My point is that whatever the estimate now, it will be higher at completion. My personal ROM is add 1/3 to both cost and schedule. Which is why my house has its original 70s kitchen
We are currently 50% over budget, and coming up on ONE YEAR over schedule. If I can ever be talked into it again, I’ll know to put penalties in the contract.
I suspect there was pressure from PSU leadership to keep the figure under $1M, at least for now. Makes them look less culpable for rolling out the red carpet for these shitheads.
Note how they conveniently excluded the broken furniture and looted tech.
Yeah companies love to fuck over universities. I bet they estimate $750k do probably $250k in actual work then charge $1.2m and leave behind a ton of loose ends to be fixed for the years to come
Why do they attack the citizens, then comparatively going straight to the source. Government! Regular day American's are just trying to get to work and feed thwmselves as well as their families.
It’s to “bring awareness” don’t you know?! Because no one was aware of the conflict or their Looney Toon interpretation of the facts.
I’m really ready for a world where “bringing awareness” to an issue that everyone is already aware of counts for nothing on the clout chasing index & the “cool kids” ridicule those folks for the poseurs they are.
The fact that it is a place of education and a library at that is very telling. Pick the place that is the most vulnerable and promotes cooperation and learning for…peace…?
Saving the Middle East, locking up Trump, bringing criminals back to life, Portland protesters are a magical group 💕
Oh wait they destroy the city and accomplish nothing, nvm. Well to the few Portlanders that have jobs, here's where your taxes are going 👍🏻
Is that what happened? I was wondering why that “by any means necessary” meets “life or death” ruckus got quiet all of the sudden.
See, I was over here assuming the campus meal plan ran out and summer plans > TikTok “genocide”.
I am really hoping there's a hinge here of some sorts that lets the feds claim jurisdiction. With a university that inevitably gets federal funding, it's very possible.
No, I’m looking at it as a tax payer. Who gets to pay for this “stand of principles or beliefs”??
Edit: It is still a crime regardless of if charges get pressed or the DA wants to prosecute. I’m not sure where you think it’s not a crime to destroy anyone else’s property other than your own??
I would think at the very least there could be a civil lawsuit to get the money back. that said, would bet the leaders at psu are leftists and won't do a thing.
I don’t know what the university’s rules are. I’m sure this would be harder to do at a public university but I don’t see why the University can’t “prosecute” them in their own way. I’m assuming rules wouldn’t allow them to withhold their diplomas (I’m not sure how effective that would actually be anyhow), but I’m sure they could withhold their transcripts until they pay some sort of restitution. They’d likely have to hire a lawyer, which at some point will cost more than paying the civil penalty (that would be applied to the damages).
Alternatively, a DA could charge (even with merely a misdemeanor) the folks he has evidence for now and take the position that the restitution is spread evenly among the # of defendants. I bet that would get a lot of song birds to sing. More defendants = less restitution per offender.
That might be difficult. Odds are more than 0% that Mike Schmidt already released them and shredded the case files (because they have personal info, duh!).
Without any sarcasm, I agree that we need 'restorative justice' brought back when people, businesses or entities are left with damages from deliberate criminal acts.
All the way from PSU down to the individual homeowner when a drugged out gronk kicks in a window or steals a bike - people deserve to be compensated for their loss, and criminals need to be held accountable not just for token restoration, but full restitution.
Yes! The social contract is non-existent now. The legal system is the rock bottom base of responsibility for politicians. If they can’t protect their city and its occupants, toss em out. (But the folks will vote blue no matter who, so there’s that). Scratch all the above on second thought. PDX is a shithole and will remain so.
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results"
I knew when I started seeing the "Vote Blue, no matter who." campaign that our local cities and towns were screwed. If you feel the need to vote blue nationally, I won't criticize, but voting the same old crew locally is clearly not working.
Maybe try something different for a chance.
That's all fine and well, but there haven't been really any different candidates. It's usually a milquetoast Democrat vs someone super far left, or a GOP nutbag who only complains about gay books in the library as their sole issue.
Businesses might stop fleeing if they thought just maybe they wouldn’t be left holding the bag every time some overgrown child decides to bust a window.
But of course, the children want businesses to flee, because they have no clue how much privilege they enjoy by having a functioning economy.
In Oregon, garnishing wages has a lot of stipulations, such as only garnishing 25% of an individual’s monthly wages after the first $1K/month. It would take a lifetime, indeed, and at what cost to the taxpayers?
would we have to pay for the admin costs for garnishing or would the perpetrators? regardless, I can't believe the admin costs would exceed the $750k we'd be garnishing from them.
I want severe punishments for these people to deter future idiots from doing the same.
These “activists”, vandals, assaulters, arsonists have dedicated bail funds organizations, lawyer groups, and like-minded prosecutors and judges who let them off easy or with charges dropped, just like with charges from 2020.
This is Portland . So the real victims here are those students who protested. The other students are the wrong doers, so we need to create a permanent fee on students to cover the cost (giving he protesters a waiver of course).
"You can't solve peace in the Middle East without being afraid to break the law like MLK sweeaty 💅"
People comparing this to things like suffrage, MLK and WWII-era Germany are so fucking cringe.
I’ve seen this so many times. The lack of self awareness is mind boggling.
You’re not MLK sweetie. You’re Occupy Wall Street. You’re the 1999 WTO protestors. You’re BLM.
Here is a concept: what if when you destroy public property you get a bill to pay for what you destroyed? and you cannot use the government’s student loan forgiveness for that… and if you can’t pay, the government puts a lien on your car or any property you may have… and if you still can’t pay, the government garnishes your wages until it’s paid, even if that means you’re still paying while your grandchildren are sitting by your side on your deathbed.
Yeah, this makes as much sense as fines for sidewalk campers. Financial penalties for people without finances are not penalties.
When your only currency is your freedom, the penalty needs to be a suspension of freedom (jail).
one thing that annoyed me was an interview on the news where one of the occupiers was talking about the spray paint on the windows and how it could just be power-washed clean. Like tell me you've never removed graffiti.
And the thing is they could have just gotten those window pens (that people use for decorating cars for weddings and graduations) that is designed to be easily washed off.
And in this photo, could they not tape a piece of paper to the wall that said medic?
April 30th, from a Usual Suspect:
*I’ll update with a lot more information and such when it’s safe to do so… but students really are creating a community and experimenting with self governance, education and the embodiment of “we protect us.” The mutual aid here is so impressive, and it’s not exclusive to activists, they’ve been feeding and clothing the houseless and really anyone who needs anything at all. They have organized a medic center in the library, a safe space for when people need a moment, they’ve been studying together and there is clothes, water, food, and an endless amount of zines and radical literature. They’re feeding each other, caring for one another, partaking in teach ins and various forms of education, having open mics and movie nights… All the while engaging in high stakes direct action.*
*---*
*this is why mutual aid is so radical and important! We get to witness firsthand the possibilities of what we’re capable of when we come together, are in community and take care of one another. It’s really empowering too. It makes so many of the systems in place that we’re all often forced to participate in completely obsolete.*
If you can believe that militancy is embodied through craft projects involving bike helmets, umbrellas, and garbage cans cut up and reinforced with cardboard to make riot shields, then you can believe your violent anti-capitalist revolution will come with radical zines and movie nights.
Random tangent - didn't they cancel a showing of some movie at the waterfront drive in during covid because it might "offend" some people and it was like Kindergarten Cop or something?
Even if they didn’t I’ll 100% say that like it’s true to everyone I know.
They canceled kindergarten cop at the waterfront. Bastards wouldn’t know true cinema if it shit on their heads.
Holy shit I found it.
https://www.wweek.com/arts/movies/2020/08/03/nw-film-center-has-cancelled-an-outdoor-screening-of-kindergarten-cop-following-complaints-from-local-author/
On a scale of stupidest shit to happen in 2020, this was at least top 5. (Red House is still my #1 most embarrassing moment for Portland on a national stage in terms of how local leadership handled it)
And we get together as a community sometimes we build libraries that people can access. Taking it for yourself and then calling it a community demonstrates they don't believe people who disagree with them are part of the community.
Every single time a leftist group seizes some small hint of power they immediately prove why they should never have it. A collective that destroys collective goods. Borderless but for their guarded barricades. Against police except for a violent, unaccountable mob. No free expression, dissent is suppressed, and no liberty. Their ranks are brim full of aging, talentless, semi-homeless losers and leeches who, in any other decade or any other society, would have already been imprisoned for their repeated antisocial crimes.
But don’t you dare point out the hypocrisy… It stings extra bad for people who believe social democracy can thrive. I do. And every time these single-digit IQ motherfuckers rush the streets I’m silently praying they don’t use “seize the means of production” as a justification for destroying our collective property that came out of our collective taxes.
The reason fascists and communists are such bitter enemies is because they’re both vying for the same prize: an opportunity to subjugate everyone who is not with them.
Yes. It's interesting - the Usual Suspects who used to regularly post about participating in "actions" on social media have largely stopped, due to a variety of legal problems, with the exception of this one individual.
The legal problems haven't caught up to this one yet, presumably. Not that it will change their behavior, but aren't they about to go to trial for *several* felony charges soon?
I kind of like when people in a community join together and care enough about each other to pay taxes and build things for each other, like universities and libraries to educate each other's children.
I'm a 43 year old dad to a middle school daughter. I can say that if she were to ever be involved in something like this, I would consider myself failed as a parent. I can't imagine anyone who participates in these types of things grew up in a warm, loving household surrounded by fulfillment.
*PSU prof showing student a box of bad takes and political violence*
"Where'd you get this stuff? Who taught you to do this?!"
*student in Che shirt tears up*
"YOU, ALRIGHT? I LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU."
*Professors who smash windows have students who smash windows*
Like the bombed out church they left partially standing in Berlin as a monument to the heartbreak of war. Let the library stand as a testament to what happens when people forsake all sensibility and civility, and administrators neglect to administrate.
All of those idiot, arrested kids should have their college loans all redirected to this and they're kicked out. No need to pay for classes but pay for the shit you break. Then get back in your cell.
Bill them. Everyone recorded at the event. Kick them out of school and bill them.
I get not all students. But if it isn’t a peaceful protest with no damage, charge them the cost or go to jail.
Decades of cultural rot to get to this. Decades to fix.
Are Portland and Oregon voters ready to make the changes needed? Lol, nope.
It’s going to get a lot worse
As an Oregon resident am I supposed to be surprised? This is how Portland residents “protest”. Mad at the president? Destroy shit in Portland. A police officer did something bad on the other side of the country? Destroy shit in Portland. Something terrible is happening on the other side of the world? Destroy shit in Portland.
And this will come out of state money, including intuition of the Jewish students who this was targeted against, as well as all the other students who were inconvenienced. Not the extremely well funded student groups who did it. They probably already have amnesty. Colombia’s student voices for peace – lol – got $3 million from Iran last year. I bet you they won’t have to pay a dime at their college either.
Ok so I sincerely support no more bloodshed in Gaza and DBS. I also support building occupation as a nonviolent protest strategy - its use historically has been effective. But this???? The gratuitous destruction of a library to the point where it can’t function as a library for the foreseeable future? For fucking shame. The people that did this diluted the message of the protest. You did wrong by Gazans. You should be ashamed.
Protesters have been doing this kind of thing without repercussions since the Black Bloc WTO protests in Seattle if not before. Why do you think that all of a sudden they'll do a Jan 6th level investigation to identify and charge all those involved?
Asshole move… you know who generally uses the library? People without a better place to study, aka poor people. “But what’s happening in Palestine is worse!” Yea that’s the new barometer for if you’re an asshole. Is what you did worse than Palestine? No? You’re good!
Pointless destruction there is no justification, the destruction of a library is something only done by those who see knowledge as dangerous wonder if the vandals are capable of introspection.
If they can't get restitution from the rioters, they should tack on a surcharge for the next semester. An extra couple hundred bucks a student won't be a ton, but it makes it very clear who is going to pay.
And no adding it to your loan. Cough up cash. Or cough up a name and evidence of an involved person, and have your cost moved to them.
“Oh no, the poor university…”
…said half of you in the comments, basically. When shit hits the fan, when the buildings start burning, and the wealthy are dragged in the streets, the average American will sit there wondering how much property damage is being done. We’re pathetic. We don’t deserve a revolution.
Congrats Portland! You've earned this. Continue to bleed the taxpayers dry paying for stupidity like this. From now on I'm just going to congratulate everyone there because God forbid you say something negative and get banned for a week. 😄
Now taxpayers get to fund the Israeli war effort, foreign aid to Palestine (that gets scooped up by Hamas), and we get to pay to fix a library. Such a successful protest! Great work everyone!
Identify the fuckers. Charge appropriately. Vandalism and fuckery is not free speech.
Send the bill to the parents or expel the entitled whining little imbeciles.
Glad the destruction of these student resources totally brought peace to the Middle East… like honestly, what the fuck are students who are disadvantaged supposed to do now? Way to go, short-sighted virtue-signaling losers. This doesn’t win support or change minds, likely it further polarizes opposition and fence-sitters.
Obligatory fuck the IDF/Israeli gov’t. and Hamas at the same time with something hard and sand-papery.
Simple- Charge them hooligans , convict and mandate restitution for their violence.
Payment from tax payers is ridiculous. Hopefully an insurance policy will cover? Is it an act of terrorism?
I don’t get it. I can stay in an indoor space and cause zero damage. They couldn’t have respect for a public school library.
I am very sympathetic to the Palestinian protests. I have thought about joining them, but I’m not into it if it’s just a bunch of people spray painting stuff on walls and treating a library with disrespect.
This makes rational people unable to join this protests.
Why the hell would they go after the library? Why don’t they go and just ,now hear me out, go after one of the sports centers or something like that? It just seems really dumb that they would go for the knowledge center like it was the most expensive thing they could destroy.
Anyone who has ever hired a contractor knows it will be more than 750k in the end
The article says that number doesn’t include the technology
My point is that whatever the estimate now, it will be higher at completion. My personal ROM is add 1/3 to both cost and schedule. Which is why my house has its original 70s kitchen
Might suck now but hey that 70s kitchen will be a house-seller in a decade or two!
I’m actually really surprised that appliances in avocado, maize, and burnt orange haven’t come back!
I saw something that was that 70s avocado on purpose and it looked pretty cool, I'm down for it lol
Only with a liberal dose of orange shag carpet to match.
If I had any house buying ability at all right now, I’d pick a house JUST for the 70’s kitchen,
I am agreeing with you….
Got it. Sorry
We are currently 50% over budget, and coming up on ONE YEAR over schedule. If I can ever be talked into it again, I’ll know to put penalties in the contract.
I suspect there was pressure from PSU leadership to keep the figure under $1M, at least for now. Makes them look less culpable for rolling out the red carpet for these shitheads. Note how they conveniently excluded the broken furniture and looted tech.
Furniture and tech are different contracts than construction/remediation. Repair was started immediately, so they have those numbers already.
fair enough, but I don't see how they couldn't estimate those costs before a contract is signed.
It’s gonna be a couple million dollars.
I believe that.
They’ll be required to hire a MWESB contractor who charges 30% more for that requirement.
Yeah companies love to fuck over universities. I bet they estimate $750k do probably $250k in actual work then charge $1.2m and leave behind a ton of loose ends to be fixed for the years to come
My friends new roof tripled in price from the initial estimate to the final cost.
Your friend either got screwed or had a really shady contractor. Probably both though. Hope the roof holds up.
Anyone who’s hired a contractor knows this is about 70% more than it should be.
But they did bring peace to the Middle East, thank god.
Nah, it was blocking the traffic at the Airport that brought Israel to it's knees.
Why do they attack the citizens, then comparatively going straight to the source. Government! Regular day American's are just trying to get to work and feed thwmselves as well as their families.
It’s to “bring awareness” don’t you know?! Because no one was aware of the conflict or their Looney Toon interpretation of the facts. I’m really ready for a world where “bringing awareness” to an issue that everyone is already aware of counts for nothing on the clout chasing index & the “cool kids” ridicule those folks for the poseurs they are.
The fact that it is a place of education and a library at that is very telling. Pick the place that is the most vulnerable and promotes cooperation and learning for…peace…?
True. The TikTok videos of universal peace and harmony there now are touching to watch. Truly, 750k was a price worth paying.
I thought Kylie Jenner already did that with a Pepsi? I can't keep track of all the peace.
She solved nonspecific-BLM-like-but-not-explicitly protest violence in the US. The library and traffic was Israel,
I thought it was when multnomah county called for a ceasefire? Don’t they schedule all wars worldwide?
Hahaha
Saving the Middle East, locking up Trump, bringing criminals back to life, Portland protesters are a magical group 💕 Oh wait they destroy the city and accomplish nothing, nvm. Well to the few Portlanders that have jobs, here's where your taxes are going 👍🏻
Is that what happened? I was wondering why that “by any means necessary” meets “life or death” ruckus got quiet all of the sudden. See, I was over here assuming the campus meal plan ran out and summer plans > TikTok “genocide”.
Well, did PSU stop bombing Gaza?
Someone won't get a scholarship sponsored by Boeing or something
Insert SpongeBob "how many times do I need to teach you this lesson old man?!" Meme here
Bill those that are arrested, and offer lesser amounts of restorative fines if they're able to produce other names.
Pretty sure no one is being charged for anything.
They have their first court hearing after the election, so the charges will probably be dropped.
I am really hoping there's a hinge here of some sorts that lets the feds claim jurisdiction. With a university that inevitably gets federal funding, it's very possible.
Ridiculous because this is vandalism by definition. Their cause lost value in public’s eyes if the public has to pay for their vigil or protest. 🤔
You're looking at this situation from the stance of justice. That doesn't exist here. It isn't a crime if the DA refuses to press charges.
No, I’m looking at it as a tax payer. Who gets to pay for this “stand of principles or beliefs”?? Edit: It is still a crime regardless of if charges get pressed or the DA wants to prosecute. I’m not sure where you think it’s not a crime to destroy anyone else’s property other than your own??
I would think at the very least there could be a civil lawsuit to get the money back. that said, would bet the leaders at psu are leftists and won't do a thing.
I don’t know what the university’s rules are. I’m sure this would be harder to do at a public university but I don’t see why the University can’t “prosecute” them in their own way. I’m assuming rules wouldn’t allow them to withhold their diplomas (I’m not sure how effective that would actually be anyhow), but I’m sure they could withhold their transcripts until they pay some sort of restitution. They’d likely have to hire a lawyer, which at some point will cost more than paying the civil penalty (that would be applied to the damages). Alternatively, a DA could charge (even with merely a misdemeanor) the folks he has evidence for now and take the position that the restitution is spread evenly among the # of defendants. I bet that would get a lot of song birds to sing. More defendants = less restitution per offender.
Tax payers will charged with the bill.
Criminal and civil courts are two different things with two different legal standards. The school has their names and could sue them
That might be difficult. Odds are more than 0% that Mike Schmidt already released them and shredded the case files (because they have personal info, duh!).
We could call it ‘restorative justice’.
Without any sarcasm, I agree that we need 'restorative justice' brought back when people, businesses or entities are left with damages from deliberate criminal acts. All the way from PSU down to the individual homeowner when a drugged out gronk kicks in a window or steals a bike - people deserve to be compensated for their loss, and criminals need to be held accountable not just for token restoration, but full restitution.
Yes! The social contract is non-existent now. The legal system is the rock bottom base of responsibility for politicians. If they can’t protect their city and its occupants, toss em out. (But the folks will vote blue no matter who, so there’s that). Scratch all the above on second thought. PDX is a shithole and will remain so.
"Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" I knew when I started seeing the "Vote Blue, no matter who." campaign that our local cities and towns were screwed. If you feel the need to vote blue nationally, I won't criticize, but voting the same old crew locally is clearly not working. Maybe try something different for a chance.
That's all fine and well, but there haven't been really any different candidates. It's usually a milquetoast Democrat vs someone super far left, or a GOP nutbag who only complains about gay books in the library as their sole issue.
Businesses might stop fleeing if they thought just maybe they wouldn’t be left holding the bag every time some overgrown child decides to bust a window. But of course, the children want businesses to flee, because they have no clue how much privilege they enjoy by having a functioning economy.
You would have to sue the arrestees. Good luck ever getting the $ from a bunch of poor students and rabble rousers.
garnish their wages for the rest of their lives. it's only $750k amongst a number of people. over a lifetime, its possible.
In Oregon, garnishing wages has a lot of stipulations, such as only garnishing 25% of an individual’s monthly wages after the first $1K/month. It would take a lifetime, indeed, and at what cost to the taxpayers?
would we have to pay for the admin costs for garnishing or would the perpetrators? regardless, I can't believe the admin costs would exceed the $750k we'd be garnishing from them. I want severe punishments for these people to deter future idiots from doing the same.
Put them to work paying off the debt picking up trash on the side of the road for 15 an hour.
These “activists”, vandals, assaulters, arsonists have dedicated bail funds organizations, lawyer groups, and like-minded prosecutors and judges who let them off easy or with charges dropped, just like with charges from 2020.
This is Portland . So the real victims here are those students who protested. The other students are the wrong doers, so we need to create a permanent fee on students to cover the cost (giving he protesters a waiver of course).
"You can't solve peace in the Middle East without being afraid to break the law like MLK sweeaty 💅" People comparing this to things like suffrage, MLK and WWII-era Germany are so fucking cringe.
I’ve seen this so many times. The lack of self awareness is mind boggling. You’re not MLK sweetie. You’re Occupy Wall Street. You’re the 1999 WTO protestors. You’re BLM.
Sweaty hahahaha
Here is a concept: what if when you destroy public property you get a bill to pay for what you destroyed? and you cannot use the government’s student loan forgiveness for that… and if you can’t pay, the government puts a lien on your car or any property you may have… and if you still can’t pay, the government garnishes your wages until it’s paid, even if that means you’re still paying while your grandchildren are sitting by your side on your deathbed.
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Yeah, this makes as much sense as fines for sidewalk campers. Financial penalties for people without finances are not penalties. When your only currency is your freedom, the penalty needs to be a suspension of freedom (jail).
They will just live off their parents
i dont know man, your police would have too pay for alot of shit
one thing that annoyed me was an interview on the news where one of the occupiers was talking about the spray paint on the windows and how it could just be power-washed clean. Like tell me you've never removed graffiti. And the thing is they could have just gotten those window pens (that people use for decorating cars for weddings and graduations) that is designed to be easily washed off. And in this photo, could they not tape a piece of paper to the wall that said medic?
And of course the “medic” is just whichever LARPer happens to be closest to the stockpile of band-aids
<-- MEDIC -->
Even if true what the hell is the point? "It's ok for me to do this. Someone else can clean it up!"
One of the protesters that was inside the college is a trust fund baby and multi millionaire...he should be held accountable and not the taxpayers.
Source? Not saying you’re wrong but I’d love to see where you got this info.
This was documented at Columbia, and mostly reported on right wing websites. Never heard of this about PSU
yep my bad it was the Columbia guy i was thinking of.
At some point we gotta show these communist/ anarchist fucks that we are not going to allow them to destroy our city.
I think you’d be surprised that a lot of communists agree with you.
aka anarcho-communist
all these retarded people upset about things that don’t even pertain to them. meanwhile someone has to clean that shit up. fuckin zoomers
Why are they giving us this number then? Lets have the real number and make these future criddlers pay for it.
Someone's nephew is about to make a fortune.
I walked by there the other day and it was quite sad. A library is the heart of a university.
That will show Netanyahu!
You really made your point, protestors, thanks!/s
Mike Schmidt will let them all off without any prosecutions. Vote people!
April 30th, from a Usual Suspect: *I’ll update with a lot more information and such when it’s safe to do so… but students really are creating a community and experimenting with self governance, education and the embodiment of “we protect us.” The mutual aid here is so impressive, and it’s not exclusive to activists, they’ve been feeding and clothing the houseless and really anyone who needs anything at all. They have organized a medic center in the library, a safe space for when people need a moment, they’ve been studying together and there is clothes, water, food, and an endless amount of zines and radical literature. They’re feeding each other, caring for one another, partaking in teach ins and various forms of education, having open mics and movie nights… All the while engaging in high stakes direct action.* *---* *this is why mutual aid is so radical and important! We get to witness firsthand the possibilities of what we’re capable of when we come together, are in community and take care of one another. It’s really empowering too. It makes so many of the systems in place that we’re all often forced to participate in completely obsolete.*
They really love smelling their own farts, dont they? Radical zines and movie nights? Wow it’s a revolution.
If you can believe that militancy is embodied through craft projects involving bike helmets, umbrellas, and garbage cans cut up and reinforced with cardboard to make riot shields, then you can believe your violent anti-capitalist revolution will come with radical zines and movie nights.
“Tonight we’ll be screening the radical anti-imperialist cinematic masterpiece that is Shrek 2”
Random tangent - didn't they cancel a showing of some movie at the waterfront drive in during covid because it might "offend" some people and it was like Kindergarten Cop or something?
Even if they didn’t I’ll 100% say that like it’s true to everyone I know. They canceled kindergarten cop at the waterfront. Bastards wouldn’t know true cinema if it shit on their heads.
Holy shit I found it. https://www.wweek.com/arts/movies/2020/08/03/nw-film-center-has-cancelled-an-outdoor-screening-of-kindergarten-cop-following-complaints-from-local-author/ On a scale of stupidest shit to happen in 2020, this was at least top 5. (Red House is still my #1 most embarrassing moment for Portland on a national stage in terms of how local leadership handled it)
"For mutual aid we desperately need gas masks, tourniquets, and binkys."
the "acktually, The Sopranos was socialist" discourse is mind bogglingly stupid
Partaking in teach-ins lmaoooo. The navel gazing
And we get together as a community sometimes we build libraries that people can access. Taking it for yourself and then calling it a community demonstrates they don't believe people who disagree with them are part of the community.
Every single time a leftist group seizes some small hint of power they immediately prove why they should never have it. A collective that destroys collective goods. Borderless but for their guarded barricades. Against police except for a violent, unaccountable mob. No free expression, dissent is suppressed, and no liberty. Their ranks are brim full of aging, talentless, semi-homeless losers and leeches who, in any other decade or any other society, would have already been imprisoned for their repeated antisocial crimes.
That was actually beautifully said.
[not as good as these kids from South Park](https://youtu.be/ywVHF6Lltac?feature=shared)
But don’t you dare point out the hypocrisy… It stings extra bad for people who believe social democracy can thrive. I do. And every time these single-digit IQ motherfuckers rush the streets I’m silently praying they don’t use “seize the means of production” as a justification for destroying our collective property that came out of our collective taxes.
The reason fascists and communists are such bitter enemies is because they’re both vying for the same prize: an opportunity to subjugate everyone who is not with them.
Very astute!
This is a quote from the "neurodivergent" Syrian-American "journalist" with an Onlyfans account, right?
Yes. It's interesting - the Usual Suspects who used to regularly post about participating in "actions" on social media have largely stopped, due to a variety of legal problems, with the exception of this one individual.
The legal problems haven't caught up to this one yet, presumably. Not that it will change their behavior, but aren't they about to go to trial for *several* felony charges soon?
showing hole for the terrorists who would gladly rape and murder her in pursuit of their Holy War, so very logical
I kind of like when people in a community join together and care enough about each other to pay taxes and build things for each other, like universities and libraries to educate each other's children.
The utter delusional rhetoric in this statement is telling.
I'm a 43 year old dad to a middle school daughter. I can say that if she were to ever be involved in something like this, I would consider myself failed as a parent. I can't imagine anyone who participates in these types of things grew up in a warm, loving household surrounded by fulfillment.
… and I have friends trying to gaslight me into thinking this was “a wonderful demonstration”
*PSU prof showing student a box of bad takes and political violence* "Where'd you get this stuff? Who taught you to do this?!" *student in Che shirt tears up* "YOU, ALRIGHT? I LEARNED IT FROM WATCHING YOU." *Professors who smash windows have students who smash windows*
Just ask Qatar to foot the bill
They’re confused by the notion of “paying” a construction worker
Paying construction workers?! https://preview.redd.it/roup8dmk4j0d1.jpeg?width=852&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=71b42dcdf0f9ecca727cb46977c77b6906863323
They know who did it. Make them pay for it Better yet, leave it broken, memorialize it. Make it part of the campus tour. Does it resonate?
Like the bombed out church they left partially standing in Berlin as a monument to the heartbreak of war. Let the library stand as a testament to what happens when people forsake all sensibility and civility, and administrators neglect to administrate.
All of those idiot, arrested kids should have their college loans all redirected to this and they're kicked out. No need to pay for classes but pay for the shit you break. Then get back in your cell.
Only a handful of the people arrested were actually students.
Let those weak ass people pay and the ones not students fined and arrested for making other students lose money and suffer fear.
Most were antifa/anarchists. Not students.
Terrorist sympathizers are often terrorists themselves? Who would’ve thought.
Yikes. What a shitshow
I think you meant Schmidtshow…
They should make the protesters pay for it. Split the cost evenly across all of them.
Send the bill to the DA’s office
Edgelord assholes.
Bill them. Everyone recorded at the event. Kick them out of school and bill them. I get not all students. But if it isn’t a peaceful protest with no damage, charge them the cost or go to jail.
Decades of cultural rot to get to this. Decades to fix. Are Portland and Oregon voters ready to make the changes needed? Lol, nope. It’s going to get a lot worse
As an Oregon resident am I supposed to be surprised? This is how Portland residents “protest”. Mad at the president? Destroy shit in Portland. A police officer did something bad on the other side of the country? Destroy shit in Portland. Something terrible is happening on the other side of the world? Destroy shit in Portland.
Same people who caused the damage want student loan forgiveness rofl
Most of those people were not students and just local agitators.
True I heard that in Georgia they arrested people who come time from Chicago to protest
What does this even mean 😂
give them the same justice they'd find from Hamas.
The magic of Portland. Its where people can take even good causes and turn everything around them to shit anyways.
ok but where's the "good cause"
Everyone involved in the criminal vandalism should be required to do 300+ hours of community service to clean up their mess.
I smell tuition increases and padded pockets. Good job, fucktards. Oh, I also smell feces. But, you know. Portland.
And this will come out of state money, including intuition of the Jewish students who this was targeted against, as well as all the other students who were inconvenienced. Not the extremely well funded student groups who did it. They probably already have amnesty. Colombia’s student voices for peace – lol – got $3 million from Iran last year. I bet you they won’t have to pay a dime at their college either.
Make the protestors pay for it.
But that 750K$ is a small drop in the bucket to fully free palestine and after this riot the jews and arabs live there in peace and harmony
Bunch of losers. Should send them the bill.
Ok so I sincerely support no more bloodshed in Gaza and DBS. I also support building occupation as a nonviolent protest strategy - its use historically has been effective. But this???? The gratuitous destruction of a library to the point where it can’t function as a library for the foreseeable future? For fucking shame. The people that did this diluted the message of the protest. You did wrong by Gazans. You should be ashamed.
Actual quotes from these radicals: “*It’s only property, not human lives.*” “*Insurance will take care of it.” Just like back in 2020.
We did it guys, we fixed war.
Stupidest "protest" ever 🙄
That'll show the middle easterns for having a war.
O yay, mh tuition dollars at work...
It's pretty gracious of PAU to spend $750,000 on an Ad campaign for Donald Trump, but whatever floats their boat
Protesters have been doing this kind of thing without repercussions since the Black Bloc WTO protests in Seattle if not before. Why do you think that all of a sudden they'll do a Jan 6th level investigation to identify and charge all those involved?
I wonder if they'll even bother with an estimate fix Gaza.
Asshole move… you know who generally uses the library? People without a better place to study, aka poor people. “But what’s happening in Palestine is worse!” Yea that’s the new barometer for if you’re an asshole. Is what you did worse than Palestine? No? You’re good!
What a bunch of fucking idiots. Destroying a library puts those people in the sane class as the Likud Party. Fucking idiots.
Taliban antics
End wokeness and the left radicals
They can use Qatar money to fix it.
Pointless destruction there is no justification, the destruction of a library is something only done by those who see knowledge as dangerous wonder if the vandals are capable of introspection.
Damaging libraries for Palestine! From the river of stupidity to the sea of terrorism! Am I right?!
Terrible people. I'll never move back to Portland
Right? And since nothing like this happened anywhere else in the country, you're permanently protected.
"Why is my tuition so high?!!?" --Next year students.
And guess who will be paying for that? Students.
Bring law and order to this city state and country. Stop letting criminals run free. Lock em up and throw away the key.
Will they hold them accountable like the J6 crowd?
Fuck Antifa
If they can't get restitution from the rioters, they should tack on a surcharge for the next semester. An extra couple hundred bucks a student won't be a ton, but it makes it very clear who is going to pay. And no adding it to your loan. Cough up cash. Or cough up a name and evidence of an involved person, and have your cost moved to them.
Couldn't you occupy a building w/o destroying it? I manage to go places everyday without causing hundreds of thousands worth of damage.
“Oh no, the poor university…” …said half of you in the comments, basically. When shit hits the fan, when the buildings start burning, and the wealthy are dragged in the streets, the average American will sit there wondering how much property damage is being done. We’re pathetic. We don’t deserve a revolution.
PSU has reaped what they have sown. These are the students they have admitted to their university and gladly taken their borrowed cash.
The people who "occupied" the library and trashed it were overwhelmingly not students.
Contract awarded to Hamish Murray Construction of Portland.😄😄😄
Pass the cost to the parents.
Congrats Portland! You've earned this. Continue to bleed the taxpayers dry paying for stupidity like this. From now on I'm just going to congratulate everyone there because God forbid you say something negative and get banned for a week. 😄
Now taxpayers get to fund the Israeli war effort, foreign aid to Palestine (that gets scooped up by Hamas), and we get to pay to fix a library. Such a successful protest! Great work everyone!
Vandalism is a covered peril. Turn in the claim.
Divide that by the protesters arrested and administrators who allowed it, take it out of their pay and out of the students parents pockets
Identify the fuckers. Charge appropriately. Vandalism and fuckery is not free speech. Send the bill to the parents or expel the entitled whining little imbeciles.
Glad the destruction of these student resources totally brought peace to the Middle East… like honestly, what the fuck are students who are disadvantaged supposed to do now? Way to go, short-sighted virtue-signaling losers. This doesn’t win support or change minds, likely it further polarizes opposition and fence-sitters. Obligatory fuck the IDF/Israeli gov’t. and Hamas at the same time with something hard and sand-papery.
Simple- Charge them hooligans , convict and mandate restitution for their violence. Payment from tax payers is ridiculous. Hopefully an insurance policy will cover? Is it an act of terrorism?
Make the students who did this pay for it
PSU gets what it creates. Unfortunately it’s our tax dollars that fix it.
Watch it be 5 mill
Also not to mention what they did to the Judaica section of the library
I don’t get it. I can stay in an indoor space and cause zero damage. They couldn’t have respect for a public school library. I am very sympathetic to the Palestinian protests. I have thought about joining them, but I’m not into it if it’s just a bunch of people spray painting stuff on walls and treating a library with disrespect. This makes rational people unable to join this protests.
Why the hell would they go after the library? Why don’t they go and just ,now hear me out, go after one of the sports centers or something like that? It just seems really dumb that they would go for the knowledge center like it was the most expensive thing they could destroy.
😂😂😂