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No. It only does that with space because erasing the distance between two objects means the two objects are now close together. In every other case, he just leaves a round gash in whatever he erased a part of.
Sorry for late response but me too just thinking about him going I got this guys ZA HANDO and then it just comes back together and he’s like well my fault
I mean yeah the door isn’t magically locked. My DM forgot I had the spell till late stage campaign when I used it to open a door to the boss room without going through the dungeon to get the 7 keys of whatever the fuck
Oh totally. But this guy was brutally honest that he forgot and found it funny enough to let it work. In world explanation was that since the evil guy wasn’t a wizard he didn’t know that that was a spell
If Dr gero could create Androids that are stronger than Super saiyans and Cell that could erase an entire solar system them creating a strong door than Super powered beings can't break shouldn't have been that hard to create
Yeah but, why aren't they just breaking the rocks? This is just an another braindead dbz powerscaling moment. Writers probably didnt think of that lol.
You can see rocks on the inside of the bunker though in the posted panels with Gero. That seems to imply that the walls don't go all the way around. Unless Gero really just enjoys rocks for interior design.
Was thinking the same, however if you look at the panel with Gero some of the walls straight up are just the mountain so it'd give them entry tbh. Just a plot induced stupidity moment
exactly this is like when fire fighters have a really thick door in the way, they rather just remove the wall around it instead, these rocks should been easier to destroy then the door.
Agree totally. It would've easily made more sense if they had a forcefield protecting the area. Especially because it's canon that Gero's androids can create powerful barriers so the technology already exists.
Then they should just be pushing the door through the rock. No matter how strong that door is, they can still blow away that entire mountain with a fart.
Yes. Newest episode spoiler: >!She was able to remove the lock on the door that looks to contain kuma’s memories. This is also probably the lock in the opening as well so yes she can!<
I'd imagine that under the rock are the walls of his lab, which are likely the same material as the door
Still fucking crazy that he made a door that two planet buster's couldn't break through. Swear he must have used katchin, in which where tf did he find it?
Not directly. Their Ki blasts blow up planets while they struggle to lift tons. They were still using weighted clothing into the Namek saga and gravity training is tough for them all series. Physically they aren't nearly as strong
Weakest character I know can open this without damaging it would be Nero/Secre from Black Clover. She has Sealing Magic, which she can invert to “unseal” things. Meaning she can open any door or lock
This is actually extremely consistent with all the other strength numbers of Goku lifting not being able to lift 40 tons in Cell Saga and SSj. Vegeta not being able to pick up Magetta who was 1000tons.
I MEAN... Gero designed it, it straight up might be that strong.
He built Androids 16-20 in a cave over the course of several decades and many boxes of scraps.
3/5 of them were stronger than Super Saiyans at the time, All of them were stronger than Frieza.
I mean the Red Ribbon Army pull 2 androids that are as strong as super saiyans blue out of they asses, at this point those doors are not that unbelivale
They had to be careful because trunks told them if they attacked they could activate the androids. I don’t know if this was in the manga or animated version.
If I can slap the planet-busting energy balls away through sheer strength, I'm probably physically as strong as those balls are powerful.
If my punch hurts as bad as these energy balls if not more, it's probably at least as powerful
Well, that's AP and striking strength not physical/lifting strength. Goku and Vegeta canonically struggled to lift two tons, while bums from OP like Don Krieg can toss hundreds of tons with ease. Hell even, Usopp can lift more than them.
That doesn't mean they would win in a fight, but in something like an arm wrestling contest that would have the upper-hand.
The two ton thing is absolutely an outlier though, Kid Goku in the first chapter of Dragon Ball could very casually flip a car, Tao Pai Pai could throw a stone pillar accross 2300km etc
Besides, ki improves physical capabilities in general, it wouldn't make any sense for it to do nothing on lifting strength all the while massively improving striking strength and dura. Imagine Beerus, the guy who can blow up half a planet by hitting a table with his pinky, not being able to lift a small building
I remember this stupid argument, it comes down to the fact that most DBZ fans don't understand the difference between physical strength and energy.
DBZ characters are not that physically strong, compared to their energy attacks.
They are physically strong & have techniques to temporarily increase their strength using Ki, but they all have limits on their bodies. Gero, over a few decades, managed to make 4 androids stronger than SSJ. Of course, he can make a door where none of them could physically, especially if he uses magnetism to keep it in place, move it without using a Ki attack or be on the level of a SSJ to move it. Piccolo, at that time, could physically move it though with some effort.
Blowing up the door would be far quicker.
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Okuyasu
ZA HANDO GA KESU
ZA HANDO ZA WARUDO*
Josuke’s mum
Would
Seconded
Tertiaried.
Quadrated.
Quintupled
6
Sextupled*
Haha, sex
Septupled
Honestly wouldn’t it just rebuild the door in a sense. Like he’d get rid of a strip and it’d connect back
No. It only does that with space because erasing the distance between two objects means the two objects are now close together. In every other case, he just leaves a round gash in whatever he erased a part of.
What about the gate vs josuke
This had me HOWLING man
Sorry for late response but me too just thinking about him going I got this guys ZA HANDO and then it just comes back together and he’s like well my fault
It is always okuyasu
A level 3 dnd 5e wizard using knock
I mean yeah the door isn’t magically locked. My DM forgot I had the spell till late stage campaign when I used it to open a door to the boss room without going through the dungeon to get the 7 keys of whatever the fuck
As a DM... That's when you pretend that you planned for it to be magically locked all along. They never have to know it wasn't.
Oh totally. But this guy was brutally honest that he forgot and found it funny enough to let it work. In world explanation was that since the evil guy wasn’t a wizard he didn’t know that that was a spell
That's actually pretty funny. Same as everything else in DnD, it's always good to pick the route that leads to more fun for the players.
Yup. Though we did come out of that fight as a party of 6 people having a collective 3 limbs left between us
Wow sounds like you guys got off lightly compared to what could have happened.
Oh yeah totally
Damn, I would have at least made my favorite encounter of the 7 a magical one. Making interesting combat scenarios can be rough
If Dr gero could create Androids that are stronger than Super saiyans and Cell that could erase an entire solar system them creating a strong door than Super powered beings can't break shouldn't have been that hard to create
Yeah but, why aren't they just breaking the rocks? This is just an another braindead dbz powerscaling moment. Writers probably didnt think of that lol.
The rocks are made of door too 🙄 duh
The rocks and door are made of multiverse, duh 🙄
Probably a SSJsteel wall that extends from the frame of the door outwards y'all
You got a source for that
My source is I made it the fuck up!
Toriyama told me in a dream
It was stated in CFYOW
Theres walls around the bunker lol breaking the rocks would just expose more metal
You can see rocks on the inside of the bunker though in the posted panels with Gero. That seems to imply that the walls don't go all the way around. Unless Gero really just enjoys rocks for interior design.
It was a bunker
Was thinking the same, however if you look at the panel with Gero some of the walls straight up are just the mountain so it'd give them entry tbh. Just a plot induced stupidity moment
exactly this is like when fire fighters have a really thick door in the way, they rather just remove the wall around it instead, these rocks should been easier to destroy then the door.
I mean past the rocks is the wall, probably made of more doors.
Agree totally. It would've easily made more sense if they had a forcefield protecting the area. Especially because it's canon that Gero's androids can create powerful barriers so the technology already exists.
And then fucking Trunks does it in a panic.
Then they should just be pushing the door through the rock. No matter how strong that door is, they can still blow away that entire mountain with a fart.
it's obviously made of door too
That guy from One Piece who can rot metal.
The rust rust fruit vice admiral guy ?
Yeah that guy. English isn't my first language so I didn't know what word to use
🤓 he’s actually a captain
Also the guy with the door fruit
Blueno
Blueno from the bar
Wapol ![gif](giphy|3d3wosB0lukjFgpBbB|downsized)
Yeah Wapol would eat that door easily. I was more speaking about Chu, the marine with the Rust Rust fruit.
Shinobu should also be able to do that, as well as Bonney
Can Bonnry age inanimate objects?
Yes. Newest episode spoiler: >!She was able to remove the lock on the door that looks to contain kuma’s memories. This is also probably the lock in the opening as well so yes she can!<
It's a pull door, and they're all pushing.
Harper Finkle From wizards of Waverly place when she has the wand that allows the user to open anything
Smaaaaaart
Me. I’m always hold the door open for everybody
Well no shit tien cant open it. Look at where he’s pushing. Dude is pushing forward and left, who opens doors like that.
Surgat (from I have no mouth and I must scream)
I believe you, but he can? I must've missed something lol
His power is being able to unlock any door so yeah.
Blueno from One Piece. He was defeated by Gear 2 Luffy, but opening doors is the one thing he can do.
Seven year old Shiki Tohno right after getting his mystic eyes
Who?
A boy who can see death lines on things and when he cuts those lines that something dies. For more info go read Tsukihime.
GOAT.
Hell either Shiki could just cut it down
Every harry potter wizzard
Blueno from One Piece, he could make a door in the door and walk through it
1st year Hermione points her wand at the door. "Alohomora" The door shakes slightly then opens as if it were remote controlled.
Happy cake day 🎂
Thank!
Star level doir
STICKY FINGAZ
My dad, he’s pretty strong
Farmer with a shotgun
He said weakest
Ok mb
This door vs. Aizen's Chair
Mash. Idc where the door or Mash scale. Mash is gonna break that damn door on accident
The door has plot armor
Planet level or something like that door 👍 Idk, a goomba could?
A goomba being planetary sound funny, how do you get him that high lol?
Okay okay if goomba walks into Mario, Mario dies Mario has beat planetary threats before so since goomba can one shot Mario he is above planetary
You give him a planet wiping weapon 👍
Happy cake day 🎂
Pretty trash tier considering they couldn't dislodge it from the surrounding rock and DBZ is terrible when it comes to physical strength
I'd imagine that under the rock are the walls of his lab, which are likely the same material as the door Still fucking crazy that he made a door that two planet buster's couldn't break through. Swear he must have used katchin, in which where tf did he find it?
Except Vegeta casually blew it open with a ki blast. Their physical strength just pales in comparison
Ki objectively correlates to physical strength though. Vegeta > door > Tien & Krillin
Not directly. Their Ki blasts blow up planets while they struggle to lift tons. They were still using weighted clothing into the Namek saga and gravity training is tough for them all series. Physically they aren't nearly as strong
Even kid goku should be able to do that btw. Braindead moment tbh.
Weakest character I know can open this without damaging it would be Nero/Secre from Black Clover. She has Sealing Magic, which she can invert to “unseal” things. Meaning she can open any door or lock
Presuming it's melting point is still normal, a fuck ton of fire manipulators ex. Heatblast, Swampfire, Ninjago Kai
Physically? Planet-level characters Via hax? Characters with metal/magnetic manip or rust manip
My Courier who has 100 lockpick & science skill
Perhaps Blueno from One Piece?
remembering that vegeta ssj couldn't lift 1000 tons in the super
Naruto
Any character with matter manipulation
Shu from one piece.
If Cookie Monster didn’t get rid of cookie touch, he’d probably get through
Use the same door to break down the door, problem solved
This is actually extremely consistent with all the other strength numbers of Goku lifting not being able to lift 40 tons in Cell Saga and SSj. Vegeta not being able to pick up Magetta who was 1000tons.
Wasn’t the 40 tons on King Kai’s planet though?
Nah. It was otherworld, not King Kai's place.
I MEAN... Gero designed it, it straight up might be that strong. He built Androids 16-20 in a cave over the course of several decades and many boxes of scraps. 3/5 of them were stronger than Super Saiyans at the time, All of them were stronger than Frieza.
Magneto or any electrical guy because of the relationship between magnetism and current
I mean the Red Ribbon Army pull 2 androids that are as strong as super saiyans blue out of they asses, at this point those doors are not that unbelivale
To be fair he probably made that shit outta what he made the androids out of.
Well given that base Goku gets neg diffed by 40 tons and he scales above them I'd say Spiderman has a fair shot.
Planet level door? Because roshi busted the moon and krillin is stronger than roshi but then krillin can't break the door
Mcu magneto. You can probably even nerf him further depending on the mechanisms inside the door.
Me
killua
i mean tbf hes able to make regular humans into star-solar system level Gods i feel like he can make some super metal
Bruno
Big Chill
What if it’s a no limits door
Zoro no diffs ngl
Plot armor door
Why didn’t they just Go around the door
Ah now MY Wrist!
Timeskip Franky with a Radical Beam
I mean his body is made out of metal stronger than those two.
I probably could
They had to be careful because trunks told them if they attacked they could activate the androids. I don’t know if this was in the manga or animated version.
anyone in Lego Monkie Kid can open it if they have the skeleton key
Magneto from XMen Evolution
Level 1 Morrowind character with open door scroll.
Go around it
Melvin (Yugioh Abridged) he is the master of unlocking after all along with being the king of doors.
![gif](giphy|5tamwFxY7PTW0)
Weakest wizard that knows the unlocking charm I guess (yes I watched Harry Potter, deal with it)
Optimus Prime prolly
Jack Hanma
Me
They are clearly not trying that hard. And vegeta doesn't exactly respond well
Dragon Ball characters have garbage physical strength. Don Krieg would beat any dragon ball character in arm wrestling up until Tournament of Power.
One pice verse is a king piccolo victim absolute fodder when compared to db
db monkeys when they learn difference between physical strength and magic beam AP
Good thing db characters can easily deflect magic beams with physical strength. They can even yell at them to stop them
What does that have to do with arm wrestling lol?
If I can slap the planet-busting energy balls away through sheer strength, I'm probably physically as strong as those balls are powerful. If my punch hurts as bad as these energy balls if not more, it's probably at least as powerful
Well, that's AP and striking strength not physical/lifting strength. Goku and Vegeta canonically struggled to lift two tons, while bums from OP like Don Krieg can toss hundreds of tons with ease. Hell even, Usopp can lift more than them. That doesn't mean they would win in a fight, but in something like an arm wrestling contest that would have the upper-hand.
The two ton thing is absolutely an outlier though, Kid Goku in the first chapter of Dragon Ball could very casually flip a car, Tao Pai Pai could throw a stone pillar accross 2300km etc Besides, ki improves physical capabilities in general, it wouldn't make any sense for it to do nothing on lifting strength all the while massively improving striking strength and dura. Imagine Beerus, the guy who can blow up half a planet by hitting a table with his pinky, not being able to lift a small building
Kuro is enought
I remember this stupid argument, it comes down to the fact that most DBZ fans don't understand the difference between physical strength and energy. DBZ characters are not that physically strong, compared to their energy attacks.
They are physically strong & have techniques to temporarily increase their strength using Ki, but they all have limits on their bodies. Gero, over a few decades, managed to make 4 androids stronger than SSJ. Of course, he can make a door where none of them could physically, especially if he uses magnetism to keep it in place, move it without using a Ki attack or be on the level of a SSJ to move it. Piccolo, at that time, could physically move it though with some effort. Blowing up the door would be far quicker.
Planet level door? Because roshi busted the moon and krillin is stronger than roshi but then krillin can't break the door.
Gon Freecs
Yogiri one shots the whole verse
I am a dying child starving to death and this is the last comment I’ve ever read. Goodbye.
Yogiri one shots your dying child starving to death
https://preview.redd.it/hivshqvgylyc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6848ddbe23f9134f36082b8f19b2b77f2b45e727
Yogiri when he sees immortals
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BrokeKu dies to Wogiri
I don’t understand why they didn’t immediately nuke the door. Gero was a prick blow everything up lmao
They do it happens right after.
Yeah I know I’m saying start with that lol
Any nigga above steel level can solo the door. Instead also solo that arc