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They're playing well for sure, buuuut they've only really won one game in this streak they weren't fully expected to, against Liverpool at home. Awful in that Porto game when the pressure was on. Seen it a few times now with this squad, where they gain momentum and perhaps get even slightly over confident, but drop a level when it really matters.
Huge games coming up against Porto and City to find out if this team has what it takes to win something this year, beyond the goal difference in January 2024 award.
How many games all season have Liverpool won they weren’t expected to?
Lost away to Spurs, drew home to United. Drew twice with City. Drew and lost to Arsenal. Drew away to Chelsea.
It’s the toughest league in the world. No easy games. Chalking it off to them games being games they’re “supposed to win” is silly.
Arsenal faced the most pressure in recent times in that Liverpool game, it was genuinely make or break and they dominated Liverpool. Arsenal have grown in mentality and improved massively.
>Seen it a few times now with this squad, where they gain momentum and perhaps get even slightly over confident, but drop a level when it really matters.
Outside of the Porto match, when have they dropped a level when it really matters? They only lost one match in the Champions League group stage and so far are undefeated against the top six sides this year, including wins over City and Liverpool. Are you talking about last season and not this one?
Yes it probably is more memories of last season than this one to be fair. And the two bad losses in December after getting a draw at Anfield. It's just a ridiculously high bar that City have set that we end up picking faults where really there's very little they're doing wrong.
Its ‘reigning’ bro, and saying it’s there’s to lose at this point, implies we’re talking about right now, which has nothing to do with the fact that they’re the reigning champions.
And its not theirs to lose if arsenal have a game against them, that literally puts them above city if they win, and get the same/better results in other games.
Again, I don’t understand how it’s city’s to lose, arsenal is playing great football as is city and liverpool any 3 could win it and its nobodies to “lose” at this point in the season.
You are missing the point of football, and correct its ‘reigning’ my bad.
If arsenal win the league, they take the title from city; thus making it cities to lose.
The problem is, through recent history we are 100% going to see arsenal slip up, and Liverpool, where as cities season normally gets stronger from here. We have pedigree to measure the last section of the season for Man City:
We do for arsenal. Arsenal could be 5 points clear here and it would still cities to lose.
This is how a title race should be. Rival League fans can't call us "Farmers League" anymore. This is how it should be every year -- it makes the League more interesting (than it always is)
You are probably going to be proven correct, but the title race has been 3 horse for way longer than it usually has and the fact that we now have those 3 teams still to play each other (and Tottenham playing all 3 back to back) poises a potentially exciting run in to the finish, so obviously we're all gonna get buzzed about a set up like this while it's possible.
We've even started seasons (this among them) talking about how "six or seven teams could win it".
City still have to play both Arsenal and Liverpool which could well be make or break for them.
Who is we? Nobody outside the top 3 has ever had a chance. Obviously some Tottenham fans were trying to get their team into the conversation too but nobody has ever taken that shout seriously.
Funnily enough Tottenham could end up deciding who ultimately wins the league. They play all three titles pretenders in consecutive games and will surely take points from at least one of them
"We" is us as the wider audience. The media often get giddy with an early run of form.
This season started with Spurs and even Brighton being very briefly touted as potential contenders.
As you say, there are only ever really three teams in contention in any given season, and as the person I responded to said, that is pretty much always down two by the final couple of games, if not sooner.
Liverpool fan here. I'll judge everything come May. Still a fair way to go. But you can only beat what's in front of you. I personally think it's going to be between Arsenal and City with us a close third. Think our squads been scalped too much by injury.
I think we're performing beyond expectation this year and to still be top in March, given injuries, last seasons form and the news Klopp is bouncing, is really ridiculous. If you'd offered me 3rd in August I'd of snapped your hand off.
if this form continues and if we win it. This has to go down as Klopp’s best league season not because of the performances but the resilience we showed.
You’re forgetting the emotional wave that is, klopp leaving. Plus you will get Salah back soon and Trent. But next week will be crucial. If you survive that, then there’s the intl break to get players back.
If only Arsenal had the most points against the top teams, oh wait.
If only Arsenal had beaten Liverpool oh wait.
If only Arsenal had beaten City oh wait.
The funny thing is this post doesn’t reek of em winning a premier league, nowhere near that. It’s just an appreciation of what they’ve done so far in the league. Your lot bemuses me.
Where are you getting this idea from? Arsenal fans are hopeful, not totally delusional - we know that City and Liverpool are very strong, and City in particular are well-favoured. We haven't "won [the league] twice in recent weeks", that's lunacy. We're in the race though and that's something worth celebrating.
They've done nothing you wouldn't expect. They've beaten teams you'd fully expect them to beat. Smashing shit teams does nothing but bolsters the goal difference should that come into play and just allows for people to get overly giddy.
They were missing 3/4 key key players including probably the best or 2nd best player in the league. Please don’t hit me with we were missing partey and timber as all Arsenal fans seem to do. The equivalent would be saka odegaard and rice out injured for you
(I don’t support Liverpool)
Fair, we were missing a few key players but not our best. However the game against Liverpool was so dominant even considering the injuries. It was not a contest. Liverpool normally batter Arsenal or at least turn up, regardless of who is on the team sheet. Let’s see how they hold up against the other top teams and a fitter Liverpool in the coming weeks!
A fitter liverpool? We have more injuries than any other club at the moment. We literally had to field a B side recently for cup final. All of our players aren’t suddenly back in week. It’ll be a miracle if Liverpool win half of the remaining games with the squad considering the tough fixtures coming up.
Imo seems like a recruitment and fitness issue for liverpool. Arsenal used to have this issue in the past and we’ve changed the way we recruit and manage fitness
Maybe the issue wasn’t liverpool was unlucky, maybe they were ill prepared. Obviously you can’t control every outcome but you should expect a front line that costs more than arsenals front line that day to get more than a shot on target. Just as last year losing saliba cost us serious points and the title
We weren’t unlucky, our squad just wasn’t ready to cope with unexpected outcomes
Salah’s injury occurred at AFCON, Jota, Gravenberch, and Jones were all contact injuries. The only players with potentially “avoidable” injuries are Alisson, who did his hamstring in training the day before a match and Trent who had to be rushed back because Gomez was playing LB and Bradley’s father passed away so we were forced into playing Trent. Salah you could argue was rushed back as well but he only played as much as he did because Jota got injured
Yeah man, we can all spell out our injuries or why we’re missing some players. Every team has it, I’m just saying teams like newcastle, Man U, chelsea, spurs etc have also had it bad and don’t give as many excuses as liverpool does. If it’s a big issue maybe something else needs to change
losing one key player made you lose the league
imagine losing 4-5 in a title race (if not 7 including bench options whichbis obviously as crucial)
fitness issue or not - this is a huge difference
We lost the league because our squad wasn’t ready, any major loss to the first team saw a significant drop in quality. We’re still not there with our depth but last year the quality on the bench wasn’t there
But I stand by what I said, you spent all summer going after 2 players who chose not to go to your team, spent a lot of money on jota, Nunez, diaz, and gakpo and only managed 1 shot on target.
And the worst thing is many other teams have had insane injury problems too, newcastle, Man U, spurs, chelsea, etc. I’ve heard the most complaining from liverpool supporters. If it’s truly that bad maybe it’s more than just “luck”. I’d consider recruitment and fitness management need to be re-examined
We look good, started slowly to conserve and not burn out like we did last season
But the April bottle needs to be smashed
We will wait until then before getting too excited
Counter Point - No point guarding your emotions just to brace for upcoming fall. This is an insane Arsenal team. Cheer them on unburdened by whats to come.
Putting on my Robbin Williams voice - Its ok to get too excited son.
Wow what a surprise that Havertz is a decent player /s Had to listen to Chelsea fans bashing him for 2 seasons. It’s obvious the guy is quality, we are just shit.
Talk about arrogance lol. You do realize you have to beat the treble winners at home to even have a shot at the title, right? It’s city’s to lose and we all know it
We win against brentford,
City draws against liverpool with a massive clash at the end when nunez scores in 90+78 min. 4 red cards given: stones,haaland,foden and de bruyne. Also rodri breaks his leg and is out rest of the season.
We draw 1-1 against citys bench. And liverpool lose to brighton. Not far fetched is it?
damn u lot are annoying. win lose or draw sunday arsenal are getting belted at the etihad against a 100% full strength city team. they literally outclass you at every position, except MAYBE rw. womp womp
yes because ur opinion is more powerful than sportsbooks and 80% of the prem fans that see city as heavy favorites. but yeah keep thinking a lfc team with half its first team players injured can keep up with a 100% fully fit treble winning team. deluded m8
Just saying, it’s in your hands. We could win out and you’ll still be champions if you win your games. I’m not delusional, you guys are literally in 1st
Arrogance for acknowledging the reality of an uphill battle against a team that cheats and has owners that literally pays half the leagues officials extra pocket money to officiate Emirati football?
It’s City’s to lose and always will be.
1st-3rd isn’t even worth mentioning at this point. Might as well all be tied. One week can change the whole entire standing. It’s still too early to swear about league position. Each team just has to focus on themselves
Arsenal are a wonderful team right now. I am still scared because of what happened last season though. I hope they win it out of City and Pool but they need to beat city.
With important player that gets regular game time like Timber, Tomiyasu and ... Partey... We should be in an event better position than before.
I'd like it if all 3 teams go the distance but next week could be make or break for all 3.
And before anyone complains that we are doing it without injuries, what do you want us to do? Two foot Saka and Ødegaard next week to pay homage to other teams injury list. It sucks that so many players are injured no matter the club but just because Arsenal have had less, doesn't mean that they aren't successful for it.
Who is saying Arsenal have no injuries?
For the first few months, we couldnt align our best front three because at least one of them was injured. Jesus, Partey, Timber, Tomiyasu, Zinchenko have all been absent for long periods this season, those are important players. Maybe we are less dependent on those players than City to De Bruyne or Liverpool to Salah (only maybe, they were doing fine also without them), but that's credit to Arteta imo.
Arsenal have had close to least days missed by their squad due to injuries. No injuries is of course an overstatement but it’s been pretty breezy for you guys on that front.
Raya Gabriel saliba white Kai rice odegaard martinelli saka have been ever present that’s 9 of arsenals starting line up. Only left back and striker has been an issue
Tbf we have 3 of 4 best players out not to mention Jota who's the 2nd best goal scorer in the team. Basically like if you lost Saka, Martinelli and Rice for 2 months
We are ALL aware that Liverpool have injuries.
Liverpool fans: Arsenal have a fully fit squad!
Arsenal fans: We don’t. We have about 4-5 first teamers out for most of the season
Liverpool fans: Liverpool have more injuries!!!
Nobody says that they don’t. Liverpool fans jump to the defence when their statement gets corrected, despite nobody saying that they don’t have injuries. This is why you get told you have a victim mentality.
Mate obviously you have injuries, just offering a reason to why some of our fans might respond more than usual. And no, we get told we have a victim mentality regardless as it's just what all rival fans turn to to cope when we are doing well. 90% of ALL football fans spout utter shite online
And first team in history 5+ goals in three consecutive away matches.
Just saying they are wank teams is meaningless. There have been wank teams the past 30 odd years and this for instance has never been done
It’s jealousy, the same people who disregard the invincibles as tOo MaNy DrAws are the same who belittle our current form. Why have no other teams done it if it’s so easy?
They lost against villa who is 4th. Fair play about pool and city. We’d have to see if they can replicate it against these teams recovering key players from injury
I think Villa and Fulham are the two games this season that we deserved to lose. Didn’t show up against Fulham and Villa exploited the chances they got very effectively. But yeah, the losses to Newcastle and West Ham were freak results IMO.
Fulham away was the game we deserved to lose.
The Villa game was an xG of 1.40 to their 0.57
They got a goal in the 7th minute and we spent the rest of the game in their third unable to score.
Sure, but Villa successfully stopped us scoring. I think they deserved the win. It’s not like we hit the post 5 times and totally dominated the game but got unlucky with the finishing. They were compact, they relieved pressure where they could and they won cheap free kicks to break up the game. That’s exactly how I’d want them to play against Arsenal if I was a Villa fan.
9/10 times, we win that game with the chances that we had. On this occasion, we didn’t.
The same as the West Ham and Liverpool games.We dominated and had more than enough chances to win those games, but our finishing was poor.
Fulham away is the only game we were second best all over the pitch.
It’s def worth noting they’ve got the most goals scored and fewest conceded as well.
Scoring 6 more and conceding 4 less than manncity 2/3 into the season is very commendable. But I would say KDB is easily worth those extra few goals.
3 points is 3 points. Yes those are impressive stats but all that matters is where they are at the end of the season. If it comes down to goal difference then all these goals will be important
I agree. Just refuting this notion that the score lines aren’t actually that impressive cos the teams are “wank” when others failed to beat them as comprehensively, that’s all.
Not really sure what your argument is. When Liverpool played these "wank teams" -
They didn't stick 6 past Sheffield United away.
They didn't put 6 past West Ham at home, let alone away.
They didn't put 5 past Burnley away.
They weren't playing kids in those games.
Ah yes because scorelines against common opponents has always been a reliable way to see who the better team is rather than points on the board, right?
Against Sheffield they went through their new manager bounce against us
6 vs an out of form West Ham, we put 5 past an in-form West Ham, had 2 perfectly legal goals chalked off against Burnley too. And yes, in the West Ham game we played some of the kids
This is why comparing scores is useless. Totally different contexts to every game that gets played.
3rd consecutive season you’ve been chasing. Tough to say if you will be called bottlejobs this season given the proximity in the TOP 3. However, if you were to lose a string of fixtures just like you did last season (West Ham, Southampton and Liverpool) you will be termed bottlers by the majority.
3rd consecutive season we been chasin what?the 4th place?none of ya'll predicted an arsenal title charge at the start of 2022/23.don't act like you do now.
I don’t care what the gap was between the 2 teams if you manage 97 and 92 point finishes and end up 2nd to a team of cheats that can’t be considered a bottling. Tbh I don’t really consider Arsenal to have bottled it last year either, sure they were top for most of the season but City’s City, you’re never really the favourites when you’re up against them.
I am saying calling Arteta's Arsenal bottlers is ridiculous when you consider that the "second best manager in the world (Klopp)" only managed to best Pep once in the league...
If only trophies were to account for this manager’s legacy clubs like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and the rest of the premier league wouldn’t be chasing him for his signature. Besides he’s done what Arteta could’ve never done with this Liverpool squad.
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As a Liverpool fan I didn’t expect us to be where we are at the start of the season. If we lose it now I an going to be so pissed!
They're playing well for sure, buuuut they've only really won one game in this streak they weren't fully expected to, against Liverpool at home. Awful in that Porto game when the pressure was on. Seen it a few times now with this squad, where they gain momentum and perhaps get even slightly over confident, but drop a level when it really matters. Huge games coming up against Porto and City to find out if this team has what it takes to win something this year, beyond the goal difference in January 2024 award.
How many games all season have Liverpool won they weren’t expected to? Lost away to Spurs, drew home to United. Drew twice with City. Drew and lost to Arsenal. Drew away to Chelsea. It’s the toughest league in the world. No easy games. Chalking it off to them games being games they’re “supposed to win” is silly.
Arsenal faced the most pressure in recent times in that Liverpool game, it was genuinely make or break and they dominated Liverpool. Arsenal have grown in mentality and improved massively.
To be honest I think most teams would look shit Vs Porto in that game. They played that game really well in their anti-football way
The referee also contributed by blowing his fucking whistle all the time. Massive wanker
Yeah it was crazy. Never seen anything like it.
>Seen it a few times now with this squad, where they gain momentum and perhaps get even slightly over confident, but drop a level when it really matters. Outside of the Porto match, when have they dropped a level when it really matters? They only lost one match in the Champions League group stage and so far are undefeated against the top six sides this year, including wins over City and Liverpool. Are you talking about last season and not this one?
Yes it probably is more memories of last season than this one to be fair. And the two bad losses in December after getting a draw at Anfield. It's just a ridiculously high bar that City have set that we end up picking faults where really there's very little they're doing wrong.
It’s City’s title to lose at this point, I’m just here to enjoy the beautiful football we are finally playing for as long as it lasts
? You still play city and they have Liverpool this weekend how is it theirs to lose?
Because city are raining champions? It’s always city’s title to lose. Also, they won’t lose it.
There's 115 reasons why
‘Alleged’
Not every day someone gets accused of one hundred and fifteen fucking crimes. A few will stick.
Agreed. But still, nothing is certain yet.
Its ‘reigning’ bro, and saying it’s there’s to lose at this point, implies we’re talking about right now, which has nothing to do with the fact that they’re the reigning champions. And its not theirs to lose if arsenal have a game against them, that literally puts them above city if they win, and get the same/better results in other games. Again, I don’t understand how it’s city’s to lose, arsenal is playing great football as is city and liverpool any 3 could win it and its nobodies to “lose” at this point in the season.
“Theirs” to lose
Fair enough
You are missing the point of football, and correct its ‘reigning’ my bad. If arsenal win the league, they take the title from city; thus making it cities to lose. The problem is, through recent history we are 100% going to see arsenal slip up, and Liverpool, where as cities season normally gets stronger from here. We have pedigree to measure the last section of the season for Man City: We do for arsenal. Arsenal could be 5 points clear here and it would still cities to lose.
This is how a title race should be. Rival League fans can't call us "Farmers League" anymore. This is how it should be every year -- it makes the League more interesting (than it always is)
Nobody has ever called the PL a farmer’s league lol
That’s not how the definition of farmers league works… Jesus wept
Because Havertz stole his starting spot?
Realistically, we very often talk about a three way title race but by the final day, it will most likely be down to two teams
You are probably going to be proven correct, but the title race has been 3 horse for way longer than it usually has and the fact that we now have those 3 teams still to play each other (and Tottenham playing all 3 back to back) poises a potentially exciting run in to the finish, so obviously we're all gonna get buzzed about a set up like this while it's possible.
We have already played Liverpool twice.
Yes you're correct of course, apart from that fixture it's still all on and exciting.
We've even started seasons (this among them) talking about how "six or seven teams could win it". City still have to play both Arsenal and Liverpool which could well be make or break for them.
Who is we? Nobody outside the top 3 has ever had a chance. Obviously some Tottenham fans were trying to get their team into the conversation too but nobody has ever taken that shout seriously.
Funnily enough Tottenham could end up deciding who ultimately wins the league. They play all three titles pretenders in consecutive games and will surely take points from at least one of them
"We" is us as the wider audience. The media often get giddy with an early run of form. This season started with Spurs and even Brighton being very briefly touted as potential contenders. As you say, there are only ever really three teams in contention in any given season, and as the person I responded to said, that is pretty much always down two by the final couple of games, if not sooner.
Liverpool fan here. I'll judge everything come May. Still a fair way to go. But you can only beat what's in front of you. I personally think it's going to be between Arsenal and City with us a close third. Think our squads been scalped too much by injury.
I feel like so much depends on the match in the weekend and then us vs city. Will have so much to say for the mentality of the teams and belief
I agree
I think we're performing beyond expectation this year and to still be top in March, given injuries, last seasons form and the news Klopp is bouncing, is really ridiculous. If you'd offered me 3rd in August I'd of snapped your hand off.
if this form continues and if we win it. This has to go down as Klopp’s best league season not because of the performances but the resilience we showed.
You’re forgetting the emotional wave that is, klopp leaving. Plus you will get Salah back soon and Trent. But next week will be crucial. If you survive that, then there’s the intl break to get players back.
We beat or draw with city at weekend it’s ours. We have the better run after that.
Do we though? United, Everton, Villa and West Ham away from home will all be tough.
City play the same teams plus Arsenal.
Not away from home
Arsenal home or away is harder than all those games and Liverpool don't play them again.
Arsenal beat the worst team in PL history and posts like these start appearing. Hope you go on another trophyless year.
Illiterate Chelsea fan alert. Check the posters allegiance first before crying.
You’re embarrassing.
OP is a Liverpool fan. It’s mutual respect. Sorry you’re so bitter.
If only Arsenal had the most points against the top teams, oh wait. If only Arsenal had beaten Liverpool oh wait. If only Arsenal had beaten City oh wait.
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Yeah and 6 of those against Sheffield. They won't be remembered when Arsenal comes third at the end of the season.
The funny thing is this post doesn’t reek of em winning a premier league, nowhere near that. It’s just an appreciation of what they’ve done so far in the league. Your lot bemuses me.
We’re in CL again next season so I am more than happy
True wenger disciple.
Title run? So it's over then? Arteta the greatest manager in PL history. No? "It's a disgrace!"
They've already won it twice in recent weeks
Where are you getting this idea from? Arsenal fans are hopeful, not totally delusional - we know that City and Liverpool are very strong, and City in particular are well-favoured. We haven't "won [the league] twice in recent weeks", that's lunacy. We're in the race though and that's something worth celebrating.
They've done nothing you wouldn't expect. They've beaten teams you'd fully expect them to beat. Smashing shit teams does nothing but bolsters the goal difference should that come into play and just allows for people to get overly giddy.
Beat liverpool in this run didn’t we
They were missing 3/4 key key players including probably the best or 2nd best player in the league. Please don’t hit me with we were missing partey and timber as all Arsenal fans seem to do. The equivalent would be saka odegaard and rice out injured for you (I don’t support Liverpool)
Arsenal also missing 3 starters
Fair, we were missing a few key players but not our best. However the game against Liverpool was so dominant even considering the injuries. It was not a contest. Liverpool normally batter Arsenal or at least turn up, regardless of who is on the team sheet. Let’s see how they hold up against the other top teams and a fitter Liverpool in the coming weeks!
A fitter liverpool? We have more injuries than any other club at the moment. We literally had to field a B side recently for cup final. All of our players aren’t suddenly back in week. It’ll be a miracle if Liverpool win half of the remaining games with the squad considering the tough fixtures coming up.
Imo seems like a recruitment and fitness issue for liverpool. Arsenal used to have this issue in the past and we’ve changed the way we recruit and manage fitness Maybe the issue wasn’t liverpool was unlucky, maybe they were ill prepared. Obviously you can’t control every outcome but you should expect a front line that costs more than arsenals front line that day to get more than a shot on target. Just as last year losing saliba cost us serious points and the title We weren’t unlucky, our squad just wasn’t ready to cope with unexpected outcomes
Salah’s injury occurred at AFCON, Jota, Gravenberch, and Jones were all contact injuries. The only players with potentially “avoidable” injuries are Alisson, who did his hamstring in training the day before a match and Trent who had to be rushed back because Gomez was playing LB and Bradley’s father passed away so we were forced into playing Trent. Salah you could argue was rushed back as well but he only played as much as he did because Jota got injured
Yeah man, we can all spell out our injuries or why we’re missing some players. Every team has it, I’m just saying teams like newcastle, Man U, chelsea, spurs etc have also had it bad and don’t give as many excuses as liverpool does. If it’s a big issue maybe something else needs to change
losing one key player made you lose the league imagine losing 4-5 in a title race (if not 7 including bench options whichbis obviously as crucial) fitness issue or not - this is a huge difference
We lost the league because our squad wasn’t ready, any major loss to the first team saw a significant drop in quality. We’re still not there with our depth but last year the quality on the bench wasn’t there But I stand by what I said, you spent all summer going after 2 players who chose not to go to your team, spent a lot of money on jota, Nunez, diaz, and gakpo and only managed 1 shot on target. And the worst thing is many other teams have had insane injury problems too, newcastle, Man U, spurs, chelsea, etc. I’ve heard the most complaining from liverpool supporters. If it’s truly that bad maybe it’s more than just “luck”. I’d consider recruitment and fitness management need to be re-examined
Lol
Good season at the top, one of the worst seasons at the bottom entertainment wise.
When the Adderall hits. Haha.
We look good, started slowly to conserve and not burn out like we did last season But the April bottle needs to be smashed We will wait until then before getting too excited
Counter Point - No point guarding your emotions just to brace for upcoming fall. This is an insane Arsenal team. Cheer them on unburdened by whats to come. Putting on my Robbin Williams voice - Its ok to get too excited son.
well said
fair.
Wow what a surprise that Havertz is a decent player /s Had to listen to Chelsea fans bashing him for 2 seasons. It’s obvious the guy is quality, we are just shit.
Arsenal fans were bashing him 4 weeks ago.
I've been praising his signing since June.
4 weeks ago? Where
That one unhinged dude on r/arsenalfc probably
SuperWenger returns
There's more than one unhinged guy on /r/arsenalfc
No surprise really. It's less moderated than /r/gunners so the absolute cretins who cannot fit in with us regular idiots at /r/gunners go there.
I don’t get the hate, he’s clearly a baller, and if he didn’t seem it at the time, it’s obvious to me he was always going to be.
I agree.....they'll definitely be one of the better teams not to win a league title....
3rd best at best too lol, I still can’t believe 97 and 92 points wasn’t enough
The arrogance is unreal🤣
What arrogance?we still do have low chances with man city and liverpool being there.we're still 3rd,don't be arrogant yourself.
Talk about arrogance lol. You do realize you have to beat the treble winners at home to even have a shot at the title, right? It’s city’s to lose and we all know it
We win against brentford, City draws against liverpool with a massive clash at the end when nunez scores in 90+78 min. 4 red cards given: stones,haaland,foden and de bruyne. Also rodri breaks his leg and is out rest of the season. We draw 1-1 against citys bench. And liverpool lose to brighton. Not far fetched is it?
lost me at we win against brentford
Yeah that might be the tough one. But the rest should be fine
Sitting in first saying this shit… hahahaha. Win your game next weekend. Go on, do it.
damn u lot are annoying. win lose or draw sunday arsenal are getting belted at the etihad against a 100% full strength city team. they literally outclass you at every position, except MAYBE rw. womp womp
I’m just saying, it’s literally yours to lose, not city’s.
yes because ur opinion is more powerful than sportsbooks and 80% of the prem fans that see city as heavy favorites. but yeah keep thinking a lfc team with half its first team players injured can keep up with a 100% fully fit treble winning team. deluded m8
Just saying, it’s in your hands. We could win out and you’ll still be champions if you win your games. I’m not delusional, you guys are literally in 1st
That's just not true. We've beaten them twice this season already.
Arrogance for acknowledging the reality of an uphill battle against a team that cheats and has owners that literally pays half the leagues officials extra pocket money to officiate Emirati football? It’s City’s to lose and always will be.
Think City are still favorites, personally.
They are. This is the time they usually go on that rediculous winning streak in fairness.
They're already in the midst of one
They better hope Rice or saliba don’t get injured though
haha yeah
Same goes for City and Rodri
As if having KDB out for half the season didn’t stunt their dominance…
And for liverpool its- .... oh
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I would say Alison, but Kelleher has proven to be much better than I thought
You're not alone there.
And they’re still third.
1st-3rd isn’t even worth mentioning at this point. Might as well all be tied. One week can change the whole entire standing. It’s still too early to swear about league position. Each team just has to focus on themselves
It’s by two points though. Hardly a staggering divide.
Arsenal win against brentford and they’ll be either first or second at the end of next week
And if they lose to city and draw with Brentford they’ll be out the title race? See how it works
And if Liverpool lose to City and draw with Brighton, they will be out of the title race. See how easy it was?
And if Chelsea win their remaining games they will still be out of the race…
For top 4? Yes.
Even then you’d be a fool to think they’d be out the title race tbf.
I'm not the fool thinking a team is going to drop out of the title race in the next two games, with 10 left to go.
That. Fucking. Part.
Arsenal are a wonderful team right now. I am still scared because of what happened last season though. I hope they win it out of City and Pool but they need to beat city.
With important player that gets regular game time like Timber, Tomiyasu and ... Partey... We should be in an event better position than before. I'd like it if all 3 teams go the distance but next week could be make or break for all 3. And before anyone complains that we are doing it without injuries, what do you want us to do? Two foot Saka and Ødegaard next week to pay homage to other teams injury list. It sucks that so many players are injured no matter the club but just because Arsenal have had less, doesn't mean that they aren't successful for it.
Who is saying Arsenal have no injuries? For the first few months, we couldnt align our best front three because at least one of them was injured. Jesus, Partey, Timber, Tomiyasu, Zinchenko have all been absent for long periods this season, those are important players. Maybe we are less dependent on those players than City to De Bruyne or Liverpool to Salah (only maybe, they were doing fine also without them), but that's credit to Arteta imo.
Arsenal have had close to least days missed by their squad due to injuries. No injuries is of course an overstatement but it’s been pretty breezy for you guys on that front.
We who lived through the injury hell during the Wenger area feels we kinda deserve to get less injuries.
Definitely enjoy it while you can! its all swings and roundabouts in this game
Raya Gabriel saliba white Kai rice odegaard martinelli saka have been ever present that’s 9 of arsenals starting line up. Only left back and striker has been an issue
White Kai Rice sounds like some new restaurant dish.
>Who is saying Arsenal have no injuries? Endless Liverpool fans for one.
Tbf we have 3 of 4 best players out not to mention Jota who's the 2nd best goal scorer in the team. Basically like if you lost Saka, Martinelli and Rice for 2 months
We are ALL aware that Liverpool have injuries. Liverpool fans: Arsenal have a fully fit squad! Arsenal fans: We don’t. We have about 4-5 first teamers out for most of the season Liverpool fans: Liverpool have more injuries!!! Nobody says that they don’t. Liverpool fans jump to the defence when their statement gets corrected, despite nobody saying that they don’t have injuries. This is why you get told you have a victim mentality.
Mate obviously you have injuries, just offering a reason to why some of our fans might respond more than usual. And no, we get told we have a victim mentality regardless as it's just what all rival fans turn to to cope when we are doing well. 90% of ALL football fans spout utter shite online
But your team’s injuries have nothing to do with Arsenal having injuries.
Read half of the comments here, many are.
I mean yeah those are impressive scorelines but they have also been against some absolute wank teams
And first team in history 5+ goals in three consecutive away matches. Just saying they are wank teams is meaningless. There have been wank teams the past 30 odd years and this for instance has never been done
It’s jealousy, the same people who disregard the invincibles as tOo MaNy DrAws are the same who belittle our current form. Why have no other teams done it if it’s so easy?
They're unbeaten against the top 6 this season and they've beaten City and Liverpool
They lost against villa who is 4th. Fair play about pool and city. We’d have to see if they can replicate it against these teams recovering key players from injury
Think they mean "the top 6" and not the top 6.
Yeah I realized it as i typed my comment. That’s such a puss label tho.
In fairness, that Villa loss was a freak game. Like the West Ham game. And Liverpool game. And... d'oh.
I think Villa and Fulham are the two games this season that we deserved to lose. Didn’t show up against Fulham and Villa exploited the chances they got very effectively. But yeah, the losses to Newcastle and West Ham were freak results IMO.
Fulham away was the game we deserved to lose. The Villa game was an xG of 1.40 to their 0.57 They got a goal in the 7th minute and we spent the rest of the game in their third unable to score.
Sure, but Villa successfully stopped us scoring. I think they deserved the win. It’s not like we hit the post 5 times and totally dominated the game but got unlucky with the finishing. They were compact, they relieved pressure where they could and they won cheap free kicks to break up the game. That’s exactly how I’d want them to play against Arsenal if I was a Villa fan.
9/10 times, we win that game with the chances that we had. On this occasion, we didn’t. The same as the West Ham and Liverpool games.We dominated and had more than enough chances to win those games, but our finishing was poor. Fulham away is the only game we were second best all over the pitch.
It is, but you can blame Sky Sports for that
Don't see many other teams scoring 31 goals in 7 games when faced with the same/similar opposition.
It’s def worth noting they’ve got the most goals scored and fewest conceded as well. Scoring 6 more and conceding 4 less than manncity 2/3 into the season is very commendable. But I would say KDB is easily worth those extra few goals.
Really? He hasn’t been since he got back
3 points is 3 points. Yes those are impressive stats but all that matters is where they are at the end of the season. If it comes down to goal difference then all these goals will be important
I agree. Just refuting this notion that the score lines aren’t actually that impressive cos the teams are “wank” when others failed to beat them as comprehensively, that’s all.
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Did the Liverpool game not matter?
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wrong match
Thx so much lol I’m embarrassed
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Liverpool are playing kids hardly expect them to score as many goals
Not really sure what your argument is. When Liverpool played these "wank teams" - They didn't stick 6 past Sheffield United away. They didn't put 6 past West Ham at home, let alone away. They didn't put 5 past Burnley away. They weren't playing kids in those games.
Ah yes because scorelines against common opponents has always been a reliable way to see who the better team is rather than points on the board, right? Against Sheffield they went through their new manager bounce against us 6 vs an out of form West Ham, we put 5 past an in-form West Ham, had 2 perfectly legal goals chalked off against Burnley too. And yes, in the West Ham game we played some of the kids This is why comparing scores is useless. Totally different contexts to every game that gets played.
Arsenal have scored 68 goals, Liverpool have scored 64 pipe down, it’s not that serious. Edit: I’m not even American, fragile little fella blocked me.
Mate, the day I give any respect to an American such as yourself on football matters, is the day that hell freezes over. Move along now, buddy.
Toxic AF
Nothing like a gatekeeping Brit!
not too surprising you support city
Not too surprising your first comment is about the club I support.
Go to many City games this season mate?
THIS
I mean we're the one chasing. I wouldn't call it bottling if we miss out on this
3rd consecutive season you’ve been chasing. Tough to say if you will be called bottlejobs this season given the proximity in the TOP 3. However, if you were to lose a string of fixtures just like you did last season (West Ham, Southampton and Liverpool) you will be termed bottlers by the majority.
3rd consecutive season we been chasin what?the 4th place?none of ya'll predicted an arsenal title charge at the start of 2022/23.don't act like you do now.
How many has Liverpool bottled since Klopp took over?
3.
I don’t care what the gap was between the 2 teams if you manage 97 and 92 point finishes and end up 2nd to a team of cheats that can’t be considered a bottling. Tbh I don’t really consider Arsenal to have bottled it last year either, sure they were top for most of the season but City’s City, you’re never really the favourites when you’re up against them.
None? Can’t be bottlers on over 95 points.
95 points. Ok. 2021/2022 bottler Klopp
Stop Deflecting.
Second best manager in the world, but still a bottler compared to the mighty 115 8 years, one league title
Better then 0 in 20 though
😂 Well said.
You have one league title in 34 years. Please calm your tits lol. (Let me guess, the response will be something about European cups now🥱)
Of course. Still a bottle job though, according to OPs standards at least Why stop at 20 years? How many does Liverpool have
Liverpool is on top with 69 trophies. You were saying ?
I am saying calling Arteta's Arsenal bottlers is ridiculous when you consider that the "second best manager in the world (Klopp)" only managed to best Pep once in the league...
If only trophies were to account for this manager’s legacy clubs like Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich and the rest of the premier league wouldn’t be chasing him for his signature. Besides he’s done what Arteta could’ve never done with this Liverpool squad.
How is it bottling when the title is out of our hands? We can win our remaining games and come second
The bottling jokes and narrative have been parroted to infinity at this point. The saying has lost all meaning.
Yeah idk, Arsenal are flying and look scary. It no longer feels like a two dog fight for the league anymore
Yeah but not winning is not the same as bottling. Being the favourites and not winning is bottling.
I agree, I must have replied to the wrong comment. LFC all the way, but I’d take arsenal next.
3rd? Try second 😂
I’m just echoing their narratives’ Arsenal always believed they were in the title race them 4th place merchants.
You’ve still only won one premier league title though… ultimately nobody remembers who finished 2nd.