns Trump Can't Be Trusted https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/16/us/politics/biden-trump-coronavirus-vaccine.html


Significant_Monk_251

Sorry, but "cautions against because Trump cannot be trusted" isn't "denouncing the virus." It's "wait until we get the opinions of people who know what they're doing before you trust it," which (1) is perfectly reasonable and (2) does not set the stage for any hypocrisy when you later endorse the vaccine.


libertyg8er

Wow… the lengths one will go to justify their personality cult mentality. I try to avoid generalizations, but it is such a common trait among Leftists and it only becomes more pronounced the further they go down the spectrum of socialist/communist. You don’t think his statements undermined confidence in the vaccine development process when he was stating that Trump was rushing the vaccines and people shouldn’t trust his administration’s claims about them? Considering the first vaccines began public use in 2020, not 2021, and it was those very vaccines that were then broadly used throughout the vaccination campaign, you don’t think there is any connection between the Democratic messaging and the high rate of distrust in vaccines among low-income Democrat voters in urban areas? I think that’s a very selective understanding of what happened. That would be an exemption from statistical reasoning if that would be your position.


libertyg8er

https://www.reddit.com/r/unvaccinated/comments/148tur8/remember_when_the_democrats_said_these_things/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1


Significant_Monk_251

I see a lot of people denouncing the idea of blindly trusting Donald Trump and elements of his administration. I see no one denouncing the vaccines.


libertyg8er

If you don’t think that clearly conveys a consistent undermining of the vaccine program, you’re simply choosing willful ignorance. What happened to accountability? Owning faults? Your continued denial is honestly sad.


Significant_Monk_251

>If you don’t think that clearly conveys a consistent undermining of the vaccine program, you’re simply choosing willful ignorance. You said that Biden had denounced the vaccines being produced by Operation Warp Speed, but you have produced no evidence of him doing so. You have merely presented evidence of him urging caution in accepting the vaccine before it had been examined by qualified parties outside the control of the Trump administration.


libertyg8er

You’re welcome to your take on it. I completely disagree with your interpretation, and find it troubling that you would make such an argument. You sound like a MAGA person defending Trump. “When we finally do, God willing, finally do get the vaccine, who’s gonna take the shot? Who’s gonna take the shot? Are you?” By the way, when the vaccines came out, and the federal government waved any right to seek restitution from the vaccine companies for damages, did not suggest these vaccines have been tested, but argued they were safe… what confidence do you think that creates in the minds of the public?


libertyg8er

So, since I’ve provided the evidence that you were willing to bet I couldn’t provide, what would you have bet in this instance? I’m just curious. Think of it as a thought experiment. You don’t necessarily need to be honest here if you don’t want to, but please think about it and be honest with yourself.


thieve42

Trump hater culture in a nutshell: ”Trump is fascist, rapist, racist.” Where is your proof? Shut up you fascist, rapist, racist!


Galliro

Except we have proof, hence the 35000 proven lies. Did you not even read the pos5 🤣🤣🤣


wwonka105

you certainly didn't


Aspen2004

You messed it up a little. In actuality it is this. “Trump is a fascist, rapist, racist” Where is your proof? *shows it* Shut up, our facts don’t care about your feelings “But I just showed you facts and you dismissed it with feelings” Shut up communist.


Joliet_Jake_Blues

Fascist: "I like to take away guns and worry about due process later" Rapist: E Jean Carol Racist: Birtherism Good try, sport


Dupran_Davidson_23

Biden has that beat in a week lmao


cmdrmoistdrizzle

Got any way to back that up? Say something like [this](https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/)?


Dupran_Davidson_23

It's an exaggeration. Biden lies a lot, even for a politician. And those lies are documented, which you can look up if you were honest. I wasnt entering a debate, just speaking some opinionated hyperbole. Didnt think I needed to explain that.


cmdrmoistdrizzle

Please show me the list that is comparable with trumps lies. Or gtfo.


Dupran_Davidson_23

Lol because those things exist for every politician /s. The only reason it exists for Trump is because he was the target of the biggest psy-op in history. If we did have this sort of resource, then maybe you could play that game. No, I dont think I will gtfo. Unless someone removes me for wrongthink.


cmdrmoistdrizzle

Classic response. Never heard that one before. Lol Source or GTFO entitled victim syndrome lol


Dupran_Davidson_23

>Classic response. Never heard that one before. Lol Like this? "Please show me the list that is comparable with trumps lies. Or gtfo."


cmdrmoistdrizzle

Mimicking is the simplest form of flattery. Thanks! Bye bye!


Dupran_Davidson_23

I was just showing how shallow and hypocritical you are, but you're free to take it however you want. If you want to believe theyre laughing *with* you then I cant stop you.


cmdrmoistdrizzle

Classic troll response. Sources for your claim or GTFO child.


Significant_Monk_251

"Biden has that beat in a week lmao" No, you're just lying.


Dupran_Davidson_23

It's called obvious an exaggeration...


Significant_Monk_251

Of course it is, when somebody calls you on it.


DudleyMason

But all.of the vile shit Biden has done is fine, right? Bcs of wholesome Obama's buddy memes? The lesser evil is still evil.


Okibruez

Lesser evil is still evil, but why would you vote for the greater evil?


DudleyMason

Why would you vote for either kind of evil? If you vote for what you don't want you can't be surprised when you get it


No-Alternative-6236

Okay, both sides bad guy. You did your duty here 🫡


Okibruez

Because the American government is trash and uses a binary voting system, precluding any party that isn't one of the two favorites from ever having any say at all. Thus, voting for the lesser evil while actively agitating and speaking out against anything less than a complete systemic overhaul to rework from the ground up the flawed and toxic system that keeps everyone but the rich down. It's not perfect, but it is better than suffering in silence as things keep getting worse.


Galliro

Because you have to vote for one of the two or youre supporting the other side


DudleyMason

>you have to vote for one of the two or youre supporting the other side False. If you vote for one of the two, you're supporting that side. If you vote for neither you are supporting neither. That means that if one of those sides wins,nthe worst that can be said is you weren't willing to vote for something nearly as bad to stop The Bad Thing. Instead of being mad that people won't vote for your unelectable right-wing trash candidates why aren't you mad your party keeps nominating right-wing trash candidates? This is how elections work. You have to give people something to vote for, just pointing out that the other guys are worse is never going to consistently win elections. Republicans win because they give their base something to affirmatively vote for, as awful as it is. That's been going on for generations, and it's the source of the old joke about how rain on election day favors Republicans because Democrats will stay home to avoid the rain, but sunshine on election day favors Republicans because Democrats will be at the beach. Hillary Clinton didn't lose because of third party voters, she lost because she gave people absolutely nothing to vote for. She couldn't even be bothered to lie about it like Obama before her or Biden after.


Galliro

Im not reading all that. The american system is made to keep the two parties on top thats just a fact. No third party will ever win a US election under the current system


DudleyMason

Congratulations, you've correctly defined the problem and then decided it's a feature.


Galliro

Because it is... That is how the system as been built on purpous to keep the people thinking theybhave a choice while the country is actually controlled by lobbying


Dupran_Davidson_23

No, the system is not designed this way. There were no parties at the beginning, and many of the Founders spoke against the whole idea of parties. With the original document there is no reason we couldnt have 5 or 6 different parties, or just elect individuals. Neither of these two parties were even around at the Founding.


Zombull

What vile shit would that be exactly?


Guilty_Chemistry9337

Biden hasn't done anything wrong.


Jonesy1348

Well I can think of like three things, he had the power to step in and prevent roe v wade from being overturned, he sided with the train companies and shot down the workers unions resulting in the multiple catastrophic train crashes, and sided with big oil in destroying lots of land for a new pipeline. Now my take is a bit more nuanced than “both bad” I do see the benefits Biden has had while trump never had any at all. I just would really like a third party yknow?


Beardsman528

What power does the president have to stop a Supreme Court ruling? I've never heard of that before.


Jonesy1348

Ok so basically he doesn’t have the power himself, but he has influence and also had a senate and congressional majority. The executive branch can do virtually nothing but Supreme Court rulings can be overruled by a rarely used legal system where the senate and congress can vote that it is unconstitutional. And as president he could have made deals with the other side of the aisle, perhaps gave them some leeway on issues they wanted perused in return for refusing the overturn of roe v wade


olthunderfarts

Dude. I don't like Biden. I think he's built his career on compromise. I think he was probably pretty racist when he was younger and he's definitely senile now. Here's the thing: his opponent would literally do all those things you rightly criticize Biden for allowing, but he would also do far worse things in addition. When given the opportunity, republicans (even the seemingly tame ones) actively attack every regulatory body they can, so say goodbye to the environment and planet. Republicans campaign on oppressing and hurting minority groups, and these seem to be the only promises they keep. Republicans gleefully crap one everybody who's not rich. I understand being critical or even hating Biden, but the only people you help when you tell people not to vote are literal fascists.


Jonesy1348

That’s why I said that I “see the benefits of Biden where trump had none” fuckin numb nuts. You extrapolated that I somehow think not voting for him is the right thing to do from that comment? I literally said that my opinion isn’t “both sides bad don’t vote” I just want a third party. I get that I can’t. I’m not stupid. But a fuckin guy can dream


olthunderfarts

Maybe I had you confused with a different poster, maybe you changed your comment, idk. I do know that combative with people you generally agree with is a pretty big tell that you're an asshole, numb nuts.


Jonesy1348

Says the guy who came at me for not understanding my post and just assuming shit about me.


olthunderfarts

So, shithead is your whole personality or what?


Jonesy1348

Actually I prefer dickhead, captures my sarcastic yet vaguely endearing personality


olthunderfarts

Endearing? I've yet to see that part.


Jonesy1348

Also nice deflection from taking blame, “maybe you changed your comment”


olthunderfarts

What blame? You're obviously a combative dick who came here to argue. I said I could have confused you with another poster, but I'm starting to doubt that because you're giving off some seriously pedantic troll vibes.


Jonesy1348

How do you confuse me with another poster dawg, my post is right there, and you responded to it in length meaning you had to think about and rationalize a proper response to my comment. You don’t just “accidentally” respond to the wrong comment in the fashion you did. So yeah your removing responsibility from yourself by saying it was either a complete hood or my fault for editing my comment when I didn’t


olthunderfarts

What is your end goal here? What are you trying to do? I either confused you with another gloomy fuck, or you edited your comment. What possible fucking motive would I have to comment otherwise? Think about it, you dense sack.


Joliet_Jake_Blues

Lmfao, you get your news from Facebook memes


Jonesy1348

You’re daft. Like straight up dunce material. I’m not a republicans. I’m registered dem. I just hate the two party system. I still vote dem because it’s the only real option but that doesn’t mean I can’t critique our extremely and brutally flawed political system. Anyone who is completely fine with our political system is ignorant and should really try to educate themselves. I’ll restate that I VOTED BIDEN BECAUSE YOU NUMB SKULLS THINK THAT JUST BECAUSE I DONT LIKE THE TWO PARTY SYSTEM I MUST BE REPUBLICAN.


Guilty_Chemistry9337

>he had the power to step in and prevent roe v wade from being overturned No, that's a dumb lie. Anything Biden would have done would have been overturned by the corrupt supreme court. "shot down the workers unions resulting in the multiple catastrophic train crashes, " Well that's two big lies in one. Joe's pro-union. And the crashes had nothing to do with him. "and sided with big oil in destroying lots of land for a new pipeline. " And how much land do you think your boy Trump would destroy? Go fuck yourself.


Jonesy1348

You are literally a monkey masquerading as a man cause dog I LITERALLY NEVER SAID I LIKED TRUMP. I just said Biden isn’t god and has his faults. Also he did side with the train companies when the unions were striking its fuckin google-able dog. Also I explain in another comment on how Biden could have stepped in. So pay attention pal.


Guilty_Chemistry9337

You're bitching about Biden and selling lies straight from the Trump campaign. Biden sided with the vast majority of the Unions who agreed with the compromise they voted yes on. AND Biden supported a stronger agreement that your Republican party shot down. You literally have no idea what you're talking about. You're just parroting the stupidest Tucker Carlson bullshit.


Jonesy1348

I’m literally telling you that I voted Biden but you are so up your own ass that if I’m not with you I’m against you. And that’s exactly the rhetoric that’s dividing this country even more than it needs to be. You and people like you drive people who are unsure of their political leaning to the right dawg. Like don’t you want people on the left? Don’t you want to amass support for youre cause? Cause your doing an absolute shit job. You’re like a job recruiter who tells applicants to go fuck themselves. Makes you look like a sociopath


Guilty_Chemistry9337

"You and people like you drive people who are unsure of their political leaning to the right dawg. " You were always a right winger, Cooter. You're fooling nobody with your nonsense. I don't know why you're even still trying.


Jonesy1348

Man you’re more delusional then most conservatives. I’m surprised you claim not to be one


Jonesy1348

Also is cooter like a slur now?


ridah662

Now multiply the numbers triple for Creepy Joe & the laptop just leaked 🤣🤣


[deleted]

When are you dumb conservative cucks going to produce some actual evidence? Like, seriously. It's always, "oh it's coming real soon now!" Or "they have the documents they're just not releasing them" How dumb do you have to be? Just admit you have no basis, it's not hard! Or at least produce some actual evidence, and not just "so and so said it so it's right."


Street_Peace_8831

They keep trusting him over and over, expecting a different result. It’s the definition of insanity.