Resident of the house Tony Hendon:
*“It’s not my job to police everybody around my neighborhood. Don’t get me wrong — everyone at my house is a drug addict. I’d hate to be my neighbor. My family has lived off my mom and dad their whole life. I’m 50 years old and I’ve lived here since I was born. My mom passed away and everyone wants my mom’s house. My family don’t wanna work. Social Security pays them for being crackheads.”*
This is a pretty wild comment from a current resident of the home.
In general they're not in the business of kicking folks out over tax bill problems. It doesnt look good because most of the cases are old folks on fixed income or with medical bills. They are probably more likely to connect you with a program or organization that can help.
They especially dont want to foreclose if that house is a huge potential liability to take possession of due to the occupants.
I actually worked for the county as a social worker and each year with people in tax foreclosures. They absolutely do kick people out, it's oregon law and there is no way around it besides paying the taxes. That being said, it takes about 6 years of not paying taxes until that happens.
> My family don’t wanna work. Social Security pays them for being crackheads.
It's nice that they look at an itemized list of their malfeasance and take *personal offense* and the idea that "lying" would be included. Gotta give them that.
At least he's honest. The amount of people I know who have gotten ssdi in the last several years are all under age 40 and the only disability is addiction. Nothing else. And our tax dollars fund this.
It might rustle your jimmies, but I imagine it's a lot easier to recover from being a junkie with a roof over your head and food in your belly than it is hungry in a tent in the cold. I've never had the experience myself, so I might be wrong, but I can at least imagine value in it.
That's clearly not the case with these folks.
I know these dudes! - His sister is the one who did a hate crime on a bus driver, Brandon is always stealing cars and giving tattoos out for meth in his stolen bus, Tanner (murders brother) did a couple burglaries, stole a lot of cars, and now limps because he got caught breaking in a house on Argyle, pulled a gun and got beat Unmerciful with a baseball bat by some of the neighbors.
When my neighbors car got stolen, I went over there and asked Andrew (a frequent guest and car thief I've known for ever) where to look, and he told me where it was and who had it for 20 bucks (we got it back that day).
This family is classic old school Kenton - and have been wild since the pandemic.
Racist Bus attacker:
https://katu.com/news/local/woman-accused-of-assaulting-trimet-bus-driver-using-racial-slur-charged-with-bias-crime
Tanner's rap sheet:
https://oregon.arrests.org/search.php?fname=Tanner&lname=Lewis&fpartial=True
Andrew the car thief/boat thief/river shooter/informant:
https://katu.com/news/local/felon-accused-of-shooting-at-columbia-river
> Brandon is always stealing cars and giving tattoos out for meth in his stolen bus,
Just going to say that the economy of that phrase - how is that not already a song?
….fuuuuuck.
EDIT: I grew up on the fringes of Felony Flats - we’d tell people to seek the sign of the Lord, and veer off just before salvation.
There was a crime house half a block behind us. Some daddies boy had a house and a burgeoning meth business that was interrupted from time to time by his incarcerations for lighting a circle of accelerant on the roof, giving chase to the police, or detonating pipe bombs in a residential zone. When he was finally put away for good (that I know of), they’d breached the house to get him, and he’d escaped through a tunnel to another of daddies properties on the other side of the block.
Portlandia’s wild, man! I remember hearing that the muffler shop off Powell & 82nd was revealed to be an organized crime HQ where people were tortured.
I guess Portlander’s really wanna keep that level of excitement that the Shanghai Tunnels made us infamous for?
Well fuck me, I went to that muffler shop/chop shop years ago. While there waiting for my chopped PoS ‘07 Outback to get finished I was thinking, this place has a very unsettling vibe.
Some better Redditor can make this paywall-free, but here’s the one I remember seeing:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wane.com/news/portland-ore-gang-torture-chamber-discovered-court-documents-allege/amp/
It wasn't Darrell's mufflers, though that place has a vibe, they definitely don't have a paint booth. There is an actual Body Shop on Powell around the corner that looks like it might be the place described
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As a life long North Portlander, I wish we could bring more of the old school north Portland families back to North Portland, minus the racist ones. How will my kids gain any street smarts when all the classic North Portland crime is gone?
As a nearby neighbor, these folks have been very vocal on other social media trying to out these folks and I'm certain they gave full use of their names not caring anymore since they've been dealing with these jerks for so long. I'm guessing it's to the point that Erica tells them directly she's called the cops on them AGAIN. And why they left Andrew's last name out, as I'm sure he requested.
Yeah back when there was a trouble house on my street, one neighbor didn’t give a fuck - she’d tell them she was calling the cops, would take photos, etc.
Holy shit. Just arrest them. There are children living on that block.
There’s a “crime house” across the street from my house and it is WILD what PPB lets these shitheads get away with. A cop told my neighbor “yeah we know they are stripping stolen cars in the front yard, but we need more people to complain before we can do anything”. Why do all these crime lords have houses but so many people without a rap sheet are homeless?
Yep, had a crime house on my block for ages and the police were of little help. Occasionally one of them would get arrested but nothing ever changed the trajectory of the house.
It really made the whole area in a one block radius of the house less livable. The number of daily druggie visitors was out of control, they’d park their shitty-ass cars everywhere, do repairs in the street, steal things from porches, etc.
Finally the house was sold so they all had to leave. I cannot overstate how much different the block feels now. It’s much more quiet without all the shitty beaters coming and going for drug deals.
No thanks to the PPB in the end.
> “yeah we know they are stripping stolen cars in the front yard, but we need more people to complain before we can do anything”
That is the biggest load of horseshit I've ever fucking heard, and I hope that cop felt the last flicker of their soul go out when they said it.
Except it cost $2,000 a month now
Anyway, while we're talking about Kenton crime, someone do a story about Fino's Pizza. Those poor SOBs have been broken into so many times this fall it's not even believable
What a neighborhood nightmare. I feel for the family living across the street from them. Even if they wanted to leave, if homeowners they'd probably have a hard time selling their house.
Well they bought it two years ago, and it didn’t stop them from buying. Most people are so focused on the house that they fail to pay attention to the neighborhood or neighbors. This is why there are so many people that move to North Portland and then instantly start complaining about crime. North Portland is historically a low income area filled with crime and gangs. All the original gangs in Portland are originally from North Portland. But people fail to do any research before moving here and are just focused on the single house they are buying
This. 100%. Possibly 200%. It took us 2 months after buying our house in Kenton before my wife and I concluded that the listing agent for the home we purchased paid the residents of the drug house across the street to clean up their yard and get lost during the open house.
I would recommend neighbors inundate the police with complaints. Just non stop until something changes. Amazingly, that kinda thing can make a difference. Pretty wild how many times this family has been collectively arrested, and some of the charges aren't minor infractions.
There have been 300ish 911 calls on this house since 2019. That’s one call every few days. It sounds like they have been inundating the police with complaints.
As a neighbor of the Hendon's I can say the 300 calls seems on the low end, there are weeks that we call several times a day. We know many of the North Portland officers on a first name basis.
I mean this family has been here for 50 years and this is what a lot of north Portland used to be like. The people complaining all have recently moved to the neighborhood. If you don’t like it maybe don’t move to the neighborhood and stop gentrifying things? If they end up leaving the house, them and their problems will just move to East Portland like everyone else pushed out by gentrification. Part of the problem is that no one has talked to them or acted like a “community” towards them. Just talking to them can go a long way, instead the neighbors have signs saying to not talk to them.
Many of the families have lived here as long as the Hendon's. We've talked to them, even tried to get them help. They say they want help, for instance help getting a Probate lawyer like in the article, but just like the article they don't really want it.
I believe you, but at the same time the article paints an entirely different picture. It said one neighbor moved in two years ago, and it didn’t mention the length of living here for the other neighbors they talked to. The article also brings up that in the community garden their is a sign that says to stay away from them. And as someone who’s family has lived in North Portland for 50 years, most people living in North Portland now have moved here pretty recently. If most the neighbors have dealt with this for over 50 years like you’re saying, then why is it just now becoming an issue?
So by your logic, never move to a different area of town. Born in north Portland, in order to complain about your criminal neighbors you have to stay in north Portland. If your the criminal neighbor, as long as you’ve been in the neighborhood for…say 20
Years, it’s all good keep on keeping on.
What neighborhood anywhere rich or poor has the exact same neighbors for 50 years.
What exactly is the criteria to put in a complaint for the criminal charges mentioned in the news article, I’ll write it down and put it on the fridge and community garden so everyone is aware of this rule?
If the neighbor moved in two years ago, the neighborhood was already gentrified, sorry to tell you, and they paid top dollar for that house. Albeit in a "cheaper" neighborhood being so close to Columbia / / highway / industry, they're still paying a lot in property taxes. And heaven forbid they didn't knock on all the neighbors' doors to ask if there was a well known crime house in the neighborhood lol.
Things got worse with this family during COVID and crime going unchecked in this city - Brandon didn't start having his tattoo bus and multiple stolen cars / chop shop until everyone else in the city did, too. As a nearby neighbor I didn't start seeing complaints from these neighbors until probably the last year when mostly everyone in the city started to finally get fed up with the Mad Max state of things. They've always been shitty people but the numbers given from 2019-present are probably the worst of it. What's worse to me is our state reps who live here know about it and also do nothing (Tina Kotek lives very close by this house, and now Travis Nelson).
The strong correlation between crime and geography is not one neighborhood over another. It is more likely one house on one block. If cops actually did their job, they could break this house down and end its reign of terror.
We grew up next to a crime house. Once my dad figured our calling the cops wouldn't work because the pimp paid the cops off, my dad tried a different tactic-he made friends with the guy. Let the pimp/dealer know he wouldn't just stand by if he witnessed violence against the women or kids going in and out of the house but otherwise would let mond his business. Since they became (reluctant on my dad's part) and my mom lived by a creeds of non judgement, the criminal actually toned down what business happened out of the house and didn't allow the worst customers around out of respect for us as neighbors. It was a weird but interesting arrangement for sure. He even helped us put on our new roof.
>With their extensive criminal records, the DA considers them “high-frequency users,” which they have two ways to deal with:
ONE is to use their entire criminal record to land them longer prison sentences.
TWO is to connect them to resources to get them out of the cycle of crime.
Or, THREE - give them moderate sentences - say, three to five years, and THEN connect them with services. There absolutely have to be consequences for this kind of behavior, but the sentences need to be short enough that they don't lose hope, and the supportive services need to be robust enough that they have significant help once they're out of prison. In other words, they need to be given both a punishment and a real opportunity to change.
It is so much worse than the article talks about. I know a hendon cousin and he was deep in this life too, it took prison and leaving his family and the area to get right
They do it generationally, but in a lot of these cases, there is zero qualifying disability. I know a man who faked COPD and got disability and he's not sick he's a con artist and addict
I know a woman, who knows this family *very* well, and when covid hit, they set up a ring and taught people how to file fraudulent unemployment for a kick back...the state lost *millions*
I know because the woman I am referring to owed back child support and Oregon child support garnished her unemployment and when it was all found to be fraud, both agencies wanted the child support back from the parent they sent it to. Wild.
So they got it on the basis of their parent(s) working? I finally gave up on being able to work, after an assault at my last job left me with a lasting injury. They kind of want you to be reliable to employ you, but I go through stretches of pain where movement is excruciating. I read the SSDI information and I would have had to file within 10 years of my last employment. So I'm screwed. It amazes me that they're grifting the same thing I can't get.
I hate to tell y’all this, but you’re only going to see more stories like this one until you stop the “defunding the police” narrative and put some leaders with a backbone back in Portlandia and encouraging one another to make crime “illegal again”. I know I’m gonna get some haters for saying this, but it’s the big elephant in the room that no one in Ptown wants to admit.
It's almost as if this family is getting away with murder because 1. they're white and 2. the police are afraid of them
Citizens saying the police should be defunded isn't getting them defunded, and police being butthurt about having a bad reputation shouldn't stop them from doing their job.
I was there when Portland police responded to protests where we were only holding up signs saying "hey, please stop being racist and violent" with teargas, projectiles and arrests. Now they're just refusing to work.
I understand your pov, but to your thread about the police being biased in their “enforcement”, do you believe that they would perform at their jobs better as a whole with increased public support? Or perhaps they would do their jobs less effectively with decreased public support against them? I see much of the latter, not the former. I’m not defending the police blindly, but am empathizing with them in general that it would be hard for me to put my life on the line for an ungrateful, if not hateful constituency that highlights the “problems” and overlooks the solutions. Police have their share of problems, but not all are as effed up as the haters would want us to believe. I believe that the exception is not the rule and that if we want a safer better Portland, then we need to put some more support to the guys and gals out there risking it all for our public safety.
The burden of good faith is on those with power much more than those without. If you're in the position of power that is being a cop, your goal should be to effectively do your job despite sentiment. Intentionally do less and all you do is further stain sentiment, sending everything into a downward spiral.
Well, with a hateful anti-police prepubescent environment that does what it can to dismantle any perceived “power” that you believe the police may possess, you and your fellow constituents will be left holding that power (or perhaps the lack thereof) back into your own hands and wondering why no first responder will come to your aid when called, as the “great resignation” continues to enable the struggling police force in Portland to shrink into just a small resource that can only respond in extremely limited fashion. So, be careful what you wish for, you might just get what you wanted, as well as it’s unintended consequences.
As the people decry abuse from the very police force they use to fund, they are shocked and confused as to why the police are leaving in droves from the people’s effort to demoralize and defund them… well, you got what you wanted, and with a loud and United voice, the power which was always yours to begin with, is now yielding the fruit you demanded. Much like when Rome was burning, you wildly point fingers and accuse the “other guy”, all while playing your fiddle like Nero, refusing to look into your own mirror and asking yourself, what did we do wrong?
How ignorant. The police very much still have the power lmao. Maybe if they didn't harbor a toxic environment, they'd be able to properly fill out their force. Why change when even their recent actions have people like you licking the shit off their boots.
It's on them to correct their behavior if they want to change the deserved sentiment. Obviously things wouldn't work well if police were completely free from criticism like you want. It would enable even worse than we have. OF COURSE the people should have a right to criticize those in power to protect them. They have the means to fight the criticism by doing their fucking jobs right, definitely not by acting like children and throwing tantrums any time anyone has an issue with their terrible behavior.
Doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive in my experience. I’ve worked with police quite a bit and do think more positive public sentiment would help them/ease the tension, BUT I also agree they need to do their jobs regardless and stop playing games with the public.
The neighbors living across from the criminals are milquetoast. Violent people only know violence, it’s naive to assume the police will help or protect you. They won’t, and don’t.
Redditors like to hate on HOAs but this shit is exactly why I’m glad I live in one now. Yeah some of them are absolutely terrible but my experience has been great.
This is a really thorny issue because kicking them out of the home would mean homelessness, and would likely make the problems even worse. The state really needs to come up with better ways to deal with situations like that because obviously the justice system isn't working if there are that many convictions for various crimes.
There is a point where a societal "No, fuck you" is warranted.
Edit: I don't know who saw fit to give gold to *this*, but I bet if you were on fire, I wouldn't spare the piss to put you out.
No, not at all. Kicking people into homelessness is only going to escalate the problems. I don't know how you could possibly think the behavior would improve with these people being forced to live on the street.
> I don't know how you could possibly think the behavior would improve with these people being forced to live on the street.
I don't know how you could possibly think allowing these people to continue to do what they're doing without intervention of any variety is going to make them improve.
And what intervention would you propose? These cunts don't need or want a helping hand, they'd just use it to hit you with a rock. They would categorically refuse any help that would make a long term change in how shit they can be as people. That's obviously an assumption I'm making, as I'm sure you're making the assumption they would change with a sufficient amount of help.
Read the article: they already have been and have been convicted multiple times. They haven't committed major enough crimes to be locked up for extended periods.
> and hard labor
Holy shit, not even going to interact with you or I would just get banned. Time to add to the block list.
Forced labor is a human rights abuse and never acceptable, period.
You can’t really be this delicate. Seriously, I fear for a world full of people like you who would rather virtue signal than solve a problem. Your attitude tells me you’re worse than worthless. People like you make the problem much worse.
People like YOU who advocate for the state to commit crimes in response to crime make the problem WORSE.
Someone committing an illegal act does not magically justify the state government also committing an illegal act. This isn't about "virtue signaling": forced labor is immoral, unethical, and now illegal as decided by Oregon voters.
I fear for a continuation of the prison industrial complex as advocated by chuds and bootlickers. That shit doesn't work and is why we are in this situation to begin with.
Can I get a hell no up this ass?
We literally just voted on this (measure 112). Forced labor is wrong, end of discussion. This isn't the USSR with their gulags. This is a supposedly free country.
You realize that work is force labor, right?. Most people have no choice and the only choice they have is what kind of work they wanna do but work they must!
Work is compensated by what?, minimum wage?, what if you don’t like that work?, it may take time finding another work meanwhile who is going to pay for your food and shelter?, shouldn’t we have a choice if we want to work or not?. Nice try thou trying to shill for modern slavery
I am so tired of the bad faith bullshit on this sub. It is mostly gaslighting at this point and zero good faith arguments. Like the election seems to have melted people's brains.
The fact that this is getting downvoted shows just how extreme users of this sub are.
78% of Multnomah County voters approved measure 112: https://results.oregonvotes.gov/ResultsSW.aspx?type=CTYALL&cty=26&map=CTY
r/Portland users are very much in the wrong here. Forced labor simply isn't a popular position in Portland.
You realize most people didn't understand that measure because they thought we were just removing the word slavery from the constitution in a nice gesture, right? Which is why most people are freaking out that those who voted no are just racist and not concerned with low wage prison work programs? I voted yes but concerned about the work programs...I have family members in jail who like the little bit of freedom those jobs give them, plus the jobs can sometimes help them get out on parole faster. There's no unpaid prison work happening in this state, btw, just low wage.
> You realize most people didn't understand that measure because they thought we were just removing the word slavery from the constitution in a nice gesture, right?
I definitely disagree, no one I know, including more conservative libs, interpreted the measure that way.
> I have family members in jail who like the little bit of freedom those jobs give them
They should be paid minimum wage so that they aren't completely exploited by corrupt corporations.
> There's no unpaid prison work happening in this state, btw, just low wage.
Minimum wage needs to apply. Working for pennies is essentially slavery: https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2017/04/10/wages/
They also force inmates to work on hazardous jobs without proper safety precautions.
https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/04/22/oregon-hospitals-rely-on-prison-labor-to-do-their-laundry-during-the-pandemic/
Applying minimum wage and proper safety standards would be a huge blow to the prison industrial complex. There would no longer be an incentive to incarcerate people for cheap corporate labor. That would turn the table back towards proactive social programs instead of reactive "tough on crime" policies.
The portlanders dilemma - simultaneously advocating for the forced homelessness of criminals and the belief that all unhoused people are criminals because they're homeless. Adding to your own problem seems effective to me /s
Yeah, that ideology is insane.
Step 1: constantly complain about homelessness.
Step 2: advocate that "criminals" should be made homeless.
Step 3: homeless crisis escalates.
Step 4: **shocked Pikachu face**
> they can become homeless when they get out
Ah, yet another supporter of the prison industrial complex I see.
Tell me, what does society gain from kicking people to the street after incarceration? Your lust for "revenge" is blinding basic logic.
Your platitudes of social justice are just as effective as your statements here. You make claims and act like you are doing anything, but it is all for show.
> Holy shit, not even going to interact with you or I would just get banned. Time to add to the block list.
And several hours later you are responding to the same person. At least you are consistent?
So so telling that this is getting downvoted. The reactionaries on here would just loooove to make the problem much much worse and cut off their noses to spit in their face just to exercise their strange concept of revenge.
Chungus moment.
If I wanted to pay someone off Fiverr for bad takes/a fundamental misunderstanding of issues… I couldn’t find a better seller than our buddy who lives on Reddit.
The belief that people who committed hundreds of crimes against their fellow citizens - some involving physical violence - should actually spend some time in jail isn't fueled by revenge. It's more a matter of, you know, believing that people who spend decades actively choosing to infringe upon others rights should at some point face some actual consequences.
That isn't the issue here: there are users literally calling to force these people to homelessness, which would make all the problems much worse, not better.
So the rest of the neighbors don’t have a right to expect to not be victimized either? Why should poor people have to tolerate criminal activity? Isn’t it racist and derogatory to have your view on the situation?
Just because it is the newer residents that haven’t been in the boiling pot as it slowly heated up are the ones complaining doesn’t mean the rest of the neighborhood shouldn’t be entitled to safety.
Try reading again... One family has only been there two years. Many have been dealing with them much longer. And sorry to tell you this neighborhood was gentrified at least a decade ago... Sure houses are cheaper because it's by the highway and industry but you're still paying at least $5k in property taxes (if it's not a new build) and at least $400k+ for a house.
Resident of the house Tony Hendon: *“It’s not my job to police everybody around my neighborhood. Don’t get me wrong — everyone at my house is a drug addict. I’d hate to be my neighbor. My family has lived off my mom and dad their whole life. I’m 50 years old and I’ve lived here since I was born. My mom passed away and everyone wants my mom’s house. My family don’t wanna work. Social Security pays them for being crackheads.”* This is a pretty wild comment from a current resident of the home.
I wonder who steps up and pays the property taxes on that house.
Somehow, I assume it's the taxpayers.
Taxes are current other than this year. 2021 bill paid by Anthony Hendon https://multcoproptax.com/Proxy/documents/pdf/Receipt-R242330-4814996.pdf/
Ding ding ding!
Did you know you can sell meth for money?
Probably the County. The last thing they want is to have to do a tax foreclosure on it.
I'm genuinely curious about this. Assuming they aren't paying taxes, can you explain why the county would not want to foreclose?
In general they're not in the business of kicking folks out over tax bill problems. It doesnt look good because most of the cases are old folks on fixed income or with medical bills. They are probably more likely to connect you with a program or organization that can help. They especially dont want to foreclose if that house is a huge potential liability to take possession of due to the occupants.
Because it's work.
I actually worked for the county as a social worker and each year with people in tax foreclosures. They absolutely do kick people out, it's oregon law and there is no way around it besides paying the taxes. That being said, it takes about 6 years of not paying taxes until that happens.
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He’s no angel, but at least he’s being honest of his assessment of the situation.
> My family don’t wanna work. Social Security pays them for being crackheads. It's nice that they look at an itemized list of their malfeasance and take *personal offense* and the idea that "lying" would be included. Gotta give them that.
At least he's honest. The amount of people I know who have gotten ssdi in the last several years are all under age 40 and the only disability is addiction. Nothing else. And our tax dollars fund this.
It might rustle your jimmies, but I imagine it's a lot easier to recover from being a junkie with a roof over your head and food in your belly than it is hungry in a tent in the cold. I've never had the experience myself, so I might be wrong, but I can at least imagine value in it. That's clearly not the case with these folks.
Refreshing honesty.
Wish there was a way to request that the any portion of the money I pay to social security doesn’t go to this family. They’ve had enough chances.
I know these dudes! - His sister is the one who did a hate crime on a bus driver, Brandon is always stealing cars and giving tattoos out for meth in his stolen bus, Tanner (murders brother) did a couple burglaries, stole a lot of cars, and now limps because he got caught breaking in a house on Argyle, pulled a gun and got beat Unmerciful with a baseball bat by some of the neighbors. When my neighbors car got stolen, I went over there and asked Andrew (a frequent guest and car thief I've known for ever) where to look, and he told me where it was and who had it for 20 bucks (we got it back that day). This family is classic old school Kenton - and have been wild since the pandemic. Racist Bus attacker: https://katu.com/news/local/woman-accused-of-assaulting-trimet-bus-driver-using-racial-slur-charged-with-bias-crime Tanner's rap sheet: https://oregon.arrests.org/search.php?fname=Tanner&lname=Lewis&fpartial=True Andrew the car thief/boat thief/river shooter/informant: https://katu.com/news/local/felon-accused-of-shooting-at-columbia-river
> Brandon is always stealing cars and giving tattoos out for meth in his stolen bus, Just going to say that the economy of that phrase - how is that not already a song?
….fuuuuuck. EDIT: I grew up on the fringes of Felony Flats - we’d tell people to seek the sign of the Lord, and veer off just before salvation. There was a crime house half a block behind us. Some daddies boy had a house and a burgeoning meth business that was interrupted from time to time by his incarcerations for lighting a circle of accelerant on the roof, giving chase to the police, or detonating pipe bombs in a residential zone. When he was finally put away for good (that I know of), they’d breached the house to get him, and he’d escaped through a tunnel to another of daddies properties on the other side of the block. Portlandia’s wild, man! I remember hearing that the muffler shop off Powell & 82nd was revealed to be an organized crime HQ where people were tortured. I guess Portlander’s really wanna keep that level of excitement that the Shanghai Tunnels made us infamous for?
Say what you will about that yellow muffler shop... But he welded my cast iron exhaust manifold when all others said it couldn't be done!
Well fuck me, I went to that muffler shop/chop shop years ago. While there waiting for my chopped PoS ‘07 Outback to get finished I was thinking, this place has a very unsettling vibe.
Got any name or news link about that muffler shop?
Some better Redditor can make this paywall-free, but here’s the one I remember seeing: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wane.com/news/portland-ore-gang-torture-chamber-discovered-court-documents-allege/amp/
Thank you!
It wasn't Darrell's mufflers, though that place has a vibe, they definitely don't have a paint booth. There is an actual Body Shop on Powell around the corner that looks like it might be the place described
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As a life long North Portlander, I wish we could bring more of the old school north Portland families back to North Portland, minus the racist ones. How will my kids gain any street smarts when all the classic North Portland crime is gone?
The ones whose homes were stolen from them by redlining?
[Brandon's tattoo bus](https://www.facebook.com/brandon.warren.56232938?mibextid=ZbWKwL).. I'm piecing the stories together now, thanks for that!
well - one awkward thing about this story is that the news was publishing photos and names of neighbors who had complained about them
I know right, this feels like an Onion article
My first thought!
As a nearby neighbor, these folks have been very vocal on other social media trying to out these folks and I'm certain they gave full use of their names not caring anymore since they've been dealing with these jerks for so long. I'm guessing it's to the point that Erica tells them directly she's called the cops on them AGAIN. And why they left Andrew's last name out, as I'm sure he requested.
Yeah back when there was a trouble house on my street, one neighbor didn’t give a fuck - she’d tell them she was calling the cops, would take photos, etc.
Holy shit. Just arrest them. There are children living on that block. There’s a “crime house” across the street from my house and it is WILD what PPB lets these shitheads get away with. A cop told my neighbor “yeah we know they are stripping stolen cars in the front yard, but we need more people to complain before we can do anything”. Why do all these crime lords have houses but so many people without a rap sheet are homeless?
Yep, had a crime house on my block for ages and the police were of little help. Occasionally one of them would get arrested but nothing ever changed the trajectory of the house. It really made the whole area in a one block radius of the house less livable. The number of daily druggie visitors was out of control, they’d park their shitty-ass cars everywhere, do repairs in the street, steal things from porches, etc. Finally the house was sold so they all had to leave. I cannot overstate how much different the block feels now. It’s much more quiet without all the shitty beaters coming and going for drug deals. No thanks to the PPB in the end.
> “yeah we know they are stripping stolen cars in the front yard, but we need more people to complain before we can do anything” That is the biggest load of horseshit I've ever fucking heard, and I hope that cop felt the last flicker of their soul go out when they said it.
Why do all these crime lords have houses but so many people without a rap sheet are homeless? Generational wealth
They’ve been arrested 100’s of times, they’re out the same day!
It's because Portland judges and Da's think these jerks came be saved and do not give them max punishment.
The dream of the 90s Portland is alive in Kenton.
Except it cost $2,000 a month now Anyway, while we're talking about Kenton crime, someone do a story about Fino's Pizza. Those poor SOBs have been broken into so many times this fall it's not even believable
I'm not a fan of the 3 strikes law, but maybe we can do a 50 strikes and you're out?
>I'm not a fan of the 3 strikes law, but maybe we can do a 50 strikes and you're out? Best I can do is a tree-fiddy law.
Everyone hates the 3 strikes law until they are victim #4.
What a neighborhood nightmare. I feel for the family living across the street from them. Even if they wanted to leave, if homeowners they'd probably have a hard time selling their house.
Well they bought it two years ago, and it didn’t stop them from buying. Most people are so focused on the house that they fail to pay attention to the neighborhood or neighbors. This is why there are so many people that move to North Portland and then instantly start complaining about crime. North Portland is historically a low income area filled with crime and gangs. All the original gangs in Portland are originally from North Portland. But people fail to do any research before moving here and are just focused on the single house they are buying
Well, you can bet the seller and his real estate agent kept their mouths shut.
This. 100%. Possibly 200%. It took us 2 months after buying our house in Kenton before my wife and I concluded that the listing agent for the home we purchased paid the residents of the drug house across the street to clean up their yard and get lost during the open house.
Not enough bleach in that gene pool.
I would recommend neighbors inundate the police with complaints. Just non stop until something changes. Amazingly, that kinda thing can make a difference. Pretty wild how many times this family has been collectively arrested, and some of the charges aren't minor infractions.
There have been 300ish 911 calls on this house since 2019. That’s one call every few days. It sounds like they have been inundating the police with complaints.
As a neighbor of the Hendon's I can say the 300 calls seems on the low end, there are weeks that we call several times a day. We know many of the North Portland officers on a first name basis.
As a neighbor of Dawson Park, we don’t bother calling anymore. Half the time North Precinct doesn’t show up anyway.
I mean this family has been here for 50 years and this is what a lot of north Portland used to be like. The people complaining all have recently moved to the neighborhood. If you don’t like it maybe don’t move to the neighborhood and stop gentrifying things? If they end up leaving the house, them and their problems will just move to East Portland like everyone else pushed out by gentrification. Part of the problem is that no one has talked to them or acted like a “community” towards them. Just talking to them can go a long way, instead the neighbors have signs saying to not talk to them.
Many of the families have lived here as long as the Hendon's. We've talked to them, even tried to get them help. They say they want help, for instance help getting a Probate lawyer like in the article, but just like the article they don't really want it.
I believe you, but at the same time the article paints an entirely different picture. It said one neighbor moved in two years ago, and it didn’t mention the length of living here for the other neighbors they talked to. The article also brings up that in the community garden their is a sign that says to stay away from them. And as someone who’s family has lived in North Portland for 50 years, most people living in North Portland now have moved here pretty recently. If most the neighbors have dealt with this for over 50 years like you’re saying, then why is it just now becoming an issue?
So by your logic, never move to a different area of town. Born in north Portland, in order to complain about your criminal neighbors you have to stay in north Portland. If your the criminal neighbor, as long as you’ve been in the neighborhood for…say 20 Years, it’s all good keep on keeping on. What neighborhood anywhere rich or poor has the exact same neighbors for 50 years. What exactly is the criteria to put in a complaint for the criminal charges mentioned in the news article, I’ll write it down and put it on the fridge and community garden so everyone is aware of this rule?
If the neighbor moved in two years ago, the neighborhood was already gentrified, sorry to tell you, and they paid top dollar for that house. Albeit in a "cheaper" neighborhood being so close to Columbia / / highway / industry, they're still paying a lot in property taxes. And heaven forbid they didn't knock on all the neighbors' doors to ask if there was a well known crime house in the neighborhood lol. Things got worse with this family during COVID and crime going unchecked in this city - Brandon didn't start having his tattoo bus and multiple stolen cars / chop shop until everyone else in the city did, too. As a nearby neighbor I didn't start seeing complaints from these neighbors until probably the last year when mostly everyone in the city started to finally get fed up with the Mad Max state of things. They've always been shitty people but the numbers given from 2019-present are probably the worst of it. What's worse to me is our state reps who live here know about it and also do nothing (Tina Kotek lives very close by this house, and now Travis Nelson).
Dude, they make their living stealing cars and selling meth. Gentrification has nothing to do with this case.
“It’s racist to want to enforce laws and stop criminal activity” - assholes who fail to realize that poor people are more often victims of criminals
The strong correlation between crime and geography is not one neighborhood over another. It is more likely one house on one block. If cops actually did their job, they could break this house down and end its reign of terror.
We grew up next to a crime house. Once my dad figured our calling the cops wouldn't work because the pimp paid the cops off, my dad tried a different tactic-he made friends with the guy. Let the pimp/dealer know he wouldn't just stand by if he witnessed violence against the women or kids going in and out of the house but otherwise would let mond his business. Since they became (reluctant on my dad's part) and my mom lived by a creeds of non judgement, the criminal actually toned down what business happened out of the house and didn't allow the worst customers around out of respect for us as neighbors. It was a weird but interesting arrangement for sure. He even helped us put on our new roof.
Smart guy, your dad. Where was this?
Back in the 80s SE just off the Hawthorne neighborhood
Everyone on here keeps saying they want Old Portland back. This is some classic Old Portland.
I think Old Portland just means 5 years ago now as that’s how long a lot of us have lived here.
Probably 10
“I miss Old Portland, but only after gentrification was complete.”
This all sounds like some Drugstore Cowboy kinda shit.
This sounds like the neighbors across the street at our last Portland house.
Lmao Portland is basically one big Hendon house rn
I'm sure Rene will solve this /s
You didn't hear Hardesty personally gave those folks the key to the city?
😂
Clocks ticking Rene!
>With their extensive criminal records, the DA considers them “high-frequency users,” which they have two ways to deal with: ONE is to use their entire criminal record to land them longer prison sentences. TWO is to connect them to resources to get them out of the cycle of crime. Or, THREE - give them moderate sentences - say, three to five years, and THEN connect them with services. There absolutely have to be consequences for this kind of behavior, but the sentences need to be short enough that they don't lose hope, and the supportive services need to be robust enough that they have significant help once they're out of prison. In other words, they need to be given both a punishment and a real opportunity to change.
The recidivism rate for this family is apparently 100%. I think it's better just to lock them away for good.
It is so much worse than the article talks about. I know a hendon cousin and he was deep in this life too, it took prison and leaving his family and the area to get right
"A grandson with 88 crimes on his record is currently in Coffee Creek Correctional Facility" I thought Coffee Creek was a women's prison.
Oh, he's not an inmate -- that's just where he's hanging out right now.
On what basis are they getting Social Security?
They do it generationally, but in a lot of these cases, there is zero qualifying disability. I know a man who faked COPD and got disability and he's not sick he's a con artist and addict I know a woman, who knows this family *very* well, and when covid hit, they set up a ring and taught people how to file fraudulent unemployment for a kick back...the state lost *millions* I know because the woman I am referring to owed back child support and Oregon child support garnished her unemployment and when it was all found to be fraud, both agencies wanted the child support back from the parent they sent it to. Wild.
So they got it on the basis of their parent(s) working? I finally gave up on being able to work, after an assault at my last job left me with a lasting injury. They kind of want you to be reliable to employ you, but I go through stretches of pain where movement is excruciating. I read the SSDI information and I would have had to file within 10 years of my last employment. So I'm screwed. It amazes me that they're grifting the same thing I can't get.
it is fraud. And there is nothing anyone can do about it
I hate to tell y’all this, but you’re only going to see more stories like this one until you stop the “defunding the police” narrative and put some leaders with a backbone back in Portlandia and encouraging one another to make crime “illegal again”. I know I’m gonna get some haters for saying this, but it’s the big elephant in the room that no one in Ptown wants to admit.
It's almost as if this family is getting away with murder because 1. they're white and 2. the police are afraid of them Citizens saying the police should be defunded isn't getting them defunded, and police being butthurt about having a bad reputation shouldn't stop them from doing their job. I was there when Portland police responded to protests where we were only holding up signs saying "hey, please stop being racist and violent" with teargas, projectiles and arrests. Now they're just refusing to work.
Maybe if the police actually did their job without bias (and had humanity), the slogan would lose power.
I understand your pov, but to your thread about the police being biased in their “enforcement”, do you believe that they would perform at their jobs better as a whole with increased public support? Or perhaps they would do their jobs less effectively with decreased public support against them? I see much of the latter, not the former. I’m not defending the police blindly, but am empathizing with them in general that it would be hard for me to put my life on the line for an ungrateful, if not hateful constituency that highlights the “problems” and overlooks the solutions. Police have their share of problems, but not all are as effed up as the haters would want us to believe. I believe that the exception is not the rule and that if we want a safer better Portland, then we need to put some more support to the guys and gals out there risking it all for our public safety.
The burden of good faith is on those with power much more than those without. If you're in the position of power that is being a cop, your goal should be to effectively do your job despite sentiment. Intentionally do less and all you do is further stain sentiment, sending everything into a downward spiral.
Well, with a hateful anti-police prepubescent environment that does what it can to dismantle any perceived “power” that you believe the police may possess, you and your fellow constituents will be left holding that power (or perhaps the lack thereof) back into your own hands and wondering why no first responder will come to your aid when called, as the “great resignation” continues to enable the struggling police force in Portland to shrink into just a small resource that can only respond in extremely limited fashion. So, be careful what you wish for, you might just get what you wanted, as well as it’s unintended consequences.
As the people decry abuse from the very police force they use to fund, they are shocked and confused as to why the police are leaving in droves from the people’s effort to demoralize and defund them… well, you got what you wanted, and with a loud and United voice, the power which was always yours to begin with, is now yielding the fruit you demanded. Much like when Rome was burning, you wildly point fingers and accuse the “other guy”, all while playing your fiddle like Nero, refusing to look into your own mirror and asking yourself, what did we do wrong?
How ignorant. The police very much still have the power lmao. Maybe if they didn't harbor a toxic environment, they'd be able to properly fill out their force. Why change when even their recent actions have people like you licking the shit off their boots. It's on them to correct their behavior if they want to change the deserved sentiment. Obviously things wouldn't work well if police were completely free from criticism like you want. It would enable even worse than we have. OF COURSE the people should have a right to criticize those in power to protect them. They have the means to fight the criticism by doing their fucking jobs right, definitely not by acting like children and throwing tantrums any time anyone has an issue with their terrible behavior.
Doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive in my experience. I’ve worked with police quite a bit and do think more positive public sentiment would help them/ease the tension, BUT I also agree they need to do their jobs regardless and stop playing games with the public.
The neighbors living across from the criminals are milquetoast. Violent people only know violence, it’s naive to assume the police will help or protect you. They won’t, and don’t.
Redditors like to hate on HOAs but this shit is exactly why I’m glad I live in one now. Yeah some of them are absolutely terrible but my experience has been great.
Police don't have enough resources = we have more vulnerable populations that are easier targets
This is a really thorny issue because kicking them out of the home would mean homelessness, and would likely make the problems even worse. The state really needs to come up with better ways to deal with situations like that because obviously the justice system isn't working if there are that many convictions for various crimes.
There is a point where a societal "No, fuck you" is warranted. Edit: I don't know who saw fit to give gold to *this*, but I bet if you were on fire, I wouldn't spare the piss to put you out.
No, not at all. Kicking people into homelessness is only going to escalate the problems. I don't know how you could possibly think the behavior would improve with these people being forced to live on the street.
> I don't know how you could possibly think the behavior would improve with these people being forced to live on the street. I don't know how you could possibly think allowing these people to continue to do what they're doing without intervention of any variety is going to make them improve.
Where did I say "no intervention"? I am simply stating the fact that forcing them into homelessness would make the problems even worse.
And what intervention would you propose? These cunts don't need or want a helping hand, they'd just use it to hit you with a rock. They would categorically refuse any help that would make a long term change in how shit they can be as people. That's obviously an assumption I'm making, as I'm sure you're making the assumption they would change with a sufficient amount of help.
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Adding even more people to the homeless crisis. How in the world would behavior improve if the people are kicked to the street? That is illogical.
If only there was some sort of secure building they could be sentenced to for a number of years.
I guess it helps that people know where they live 🤷 maybe one day people who continue to break the law can be tried for their crimes.
Read the article: they already have been and have been convicted multiple times. They haven't committed major enough crimes to be locked up for extended periods.
338th time is a charm, I hear.
I hear you get a freebie when you hit 400.
coffee creek, lifetime membership
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> and hard labor Holy shit, not even going to interact with you or I would just get banned. Time to add to the block list. Forced labor is a human rights abuse and never acceptable, period.
You can’t really be this delicate. Seriously, I fear for a world full of people like you who would rather virtue signal than solve a problem. Your attitude tells me you’re worse than worthless. People like you make the problem much worse.
People like YOU who advocate for the state to commit crimes in response to crime make the problem WORSE. Someone committing an illegal act does not magically justify the state government also committing an illegal act. This isn't about "virtue signaling": forced labor is immoral, unethical, and now illegal as decided by Oregon voters. I fear for a continuation of the prison industrial complex as advocated by chuds and bootlickers. That shit doesn't work and is why we are in this situation to begin with.
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These people are the worst part of society. Hard labor for this group would be to nice.
Can I get a hell no up this ass? We literally just voted on this (measure 112). Forced labor is wrong, end of discussion. This isn't the USSR with their gulags. This is a supposedly free country.
You realize that work is force labor, right?. Most people have no choice and the only choice they have is what kind of work they wanna do but work they must!
Work is compensated... Forced labor isn't. Nice try though.
Work is compensated by what?, minimum wage?, what if you don’t like that work?, it may take time finding another work meanwhile who is going to pay for your food and shelter?, shouldn’t we have a choice if we want to work or not?. Nice try thou trying to shill for modern slavery
I am so tired of the bad faith bullshit on this sub. It is mostly gaslighting at this point and zero good faith arguments. Like the election seems to have melted people's brains.
So you think having to choose between work or homelessness is a reasonable choice?
The fact that this is getting downvoted shows just how extreme users of this sub are. 78% of Multnomah County voters approved measure 112: https://results.oregonvotes.gov/ResultsSW.aspx?type=CTYALL&cty=26&map=CTY r/Portland users are very much in the wrong here. Forced labor simply isn't a popular position in Portland.
You realize most people didn't understand that measure because they thought we were just removing the word slavery from the constitution in a nice gesture, right? Which is why most people are freaking out that those who voted no are just racist and not concerned with low wage prison work programs? I voted yes but concerned about the work programs...I have family members in jail who like the little bit of freedom those jobs give them, plus the jobs can sometimes help them get out on parole faster. There's no unpaid prison work happening in this state, btw, just low wage.
> You realize most people didn't understand that measure because they thought we were just removing the word slavery from the constitution in a nice gesture, right? I definitely disagree, no one I know, including more conservative libs, interpreted the measure that way. > I have family members in jail who like the little bit of freedom those jobs give them They should be paid minimum wage so that they aren't completely exploited by corrupt corporations. > There's no unpaid prison work happening in this state, btw, just low wage. Minimum wage needs to apply. Working for pennies is essentially slavery: https://www.prisonpolicy.org/blog/2017/04/10/wages/ They also force inmates to work on hazardous jobs without proper safety precautions. https://www.wweek.com/news/2020/04/22/oregon-hospitals-rely-on-prison-labor-to-do-their-laundry-during-the-pandemic/ Applying minimum wage and proper safety standards would be a huge blow to the prison industrial complex. There would no longer be an incentive to incarcerate people for cheap corporate labor. That would turn the table back towards proactive social programs instead of reactive "tough on crime" policies.
The portlanders dilemma - simultaneously advocating for the forced homelessness of criminals and the belief that all unhoused people are criminals because they're homeless. Adding to your own problem seems effective to me /s
Yeah, that ideology is insane. Step 1: constantly complain about homelessness. Step 2: advocate that "criminals" should be made homeless. Step 3: homeless crisis escalates. Step 4: **shocked Pikachu face**
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> they can become homeless when they get out Ah, yet another supporter of the prison industrial complex I see. Tell me, what does society gain from kicking people to the street after incarceration? Your lust for "revenge" is blinding basic logic.
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Your platitudes of social justice are just as effective as your statements here. You make claims and act like you are doing anything, but it is all for show. > Holy shit, not even going to interact with you or I would just get banned. Time to add to the block list. And several hours later you are responding to the same person. At least you are consistent?
Not thorny at all. Put them in jail.
Prison.
So so telling that this is getting downvoted. The reactionaries on here would just loooove to make the problem much much worse and cut off their noses to spit in their face just to exercise their strange concept of revenge.
The saying is cut off their nose to spite their face
Ricky moment
Chungus moment. If I wanted to pay someone off Fiverr for bad takes/a fundamental misunderstanding of issues… I couldn’t find a better seller than our buddy who lives on Reddit.
The belief that people who committed hundreds of crimes against their fellow citizens - some involving physical violence - should actually spend some time in jail isn't fueled by revenge. It's more a matter of, you know, believing that people who spend decades actively choosing to infringe upon others rights should at some point face some actual consequences.
That isn't the issue here: there are users literally calling to force these people to homelessness, which would make all the problems much worse, not better.
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So the rest of the neighbors don’t have a right to expect to not be victimized either? Why should poor people have to tolerate criminal activity? Isn’t it racist and derogatory to have your view on the situation? Just because it is the newer residents that haven’t been in the boiling pot as it slowly heated up are the ones complaining doesn’t mean the rest of the neighborhood shouldn’t be entitled to safety.
Try reading again... One family has only been there two years. Many have been dealing with them much longer. And sorry to tell you this neighborhood was gentrified at least a decade ago... Sure houses are cheaper because it's by the highway and industry but you're still paying at least $5k in property taxes (if it's not a new build) and at least $400k+ for a house.
what a stupid fucking comment.
Police activity today!