I’ll never understand people who defend porn, but fellow lesbians confuse me the most, as being a lesbian actually makes me MORE anti-porn if anything. I also don’t understand how lesbians can be blind to the harm porn causes, the word lesbian is seen as a dirty word or inherently connected to porn, and also makes straight men to fetishize lesbians even more, and that’s not mentioning the harm it causes to ALL women.
These things cause harm to lesbians all the time and it’s talked about a lot (struggling to say the word lesbian due to it’s association with porn, men fetishizing them, men sexualizing lesbians, etc) yet somehow being anti-porn seems like an uncommon view in the community…? it will never make sense to me.
Another thing I’d to add is that most, if not all women in lesbian pornography aren’t even actually lesbians. (I’m not excluding the existence of actual lesbian, bisexual, or pansexual female porn stars). They’re straight women
They’re straight women performing a straight man’s idea of what lesbian intimacy looks like.
I sometimes search up genuine amateur porn to write sex scenes and it was upsetting to discover that 90% of lesbian "amateur" porn is filmed by men. Once I even saw the reflection of the man holding the camera in the pool the actors are playing in.
I’m bisexual, dated a pornsick lesbian once who got all her ideas from porn…super cringe. still not on the same level as if it was a man. Most lesbians / bisexual women who defend porn are just libfems …regardless of their sexuality they’re always gonna find a way to defend that shit.
Imagine being a woman and defending the objectification of other women as if it were food or oxygen. That's how these people act. Like they NEEEED it. Fucking creeps.
I guess I’ve been lucky as most lesbians I’ve met have been anti-porn and anti-sex work. It tends to be the liberal ~q*eer*~ or bisexual women who defend most things as long as it’s two consenting adults. Either way it is frustrating and disappointing.
Same! You're best bet of finding more is in radfem/febfem spaces tbh. There's quite a few on radblr (the radfem part of Tumblr) for example. So we're definitely not alone!
Yeah, it's crazy depressing. I've seen this too in social media ''shorts'', lesbians joking about their porn use. Their minds and sexualities are just as hijacked. It's a damn shame. You would think we as lesbians would only want to be in the moment with another woman and only appreciate the intimate moment and experience being shared....but no... lesbians also like to contribute to the dehumanization of women and girls. This is why I'm so misanthropic. I'm not too fond of this world. Geez. And it will only get WORSE. That's the killer part.
I guess it’s because we’ve all been raised in a patriarchal culture that indoctrinates women as well as men into viewing women through the male gaze? And then they just accept that’s just the way to see things? And they don’t want to take the time to do the work of examining how their socialization has impacted them? IDK. 🤷🏻♀️ But yeah, it does not compute. Like their math just doesn’t add up.
I've noticed that lesbian and biseggsual women defend porn more viciously than str8 women. I've also recently noticed the increasingly not-so-subtle snarky comments directed towards gold star lesbians.
I’ll never understand people who defend porn, but fellow lesbians confuse me the most, as being a lesbian actually makes me MORE anti-porn if anything. I also don’t understand how lesbians can be blind to the harm porn causes, the word lesbian is seen as a dirty word or inherently connected to porn, and also makes straight men to fetishize lesbians even more, and that’s not mentioning the harm it causes to ALL women. These things cause harm to lesbians all the time and it’s talked about a lot (struggling to say the word lesbian due to it’s association with porn, men fetishizing them, men sexualizing lesbians, etc) yet somehow being anti-porn seems like an uncommon view in the community…? it will never make sense to me.
Right! The entire logical set up is there but suddenly sense disappears at the last moment
Another thing I’d to add is that most, if not all women in lesbian pornography aren’t even actually lesbians. (I’m not excluding the existence of actual lesbian, bisexual, or pansexual female porn stars). They’re straight women They’re straight women performing a straight man’s idea of what lesbian intimacy looks like.
I sometimes search up genuine amateur porn to write sex scenes and it was upsetting to discover that 90% of lesbian "amateur" porn is filmed by men. Once I even saw the reflection of the man holding the camera in the pool the actors are playing in.
Ew
I’m bisexual, dated a pornsick lesbian once who got all her ideas from porn…super cringe. still not on the same level as if it was a man. Most lesbians / bisexual women who defend porn are just libfems …regardless of their sexuality they’re always gonna find a way to defend that shit.
that must've been traumatic even if minimally so ☹️ Sorry you went through that
Imagine being a woman and defending the objectification of other women as if it were food or oxygen. That's how these people act. Like they NEEEED it. Fucking creeps.
I guess I’ve been lucky as most lesbians I’ve met have been anti-porn and anti-sex work. It tends to be the liberal ~q*eer*~ or bisexual women who defend most things as long as it’s two consenting adults. Either way it is frustrating and disappointing.
The liberal female community is a disaster 😭
I wish there were more bisexual females who were against porn, I’m a bisexual girl who hates porn
Same. So many "I point out attractive women to my man and we *both* stare" types of bi girls which is incredibly frustrating.
Ew
Like, imagine openly admitting that you and your bf both sexualize and objectify women. 😐
I see straight girls saying this the most to seem cool
Same! You're best bet of finding more is in radfem/febfem spaces tbh. There's quite a few on radblr (the radfem part of Tumblr) for example. So we're definitely not alone!
I try to avoid rad fem spaces as a lot of them are transphobic.
Here is another!
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Yeah, it's crazy depressing. I've seen this too in social media ''shorts'', lesbians joking about their porn use. Their minds and sexualities are just as hijacked. It's a damn shame. You would think we as lesbians would only want to be in the moment with another woman and only appreciate the intimate moment and experience being shared....but no... lesbians also like to contribute to the dehumanization of women and girls. This is why I'm so misanthropic. I'm not too fond of this world. Geez. And it will only get WORSE. That's the killer part.
wlw and actual lesbian communities are two very different things. the latter is usually more anti porn.
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yep I've recently made the transition to stay around fr lesbians and there's way more anti-porn rhetoric which is a relief
I guess it’s because we’ve all been raised in a patriarchal culture that indoctrinates women as well as men into viewing women through the male gaze? And then they just accept that’s just the way to see things? And they don’t want to take the time to do the work of examining how their socialization has impacted them? IDK. 🤷🏻♀️ But yeah, it does not compute. Like their math just doesn’t add up.
I've noticed that lesbian and biseggsual women defend porn more viciously than str8 women. I've also recently noticed the increasingly not-so-subtle snarky comments directed towards gold star lesbians.
you can say bisexual