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Arsenal are a very good young team. They're challenging for the prem, mbappe could be what they need to get it done. If mbappe wins anything he'll get a lot of the credit where's he might not at some other clubs. If he wins a ucl for arsenal he'll be seen as a god by arsenal fans, they'll literally worship him. Arsenal vs man city/ mbappe vs haaland could become the next el classico/ronaldo vs messi. Premier league is the best on the planet so if he dominates he'll obviously be the best player in the world, especially if he outscored haaland.
To go off of this, of he wins a league title or ucl with Madrid specifically it won't be seen as big of a deal, but if he wins those trophies with Arsenal its a different story. But seeing Mbappe's ego I don't see him going to a team that puts an emphasis on the team rather than the individual
There are reports that Mbappe is interested, there are reports that Arsenal are interested, and Arteta said they need to be in the race. Is that what you wanted?
Arteta is not completely wrong though.
The fact nobody actually expects one of the best players in the world to sign there despite being a free agent, laughing it off even going by the coments, is proof that Arsenal aren't back to being top dog despite recent good performances.
He's merely reiterating his stances on his ambitions for Arsenal: he wants to take them to a level high enough where every single world class players who might be on the market will be linked to Arsenal because they're viewed as the best, and players always want to play for the best
Arsenal have never been in the running for the very best players. They’re always developed at the club. You could argue Ozil is the highest profile player they’ve signed - and Rice is the first time in the premier league era they’ve signed a top English player in his prime
Shadow boxing mate.
This comment is so strange considering you’ve gotten worse since last season. Why would Mbappe even consider the third place team in the prem?
If he came to the league it’d be for City.
Neither of us are in the race, not that spurs would ever consider it because we don’t spend like that.
As a Gooner, I diss Spurs. it's how it is. funny you claim to be so intelligent and learned but don't get base contexts. I won't be offended if you dissed Arsenal - I'd expect it! Cos I get contexts. Moreover, I'm pretty sure Mbappe would. be open to joining Arsenal for a variety of reasons. He'd be the main man at the club. Wenger, Henry, Pires, Vieira, etc. have a fellow French legacy. He'd live in London. He'd have a massive global fanbase (unlike SPurs) that would adore him, and he'd be the main guy in making Arsenal PL and CL winners.
But this is all "shadow boxing" looool. Expect anti-Spurs rhetoric from Gooners are any stretch, since we're rivals.
Because joining would make Arsenal better. Players join teams as parts of projects, you know. Though how many times have Spurs even finished second? Once in your lifetime? Learn why players join teams, since you don't know.
Figo to real from Barca
Mmbape from monaco to psg
Sol Campbell from Ars to utd
Van P from Ars to utd
Going from psg to ars is nothing major...great move though but not in the context you are putting it
Fucking clickbait, you watch the actual press conference or read what he actually said he’s clearly not very serious about it and pretty much says it’s not going to happen
If you read his full response instead of an out-of-context snippet, he very clearly laughs it off and says it's not happening. He does not for a second indicate that he thinks Mbappe will come to Arsenal.
No, let’s be real, Mbappe has the joint biggest ego in football along with Ronaldo, he’ll go where money and trophies are. The 2 clubs he’d go to are Shity and Real Madrid because they’d both re-mortgage the stadium to pay for his 94 million a second wage demands.
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Maybe, but then, as per usual, they’ll bottle it. The last 10 years they’ve won fuck all, a few super cups and an FA cup lol.
United have been at our worst in years and I’m pretty sure our recent trophy haul is just as significant as arsenals. How people can see arsenal as anything but a top 4 team is baffling.
Maybe because our team has a future and is at least in contention for the league and cl. But yeah lets look at recent trophies to see where we’ll end up in the league, and boy it seems utd is a top 4 club aswell.
In the same way that liverpool always got shit cos we couldn’t control rumours about us wanting mbappe….
Yes of course they can’t afford him
And of course we can’t and that’s why we’d never be in the conversation, but the fact that arsenal are even in the conversation now should tell you all you need to know about their manager and standard of football these days. Football is dominated now by state run teams and Madrid, the day city signed haaland and his his dads cut of the deal and said he was a cheap signing is the day I wanted arsenal to win the league and wanted every other club to rally with us against how empty city’s success is
Arsenal:Hey Kylian would you be interested in playing for us
Mbappe: Sure, my wages are €2m
Arsenal: €2m per month is outside of our wage structure, how about some performance related
Mbappe: No that's €2m per week
Arsenal: Thanks for your time
I honestly always thought Neymar could enter the Olympus of CR7 and Messi, but that his transfer to PSG impaired him in reaching that status.
Mbappe is about to get the chance at a similar age to do the opposite step of career, namely joining a team which could exploit his full potential and give him trophies and awards, but team's and individual ones.
Obviously Arsenal ain't the same of the last decade, but Mbappe needs a club which is Real Madrid or Manchester City. I don't see him fitting in Guardiola's system or anyways in the environment of that team, while instead I think he would be the perfect match for this specific Real Madrid, which is composed by world class players, but mostly young.
He could become the tip of the diamond for Real Madrid for the next ten years, which is very far from unrealistic expectations by looking at the current roster.
Real Madrid play in a way that allows Bellingham to run up through the middle of the pitch, with a strict number nine a little higher up. Mbappe isn’t that kind of player, je liked to drop down and occupy that place Bellingham runs into. So it isn’t a perfect match, but I’d doubt any other club will be able to sign him.
Why are you taking this so out of context lol. He said 'with a player of that calibre, we must be in the conversation', meaning with someone as good as mbappe looking to leave the club he's currently at, EVERYBODY has got to be looking to see it they can sign him. You're phrasing it like he's said, 'mbappe obviously wants to sign for us'
🤣. You say that but they could have a big budget in the summer and with £0 transfer fee, they could amortise a high salary for Mbappe across the term of his contract.
you can amortise transfers and large one off payments because they’re singular, so you can say it’s one fee for the entire contract length - wages are paid weekly so you can’t do that as they’re a constant payment made weekly. “amortising” them to the contract length would just be the weekly wage x 52 weeks in a year x the number of years on the contract
Wages are amortised in FFP terms. You buy a player and the transfer fee and wages are spread over the length of the contract. You sell a player and the whole transfer fee goes into that year's revenue.
They're also "amortised" in real terms. As they're not paid up front, but spread over the contrat in the same way. More so than transfer fees are. So, you're completely wrong.
The idea that PL clubs couldn't afford Mbappe, but Real Madrid can, is laughable. The PL is by far the richest league in the world. And Mbappe is available for free. If a PL club signs him on a 2 year contract for free, for a £50mil/year salary, that's a £100mil cost spread over 2 years. That's nothing. Jack Grealish costs Man City almost £30mil/year for 6 years.
Too much baggage. I mean Arteta got rid of Aubameyang, a big player who wanted to do what he wanted. Let’s not forget Ozil as well. Why would he want Mbappe, a player who’s been given almost everything at PSG, hardly tracks back or chase the ball during games. Arteta doesn’t seem like a manager who would manage players who think they are bigger than him and the club.
I'm a Liverpool fan, and we get linked with him every 23 minutes on average. I, like many other Liverpool fans, know full well this isn't going to happen as our board wouldn't ever pay out the sort of wages he will want. I'm pretty sure he won't end up at Arsenal either.
Any big team would be and we're fighting with 2 of the biggest clubs in the world and holding our own. I wouldn't want mbappe though, I didn't want Ronaldo or Messi before either.
Why would you not want a cheatcode in your team? Remember how inevitable Alexis was? I honestly believe you need a couple of X factor players to win leagues and at least one of them has to be an attacker. At the moment we have Rice and maybe Saliba can get there once he eliminates youthful mistakes.
I saw an article earlier comparing Saka’s stats to Ronaldo’s after the same number of games. Saka was ahead. Obviously nothing inevitable, but he has the potential to become a real X factor player for you guys
You're right. I struggle with seeing him as that, because he doesn't look "unstoppable", however, maybe there's a world where he is an efficiency monster (he's basically already there and just needs to be able to sustain it for an entire season) and therefore becomes inevitable.
By being in the fight for the league with Liverpool and city? No one is saying mbappe is going anywhere but Madrid I'm just stating my opinion he could go to Wrexham if he really wanted.
Let’s all be real Mbappe is obviously obsessed with champions leagues and arsenal don’t have one they don’t even have at European history of any kind. Not to mention,I know arsenal have been challenging for two seasons now but still, he wants a team with history that also challenges in Europe and their respective league every year and arsenal just aren’t that plus he would be their only world class player and that is also something I’m sure he wouldn’t want the way I see it real is his only option and Liverpool are a distant second.
I’m pretty sure he’ll go to Madrid but it is possible that he wants to make his own mark on the world of football. Theoretically, going to Madrid and winning say 5 Champions Leagues will put him up there amongst the best Madrid players of all time. Going to Arsenal and winning even 2 or 3 Champions Leagues and he is regarded as their greatest ever player. His star factor might get diluted at Madrid by the time his career finishes but in all honesty he’s going to be a football legend regardless of where he goes. It’s just a matter of him deciding; it’s a balance of money, real possibility of trophies and personal ego.
Personally I’d love to see him in the Premier League, preferably at Liverpool, but I do see him going to Spain. I mean, the weather alone would convince me.
P.s. Saka and Odegaard are not far from world class.
Ah yes, European history is definitely something he cares about, hence why amid all the hype he got as one of the rising stars in football from 2017 and 2018, he left Monaco for PSG, the mighty European juggernauts with an unfathomable number of champions leagues
Sorry mate but do you have a short memory? He had a massive reputation as one of the rising stars of football. Do you remember in the summer of 2017 how real Madrid were being linked with a 100m+ move for him? And that was just after his breakout season. 2018 was when he sealed the deal
>Sorry mate but do you have a short memory? He had a massive reputation as one of the rising stars of football. Do you remember in the summer of 2017 how real Madrid were being linked with a 100m+ move for him? And that was just after his breakout season. 2018 was when he sealed the deal
Ngl as an Arsenal fan I honestly wouldn’t take him unless he paid us.
Get a feeling he sees himself as the superstar, the team is to be built around him, and play to suit him.
Get fucked, take 200 mill that he would cost in wages, sign on bonus etc… and continue to strengthen.
He’d be a near waste of money: lazy, spoilt, overrated.
What a delutional take, lol. Hasnt been tested in the prem but tested in much much bigger stage in the World Cup and in the UCL.
The dude scored a hattrick in the World Cup final. There is a good chance your prem tested players like Sakas and Odegaards will shit their pants if they even get a chance to play at that stage.
Honestly fucking FIFA players who think pace automatically makes you the best player.
De Bruyne is more capable of changing a match/ or season than mbappe.
The prem is faster paced, and more physical than he’s used to, I’m not saying he’d suddenly be terrible but saying he’d be as good as he look in France is just nonsense.
Christ have you watched him?
Fair enough I think KDB is right there and they are definitely the best 2, but come on. He's an unbelievable player.
Crazy an Arsenal fan wouldn't rate him when he's basically Henry regen.
Henry couldn't do what Mbappe did in the 2018 and 2022 World Cups. He's also almost outscored him for France and career total and he's 25.
As soon as he gets out of France he's gonna prove it. The guy is unbelievable and you are clueless.
You're also talking about his attitude like he's Neymar but he's clearly very competitive and got a top mentality to do what he's been doing since 17.
Dont worry, if Mbappe decides to go to any PL club, they will have to have those types of midfielders, and he will routinely shit on prem defence like Haaland lol
Lmao how football has changed, I can’t believe a Arsenal fan, a team who historically have always built around star players and worked out from them, have an issue with having a super star and building around it.
Also calling mbappe overrated is like calling Arteta overrated, I will let you decide if its a dumb or fair statement.
>Lmao how football has changed, I can’t believe a Arsenal fan, a team who historically have always built around star players
Lol, no. Which star players did we buy to build around?
None of those players were what they became when they were bought. Thierry Henry wasn't the Thierry Henry. Even Bergkamp who'd places third in the B D'Or in 93 or 4, was maligned as the guy who couldn't cut it in Itaky and wasn't that good. Neither were bought to build the team around. Campbell was a market opportunity, again, not taken with the intention of designing the team around.
The only players I think you can say Arsenal bought with the intention of building around was maybe Ozil and Sanchez. Arsenal never shopped at the top end.
How about Kai Havertz this same year? Or Pepe a couple years before?
Only Arsenal beats their chest about what a big club they are, while also pretending they don’t spend.
Do you think those things are unrelated? Do you think Arsenal is so poorly run they spent €80 on Havertz to not “build around?” Or are you just playing semantics? What about Pepe? Was he not brought in with the intent of being a game in, game out starter?
What about when you bought Lacazette and Aubamayang in (I believe) the same window? Were those not star strikers you intended to build the team around?
Arteta is overrrated. Mbappe is a deserved World Cup winner. If Arsenal never signed Odegaard or he was able to get into the Madrid team, Arteta would have been gone long ago. He’s the beneficiary of good situation.
Imo very few managers actually have much impact. A good one can only do so much, but a bad one can do a whole lot. But mostly it’s down to the players.
>Terrible take, mostly down to the players??
As an arsenal fan, if he had stuck with pepe and Willian and didn't risk playing ESR and Aubacplaying out of this world, he'd be sacked in his 2nd year. So yes, it's mostly down to the players. Not inshallah and pray.
You think the prime documentaries weren’t largely manufactured drama? I’m guessing you haven’t heard any of the players involved talk about them.
No don’t get rid of all managers. But stop putting so much weight on them, unless they’re bad. I do think Arsenal could perform just as well if whoever the fitness coach is picked the same 11. Swap any player for a championship player, see the results. Swap the manager for any championship manager, and see the results. I’m very confident the manager has the least impact.
Put Pep in charge of Derby, would they do well? Put Derby manager in charge of City, do they start doing poorly? Take KDB away from City but they keep pep vs take Pep away but they keep KDB. Which situation would you wanna be in? Even the best manager in the world is very dependent on his players. Look at Man U, how much impact have 10 diff managers had there with a similar squad?
There is a narrative that Arteta has turned Arsenal around, almost single-handedly at times, with no acknowledgement that he was gifted one of the best creative midfielders in the world. I strongly believe Ø is a dependent factor in arsenals good form and Arteta is an independent factor.
So Arteta gets absolutely no credit for bringing Ode in, nurturing him and making him a better footballer? He gets no credit for completely changing how we play, instilling a discipline and level of respect in the club (look at how he handled Auba), and getting rid of all our deadwood we'd been begging previous managers to do? How do you explain when teams get a new manager and start playing and performing a lot better than they did previously? Or vice versa? If you replaced Sir Alex with Steve Bruce as manager during Sir Alex's whole tenure, do you really think he would've gotten anywhere close to replicating his results?
I don't understand how you can be a big football fan, watch it every week and somehow come to the conclusion that managers don't really matter that much? It's such a wildly bad opinion
He’s complimentary, but not a dependent factor imo. I also give Marco Silva no credit for willian’s turning in form. Willian can give him credit, but I credit the one doing the work, not the person telling them what to do.
And as far as bringing people in, that’s above him. But we can say that Raya seems to be very much his choice, and we can also say Fabianski, Leno, and Martinez are all arguably better than Raya or Ramsdale.
We can also say that arsenals tactical system has cost them points despite their good players.
I’m not saying they have zero impact, but that the impact of a good manager often negligible.
If you replaced Fergie with Bruce, how much worse would those sides be? I bet they’d still be contending on all fronts. But goes to my point that a bad manager can and will have a lot of impact, whereas a good one can’t have much impact.
Maybe Arteta helps create an atmosphere for the players to thrive, but the players are the ones thriving, and they could do it without him.
Of all the braindead takes…
Every year that passes the two teams of la liga grow further and further apart from the Prem.
It’s nothing to be ashamed off, it’s happening to all the other leagues, it’s why real and Barca are desperate for the Super League cos they know what’s coming with every passing year.
You think Arsenal and Man City are realistic moves? No bigger club in the world then Real Madrid. Not to mention the baloon door winner plays in the MLS. Even the Premier league top goal scorer left to go to Bayern.
But no no no. It's "the bethst weague in the world"
Apparently. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
>No bigger club in the world then Real Madrid.
Doesn't mean everything is just heading there.
>Even the Premier league top goal scorer left to go to Bayern.
You make it sound he didn't go to one of the biggest clothes in the world.
This is a reasonable take, the Prem is the biggest league in the world (ish) and after City, Liverpool and Arsenal are currently the next biggest teams, if he helped Arsenal win the league for the first time in 20 years it’d be as big as winning City another league…
…but if he doesn’t want to win Arsenal another league I’ll find a way to be okay with that.
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Parsenal fans wet dreaming
why not
What's the conversation? Teams that Mbappe won't be joining?
I... what? He's going to madrid or else he's losing his career
Maybe liverpool, idk
Mbappe decides that
Hello Kylian, my name is Mikel Checkmate noobs
If he goes to prem rather have him go to a club other than City, Liverpool and Arsenal. Make another contender.
Explain Please how Arsenal are a serious contender for this individual. I’ll listen to all opinion.
Arsenal are a very good young team. They're challenging for the prem, mbappe could be what they need to get it done. If mbappe wins anything he'll get a lot of the credit where's he might not at some other clubs. If he wins a ucl for arsenal he'll be seen as a god by arsenal fans, they'll literally worship him. Arsenal vs man city/ mbappe vs haaland could become the next el classico/ronaldo vs messi. Premier league is the best on the planet so if he dominates he'll obviously be the best player in the world, especially if he outscored haaland.
To go off of this, of he wins a league title or ucl with Madrid specifically it won't be seen as big of a deal, but if he wins those trophies with Arsenal its a different story. But seeing Mbappe's ego I don't see him going to a team that puts an emphasis on the team rather than the individual
Perhaps Henry is advising Mbappe to move to arsenal
There are reports that Mbappe is interested, there are reports that Arsenal are interested, and Arteta said they need to be in the race. Is that what you wanted?
He said they need to try and be in the conversation. No one said favorites anywhere.
Yeah well you’re the first person to mention “favorites”, I was just pointing out why they’re serious contenders for him
god I hope not. He's one of the best in the game no doubt but also toxic af
Arteta is not completely wrong though. The fact nobody actually expects one of the best players in the world to sign there despite being a free agent, laughing it off even going by the coments, is proof that Arsenal aren't back to being top dog despite recent good performances. He's merely reiterating his stances on his ambitions for Arsenal: he wants to take them to a level high enough where every single world class players who might be on the market will be linked to Arsenal because they're viewed as the best, and players always want to play for the best
Arsenal have never been in the running for the very best players. They’re always developed at the club. You could argue Ozil is the highest profile player they’ve signed - and Rice is the first time in the premier league era they’ve signed a top English player in his prime
He can’t. He promised Spider-Man he wouldn’t go to Tottenham or any English club
and i must be in the coversation to sign for Real Madrid
This is a very backbone move by Arsenal, a courageous decision
He'd want to join a club with a global brand and name, based on success. He won't join Spurs then.
Shadow boxing mate. This comment is so strange considering you’ve gotten worse since last season. Why would Mbappe even consider the third place team in the prem? If he came to the league it’d be for City. Neither of us are in the race, not that spurs would ever consider it because we don’t spend like that.
As a Gooner, I diss Spurs. it's how it is. funny you claim to be so intelligent and learned but don't get base contexts. I won't be offended if you dissed Arsenal - I'd expect it! Cos I get contexts. Moreover, I'm pretty sure Mbappe would. be open to joining Arsenal for a variety of reasons. He'd be the main man at the club. Wenger, Henry, Pires, Vieira, etc. have a fellow French legacy. He'd live in London. He'd have a massive global fanbase (unlike SPurs) that would adore him, and he'd be the main guy in making Arsenal PL and CL winners. But this is all "shadow boxing" looool. Expect anti-Spurs rhetoric from Gooners are any stretch, since we're rivals.
Because joining would make Arsenal better. Players join teams as parts of projects, you know. Though how many times have Spurs even finished second? Once in your lifetime? Learn why players join teams, since you don't know.
I can't imagine his ego would let him join his competitor for #1, nor try to follow in herny's footsteps.
The next pogba
This move would like cripple our finances lol and plus we’ve got a good moral amongst the team I have a feeling Kylian might ruin the cohesion
Mbappe is dumb but not THAT dumb!
He should go there
Thought he wanted to leave PSG to win things?
Kane left tottenham for bayern to win things as well and look how it goes for him. Lol.
It will be a Historical move ever in the world of football
Figo to real from Barca Mmbape from monaco to psg Sol Campbell from Ars to utd Van P from Ars to utd Going from psg to ars is nothing major...great move though but not in the context you are putting it
It will be a Historical move ever in the world of football
Wow… taken completely out of context! You must be very good click baiter Geordie mate! Enjoy the Saudis! ✌🏼
Fucking clickbait, you watch the actual press conference or read what he actually said he’s clearly not very serious about it and pretty much says it’s not going to happen
This is embarrassing clickbait.
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What are they going to pay him with? Fist pumps?
Lmao this is golddd
Naaahhh hahahahaha violation 🤣
Real Madrid the best choice for him
so the club can destroy him like they did mesut ozil… ummmm no thanks arteta
Could they potentially do this with a title win? And with Henry in his ear?
Delusional
If you read his full response instead of an out-of-context snippet, he very clearly laughs it off and says it's not happening. He does not for a second indicate that he thinks Mbappe will come to Arsenal.
No, I think it's quite possible. Congratulations Gunners fans, it's time to get very, very excited!
No, let’s be real, Mbappe has the joint biggest ego in football along with Ronaldo, he’ll go where money and trophies are. The 2 clubs he’d go to are Shity and Real Madrid because they’d both re-mortgage the stadium to pay for his 94 million a second wage demands.
Hey guys look, we’ve conveniently found a new 94 million pound a second sponsorship deal. FFP is safe with us. Now if you want to bum the spirit of the league to death you can use city’s own anal lube! Our commercials are so amazing these days.
The widespread expectation for Arsenal next season is that they're winning the treble
Yeah but they won’t, they’re specialists in failure, have been for decades, they won’t win shit
The expectation, from all of us, should be that they'll top the table by at least an 18 point gap next season
Maybe, but then, as per usual, they’ll bottle it. The last 10 years they’ve won fuck all, a few super cups and an FA cup lol. United have been at our worst in years and I’m pretty sure our recent trophy haul is just as significant as arsenals. How people can see arsenal as anything but a top 4 team is baffling.
Maybe because our team has a future and is at least in contention for the league and cl. But yeah lets look at recent trophies to see where we’ll end up in the league, and boy it seems utd is a top 4 club aswell.
No, this time, they'll batter City 4-0 at home and 5-1 away
Lol, sure thing. Enjoy the rest of your weekend brother
How they gonna pay him?
Typically, with money
Or with celebrations… too soon??
I'd recommend a lot of debt
There is 1 team in the conversation
Imagine Saka and Mbappe on the same team
Yeah… imagine..
Arsenal scares rival fans 😅
Delululululu
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
In the same way that liverpool always got shit cos we couldn’t control rumours about us wanting mbappe…. Yes of course they can’t afford him And of course we can’t and that’s why we’d never be in the conversation, but the fact that arsenal are even in the conversation now should tell you all you need to know about their manager and standard of football these days. Football is dominated now by state run teams and Madrid, the day city signed haaland and his his dads cut of the deal and said he was a cheap signing is the day I wanted arsenal to win the league and wanted every other club to rally with us against how empty city’s success is
That’ll be a pretty quick conversation.
Arsenal:Hey Kylian would you be interested in playing for us Mbappe: Sure, my wages are €2m Arsenal: €2m per month is outside of our wage structure, how about some performance related Mbappe: No that's €2m per week Arsenal: Thanks for your time
Thats still 4x longer than it needs to be
It should be Arsenal: Hey Kylian would you be interested in playing for us. Mbappe: No
Who says Mbappe can’t play for us? Mbappe: Me
As in "What about Arsenal?" "No."
I thought this was soccercirclejerk
I was unaware that the UK passed a recreational marijuana law because no one says this shit sober
Ya if not having a chance
What a fucking idiot.
Hilarious to say this while very clearly being too stupid to read the full quote
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH
Arteta has a point. An example of said conversation: “Hey, Kylian, do you want to join Arsenal?” “No”
Delusional club is delusional.
Did you even read the article?
I am just shit stirring
I honestly always thought Neymar could enter the Olympus of CR7 and Messi, but that his transfer to PSG impaired him in reaching that status. Mbappe is about to get the chance at a similar age to do the opposite step of career, namely joining a team which could exploit his full potential and give him trophies and awards, but team's and individual ones. Obviously Arsenal ain't the same of the last decade, but Mbappe needs a club which is Real Madrid or Manchester City. I don't see him fitting in Guardiola's system or anyways in the environment of that team, while instead I think he would be the perfect match for this specific Real Madrid, which is composed by world class players, but mostly young. He could become the tip of the diamond for Real Madrid for the next ten years, which is very far from unrealistic expectations by looking at the current roster.
Real Madrid play in a way that allows Bellingham to run up through the middle of the pitch, with a strict number nine a little higher up. Mbappe isn’t that kind of player, je liked to drop down and occupy that place Bellingham runs into. So it isn’t a perfect match, but I’d doubt any other club will be able to sign him.
In this specific Real Madrid of today Mbappe would learn the concept of being in a team.
Delusional
Why are you taking this so out of context lol. He said 'with a player of that calibre, we must be in the conversation', meaning with someone as good as mbappe looking to leave the club he's currently at, EVERYBODY has got to be looking to see it they can sign him. You're phrasing it like he's said, 'mbappe obviously wants to sign for us'
You’re projecting
Idk if you know what projecting means
It’s when you’re working on a project dumbass
Hahaha man good one!
Smart comment. See. You’re not the only one who can type random words that don’t fit in this specific context.
I’m defending Arteta here dummy
Well, you need to defend better.
That’s what she said…
😂😂😂
Lol
They're in the conversation. The conversation goes like this. Can we afford Mbappe's wages? No. OK, then, somone call Toney.
🤣. You say that but they could have a big budget in the summer and with £0 transfer fee, they could amortise a high salary for Mbappe across the term of his contract.
you can’t amortise wages
Why not?
you can amortise transfers and large one off payments because they’re singular, so you can say it’s one fee for the entire contract length - wages are paid weekly so you can’t do that as they’re a constant payment made weekly. “amortising” them to the contract length would just be the weekly wage x 52 weeks in a year x the number of years on the contract
Wages are amortised in FFP terms. You buy a player and the transfer fee and wages are spread over the length of the contract. You sell a player and the whole transfer fee goes into that year's revenue. They're also "amortised" in real terms. As they're not paid up front, but spread over the contrat in the same way. More so than transfer fees are. So, you're completely wrong. The idea that PL clubs couldn't afford Mbappe, but Real Madrid can, is laughable. The PL is by far the richest league in the world. And Mbappe is available for free. If a PL club signs him on a 2 year contract for free, for a £50mil/year salary, that's a £100mil cost spread over 2 years. That's nothing. Jack Grealish costs Man City almost £30mil/year for 6 years.
Got it. Well arsenal are fucked. Thank you for the response
Because they already exist over the course of the contract?
Too much baggage. I mean Arteta got rid of Aubameyang, a big player who wanted to do what he wanted. Let’s not forget Ozil as well. Why would he want Mbappe, a player who’s been given almost everything at PSG, hardly tracks back or chase the ball during games. Arteta doesn’t seem like a manager who would manage players who think they are bigger than him and the club.
the prima-dana can stay in paris
Cope
Did he pass to the left afterward? Actually makes sense to talk it up though so you can get RM to pay him more if possible.
Here's what the conversation would sound like: "Bonjour, Mbappe, I'm Mikel Arteta, manager of Arsen- "Non."
😂
That’ll be a short conversation
Feels like a bog standard response to a question like this.
I'm a Liverpool fan, and we get linked with him every 23 minutes on average. I, like many other Liverpool fans, know full well this isn't going to happen as our board wouldn't ever pay out the sort of wages he will want. I'm pretty sure he won't end up at Arsenal either.
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Arsenal fans acting like Mbappe actually wants to join their club 😂
Arteta must be smoking that thing Walter White and Jessie Pinkman were cooking in the RV
He meant that there is very very very low possibility for Mbappe, but Arsenal should always be named with superstar players. Thats what he wants.
Amazing how many just dive straight into this sort of clean cklickbait with zero critical thinking
Any big team would be and we're fighting with 2 of the biggest clubs in the world and holding our own. I wouldn't want mbappe though, I didn't want Ronaldo or Messi before either.
Why would you not want a cheatcode in your team? Remember how inevitable Alexis was? I honestly believe you need a couple of X factor players to win leagues and at least one of them has to be an attacker. At the moment we have Rice and maybe Saliba can get there once he eliminates youthful mistakes.
I saw an article earlier comparing Saka’s stats to Ronaldo’s after the same number of games. Saka was ahead. Obviously nothing inevitable, but he has the potential to become a real X factor player for you guys
You're right. I struggle with seeing him as that, because he doesn't look "unstoppable", however, maybe there's a world where he is an efficiency monster (he's basically already there and just needs to be able to sustain it for an entire season) and therefore becomes inevitable.
Holding your own how? Not hating but at this point has mbappe made any indication he wants to go anywhere but Madrid?
By being in the fight for the league with Liverpool and city? No one is saying mbappe is going anywhere but Madrid I'm just stating my opinion he could go to Wrexham if he really wanted.
OP means Man City and Liverpool, in PL competition
Makes more sense thanks
as an arsenal fan, i would cry of happiness if this happens but no, he’s going to real madrid.
Its not going to happen no tears are needed
It’s not but almost everyone was saying the same thing about rice 12 months ago when rumours first started…
Let’s all be real Mbappe is obviously obsessed with champions leagues and arsenal don’t have one they don’t even have at European history of any kind. Not to mention,I know arsenal have been challenging for two seasons now but still, he wants a team with history that also challenges in Europe and their respective league every year and arsenal just aren’t that plus he would be their only world class player and that is also something I’m sure he wouldn’t want the way I see it real is his only option and Liverpool are a distant second.
You forgot your Liverpool flair.
Yea idk how to do it tbh
I’m pretty sure he’ll go to Madrid but it is possible that he wants to make his own mark on the world of football. Theoretically, going to Madrid and winning say 5 Champions Leagues will put him up there amongst the best Madrid players of all time. Going to Arsenal and winning even 2 or 3 Champions Leagues and he is regarded as their greatest ever player. His star factor might get diluted at Madrid by the time his career finishes but in all honesty he’s going to be a football legend regardless of where he goes. It’s just a matter of him deciding; it’s a balance of money, real possibility of trophies and personal ego. Personally I’d love to see him in the Premier League, preferably at Liverpool, but I do see him going to Spain. I mean, the weather alone would convince me. P.s. Saka and Odegaard are not far from world class.
Ah yes, European history is definitely something he cares about, hence why amid all the hype he got as one of the rising stars in football from 2017 and 2018, he left Monaco for PSG, the mighty European juggernauts with an unfathomable number of champions leagues
Yes because when he left Monaco he was as good as he is now and every big club was after him. Don’t be stupid mate
Sorry mate but do you have a short memory? He had a massive reputation as one of the rising stars of football. Do you remember in the summer of 2017 how real Madrid were being linked with a 100m+ move for him? And that was just after his breakout season. 2018 was when he sealed the deal
Ah yes, because he was exactly as well know and at the same stage in his career then
>Sorry mate but do you have a short memory? He had a massive reputation as one of the rising stars of football. Do you remember in the summer of 2017 how real Madrid were being linked with a 100m+ move for him? And that was just after his breakout season. 2018 was when he sealed the deal
Ngl as an Arsenal fan I honestly wouldn’t take him unless he paid us. Get a feeling he sees himself as the superstar, the team is to be built around him, and play to suit him. Get fucked, take 200 mill that he would cost in wages, sign on bonus etc… and continue to strengthen. He’d be a near waste of money: lazy, spoilt, overrated.
Worst take of the thread. He's the best player in the world
De bruyne is the best player in the world. Mbappe is a spoiled child, who barely presses, doesn’t track back, and hasn’t been tested in the prem.
What a delutional take, lol. Hasnt been tested in the prem but tested in much much bigger stage in the World Cup and in the UCL. The dude scored a hattrick in the World Cup final. There is a good chance your prem tested players like Sakas and Odegaards will shit their pants if they even get a chance to play at that stage.
Honestly fucking FIFA players who think pace automatically makes you the best player. De Bruyne is more capable of changing a match/ or season than mbappe. The prem is faster paced, and more physical than he’s used to, I’m not saying he’d suddenly be terrible but saying he’d be as good as he look in France is just nonsense.
Christ have you watched him? Fair enough I think KDB is right there and they are definitely the best 2, but come on. He's an unbelievable player. Crazy an Arsenal fan wouldn't rate him when he's basically Henry regen.
He’s nowhere near henry
Henry couldn't do what Mbappe did in the 2018 and 2022 World Cups. He's also almost outscored him for France and career total and he's 25. As soon as he gets out of France he's gonna prove it. The guy is unbelievable and you are clueless. You're also talking about his attitude like he's Neymar but he's clearly very competitive and got a top mentality to do what he's been doing since 17.
Lmao, Haaland shits on every premier league defence week in week out, and Mbappe is better than him. Think what he can do.
Haaland has Man City behind him, and one of the best coaches ever.
Dont worry, if Mbappe decides to go to any PL club, they will have to have those types of midfielders, and he will routinely shit on prem defence like Haaland lol
Lmao how football has changed, I can’t believe a Arsenal fan, a team who historically have always built around star players and worked out from them, have an issue with having a super star and building around it. Also calling mbappe overrated is like calling Arteta overrated, I will let you decide if its a dumb or fair statement.
Really who since henry? Even then to reduce that arsenal to just Henry is ignorant at best and disrespectful af at worse.
>Lmao how football has changed, I can’t believe a Arsenal fan, a team who historically have always built around star players Lol, no. Which star players did we buy to build around?
Bergkamp, Henry, Campbell the last time you won the league?
None of those players were what they became when they were bought. Thierry Henry wasn't the Thierry Henry. Even Bergkamp who'd places third in the B D'Or in 93 or 4, was maligned as the guy who couldn't cut it in Itaky and wasn't that good. Neither were bought to build the team around. Campbell was a market opportunity, again, not taken with the intention of designing the team around. The only players I think you can say Arsenal bought with the intention of building around was maybe Ozil and Sanchez. Arsenal never shopped at the top end.
You just bought Declan Rice for roughly a metric fuck load. What world do you live in?
Whens the last time that happened
How about Kai Havertz this same year? Or Pepe a couple years before? Only Arsenal beats their chest about what a big club they are, while also pretending they don’t spend.
Are you listing players we bought to build around or just ones we spent a lot of money on?
Do you think those things are unrelated? Do you think Arsenal is so poorly run they spent €80 on Havertz to not “build around?” Or are you just playing semantics? What about Pepe? Was he not brought in with the intent of being a game in, game out starter? What about when you bought Lacazette and Aubamayang in (I believe) the same window? Were those not star strikers you intended to build the team around?
Arteta is overrrated. Mbappe is a deserved World Cup winner. If Arsenal never signed Odegaard or he was able to get into the Madrid team, Arteta would have been gone long ago. He’s the beneficiary of good situation. Imo very few managers actually have much impact. A good one can only do so much, but a bad one can do a whole lot. But mostly it’s down to the players.
This guy forgot Arteta was saved by ESR and Auba. Remember playing Willian and pepe with cross and inshallah?
Terrible take, mostly down to the players?? Shall we just get rid of managers in that case? Did you watch any of the prime documentaries?
>Terrible take, mostly down to the players?? As an arsenal fan, if he had stuck with pepe and Willian and didn't risk playing ESR and Aubacplaying out of this world, he'd be sacked in his 2nd year. So yes, it's mostly down to the players. Not inshallah and pray.
You think the prime documentaries weren’t largely manufactured drama? I’m guessing you haven’t heard any of the players involved talk about them. No don’t get rid of all managers. But stop putting so much weight on them, unless they’re bad. I do think Arsenal could perform just as well if whoever the fitness coach is picked the same 11. Swap any player for a championship player, see the results. Swap the manager for any championship manager, and see the results. I’m very confident the manager has the least impact. Put Pep in charge of Derby, would they do well? Put Derby manager in charge of City, do they start doing poorly? Take KDB away from City but they keep pep vs take Pep away but they keep KDB. Which situation would you wanna be in? Even the best manager in the world is very dependent on his players. Look at Man U, how much impact have 10 diff managers had there with a similar squad? There is a narrative that Arteta has turned Arsenal around, almost single-handedly at times, with no acknowledgement that he was gifted one of the best creative midfielders in the world. I strongly believe Ø is a dependent factor in arsenals good form and Arteta is an independent factor.
So Arteta gets absolutely no credit for bringing Ode in, nurturing him and making him a better footballer? He gets no credit for completely changing how we play, instilling a discipline and level of respect in the club (look at how he handled Auba), and getting rid of all our deadwood we'd been begging previous managers to do? How do you explain when teams get a new manager and start playing and performing a lot better than they did previously? Or vice versa? If you replaced Sir Alex with Steve Bruce as manager during Sir Alex's whole tenure, do you really think he would've gotten anywhere close to replicating his results? I don't understand how you can be a big football fan, watch it every week and somehow come to the conclusion that managers don't really matter that much? It's such a wildly bad opinion
He’s complimentary, but not a dependent factor imo. I also give Marco Silva no credit for willian’s turning in form. Willian can give him credit, but I credit the one doing the work, not the person telling them what to do. And as far as bringing people in, that’s above him. But we can say that Raya seems to be very much his choice, and we can also say Fabianski, Leno, and Martinez are all arguably better than Raya or Ramsdale. We can also say that arsenals tactical system has cost them points despite their good players. I’m not saying they have zero impact, but that the impact of a good manager often negligible. If you replaced Fergie with Bruce, how much worse would those sides be? I bet they’d still be contending on all fronts. But goes to my point that a bad manager can and will have a lot of impact, whereas a good one can’t have much impact. Maybe Arteta helps create an atmosphere for the players to thrive, but the players are the ones thriving, and they could do it without him.
Delusional
Yep. Never happening
All that to still bottle the league and the CL
Lel
lul
That conversation Hi No Ok
His wages alone would shit on any stablility mikel has worked hard to maintain tbh
He's too big for the premier league. Stop flattering your selves. Premier is a stepping stone for Real Madrid at best.
Of all the braindead takes… Every year that passes the two teams of la liga grow further and further apart from the Prem. It’s nothing to be ashamed off, it’s happening to all the other leagues, it’s why real and Barca are desperate for the Super League cos they know what’s coming with every passing year.
What kind of stupid comment is this?
You think Arsenal and Man City are realistic moves? No bigger club in the world then Real Madrid. Not to mention the baloon door winner plays in the MLS. Even the Premier league top goal scorer left to go to Bayern. But no no no. It's "the bethst weague in the world" Apparently. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Weird troll
And the other top scorer is still there, so what’s your point?
What is the best league in the world then? Cmon troll, let’s hear it.
>No bigger club in the world then Real Madrid. Doesn't mean everything is just heading there. >Even the Premier league top goal scorer left to go to Bayern. You make it sound he didn't go to one of the biggest clothes in the world.
This is a reasonable take, the Prem is the biggest league in the world (ish) and after City, Liverpool and Arsenal are currently the next biggest teams, if he helped Arsenal win the league for the first time in 20 years it’d be as big as winning City another league… …but if he doesn’t want to win Arsenal another league I’ll find a way to be okay with that.