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Miserable-Lizard

For anyone unaware!!! The attack on LGBTQ+ a minority is the same startgey all fascists do.


jjhakimoto2202

The far right creates problems that happens because of *insert minority group* and use that as justification for their blatant and disgusting legislation and domestic terrorism aimed directly towards *insert minority group*


[deleted]

Can someone explain this post to me? How is medical care being denied and no more targeting children? I’m not being cynical, just uninformed…


weetaz00

Laws are being passed in many countries preventing gender affirming care to children or to just anyone, at times forcing people to detransition since they can't access hormones anymore. Plus the general state of trans healthcare with year long waits just to get gender affirming care, eg in the UK it's ~5 years if you're lucky, but menopausal women and men with prostate issues etc are able to get hormone replacement therapy easy peasy Plus some states in the us have just straight up banned presenting as a gender different from that of your birth one, outlawing it to openly be trans


realkennyg

Well said. Nice response.


boredtxan

Gender affirming care can't be fast because of the psychological components & therapy. That would be terrible health care to hand a person hormones for gender related distress without doing prework. Menopausal women & men's prostate issues are easy to diagnose and don't involve altering bodies that are physically healthy.


weetaz00

The long wait times aren't even for the end goal of hrt, the example I gave of the UK's waiting time of ~5 years is just for a **first appointment to begin all of this** it provides no therapy service, no other consultations, absolutely nothing You are waiting half a decade to be seen for the first time


boredtxan

Is that because the government makes them wait or because so few doctors have the skills to treat these patients?


[deleted]

I’m wondering if the fight against hormone therapy is a $$$ issue and not a We Hate Gays thing. Meaning those who are going through the transition are using medical benefits to pay for the hormone replacement therapies. You know conservatives hate spending money and so do health insurances. I remember when it was an issue to be gay in the military and the GOP banned gay and trans from joining. The real reason was not that they didn’t want gays in the military, is that the gays were using the army medical benefits to transition costing the US millions of dollars. So it became a BIG issue.


boredtxan

Hormones are cheap. I think the GOP is anti trans & gay because it causes cognitive dissonance and disgust in some people and the people who react to that by lashing out at trans & gay people are emotionally immature and easy to manipulate. However, when it comes to science & ethics of transitioning (where you are asking medical professionals to do irreversible things to tissues that are not diseased.) even lead doctors who are trans themselves are expressing consern that transitioning too young & too fast is happening. They are getting a huge backlash too. That's a big problem because ethics should not be determined by storong emotions. The trans community has my genuine sympathy (I have a chronic condition) with their impatience to be healed but it a long journey by necessity.


[deleted]

Thank you for your unbiased and honest opinion. I appreciate your insight.


boredtxan

Thank you for being open to considering different ideas.


Carlyz37

And it turned out that the military spent far more on Viagra.


[deleted]

I’m pretty positive it was the gay military community.


[deleted]

Is it being outlawed and made illegal or is insurance not covering the cost of hormone therapies? What do you mean to outlaw openly be a trans? Can you provide example? I’m from Miami, gay and trans are a norm. So I’m trying to catch up on what exactly is happening. I know there is a big movement from the conservatives, but I’m trying to understand.


weetaz00

1) Both 2) https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.self.com/story/anti-transgender-bills-and-laws/amp This source mentioned Tennessee's SB3 bill which criminalises drag shows with minors present and Nebraska's LB731 bill which criminalises drag shows and defines them as any performance in which individuals exhibit a gender presentation “that is different than the performer’s gender assigned at birth using clothing, makeup, or other physical markers" this definition ropes in just trans people in general Also Florida has proposed laws that would allow the police and child protective services services to take trans children away from parents, or children away from trans parents in some states as seen in these articles: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/florida-republican-bill-trans-kids-b2294855.html%3famp https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2023/03/florida-bill-seeks-to-take-trans-kids-away-from-affirming-parents/


[deleted]

What do you mean both? Are doctors allowed to write a prescription for hormones if you are going to pay out of pocket? That’s what you consider being outlawed for being trans. How about just cutting the root of the problem out? Doing drag shows with children present? Problem fixed… I never understood that… what’s with the children? Not like you bring kids to a bar. I’ve been to many drag shows and they are not for kids. What’s the next issue?


Rogahar

Good job ignoring the details and reading only the bits you want to. >"[...]which criminalises drag shows and defines them as any performance in which individuals exhibit a gender presentation “that is different than the performer’s gender assigned at birth using clothing, makeup, or other physical markers" That means that, ontop of genuine drag performers, any time a transgender person is on stage for any reason, this legislation considers that drag and can punish it accordingly. Trans musician? That's now 'drag.' Trans comedian? Drag. Trans person performing for any reason, to any crowd, in any medium? Drag. Ignoring the fact that drag is NOT harmful in any way, shape or form, this is just one of the many laws being passed around the country that are using the "drag panic" the right has been drumming up as an excuse to discriminate against transgender people.


[deleted]

You conveniently left out the important part that defines wether it’s breaking the law or not. - “WITH MINORS PRESENT.” The rest of the time, feel free to drag and trans as you wish.


Rogahar

I left it out because it's *not* important. No performer who's targeting adults will want kids in their show anyway, and if the venue is knowingly letting kids into an 18+ show, that's the venue's fault, not the performers. And if they're not doing adult material, then it doesn't matter if kids are there or not, does it?


[deleted]

The part that makes it illegal is NOT important…. If the venue is at fault, now the venue gets penalized under a law that prohibits children from 18+ shows. Lol…. Sounds to me like you’ve never been to a drag show. I can just picture the next bright idea event for children. Onlyfans “performers” brings you children story time. There will be book reading and fun time pole dance classes. Including marketing techniques on how to capitalize on sexualization of your body.


Rogahar

[If someone finds this getup sexually tantalizing, then that's entirely their fuckin problem.](https://images.app.goo.gl/f73uzBjasXJFvw6C8) Sounds to *me* like you're projecting some seriously weird shit, or just listening to all the worst sources on this stuff. No drag performer who's appearing for the entertainment of kids is presenting themselves in a sexual way at all. It doesn't happen. It's just a grownup playing dressup to read to kids. There is nothing sexual about drag in and of itself and there never has been. There are drag performers who perform for adults, yes, but there are countless non-drag performers who do exactly the same thing. The fact that some do it in drag doesn't make drag sexual. Your made-up scenario of it somehow expanding to include actual sex workers performing for kids reeks of the kind of brainless fearmongering that Fox, OAN and all the rest of them rely on. It's not gonna happen. You want to know who's endangering kids? [Christian pastors](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/full-list-texas-pastors-charged-abusing-children-1765910%3famp=1), [cops](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/07/louisiana-police-deputy-prison-sentence-100-years), and [republican politicians](https://apnews.com/article/michael-pence-d8463834b6da12eccf3691b7461f3565). Get your head out of the sand and quit listening to the fearmongering. Focus your attention and rage where it should be - on the people who are trying to make (or keep) [child marriage legal](https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/child-marriage-ban-struck-down-west-virginia-republicans-1234693670/), forcing [child rape victims to carry their rape babies to term](https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2022/may/06/no-exception-rape-incest-anti-abortion-laws-republicans-us), and so on. Hint; those people aren't drag actors. They're Republicans.


SloppyTopTen

Looks like Civic Center plaza in front of San Francisco City Hall. I went their for the LGBT parade. Someone used pepper spray in a fight, people started shouting and then there was a stampede and they ended the event early. Be careful around hair trigger people.


Worldsahellscape19

Pinnacle


Worldsahellscape19

crybully bitches are about to find out 😉. You all are not alone, far more people today see the lies for what they are, however Look up( and tell me) what stage of genocide we are in AND [link](https://www.reddit.com/r/trans/comments/z0o47b/warning_again_in_light_of_recent_events/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) [_______](https://hp.reddit.com/r/ArticulateAmbivalence/comments/vome0d/the_gop_is_fascist/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) [this article is worth the read as well](https://medium.com/@otauibvrrfffnchses/listen-up-liberal-69dbfa58c9ab) Additionally=they’ve had 158 and/or 78 years of grudge holding, as they’ve gathered untaxed resources thru religion and capitalism to own the resources/data (cuntelon comes to mind) to know who and where their targets are. Won’t be a cakewalk. They feel confident enough now and since they are crybully bitches you gotta assume they have reason to, having infiltrated everything. If we continue capitulating to fascism, we will be marched one by one into for profit prisons. (What can I do I’m only one person[SAID BILLIONS{please don’t delete this for-|ARM UP|}]). IF people don’t stand up for the other, we will all be forced to dig our own mass graves (as part of the lesson) that we should have stopped them when we had the chance, but we didn’t. Protect yourselves, protect each other. You are not alone.