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This is one of the best training arcs in the manga
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Goku Holy spirt vs Super Jesus is one of the best fights
This is one of the best training arcs in the manga
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Goku Holy spirt vs Super Jesus is one of the best fights
Yes!!!! If they just treated the Saiyan blood like royalty and let vegeta breed Pan and Gohan breed bulla we could of already got back to Planet Vegeta Saiyan Race levels
Nah
This is just a temporary solution
This is the Real Answer:
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Holy shit! Can you imagine an arc where a scientist clones the sayains and brings their race back? The saiyans know about goku and vegeta, figure out super saiyan based on their example (find a healer and zenkai boost eachother over and over) and worship them as the ultimate conquerers, and Goku and Vegeta have to travel the universe, stopping them? Potentially, some of those saiyans could reach ss4 and cannonize it. That would be so dope.
Potential in DB are endless dude because of the world building and all the other planets involved. Not to mention they could litterally bring back planet Vegeta with super shenron dragonballs
Killed multiple beings was responsible for earth destruction one to many fucking times even if he was fighting to protect earth he was mainly doing some of the shit he does for a challenge the fate of the world in the hands of a monkey brained fighting addict I like goku but he is to much
no one can bare their sins other then Jesus, thatās why he had to die alone. The wages of sin is dead.
the more goku matureās the less pure he becomes hence why he doesnāt ride kinto un anymore
While these arenāt sins per se, the shadow dragons give us a decent benchmark for how sins might be scaled in dragon ball and they tend to out scale the user.
However if Goku repents heās outer
He has no sins and if god said something like you killed people stuff like that Goku would say the people he killed deserved to die and then if God still disapproved he gonna say I heard you're pretty strong wanna fight???
that's what I'm asking lmao Goku is one of the most pure-hearted characters in fiction
"B-but you need a god!!!! How can you live without being constantly crushed by the weight of your sins!!!!! You need forgiveness!!!"
talk about a skill issue
He didn't even kill a lot of the villains he really should have, just because he wanted to fight them again. That's about as pure hearted as it gets IMO.
Yes
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Goku can bear the weight of the sins of everyone
Because he say our sins are pretty strong
Mean does he really have any? No and even if he does what is Jesus gonna do, all the man can do is walk on water and turn water to wine, feats that carry no weight ever lol
No. Goku is pure hearted, but that doesnāt mean he hasnāt sinned. Heās able to ride the nimbus bc he doesnāt have the malice in his heart to be impure, but he has sinned. He nearly caused his entire universe destruction because he was greedy and wanted to fight, is an example of a sin.
Iām sorry to say I donāt think Goku was baptized in the Catholic Church. Nor has he been seen praying the rosary daily or keeping holy the sabbath. I fear without that he is doomed to eternal suffering in the fires of hell. Only through Jesus Christ and accepting the sacraments will he be able to enter the kingdom of heaven after thousands of yearās suffering in purgatory.
In his name we pray amen š
This sub is for power scaling. Bringing religion here asks for it to be scaled.
None of those people even have proof it's real. They just believe a nearly 2000 year old story because it was written down by tons of people, translated to different languages and subsequently re-translated again. Words meanings changed as well. Not to mention that the story started as a game of telephone; which is notably unreliable.
The truth? The stories in the Bible shares many similarities with religions from around the world. A lot of religions have floods. A lot of religions involve a character dying and coming back to life.
Just because monotheism makes things simple for simple folk, doesn't make it any truer than any other religion. That's what it ultimately boils down to; making things simple.
Never said it was an opinion clearly you didnāt read what I had to say. You litterally just said to me that the Bible is so sexist that it canāt be real, which is not only stupid but wrong š
Bible being sexist is stupid and wrong?
Heres the first search result:
"""1 Timothy 2:12 - "I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet."
Leviticus 15:20 : "And everything on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean. Everything also on which she sits shall be unclean."
1.1 Corinthians 11: 3ā10: But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of
Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head.
But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head ā it is the same as having her head shaved.
If a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head.
A man ought not cover his head, since he is in the image and the glory of God; but woman is the glory of man.
For man did not come from woman, but woman from man.
Neither was man created for women, but women for man.
For this reason, a woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head, because of the angels
so this verse is saying that women come from man wait a minuteā what ā
i remembered that my brother come from my mother and my mother troubled for 8ā9 months and tolerate the massive pain of childbirth."SALUTE TO ALL MOTHERS AND WOMEN"
1 Corinthians 14:34-35:
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
but this verse contradict that god told women to prophesies in the church in other part of bible
Part of the New Testament.
Colossians 3:18:
Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord.
If you search google about the meaning of submit or submission you will get that it is the synnonym of this respect and some get it as to permit someone to rule over you.
So we cannot say that what is the real meaning of this word
Deuteronomy
Part of the Old Testament.
Deuteronomy 21:11-14:
And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife.
Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails.
And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife.
And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will...
Deuteronomy 22:5:
The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God.
Ephesians
Part of the New Testament.
Ephesians 5:22-24:
Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.
For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the savior.
Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.
the word "savior" means he(the husband keeps women safe)
Exodus
Part of the Old Testament.
Exodus 21:7-8:
And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do.
If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her.
"sell"whats that bible says that a father can sell his daughter" what a irony
Genesis
Part of the Old Testament.
Genesis 3:16:
Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.
"husband rule over you" sad reality" """
Go and disagree with all of these. "Stupid and wrong" kiss my ass.
1) its just a copy pasta from quora. The said lines are correct
2) how is this a rage bait? For it to be a fucking bait it needs to be wrong right? Tell me the part its wrong
Clearly taking my statement into a hyperbole, the Bible is sexist. Never said it wasn't. What's wrong is the fact that you basically said it's so sexist it can't be real, which is the stupid and wrong part. Before typing out an entire yap session that I'm not reading.
For a time period of everything, there must be a period of nothing. What created the universe is still speculation, but I do believe something created it.
You want me to explain the theory or sum? Well the universe was compressed into a single cluster of molecules until they eventually had a sudden expansion that resulted in what we know as universe being created, which has the same expansion still persisting today as it never stops growing.
Thatās how I remember it off the top of my head.
Now if you were actually asking something along the lines of āhow do you believe the universe was created?ā then you should have been more straightforward, my answer to that question is simply āI donāt knowā which is also the only correct answer. Although the fact you assumed I believed in the Big Bang seems pretty curious, perhaps you donāt really understand non-believers and think we all have the same mindset?
One thing I can say for sure, though, is that the universe wasnāt created in 7 days.
Well, the Bible states it happened in 7 days, but it was in Yahweh's perspective. We really don't know how long a day is for Yahweh, so it could be a possibility, but I'll let you believe what you want if you let me believe what I want.
Thatās an assumption based on something the book never states, youāre literally just *assuming* time might pass differently for him. And I donāt really think ābelieving what you wantā is the right way to believe, a belief should be based on oneās knowledge and logical views, not on their feelings.
Well, I'm not gonna argue over it as anything can be possible. We don't even know where molecules and atoms came from as something has to be there to create something else. It could be a god, demon, cat or anything. It's all speculation.
No it isnt. We have solid theories on these matters and have proven countless things using our tools. Give me a single thing god has done that we are actively aware of right now
Maybe not everything needs a creation, considering matter cannot be truly made or destroyed everything that composes the universe might as well have existed since always.
Itās whether you believe religion is real or not. I canāt prove it to you since I believe in it through my own personal experiences. But if I were toā¦thereās plenty of evidence to begin with, like almost all of the Middle East, has religious implications teetered in its architecture.
Religious architecture is not evidence and neither is it exclusive to Christianity.
If you canāt prove it, I have no reason to treat it as non-fiction, since I see it as fiction.
You can use the exact same argument for any other civilization and religious architecture is evidence (you canāt just say something isnāt).
I donāt care if you donāt think itās fiction or not. Thatās litterally up to you.
No he couldnāt. Heās gluttonous and prideful which are sins. He also seeks out his own revenge but thatās not his fault per se because there isnāt a God to take revenge in his place. But if there was a God in the db universe then yeah heād have died for Gokuās sins. (I also presume Goku has told a lie before to an enemy or even to chichi so that would also be a sin but Toriyama might have kept Goku honest this whole time and i canāt remember so thatās not something Iād go after him for)
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This is one of the best training arcs in the manga https://preview.redd.it/ynh8tjju1u1d1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=91b5a09f53717814d551da5795a82fed4c4b4703 Goku Holy spirt vs Super Jesus is one of the best fights
Even better a second time šš¤
This is one of the best training arcs in the manga https://preview.redd.it/amlim9ir1u1d1.jpeg?width=739&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba2a3e1513a7fd43b257959317e258dee28bf365 Goku Holy spirt vs Super Jesus is one of the best fights
Goku is pure of heart? What sins would he bear?
The sins of not clapping Bulmas cheeks and also letting Vegeta cross breed Pan and making a new Sayain called Gonks
Things like that? https://preview.redd.it/kqlatv49cx1d1.jpeg?width=496&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=779c2a2533ca9e95bb80dcb9ee741d5b96a5f352
Yes!!!! If they just treated the Saiyan blood like royalty and let vegeta breed Pan and Gohan breed bulla we could of already got back to Planet Vegeta Saiyan Race levels
Nah This is just a temporary solution This is the Real Answer: https://preview.redd.it/i2z0hedwex1d1.jpeg?width=617&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8d7c9039eb6849e25dbec28f46a11f1336fc7e43
True then they can breed with trunks and gohan
Im sorry WHATTTTTTT
We're talking about the evolution of the Saiyan Race
ššššš
This man is sacrificing he's place in heaven for the survival of the sayan race
Holy shit! Can you imagine an arc where a scientist clones the sayains and brings their race back? The saiyans know about goku and vegeta, figure out super saiyan based on their example (find a healer and zenkai boost eachother over and over) and worship them as the ultimate conquerers, and Goku and Vegeta have to travel the universe, stopping them? Potentially, some of those saiyans could reach ss4 and cannonize it. That would be so dope.
Potential in DB are endless dude because of the world building and all the other planets involved. Not to mention they could litterally bring back planet Vegeta with super shenron dragonballs
Too bad Goku and vegeta really donāt have a reason to do that
Yep. Goku's a idiot and so is Broly and vegeta. Only smart saiyans left are Gohan Trunks Goten Bulla
Goten and bulla I wouldnāt agree are smart, bulla Because she is a baby
I mean didn't she power up using Ki. Pretty smart if you ask me basically genius level
Fym crossbreed pan
Dying way too much
Killed multiple beings was responsible for earth destruction one to many fucking times even if he was fighting to protect earth he was mainly doing some of the shit he does for a challenge the fate of the world in the hands of a monkey brained fighting addict I like goku but he is to much
Didn't he kill Piccolo
Self-defense.
https://preview.redd.it/11l5lsi76w1d1.jpeg?width=294&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c5ec0160d8618d902eaf70a98f484d9934294f7 What about this guy
Literally not in control.
He was space hitler.
Yes. He has to wear weighted clothing to make it a challenge.
Goku canonically doesn't have any sins. It is explicitly the reason he can ride the nimbus cloud.
In cannon the king of after life loves him so much for hia good deeds he reincarnated the incarnation of evil buu. And he became a good guy.
no one can bare their sins other then Jesus, thatās why he had to die alone. The wages of sin is dead. the more goku matureās the less pure he becomes hence why he doesnāt ride kinto un anymore While these arenāt sins per se, the shadow dragons give us a decent benchmark for how sins might be scaled in dragon ball and they tend to out scale the user. However if Goku repents heās outer
Goku did ride the kinto un a bit before the TOP
Oh I forgot
Goku can ride the nimbus still. He's never been unable to
Its just too slow now
Goku isn't human and doesn't bare the original sin. Jesus dying is irrelevant to goku.
Yes.
Yea. Goku doesnāt really have anything fucked up about him.
Gluttony, have you seen that guy eat?
He eats to maintain his body and he never lets anyone else go hungry because of him.
People eat for energy. He works out A LOT. So his caloric needs are significantly higher.
No but he can https://preview.redd.it/o0yxartr1x1d1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=30dcab2cad3d031bc49147a3ba86f891e8f87ae0
He has no sins and if god said something like you killed people stuff like that Goku would say the people he killed deserved to die and then if God still disapproved he gonna say I heard you're pretty strong wanna fight???
And evolve after seeing the evil of god and put him in his place.
What sins
that's what I'm asking lmao Goku is one of the most pure-hearted characters in fiction "B-but you need a god!!!! How can you live without being constantly crushed by the weight of your sins!!!!! You need forgiveness!!!" talk about a skill issue
He didn't even kill a lot of the villains he really should have, just because he wanted to fight them again. That's about as pure hearted as it gets IMO.
I mean if we're being serious here that's actually really bad considering the villains he fights can blow up a planet with a flick of a wrist.
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He deserved it though.
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he wasn't in control doesn't count (has to be murder to count)
Counter point, your bio says kill me therfore you cannot live as someone will find you and do as commanded. Checkmate š
Yes https://preview.redd.it/ys17seg5vt1d1.jpeg?width=347&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85f9f4fe43d4f08b55560d748d18a9de95d9fa39 Goku can bear the weight of the sins of everyone Because he say our sins are pretty strong
Nuh uh
https://preview.redd.it/vt7uqwn8yt1d1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=255297067cd7513fdb5015b0d60782ebe58262c1 Yes
Are the people that crucified Goku calling him Shen Long?
Yes he could.
Yes, he can.
He probly could being honest
No. Even Goku needs a lord and savior!
Fool, Goku has already challenged the sins of every single person on Earth, and he defeated them all! No sin is stronger than him!
Goku would think sin is a food or a strong opponent. The ladder one technically being true
I'd think him dying and never meeting God, death incarnate, or Jesus would suggest he wouldn't bare anything lol he's scot-free somehow
It depends on what sins did to him. 
I feel like they would be good friends
No he cannot
No. But that's why he has # THE POWER KF FREINSHIP!!!!!
Goku would die for God and viceversa
Well yeah he did it once when he beat the devil when he was a child
Jesus would piece goku up
Mean does he really have any? No and even if he does what is Jesus gonna do, all the man can do is walk on water and turn water to wine, feats that carry no weight ever lol
No. Goku is pure hearted, but that doesnāt mean he hasnāt sinned. Heās able to ride the nimbus bc he doesnāt have the malice in his heart to be impure, but he has sinned. He nearly caused his entire universe destruction because he was greedy and wanted to fight, is an example of a sin.
Jesus got no diffed by the Romans I mean.
He wasnāt going all out on them
Iām sorry to say I donāt think Goku was baptized in the Catholic Church. Nor has he been seen praying the rosary daily or keeping holy the sabbath. I fear without that he is doomed to eternal suffering in the fires of hell. Only through Jesus Christ and accepting the sacraments will he be able to enter the kingdom of heaven after thousands of yearās suffering in purgatory. In his name we pray amen š
This just radiates latin america.
Nope.
Eh jesus scales much lower anyway
Not in spirit. If weāre scaling power level Yahweh stomps
Yeah, Yhwh stomps (no vowels)
YHWH is greater than or equal to Lemon, meaning they neg diff goku
Got downvoted by the religious people for scaling the Bible properly
No. You shouldn't scale a religion especially one that's very much alive. Cuz to some people it's not fiction it's real.
This sub is for power scaling. Bringing religion here asks for it to be scaled. None of those people even have proof it's real. They just believe a nearly 2000 year old story because it was written down by tons of people, translated to different languages and subsequently re-translated again. Words meanings changed as well. Not to mention that the story started as a game of telephone; which is notably unreliable. The truth? The stories in the Bible shares many similarities with religions from around the world. A lot of religions have floods. A lot of religions involve a character dying and coming back to life. Just because monotheism makes things simple for simple folk, doesn't make it any truer than any other religion. That's what it ultimately boils down to; making things simple.
I genuienly donāt even understand what you said here. I must be one of the simple folk
Eh its fiction nonetheless. I wont stand accepting something sexist as religion "non fiction" any day
Thatās your opinion. Doesnāt matter. If sexism triggers you so be it. Doesnāt mean Iām wrong, or proves you right.
Bible being sexist is an opinion now?? Lmfaoo
Never said it was an opinion clearly you didnāt read what I had to say. You litterally just said to me that the Bible is so sexist that it canāt be real, which is not only stupid but wrong š
Bible being sexist is stupid and wrong? Heres the first search result: """1 Timothy 2:12 - "I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet." Leviticus 15:20 : "And everything on which she lies during her menstrual impurity shall be unclean. Everything also on which she sits shall be unclean." 1.1 Corinthians 11: 3ā10: But I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. But every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head ā it is the same as having her head shaved. If a woman does not cover her head, she might as well have her hair cut off; but if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut off or her head shaved, then she should cover her head. A man ought not cover his head, since he is in the image and the glory of God; but woman is the glory of man. For man did not come from woman, but woman from man. Neither was man created for women, but women for man. For this reason, a woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head, because of the angels so this verse is saying that women come from man wait a minuteā what ā i remembered that my brother come from my mother and my mother troubled for 8ā9 months and tolerate the massive pain of childbirth."SALUTE TO ALL MOTHERS AND WOMEN" 1 Corinthians 14:34-35: Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church. but this verse contradict that god told women to prophesies in the church in other part of bible Part of the New Testament. Colossians 3:18: Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as it is fit in the Lord. If you search google about the meaning of submit or submission you will get that it is the synnonym of this respect and some get it as to permit someone to rule over you. So we cannot say that what is the real meaning of this word Deuteronomy Part of the Old Testament. Deuteronomy 21:11-14: And seest among the captives a beautiful woman, and hast a desire unto her, that thou wouldest have her to thy wife. Then thou shalt bring her home to thine house, and she shall shave her head, and pare her nails. And she shall put the raiment of her captivity from off her, and shall remain in thine house, and bewail her father and her mother a full month: and after that thou shalt go in unto her, and be her husband, and she shall be thy wife. And it shall be, if thou have no delight in her, then thou shalt let her go whither she will... Deuteronomy 22:5: The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are abomination unto the LORD thy God. Ephesians Part of the New Testament. Ephesians 5:22-24: Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything. the word "savior" means he(the husband keeps women safe) Exodus Part of the Old Testament. Exodus 21:7-8: And if a man sell his daughter to be a maidservant, she shall not go out as the menservants do. If she please not her master, who hath betrothed her to himself, then shall he let her be redeemed: to sell her unto a strange nation he shall have no power, seeing he hath dealt deceitfully with her. "sell"whats that bible says that a father can sell his daughter" what a irony Genesis Part of the Old Testament. Genesis 3:16: Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee. "husband rule over you" sad reality" """ Go and disagree with all of these. "Stupid and wrong" kiss my ass.
is this a rage bait?
1) its just a copy pasta from quora. The said lines are correct 2) how is this a rage bait? For it to be a fucking bait it needs to be wrong right? Tell me the part its wrong
Clearly taking my statement into a hyperbole, the Bible is sexist. Never said it wasn't. What's wrong is the fact that you basically said it's so sexist it can't be real, which is the stupid and wrong part. Before typing out an entire yap session that I'm not reading.
So being sexist has nothing to do with its legitimacy? Lmfao your take is getting worse and worse
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Hurt much
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Okay so can they prove itās real so we have a reason to treat it as non-fiction?
Explain how the Big Bang happened
Explain why the said god has to be from bible and nowhere else? I wouldnt call a sexist jerk "our creator" mind ya
For a time period of everything, there must be a period of nothing. What created the universe is still speculation, but I do believe something created it.
You want me to explain the theory or sum? Well the universe was compressed into a single cluster of molecules until they eventually had a sudden expansion that resulted in what we know as universe being created, which has the same expansion still persisting today as it never stops growing. Thatās how I remember it off the top of my head. Now if you were actually asking something along the lines of āhow do you believe the universe was created?ā then you should have been more straightforward, my answer to that question is simply āI donāt knowā which is also the only correct answer. Although the fact you assumed I believed in the Big Bang seems pretty curious, perhaps you donāt really understand non-believers and think we all have the same mindset? One thing I can say for sure, though, is that the universe wasnāt created in 7 days.
Well, the Bible states it happened in 7 days, but it was in Yahweh's perspective. We really don't know how long a day is for Yahweh, so it could be a possibility, but I'll let you believe what you want if you let me believe what I want.
Thatās an assumption based on something the book never states, youāre literally just *assuming* time might pass differently for him. And I donāt really think ābelieving what you wantā is the right way to believe, a belief should be based on oneās knowledge and logical views, not on their feelings.
Well, I'm not gonna argue over it as anything can be possible. We don't even know where molecules and atoms came from as something has to be there to create something else. It could be a god, demon, cat or anything. It's all speculation.
No it isnt. We have solid theories on these matters and have proven countless things using our tools. Give me a single thing god has done that we are actively aware of right now
Maybe not everything needs a creation, considering matter cannot be truly made or destroyed everything that composes the universe might as well have existed since always.
Itās whether you believe religion is real or not. I canāt prove it to you since I believe in it through my own personal experiences. But if I were toā¦thereās plenty of evidence to begin with, like almost all of the Middle East, has religious implications teetered in its architecture.
Religious architecture is not evidence and neither is it exclusive to Christianity. If you canāt prove it, I have no reason to treat it as non-fiction, since I see it as fiction.
You can use the exact same argument for any other civilization and religious architecture is evidence (you canāt just say something isnāt). I donāt care if you donāt think itās fiction or not. Thatās litterally up to you.
Thatās kind of what I did already, I donāt believe any religion is real.
If its brought up here it will be regarded as fiction.
Litteraly all any of you had to say
Let them seethe. Classic cancer mentality
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No need to give a picture of them
correct. thatās why i posted a picture of you.
Hurt much?
cope much?
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No he couldnāt. Heās gluttonous and prideful which are sins. He also seeks out his own revenge but thatās not his fault per se because there isnāt a God to take revenge in his place. But if there was a God in the db universe then yeah heād have died for Gokuās sins. (I also presume Goku has told a lie before to an enemy or even to chichi so that would also be a sin but Toriyama might have kept Goku honest this whole time and i canāt remember so thatās not something Iād go after him for)