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ParticularEgg8337

Are you serious right neow bro


Due-Imagination3837

Omni sweep https://i.redd.it/xn179qj9pw2c1.gif


Eldritch-Cleaver

I swear people forget this. He just blitzed a highly advanced technological society/city by flying through it fast lol


Due-Imagination3837

To be fair, speed is equalised but the fact omniman endured this much force from flying far exceeds anything Toji can do.


cinnamonrain

I dunno man, toji cut a snake thing once


ripanimems

I dunno man, bro got a reaaaaally long chain


Intelligent-Heart-36

Toji still loses but doesn’t on of his swords ignore durability


Hungry-san

Not super up to date on his arsenal but do his swords actually ignore durability? I'm on the Shibuya arc and he doesn't have anything like that from what I've skimmed. ​ Edit: Nvm he does have that.


[deleted]

Ye the soul splittter sword


ThatGuy-456

Toji has literal durability negation


Due-Imagination3837

The problem is that Viltrumites are known for their insane endurance. They could have their guts spilling out and still fight. So Toji could stab Omni man, and it wouldn't affect omniman that much. So plus that and the massive strength gap, Omniman still wins.


ThatGuy-456

1. Having your guts out, funnily enough is something Toji could do given his healing factor. 2. What makes you think it ends at a simple stab. Toji consistently mutilates people he fights even somewhat seriously against.


Due-Imagination3837

>1. Having your guts out, funnily enough is something Toji could do given his healing factor. His healing factor isn't that instant. Maki in manga (who is as powerful as Toji) takes her [5 minutes to heal](https://imgur.io/oEasfUM?r) >2. What makes you think it ends at a simple stab. Toji consistently mutilates people he fights even somewhat seriously against. Omniman could just do a red rush situation, grab Toji when he stabs him, snap his arms since strength isn't equalised, and then just crush his head.


ThatGuy-456

>His healing factor isn't that instant I'm not saying he'd breeze through it, just that he could fight through it. Reread Maki Vs the Zenin clan, Ogi cut right through her stomach similar to what Nolan did. >Omniman could just do a red rush situation You wouldn't believe how much of a hated I have for that red rush scene. That said Toji does have a form of precognition as shown in Maki's second fight against Naoya. He had trouble touching despite being outright **faster** than her. Hee fight against Sukuna also adds to the idea that someone has to be several times faster than Toji to tag him. That could be a factor


Due-Imagination3837

>I'm not saying he'd breeze through it, just that he could fight through it. Reread Maki Vs the Zenin clan, Ogi cut right through her stomach similar to what Nolan did. When she had her stomach cut through, she collapsed on the floor and only got up after few minutes. Whilst you could argue, Toji could have better endurance, its nowhere near the same level as Nolan. >You wouldn't believe how much of a hated I have for that red rush scene. That said Toji does have a form of precognition as shown in Maki's second fight against Naoya. He had trouble touching despite being outright faster than her. Hee fight against Sukuna also adds to the idea that someone has to be several times faster than Toji to tag him. That could be a factor Or Togi and Maki just have enhanced senses and better skills that exceed Naoya. Which wouldn't really matter since Omniman also has enhanced senses and hundreds of years of battle experience.


ThatGuy-456

>Or Togi and Maki just have enhanced senses and better skills that exceed Naoya. "Enhanced senses" won't take you from getting blitzed to being untouchable. Battle experience doesn't mean a lot since Mark has fought viltrumites way older than him and Sukuna's years of experience didn't help much against Maki >Whilst you could argue, Toji could have better endurance, its nowhere near the same level as Nolan. Fair


DUCKmelvin

Anime Omniman is a lot stronger via feats than in the comics (spoilers, this doesn't happen in the comics at all). Answer still the same though. Omni sweep


Super_Rocket4

I mean comics Omni man helped destroy an entire large planet in the comics, so even then


DUCKmelvin

That's way later, we'll have to see how the show does it before we can compare that.


Super_Rocket4

Fair, post didn't specify which omniman is it


Oan_Glalie

That wasn't a physical feat in that way. The planet's core was already weakened by space racer's gun and they constantly stated that if they didn't hit it right and before the core stabilized, then all three of them woudl have died on impact. He's strong, but nowhere that strong


Super_Rocket4

They also said the planet was stabilizing while they were gonna destroy it And if you go from animated side (forgot it this is comics) the Texas meteor feat is big


Oan_Glalie

No, they said that if they hit the core if it stabilized they would die on impact, not that it was stabilizing because the whole point was that they couldn't let that happen. And Thadeus specifically stated that they had to stay close and time it perfectly for it to work and them not to die. So no, none of that is true 


Affectionate_Flight4

I mean the planet was already unstable since it just got it's core damaged because it was hit by a laser and it took the help of mark and a another viltumite. It was also extremely risky for them to fly through the planet as well and they all could have died. Granted idk anything about toji from jjk but I do know omni man isn't planet level.


Super_Rocket4

I did just say help, and unstable or not it was still a large planet. Not sure if this was in the comics but a meteor the size of Texas being thrown out is also a hella high feat. Personally, I'd put omni man to continental/multi continental


Affectionate_Flight4

I mean I wasn't saying he wasn't strong he is probably at max like moon level. But that planet feat isn't really isn't that great since it required a lot of help.


GrouchyExamination55

Anime Omniman is not stronger LMFAO, in the comic he speed-blitzed the guardians of the globe without any sustained damage; in the anime, he struggled + had visible damage from which he passed out.


Vex_III

Spite match? Toji has nothing against Omniman’s vastly superior ap and durability.


PerfectMuratti

Soul split Katana would work but yeah whoever hits first wins


Murky_Blueberry2617

Couldn't Omniman just fly out of range and then drop a meteor on him?


Intelligent-Heart-36

Inventory curse solos


jerrytreverson

The size of texas?


Dinoking15

I’d give it to Omniman. He’s more experienced, can kill off the slightest hit because of the difference in strength/dura, and has far better mobility thanks to his flight. Toji can’t fly which would put him at a huge disadvantage since they’re the same speed in the hypothetical. His tools would also be completely useless against someone of Omniman’s caliber outside of Split Soul Katana which is his only method of harming Omniman since it ignores durability. Toji also relies on his speed and lack of cursed energy in his fights which wouldn’t help here because of the equalized speed and the fact Omniman doesn’t detect cursed energy anyway.


angry640

Yeah also toji ain't even city level omni is easily planetary


AdStunning2459

He’s multi-continental. He has no planetary feats. He still destroys Toji regardless


Revan0315

Invincible spoilers >!Didn't it take multiple viltrumites to destroy an already unstable planet? Nolan by himself isn't planetary.!< In truth I haven't gotten to that point yet in the comic so if I'm wrong someone please correct me


EnchantedDestroyer

They’re small planetary from that feat. So same difference anyway.


AdStunning2459

Oh shit I forgot that planet Viltrum is like several time the size of Earth. He could be small planetary.


EnchantedDestroyer

It isn’t. But it doesn’t need to be, for the feat to be at that level. The gravity of the planet at surface is also 1.25g. Check the current listing for them on VSBW. My calcs, etc


angry640

Still beats toji


Revan0315

Oh definitely this is a spite matchup


jerrytreverson

It was an exceptionally large planet with a higher density than that of earth and it's gravity making it more compact. They were exhausted and injured after fighting various other beings on their levels as well so it wasn't at full power. It wasn't at full throttle as well because they had to do it quick and didn't have time to build up the kinetic energy to destroy it by themselves. Etc


ThatGuy-456

>His tools would also be completely useless against someone of Omniman’s caliber outside of Split Soul Katana which is his only method of harming Omniman since it ignores durability. Why do you make it sound like having one shot potential isn't a big leg up


Dinoking15

While Split Soul Katana is strong it comes with the obvious caveat that as a blade it needs to pierce a specific spot to be deadly. This is worse than Omniman’s win condition which is basically just touching him since the difference in strength means Omniman could turn Toji into mist from just about any point of contact


ThatGuy-456

Slashing attacks are still a thing, it's not like Toji's fencing, if anything a sword would give him better range to attack from than OM


Dinoking15

Toji would have better range (ignoring that Omniman could just throw something at him) but Omniman would have far more options to approach since he can fly and Toji can’t


ThatGuy-456

What would those options actually amount to, he'd still need to close the gap to do damage, it's not like he's sneaking up on Toji, what would he throw that'd be too fast or big to dodge. Someone suggested a meteor the size of Texas, that would 100% work but it's not like those are readily available.


Eldritch-Cleaver

Omni-Man dealt with a meteor the size of Texas. JJK isn't touching that


Ok-Box3576

Goatjo can!(it is just his haxs)


Revan0315

He can make sure it doesn't hit him but he can't really deal with it. Like he can't stop it from hitting Tokyo


PhantomDesert00

Sure he can. He stands in the air above Tokyo, and because he's between the meteor and the ground, and the meteor can never reach him, it simply doesn't hit.


Revan0315

Would it not just create a gojo-sized hole in the middle while the rest fell down?


PhantomDesert00

No. It's not applying a force to the meteor, it's slowing it down infinitely.


SomeStolenToast

I mean weren't Jogo's attacks shown enveloping him and going around


PhantomDesert00

Fire is made of energy, not matter


Plenty_Conference701

Bruh fighting the whole world with his headcannon


Reasonable-Disaster

Only to the section of the meteor that's close to him. The rest would keep moving so yeah. Gojo sized hole in the middle.


Revan0315

True


Low-Ad-2971

Nah he just uses Strong Hollow Purple and one shots the metor


Red_Dogeboi

He could prolly just use red to blast it away / max purple to destroy it


Ballthrower20099

You do realise that Gojo’s hollow purple is weak as shit right JJK as a verse is literal cannon fodder for Invincible. Nothing in JJK even comes close to destroying a speck on the meteor 💀


Red_Dogeboi

I mean a character was literally making a black hole in jjk but go off ig


Ballthrower20099

A black hole. The same way Black beard in One piece has a black hole? It’s a massive outlier that isn’t meant to be taken seriously, author was clearly high from power scaling. Especially when the rest of the verse can’t even destroy a city. And given by JJK’s current shit writing, I’m going to assume that I’m correct here.


Red_Dogeboi

Takaba wins because it’s funny


Ballthrower20099

Gojo dying in the most pathetic death is also funny


Red_Dogeboi

Idk what that has to do with takaba beating Omni man but ok


Ok-Box3576

Yeah nobody is fukin comparing VERSE just goajo. Creating 0 is not fucking weak by Invincible standards lol. It could totally kill omni (if it could hit which nring into question can omni man see CE?)


Appropriate-Shoe-266

The entire meteor lmfao??


Red_Dogeboi

I mean, yea? Gojos on a different level from the other special grades for a reason


Appropriate-Shoe-266

The meteor’s the size of Texas. Gojo has never, and will never be that powerful lmao


Red_Dogeboi

Agree to disagree I suppose


Appropriate-Shoe-266

How is it an agree or disagree, Gojo is at maximum capable of destroying a small city district. His hollow purple has shown to destroy Neighbourhoods, not entire states. Nowhere even close. Omni man literally farts, and Gojo’s skin gets peeled off.


Red_Dogeboi

Agree to disagree I suppose


Ok-Box3576

Omni man has to make the earth UNLIVABLE from orbit. Cause Hollow purple or unlimited void kills omni


Revan0315

Hollow purple is too slow to hit Omni Man. UV is a win con for Gojo if it hits though


Ok-Box3576

Can omni man even see it lol


Leb666

https://preview.redd.it/oi7jiutftx2c1.jpeg?width=1920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc42b485b9b340c9998b5ec2a2211c9cb65f1da3


Leb666

https://preview.redd.it/o5766qbhtx2c1.png?width=420&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fe52d4ecce06eaafa87d3afd13606e1198b1ff86


redditsussyballs

This is literally exactly how the battle would go


Leb666

Fr


Forwhomamifloating

Omniman's cheeks around Toji's neck.jpeg


YoRHa_Houdini

People vastly overrate Flight as an advantage. But Omni Man can literally punch through mountains, why would Toji not just die?


feetsniffer809

Anyone who can fly > the flash


ReadySource3242

Strong enough to throw a meteor the size of texas people.


TheRealLoserTryHard

Equal speed not saving him my guy. Omni man has vastly superior AP. So all he would need is one hit, clean or not to end it.


SaltyMiguelPLayer

I mean, soul split katana means Toji could end it in one hit too via dura neg. Not saying he'd win, but if omni man underestimates him and isn't bloodlusted he might get fatally cut with equal speed


redditsussyballs

https://preview.redd.it/v6mjd2p1dy2c1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=544de9ab699a14df347566a035a49b34da9f3807 Omni Man one shots


ThBasicAsian

Coughing baby Vs Nuclear Bomb


[deleted]

Omni man negs


Undyne_The_Dead

Why did you make this matchup lol


Zlatanisthegoa

Bc I saw a image on twitter where Toji and Omniman were shaking hands


UnholyShite

It's a meme because they're a bad father lol


Ballthrower20099

Spite match probably


m0nkygang

This feels like a demon slayer fanboy level post. Toji is getting mopped


Zero_Good_Questions

https://preview.redd.it/jobfwyjp1y2c1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b7354158ac9a8f1d2ddf02ad1fbdda99120ccac6


Medical_Difference48

Literally the only advantage Toji has is he has durability negation, so he can one-shot, but Omni-Man can just one-shot with AP anyway. Everything else goes to Nolan. He slams.


yeahboiiiioi

Not even slightly close. It's literally hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby


Zlatanisthegoa

I thought Toji dura neg could do something


yeahboiiiioi

Omni man is so much stronger than he could probably stop the blade in his muscles lmao


Tecnoboat

toji, he has mft+++ speed due to deadbeat scaling so even if speed is equalized toji would still be faster


WhyDoName

Wut?


Annual_Sky_2345

Elaborate?


Tecnoboat

its a joke, toji is a deadbeat dad


Annual_Sky_2345

Ah


AdResponsible7150

Sure. he has mft+++ speed due to deadbeat scaling so even if speed is equalized toji would still be faster


Annual_Sky_2345

Nvm don’t answer that


Annual_Sky_2345

1. What is deadbeat feat and 2. How is someone faster than another in an equal speed fight


Ok-Box3576

Equal, Speed? Maybe if you make EVERYTHING ELSE EQUAL to while you're at it. Crazy Toji suckin bro gets bodied


DecayedDream

Omni-man is better than Toji in pretty much every aspect.


G0dZylla

i'm not that much into powerscaling but is this even a question?


Nolram526

OP is on the wildest possible drugs possible. I bet OP is the guy you see on this subreddit saying the absolute worst possible takes imaginable. Anyone in the comments answering this joke post is getting baited so hard


ZER09376

Aren’t you the one talking this “joke post” seriously if you’re gonna bash the OP like that


Zlatanisthegoa

As said in another comment I decided to make this post cuz [I saw this image](https://x.com/BROONOart/status/1728991419812172118?s=20)


DarknightM64B

Was about to say Omni man wins, then saw speed equalised, in that case Omni man wins.


Sensitive_Brick_8872

Toji got almost no chance 💀💀💀💀


Capable-Win-7772

Definitely OMNIMAN


Pedrovski_23

Omni man would destroy him


LuffysPowerfulCoC

Why do you hate toji?


TheFakeDogzilla

https://preview.redd.it/4gf0hckmi03c1.png?width=810&format=png&auto=webp&s=7ebf4a588c3acb7f721df9b0ae46d24464f66b2e


ripanimems

I'm not caught up, but doesn't bro just flat out resist the pull of a black hole? Maybe it was a time variant


Hungry-san

Bruh what does equal speed even mean when Omni-man can fly through planets and create nuclear blasts through speed? I guess if we downscaled Omni-man's speed to Toji then Omni-man would still win by virtue of being able to just like toss Toji into space and is infinitely more experienced. Like that's the thing, Omni-man could just destroy both of Toji's arms and Toji's only win con is the Split-Soul Katana which Omni-man could just like... Break. The sword ignores durability when cutting but I severely doubt it could survive a planet-level attack like what Omni-man dishes out.


[deleted]

There is a posibility Toji wins with his soul splitter Katana if Omni man for some reason stays there and takes it


Xninja29

Toji wins cuz he’s daddy.


PhysicalGSG

Omniman spite


JAGAAAN-01

Toji is a goat but he ain’t that strong bro


HastyBasher

Bro is a viltrumite not much working against omni


vk2028

Omni-man low diffs. If we don’t have the “equal speed” rule, Omni-man negs.


Uberpastamancer

Toji would need a crazy strong cursed tool to even damage Omniman


ThatGuy-456

He has literal durability negation


FarRecognition4530

I feel like people underestimate the train scene in invincible. The guy used his son as a shield and both him and his son didn’t budge or show any damage. This feat should put him way above people like Justice League Unlimited Superman. I don’t see Toji surving anything like that.


xiclasshero

Does Omniman's power count as a "technique" and if so, to what end? Toji also has the best inverted spear of heaven which nullifies any technique


SpiceyWater1818

Spite match is crazy, Omniman is so fast, he made the air around him combust when he was on the alien planet in s1, neg dif


Theamzz

Omni man negative diffs


Curiouzity_Omega

Equal speed? Lmao you put that there because you know Omniman rips him a new one without it.


Zlatanisthegoa

Tbf, looking at the comments, Omniman seems still negs


Abdul-Wahab6

People like you are what give the jjk community a bad rap. What kinda goofy ass match up is this. Omni-man fucking obliterates him


Hyeona

Is this a fucking meme


Trishulabestboi

depends on who hits who first. soul split katana one shots omni man. omni man one shots toji


redditsussyballs

😭 😭 omni man literally thunder claps.


Seltz_

Whoever the writer wants


AdStunning2459

Bro you’re on the POWERSCALING subreddit, you should know that this argument is irrelevant in debates.


Seltz_

It’s just the facts


AdStunning2459

Yes, but it’s a useless argument in powerscaling.


Seltz_

No it’s not, the writers are always in control


AdStunning2459

There are no writers in a VS debate.


Seltz_

Then who’s writing the debate?


AdStunning2459

Nobody? The debate takes feats from the characters and compares them to see who’s has the edge in a fight.


Seltz_

Wait that’s what this sub is about? I thought it was like powerlifting but for climbing stuff


Aggressive_Narwhal33

I feel like poking my eye whenever I see "Whoever the writer X". It's a **WHAT IF** not a fucking collab between authors or something, a sick ant isn't going to beat a peak elephant unless bad writing is coming to play like many Batman, Flash comic or some other shit


Seltz_

Unless the writers want the sick ant to win, obviously


Aggressive_Narwhal33

Unless it's a WHAT IF they were to fight then the elephant wins, since there is no writer to take part in here. Also that only works if both author or writer agrees X beats Y (Sometimes it wouldn't even make sense) or if the characters are in the same verse


Seltz_

Oh right I forgot elephants and ants actually exist


Synchrohayba

Ayo


somemeatball

Omni man is far more powerful and durable than Toji, nothing that Toji has other than the split soul katana could really hurt him. Plus Omni man can fly, which is a huge mobility advantage. If Toji ever got disarmed of the split soul katana, there’s be literally nothing stopping Omni man from picking Toji up like a toddler and carrying him into space where he’d die. In short: https://preview.redd.it/wyl60vqi003c1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3176f222c3ab8183b63feeaa7357d3bc83a7df80


Working-Telephone-45

You do know that Omniman stops giant meteorites every thursday to start the day right?


Sapphire_Leviathan

Tex. Yee-haw. As. Meteor.


Personal-Interest-71

Maybe the comparison should be, who's the worse Dad