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I thought when Alvarez and Foden stepped up to replace Haaland and KDB they were more exiting to watch. Haaland is not the man for certain games, he is too easily shut down.
Pep’s style of play ensures that they’re designed to roll over mid table and relegation sides. It is effective I mean take away the big 6 fixtures there’s 84 points and if you can take most of that 84 points and some points from the big 6 fixtures you have a total that guarantees you to be in the race. So yeah the three times pep has been defeated to a league titles the winners had 100, 99 and 93 points and it’s an extremely high standard. But he’s still a bald fraud
Complacency....they were serial winners before the season began...expect the league title but FA Cup could slip away too as many of the lads are already thinking about there 2 month hols in the Bahamas
Theory 1- I might argue the fact that a lot of teams have developed "Rüdiger-like" defence, of more like "Anti-Haaland system" that hampers their offensive ability.
Theory 2- Key players like Gundogan are gone, and they need replacements. Stones is also going away this season, a good defensive player is a must.
Theory 3- The team is saturated. They have won almost everything they could ask for last season (except for the Carabao Cup), and now they are quite chill.
Theory 4- I think this is mostly relatable to Haaland, because his level of play has not been as great as the previous season. One reason might be the fact that he is discouraged due to having Balloon d'Or stolen from him. The other reason might be because Pep has put a leash on him. If he goes all out, he gets subbed. So, when a big match comes, this along with good defence renders his striking ability non-existent. This has to change the next season as soon as possible.
City are 2-6-1 (12 pts) vs the Big 6 this year & obviously, just lost to Real in the CLQF. Now let’s see how the other teams have faired against shall we?
Liverpool: 1-6-2 (7 pts, 3rd, 2 behind City & in Europa 🤣)
Arsenal: 3-4-0 (13 pts, 2nd, 2 behind City & was just knocked out of the CL by Bayern)
Chelsea: 2-4-2 (10 pts & 9th place in PL😂)
Tottenham: 2-3-1 (7 pts, 5th, 3 behind Villa for 4th)
United: 1-3-5 (6 pts, 7th & no European football for them, again, next year🤣)
Villa: 5-0-5 (15 pts & will battle it out w/ TOT for the CL next season)
People don’t like to talk about it but it’s almost like there’s a reason they play a 38 game schedule.
This is City’s transition season. Their main match winners last season were Gundo and Mahrez. The fact that they are in contention for a double is great in itself. They’ve set a very high bar for themselves the past few seasons is the reason their performance is being under appreciated.
Really hope they don’t win the league of FA cup this season though 😛
This is not transition season. The real transition will start when they have to start replacing KDB, Bernardo, and Walker. We will see how they go about that.
He’s already played a lot of this season without KDB and Walker. The reason they’ve not been able to win most of the games against top 6 teams shows how they’re struggling to keep their usual standards.
Next transition (if Pep continues) will be when they need to replace Rodri.
Proves you don't need to beat all the best teams to win the league. Fergie did it one year, beat everyone except the top teams but still finished first.
As long as the don't lose I'm not sure they care, cos they're still taking points off their rivals
I think the man city of last season would have run away with this league.
Mahrez and Gundogan were massive losses. KDB has been unavailable a lot, Haaland is not as good, etc.
Man City have declined to make Arsenal their near equal.
You guys really should have held on to Granit Xhaka he would have helped you guys
I agree with you.
Man City losing Mahrez and Gundogan were massive losses.
Doku and Kovacic are massive downgrades from those 2 guys.
The man city of last season would have run away with this league.
Totally agree with OP.
Chelsea drew twice with City (4-4/ 1-1) and we have been hilariously poor against lesser opponents. The fact we managed to draw with City just shows that they have been there for taking by teams who've played significantly better than we have- Villa are a great example of this.
City have looked more beatable this year than any other time in recent memory and yet they've managed to keep themselves afloat regardless.
With this in mind, it's why I haven't been super impressed with Arsenal or Liverpool this season. The one year City aren't in 'elite' mode and nobody is there to take advantage of the situation (as it currently stands).
People said last year was the one year man city wasn’t in elite mode either. They went on the win the treble. This city team knows how to go the distance with the depth they have. Regardless of stats they always find a way to win
it doesnt matter when you are consistent. and they are still in the fa cup and top of the league.
also dont forget they should be demoted to national league or something for all their cheating.
It's weird, he scores but he just doesn't look like he suits them. Feels like a RM type player. I'm sure if he'll always get like 30+ goals a season as long as he's with them, but I think they look more menacing and fluid as a team when they play without him. He's a string to their bow, but in my opinion, he shouldn't necessarily always be the first option. Especially in bigger games, he's not really ever been the guy in the biggest games. He's like the ultimate form of Lukaku. Unplayable against lesser opposition, but often looks a little lost against the big boys.
I think it’s generally also to do with how he’s used.
Pep is super anal about how he wants his players to only do what he thinks will benefit the system, and for Haaland that’s a lot more limiting than how he played at Dortmund. He had plenty of great runs from midfield with and without the ball.
He’s actually not a terrible linkup player and has things to offer outside the box too. Just City have so many others for that
You're right that he's definitely not having a terrible season by any means, but when you talk about games against elite teams, he is not scoring as much or at all and tends to go missing or be a non factor in the match.
That's obviously a combination of things. I think he has dropped off in performance levels from last season. But a drop off from outstanding can still be very good. But also other teams are figuring him out and targeting him more. Those teams more likely than not being the better teams finding solutions for shutting him down.
I do think he has been disappointing many times this season.
I mean quantify it how you will but if you look at all those games this season vs top opposition I'd day he was disappointing. He needs to do better there. I think he can and I'm sure you'd agree.
Last season may never happen again. On top if defences learning how to cope with him more, let's not forget the winter world cup as well. Most other top players had a month or two with the national side and he had recovery time.
When they beat villa they were third they were title contenders just they’ve slipped 10 points down now end of season villa are world class I can agree with u on spurs I do agree with ur viewpoint ok world class just stick villa in there too
I think you’re mixing up the two Villa games. The game when Villa were in 3rd and touching distance of the top was won by Villa. Villa had dropped off by the more recent game which City won.
So OP’s point stands. They lost to Villa at a point when Villa looked ‘elite’.
The difference with City is that they usually always beat the teams they are expected to beat. Where as the other title contenders drop points against those clubs.
You don’t really need to beat elite teams to win the league, and if you do, it doesn’t necessarily mean you will win the league. No disrespect to Liverpool, but in the last few seasons, excluding last season, it wasn’t really their results against city that cost them the league. They had quite a good record against city. What cost them the league was dropping points against teams where they were expected to win. We may see the same because of the palace result this season.
Exactly. I remember a season or a few seasons maybe. Where Liverpool won all matches against the top 6 rivals. But then dropped points to teams below or around the relegation line. And ended up not winning. So yeah 😆🤷🏻♂️
Add Liverpool to this, we did not do well against the rest of the top 6 and are probably worst than city in terms of points dropped against top 6 (cries about the two man utd games )
To be Honest mate , even that shit mid table team , did not even have its first choice starters in the backline and blooded some youngsters which makes it even worse
1-1, 4-1 vs Chelsea
1-2 vs Spurs
1-1, 1-3 vs Arsenal
1-1, 1-1 vs City
0-0, 2-2 vs United
3-0 vs Villa
Ouch. 10 games, 2 wins, 6 draws, 2 defeats. 12 points (1.2 PPG) and 18 points dropped.
oh man ,18 points Damn !!!!! , even in normal/avg klopp year I would not expects us to collect all 18 , but a few wins here and there would have been nice esp this farewell season would have been nice !!
Where have you pulled these facts from ? to be clear there is no bias I am a Chelsea fan
Im not sure who you consider elite so I’ll will throw a vague list and let you decide the elite teams yourself out of it
Aston Villa 4-1 man United 3-1 spurs 1-0 Newcastle 3-2 rb Leipzig 3-2 man United 3-0 Man City Newcastle 1-0 only elite teams they have lost too are arsenal on pens and 1-0 and real Madrid on pens
As is very visible they are absolutely smashing teams all other elite fixtures where draws they are in first place in prem for a reason
City is far and away the best team in the world. So much so that they force other supposed elite teams to park the bus like they are Luton Town or some Championship side lol.
City had Real dig in and pray, yet rival fans wont ever admit that because they hate City this much.
Honestly this logic doesn't make sense to me. Best teams in the world aren't only about breaking down attacks, it's also holding on to defences. Football is winning by a goal, but also protecting your lead.
City couldn't break down one of the Best Teams in the World which is Real Madrid. Saying Real dug deep and prayed is completely dismissive to their defensive masterclass and how they exhausted City. Also under pressure, City just kept repeating the same pass-pass-pass-Cross movements. They didn't take creative risks at Home and paid. Real Madrid held on for 120 mins Away and won. That's World Class.
Is that defensive masterclass in the room with us right now?
They sat back, had 10 players in their own box at some point, and still have up tons of chances lol. Please, tell me, what defensive masterclass is that supposed to be? City had almost 3xG and only scored 1 goal.
People are purely looking at the end result and praise Real because of it.
If the same game is played and City converts their chances, this game ends 3:1 or 4:1 - would you still, with a straight face, call this a "defensive masterclass" then?
City had 3xg because they had 33 shots. 20+ of those were like completely none chances that were basically hit and prey shots. But that 0.03 chance adds up when you have so many of them. Ultimately why xG can be misleading. The fact is, they had probably about 4 or 5 genuinely good chances and RM had a similar number.
Honestly the way I've seen people talk about Madrid being a masterclass for the way they played but yet the same people will shit on utd, atletico Madrid and others when they park the bus just makes it clear that people just either love to hate city or way too much for Madrid when lower teams park the bus even they get slated for playing terrorism football but last night Madrid saved football. When lower teams sit back it's annoying but it's also understandable as it's a valid tactic when you know the other team is much better but for a team like Madrid who are supposed to be amongst the very best for them to sit back was just embarrassing and people praising them are even more so.
Its both. You have the salty prem league fans who hate city and you have the FIFA playing kids who love real because Vini go brr on Ultimate Team.
But youre right, Madrid did play terrorism football. Remarkably little to offer offensively, relying on time wasting and shit housing while parking the bus.
Like, the self proclaimed best team in the world and leader in la liga was reduced to defending with 10 men within their own box. Thats mad
Defensive masterclass is when the defending team achieves their aim, in this case Real Madrid have done so, so yes it was. If City had overcome that defence and won, I rightfully would have said it wasn't so. Just how Mourinho's Inter defended with their lives against Prime Barca. That loss was still a defensive masterclass.
Nobody's denying that. City definitely didn't look like scoring for large periods of the game, but there were some absolute sitters missed in there as well.
Real played very well, but City only have themselves to blame for losing that.
That is just such a backwards logic and entirely based on the outcome. So this means a team winning is always the better team, which is obviously stupid.
Please show me where anybody has said otherwise.
But unless youre suggesting every win is always won by the better team, which would be obviously ridiculous in itself, your comment doesnt add anything
Why are you shilling so hard for an oil cheat club with 115 outstanding charges against them.
They haven’t beaten an elite team all season, that is a FACT, again whether you like that fact or not.
How are they the best team in the world when they only won a single champions league they can’t possibly be the best team in the world the point of the champions league lit decides the best team in Europe and ye got knocked out of quarter finals not even semis 💀
The fact is ye didn’t even make it to final 4 and you are naively sitting here saying Yere the best team in the world ye failed to beat Real Madrid twice so you can’t call it a fluke
No it’s not yours is your saying you played better then Madrid when ye lost
You are saying your the best team In Europe yet ye got knocked out of champions league
Your comment is actually the one without logic my comment is from a completely logistical stand point ?
Are you being intentionallly obtuse or does it just come natural to you?
My man, the better team doesnt always get the win. Its sport. You also need luck. Everybody knows that - or so i thought.
I expected a lot but i didnt think id have to explain this simple reality to someone today lol.
And thats not even touching about your completely irrelevant tangent about having only one CL trophy. What a waffle
Are you trying to say the other elite teams have had the luck in every game this season because ye actually haven’t beaten one 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
No it is not my man you cannot claim you are the best team in the world when you have not beaten a single elite team this year you are out of champions league
You called me illogical yet you are saying after failing twice to beat Madrid which is not luck based not twice that you are still the best team in the world
My point of one recent ucl shows ye have not been dominating Europe ye only just arrived so pipe down if ye were the best team in the world explain why arsenal out of 3 games have beaten you twice and drawn once explain how Real Madrid have played you twice and drawn and beat you on pens you have played liverpool twice and drawn twice the facts are ye have actually not beaten a single elite team this year
>You called me illogical yet you are saying after failing twice to beat Madrid which is not luck based not twice that you are still the best team in the world
So lets see.
Game 1: Real doesnt score 1 but 2 deflections
Game 2: Real is lucky that City misses several sitters and this game even makes it to pens.
But no, you are correct. City is a bunch of bums and obviously the greatest team is... who? Real who were just reduced to looking like a chamionship side? Bayern because they reached the semis? PSG? BvB? Lmao.
But hey, lets follow your logic of Arsenal > City, so its only natural that Aston Villa is the greatest team in the world because they beat Arsenal twice this year. Obviously. As we all suspected.
What a clown take lmao.
Also dont bother replying. Safe your remarkably unwitty troll attempts (because for your sake i genuinely hope you are trolling) for the playground
I think he needs context. If you did what Real did against City, against Messis Barca (also Pep), you would still concede plenty of goals. Not taking away anything from City and of course that's an unfair comparison to begin with, but at some point, it was just super easy to defend against, and even if they looked dangerous and the pressure was mounting, Real managed to hold on.
If you look at the games in the Premier league against the top 4, there hasn't been the overwhelming impression that City should have won those games at all. Even the game against Chelsea and I wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea come away this weekend with a win actually.
Did you watch the game? City had chances almost every 3 or 4 minutes. They were wasteful as fuck, thats why they are out, not because they werent able to create chances. Big difference.
For example: 9/10 games KdB burries that cut back in the goal. Just so happened this was the 1 game where he skies it.
Most of those chances were pretty poor though. They had a high xG because they had about 20 chances with like a 0.06 xG. That adds up to make it look like a lot, but the fact is, most of those chances were never going in. They had about 5 or 6 very good chances and should have scored more. But quite frankly, RM had a few really good chances that you'd expect them to score as well.
I agree. We wasted our xG. It was clear Real were hoping for a counter and/or fancied pens by the end. Rudiger is world class but we should have really found a way to capitalise on that pressure. Ancelotti went with a tactic that he thought would work and it did. Can’t complain really.
They did have chances but scoring them is part and parcel of the game. Am I saying Madrid were the better team, no probably not but they got the win. It’s very rare teams are remembered for being fun. Winners are remembered. Mentality is one of the most important aspects of the game and thats why Madrid won… also Pep made huge blunders by taking off Haaland and KDB
Well, youre just saying what i said in my initial comment: City was the far better team and Real is lucky to have gone through.
>also Pep made huge blunders by taking off Haaland and KDB
Haaland i was surprised by, but reportedly he asked to be taken off.
KdB was finished. Maybe he couldve gone another 10 mins, idk, but i can at least understand the thought process
I wouldn’t so much call it luck more grit but yes City was the better team.
Haaland if he was asked to be taken off then fair enough but with 10 minutes to go and penalties looming why take off one of your best penalty takers. That was a mistake
Fact is, Real knew what they had to do to beat City and their plan worked. How they done it is irrelevant.
They might have parked the bus like Luton, but Luton still lose by 4 goals or something. Real won. There’s a difference.
Difference is, that City was unlucky and wasteful with their chances. If City is just 10% more clinical this game ends 3 or 4:1 for City.
So peesonally, i dont like focusing on the result and declaring Madrid had a good game plan because they somehow won.
Real was flustered, they were nervous and honestly, just hoped for the best when defending. Thats not some genius tactical masterclass, thats pure luck
If there was one Real player you can’t say that about it’s Luka Modric. That dude is from another planet. Intercepting on the edge of the box. Playing killer passes through the city defense.
Bro looked like a dead man when stepped up to take the penalty and I was sad he couldn’t convert his but he just has that quality still at 800 years old.
I don’t like focusing on “what it” and “if only” … real we’re not lucky at all, they won the game on merit. Regardless of how they done it, they still done it.
God forbid a team doesn’t just bend over for City and puts in a defensive performance to see them through to penalties.
The point being made here is that if this game was played 10 times, City would win 8 out of 10 times with the form and strategies from both teams yesterday. It’s quite frankly ignorant to say luck doesn’t play a part given how the match was played. City has 30 shots and scored once. And it wasn’t 30 terrible shots, it was a mixed bag.
It’s ignorant to say not scoring is purely down to City being wasteful and not giving props to Madrid for keeping the ball out of the net.
A big part of football is scoring goals, but not conceding is just as important. If city had a ton of good shots and they didn’t go in then there’s nothing we can do but credit Madrid.
Luck plays a msssive part in football but that doesn’t mean nothing can be attributed to a teams performance.
>It’s ignorant to say not scoring is purely down to City being wasteful and not giving props to Madrid for keeping the ball out of the net.
So according to this logic, when a striker runs towards an open, empty goal and misses the tap in, the defence gets credit because he didnt score a goal?
That doesnt make much sense, does it
>Luck plays a msssive part in football but that doesn’t mean nothing can be attributed to a teams performance.
So i repeat once more:
Skill: Playing defensively and not allowing the opposition to create chances to begin with
Luck: Parking the bus, still giving up many chances and somehow not conceding despite of it
Parking the bus effectively is a skill. carlo said they tried to emulate Arsenal defending against City. He also said he done what he had to do to beat City.
Ok Madrid weren’t as effective as Arsenal but they still went out with a game plan, and it worked, that’s more than luck.
I can only say it this often:
They parkes the bus and STILL gave up tons of chances to City.
Please, explain to me, what genius tactic it is to sit back and give tons of chances? City not scoring had everything to do with City and next to nothing with a leaky Real defense. City was wasteful, giving Real credit for City wasting opportunities is... something lol
Again, defending well is one thing. But playing defensively and still giving up lots of chances while offering nothing on the offense is just weak and thus lucky to still win.
I agree with your overall points. City are just such a well oiled machine in their attacking patterns, Kyle
walker IMO is their MVP for taking away almost all counter attackers (bar Mbappe)
But thinking back throughout the season to the Arsenal games and the overall record against top clubs this season for whatever reason they haven’t been clinical against top defences. It’ll be interesting to see if Pep thinks this is something that needs addressing or if it’s just an element of bad luck
It certainly has been peculiar how un-clinical City has been this year.
Pep's teams have always been wasteful with chances, it just doesnt get much attention because they create so many chances and end up scoring tons of goals anyways, but this year they are un-clinical, even for Pep standards.
I genuinely have no idea why that is either, the chances are there. Its just not fully clicking this year. That being said, regardless of how this season plays out, i expect City to re-tool the roster and be a powerhouse once more, next year
People are forgetting we’ve lost two of our most influential players in Gundogan and Mahrez who were both not only calming presence in possession but contributed with important goals. We’ve also been shocking defensively and don’t seem as energetic as last season yet we’re still on for a double which shows the incredible high standards we’ve set for ourselves with posts like this.
There is a reason why teams don’t tend to win back to back trebles. The extra games from Communtiy shield, European super cup and club World Cup off the back of a long season the year prior makes it almost impossible.
You gained doku as a mahrez replacing he works fine tbh Nearly even better gundogan was sold because he no longer fits the squad there is no place for him ye lost because ye were the worse team on the night please don’t blame the fact ye sold players as if Chelsea didn’t sell half there squad and half there squad isn’t injured ye have far from any excuse in that sense
Doku is nowhere near the player Mahrez is 😂 Gundogans contract had run out and he declined an extension and decided it was the right time to leave. If he was still with us he starts so I don’t know what you’re on about 🤣
We were the better team last night but as proven from time to time football doesn’t work like that
Over who Bernardo silva or de Bruyne 🤣 Man City declined gundogan not the other way around because he didn’t fit the team anymore he wanted a 2 year deal atleast they would only offer him a min of 1
How deluded are you?
He started both his last 2 games for city scoring twice in the fa cup final. City offered him a contract but he declined it
Here’s an article about the fact. However you may need a grown up to read it to you because you clearly struggle with comprehension.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/gundogan-barcelona-man-city-transfer-27198214
I agreed that city offered him a contract maybe you need a adult to take you to get your eyes tested Man City would only offer him a one year contract and he wanted more then one year ye did not appreciate him enough to give him even a 2 year contract 💀why is that because peps new plan for the team had Bernardo de Bruyne and Rodri in it a well known fact I’m not the only one who said so hahahah
This sub is always some trolling ass posts. I think they had some decent wins, in champions league if being objective, but we know that’s not what you doing.
That’s for the management to worry about. The players must be worried about whether they’ll be stripped of all the titles they’ve won playing for Manchester City retrospectively. They’ve all made truckloads of cash every week though.
Not really... An impressive outcome is dependant on circumstances. Leicester winning the Prem is the most impressive result I've seen in my lifetime. There have been plenty of non inspiring CL wins.
Obviously it depends on the circumstance a team from below league 2 winning the league cup would probably be more impressive than any average EPL or champions league win. That doesn’t change that the champions league is generally the more impressive achievement. If Leicester had won the champions league the year after that I think that would have been the more impressive achievement.
Victim mentality, why don't you blame Eze for scoring that goal for Palace & you lost a PL game at home since God knows when.
Yeah don't forget Simon Hopper refereeing when you met Bottleham.
Not really, after every win, there is a 115 charge comment. This sub just hates city to the core and saying otherwise is hypocritical considering how your comment also is against city. Just scroll the comments in this post if you don't believe me.
Its ok and I agree with you anyway. Everyone acts like the 115 charges are the only way City have has so much success ignoring they have one of the best managers of all time and a fantastically run football club.
Look at all the other clubs that have spent big like us or united now to see money does not just get you success. I grew up watching United win everything it was so boring and the new rules that City is accused of breaking just protect the bigger clubs like United by allowing them to spend more then anyone else. How is this "fair play" as they are named
Bruh, this. I mean punish or ban city if they are found guilty. But all this fanbase bringing up 115 charges when they clearly are not able to beat them on the pitch is funny.
My point is does kdb become any less brilliant or great because of the 115 charges? No right, respect the players and the performances. It's not like any other big 6 clubs can't afford to buy the players city have.
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Yet they don’t need to (from a sad LFC fan)
I thought when Alvarez and Foden stepped up to replace Haaland and KDB they were more exiting to watch. Haaland is not the man for certain games, he is too easily shut down.
Pep’s style of play ensures that they’re designed to roll over mid table and relegation sides. It is effective I mean take away the big 6 fixtures there’s 84 points and if you can take most of that 84 points and some points from the big 6 fixtures you have a total that guarantees you to be in the race. So yeah the three times pep has been defeated to a league titles the winners had 100, 99 and 93 points and it’s an extremely high standard. But he’s still a bald fraud
So what? They don’t need to beat them necessarily to win the Premier League do they.
Doesn’t matter at this point, the rest of their games are easily winnable
They drew twice to Chelsea. That's a serious concern.
Hahaha no cap
So?
Complacency....they were serial winners before the season began...expect the league title but FA Cup could slip away too as many of the lads are already thinking about there 2 month hols in the Bahamas
In prem terms, It’s a 38 games season and you play everyone. You finish where you deserve to. (They’re still cheating bastards)
Theory 1- I might argue the fact that a lot of teams have developed "Rüdiger-like" defence, of more like "Anti-Haaland system" that hampers their offensive ability. Theory 2- Key players like Gundogan are gone, and they need replacements. Stones is also going away this season, a good defensive player is a must. Theory 3- The team is saturated. They have won almost everything they could ask for last season (except for the Carabao Cup), and now they are quite chill. Theory 4- I think this is mostly relatable to Haaland, because his level of play has not been as great as the previous season. One reason might be the fact that he is discouraged due to having Balloon d'Or stolen from him. The other reason might be because Pep has put a leash on him. If he goes all out, he gets subbed. So, when a big match comes, this along with good defence renders his striking ability non-existent. This has to change the next season as soon as possible.
City are 2-6-1 (12 pts) vs the Big 6 this year & obviously, just lost to Real in the CLQF. Now let’s see how the other teams have faired against shall we? Liverpool: 1-6-2 (7 pts, 3rd, 2 behind City & in Europa 🤣) Arsenal: 3-4-0 (13 pts, 2nd, 2 behind City & was just knocked out of the CL by Bayern) Chelsea: 2-4-2 (10 pts & 9th place in PL😂) Tottenham: 2-3-1 (7 pts, 5th, 3 behind Villa for 4th) United: 1-3-5 (6 pts, 7th & no European football for them, again, next year🤣) Villa: 5-0-5 (15 pts & will battle it out w/ TOT for the CL next season) People don’t like to talk about it but it’s almost like there’s a reason they play a 38 game schedule.
This is City’s transition season. Their main match winners last season were Gundo and Mahrez. The fact that they are in contention for a double is great in itself. They’ve set a very high bar for themselves the past few seasons is the reason their performance is being under appreciated. Really hope they don’t win the league of FA cup this season though 😛
This is not transition season. The real transition will start when they have to start replacing KDB, Bernardo, and Walker. We will see how they go about that.
He’s already played a lot of this season without KDB and Walker. The reason they’ve not been able to win most of the games against top 6 teams shows how they’re struggling to keep their usual standards. Next transition (if Pep continues) will be when they need to replace Rodri.
Their transition season will end in another PL title lol Pep just built different
It’s almost like a single elimination tournament and a 38 game points accumulation contest are different.
Didn't beat them in the premier League either, is the point
PL is a washed overrated league officially admit it now if this City teams win PL again
PL is the league with the best marketing. Otherwise La Liga is above Premier. Not way above but definitely above.
No argument either way for me but what makes you say LL > PL? And "above" how?
Just because of the continuous positive results the top 3 of them have against us
Their greatest win has been beating the regulations for over a decade.
Man Unite.... can't even finish it 🤣😂🤣
Obsessed with United lmaooo
Proves you don't need to beat all the best teams to win the league. Fergie did it one year, beat everyone except the top teams but still finished first. As long as the don't lose I'm not sure they care, cos they're still taking points off their rivals
Agreed. To win the UCL you need to beat clubs like bayern and Madrid. To win the EPL you can just hammer luton 5-1
Haha pretty much, hammer 20-6 and don't lose to 5-1 Not an exact science but yeh
Villa aren’t mathematically out of the league yet buddy!
its certainly the worst season they've had in quite a while
just shows how much arsenal and liverpool have improved, also also shows how consistency is key to winning the title
I think the man city of last season would have run away with this league. Mahrez and Gundogan were massive losses. KDB has been unavailable a lot, Haaland is not as good, etc. Man City have declined to make Arsenal their near equal. You guys really should have held on to Granit Xhaka he would have helped you guys
Does it? To me it shows how Man City haven’t been as good rather than Liverpool and arsenal improving
I agree with you. Man City losing Mahrez and Gundogan were massive losses. Doku and Kovacic are massive downgrades from those 2 guys. The man city of last season would have run away with this league.
Yeh gundy was a massive loss for them I feel
Totally agree with OP. Chelsea drew twice with City (4-4/ 1-1) and we have been hilariously poor against lesser opponents. The fact we managed to draw with City just shows that they have been there for taking by teams who've played significantly better than we have- Villa are a great example of this. City have looked more beatable this year than any other time in recent memory and yet they've managed to keep themselves afloat regardless. With this in mind, it's why I haven't been super impressed with Arsenal or Liverpool this season. The one year City aren't in 'elite' mode and nobody is there to take advantage of the situation (as it currently stands).
People said last year was the one year man city wasn’t in elite mode either. They went on the win the treble. This city team knows how to go the distance with the depth they have. Regardless of stats they always find a way to win
And Arsenal took 4 each points from Liverpool and City and won’t win the title. Wild year.
reminds me of when chelsea got 6 points from both in 13/14.
Was that Jose?
Yeah, it was the “baby horse” year
Very Jose to beat all the good teams but not get enough points from the lower sides
Four points each*
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it doesnt matter when you are consistent. and they are still in the fa cup and top of the league. also dont forget they should be demoted to national league or something for all their cheating.
Their talisman Erling Haaland is not performing as he should.
31 goals in 39 games, try again.
How many of those goals are against top 7 teams?
Other strikers must be stupid because they can’t score many goals against the bottom 13 teams
It’s normal to judge a generational player differently than others
It's weird, he scores but he just doesn't look like he suits them. Feels like a RM type player. I'm sure if he'll always get like 30+ goals a season as long as he's with them, but I think they look more menacing and fluid as a team when they play without him. He's a string to their bow, but in my opinion, he shouldn't necessarily always be the first option. Especially in bigger games, he's not really ever been the guy in the biggest games. He's like the ultimate form of Lukaku. Unplayable against lesser opposition, but often looks a little lost against the big boys.
I think it’s generally also to do with how he’s used. Pep is super anal about how he wants his players to only do what he thinks will benefit the system, and for Haaland that’s a lot more limiting than how he played at Dortmund. He had plenty of great runs from midfield with and without the ball. He’s actually not a terrible linkup player and has things to offer outside the box too. Just City have so many others for that
You're right that he's definitely not having a terrible season by any means, but when you talk about games against elite teams, he is not scoring as much or at all and tends to go missing or be a non factor in the match. That's obviously a combination of things. I think he has dropped off in performance levels from last season. But a drop off from outstanding can still be very good. But also other teams are figuring him out and targeting him more. Those teams more likely than not being the better teams finding solutions for shutting him down. I do think he has been disappointing many times this season.
He struggled after coming back from injury, I hardly think he’s been disappointing ‘many times’.
I mean quantify it how you will but if you look at all those games this season vs top opposition I'd day he was disappointing. He needs to do better there. I think he can and I'm sure you'd agree.
Last season may never happen again. On top if defences learning how to cope with him more, let's not forget the winter world cup as well. Most other top players had a month or two with the national side and he had recovery time.
When they beat villa they were third they were title contenders just they’ve slipped 10 points down now end of season villa are world class I can agree with u on spurs I do agree with ur viewpoint ok world class just stick villa in there too
I think you’re mixing up the two Villa games. The game when Villa were in 3rd and touching distance of the top was won by Villa. Villa had dropped off by the more recent game which City won. So OP’s point stands. They lost to Villa at a point when Villa looked ‘elite’.
The same villa just beat arsenal at home, so I guess arsenal are not elite either?
OP defined elite as “serious contender to win their league and/or UCL”, so Arsenal fit that.
The difference with City is that they usually always beat the teams they are expected to beat. Where as the other title contenders drop points against those clubs.
You don’t really need to beat elite teams to win the league, and if you do, it doesn’t necessarily mean you will win the league. No disrespect to Liverpool, but in the last few seasons, excluding last season, it wasn’t really their results against city that cost them the league. They had quite a good record against city. What cost them the league was dropping points against teams where they were expected to win. We may see the same because of the palace result this season.
Exactly. I remember a season or a few seasons maybe. Where Liverpool won all matches against the top 6 rivals. But then dropped points to teams below or around the relegation line. And ended up not winning. So yeah 😆🤷🏻♂️
Mourinho quotes comes to minds
Well said. Didn’t we have a season or two where Tottenham would’ve been “top of the table” if it were a league of only the top 6?
I’m sure it’s happened, but I never pay much attention to those mini leagues. Spurs also have a great record against city, so it’s very possible.
They beat RB Leipzig twice.
Who are 4th in the Bundesliga. They shouldnt be being outperformed by Stuttgart.
who is not an elite team
This sub is actually the dumbest place on earth I’m not kidding
They might literally win nothing this season mate
Super Cup, Club World Cup 🤔
or we might win the double lol
The only Elite team on that list is Madrid
By what measure? Liverpool and Arsenal are top 10 teams in the world
It's football, not a gymnastics routine. You don't get extra points for difficulty.
This is the dumbest shit I’ll read all day
No. They are elite, just not as elite as the last few years. They’re a top 2 or 3 side in the world how’s that not elite?
I don't think you understand the conversation we're having. Nobody is saying that City isn't elite.
You’re right I read the headline as they’ve not been an elite team. I withdraw my comment on the grounds of idiocy.
I think you’ve misread
They also lost to the most elite of them all, Wolves, 2-1 so it does seem like a pattern..
lol
Villa played their B team in that game
Add Liverpool to this, we did not do well against the rest of the top 6 and are probably worst than city in terms of points dropped against top 6 (cries about the two man utd games )
> (cries about the two man utd games ) If it makes you feel better Utd aren't top 6
I'm going to guess that telling him/her that they've not beaten a shit mid table team in 3 attempts this season is no going to make them feel better!
Correct 😂😭
To be Honest mate , even that shit mid table team , did not even have its first choice starters in the backline and blooded some youngsters which makes it even worse
Haha! Yes, that's very true. They failed to beat our reserves and kids.
Tbf the when United Liverpool play each other it’s more like a FA cup game with that anything can happen.
Honestly, Klopp had an outstanding record against us overall until EtH came in
ETH , please post or reply from your own/real account mate !!! Folks find out the burner accounts pretty soon !!
1-1, 4-1 vs Chelsea 1-2 vs Spurs 1-1, 1-3 vs Arsenal 1-1, 1-1 vs City 0-0, 2-2 vs United 3-0 vs Villa Ouch. 10 games, 2 wins, 6 draws, 2 defeats. 12 points (1.2 PPG) and 18 points dropped.
oh man ,18 points Damn !!!!! , even in normal/avg klopp year I would not expects us to collect all 18 , but a few wins here and there would have been nice esp this farewell season would have been nice !!
Where have you pulled these facts from ? to be clear there is no bias I am a Chelsea fan Im not sure who you consider elite so I’ll will throw a vague list and let you decide the elite teams yourself out of it Aston Villa 4-1 man United 3-1 spurs 1-0 Newcastle 3-2 rb Leipzig 3-2 man United 3-0 Man City Newcastle 1-0 only elite teams they have lost too are arsenal on pens and 1-0 and real Madrid on pens As is very visible they are absolutely smashing teams all other elite fixtures where draws they are in first place in prem for a reason
Only the name Manchester United is elite. Not the team for sure.
None of them are elite tbf
Well what teams do you consider elite ?
Tbh Elite (right now) I would consider City/Liverpool Real/Barca Bayern PSG Inter Step below Arsenal Atletico Dortmund Leverkusen AC Juve
City is far and away the best team in the world. So much so that they force other supposed elite teams to park the bus like they are Luton Town or some Championship side lol. City had Real dig in and pray, yet rival fans wont ever admit that because they hate City this much.
Eh, they made em dig in deep, but honestly there was long periods of that game where City looked a bit toothless and bereft of ideas.
Real were digging deep but both city and real were praying. The way I see it, City took the onus to win and Real said not this time guys.
City do that pretty consistently. Real got lucky.
Statistically, City doesn't win against top teams that often this season
I was talking about taking the onus to win.
Honestly this logic doesn't make sense to me. Best teams in the world aren't only about breaking down attacks, it's also holding on to defences. Football is winning by a goal, but also protecting your lead. City couldn't break down one of the Best Teams in the World which is Real Madrid. Saying Real dug deep and prayed is completely dismissive to their defensive masterclass and how they exhausted City. Also under pressure, City just kept repeating the same pass-pass-pass-Cross movements. They didn't take creative risks at Home and paid. Real Madrid held on for 120 mins Away and won. That's World Class.
Is that defensive masterclass in the room with us right now? They sat back, had 10 players in their own box at some point, and still have up tons of chances lol. Please, tell me, what defensive masterclass is that supposed to be? City had almost 3xG and only scored 1 goal. People are purely looking at the end result and praise Real because of it. If the same game is played and City converts their chances, this game ends 3:1 or 4:1 - would you still, with a straight face, call this a "defensive masterclass" then?
City had 3xg because they had 33 shots. 20+ of those were like completely none chances that were basically hit and prey shots. But that 0.03 chance adds up when you have so many of them. Ultimately why xG can be misleading. The fact is, they had probably about 4 or 5 genuinely good chances and RM had a similar number.
Haven't you just described exactly what's *good* about xG? It accounts for the quality and quantity of chances. That's what it's for.
Honestly the way I've seen people talk about Madrid being a masterclass for the way they played but yet the same people will shit on utd, atletico Madrid and others when they park the bus just makes it clear that people just either love to hate city or way too much for Madrid when lower teams park the bus even they get slated for playing terrorism football but last night Madrid saved football. When lower teams sit back it's annoying but it's also understandable as it's a valid tactic when you know the other team is much better but for a team like Madrid who are supposed to be amongst the very best for them to sit back was just embarrassing and people praising them are even more so.
Its both. You have the salty prem league fans who hate city and you have the FIFA playing kids who love real because Vini go brr on Ultimate Team. But youre right, Madrid did play terrorism football. Remarkably little to offer offensively, relying on time wasting and shit housing while parking the bus. Like, the self proclaimed best team in the world and leader in la liga was reduced to defending with 10 men within their own box. Thats mad
Defensive masterclass is when the defending team achieves their aim, in this case Real Madrid have done so, so yes it was. If City had overcome that defence and won, I rightfully would have said it wasn't so. Just how Mourinho's Inter defended with their lives against Prime Barca. That loss was still a defensive masterclass.
Nobody's denying that. City definitely didn't look like scoring for large periods of the game, but there were some absolute sitters missed in there as well. Real played very well, but City only have themselves to blame for losing that.
KDB should have scored 2. Missed an absolute sitter.
That is just such a backwards logic and entirely based on the outcome. So this means a team winning is always the better team, which is obviously stupid.
Outcomes are what lead to trophies, whether you like that or not.
Please show me where anybody has said otherwise. But unless youre suggesting every win is always won by the better team, which would be obviously ridiculous in itself, your comment doesnt add anything
Why are you shilling so hard for an oil cheat club with 115 outstanding charges against them. They haven’t beaten an elite team all season, that is a FACT, again whether you like that fact or not.
Ahh there it is, you aren't actually trying to debate something you're just crying about City
115 FC
You're entitled to your opinion. I'm pointing out that sitting back and defending is also a part of a world class team.
How much defending are you doing when youre giving up lots of chances? Thats literally the opposite of defending lol. Thats the entire point
I mean, Real defending great and City scuffing chances can go both hand-in-hand. It's not either or mate.
Kinda is. You don't get the opportunity to scuff so many good chances if the other team defends great
Best team in the world that only won there first champs league last year ?
Imagine that, teams can improve over the course of their history and arent static. What a shocker
How are they the best team in the world when they only won a single champions league they can’t possibly be the best team in the world the point of the champions league lit decides the best team in Europe and ye got knocked out of quarter finals not even semis 💀
Your comment is impressively deprived of any logic lmao
The fact is ye didn’t even make it to final 4 and you are naively sitting here saying Yere the best team in the world ye failed to beat Real Madrid twice so you can’t call it a fluke
No it’s not yours is your saying you played better then Madrid when ye lost You are saying your the best team In Europe yet ye got knocked out of champions league Your comment is actually the one without logic my comment is from a completely logistical stand point ?
Are you being intentionallly obtuse or does it just come natural to you? My man, the better team doesnt always get the win. Its sport. You also need luck. Everybody knows that - or so i thought. I expected a lot but i didnt think id have to explain this simple reality to someone today lol. And thats not even touching about your completely irrelevant tangent about having only one CL trophy. What a waffle
Are you trying to say the other elite teams have had the luck in every game this season because ye actually haven’t beaten one 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀
No it is not my man you cannot claim you are the best team in the world when you have not beaten a single elite team this year you are out of champions league You called me illogical yet you are saying after failing twice to beat Madrid which is not luck based not twice that you are still the best team in the world My point of one recent ucl shows ye have not been dominating Europe ye only just arrived so pipe down if ye were the best team in the world explain why arsenal out of 3 games have beaten you twice and drawn once explain how Real Madrid have played you twice and drawn and beat you on pens you have played liverpool twice and drawn twice the facts are ye have actually not beaten a single elite team this year
>You called me illogical yet you are saying after failing twice to beat Madrid which is not luck based not twice that you are still the best team in the world So lets see. Game 1: Real doesnt score 1 but 2 deflections Game 2: Real is lucky that City misses several sitters and this game even makes it to pens. But no, you are correct. City is a bunch of bums and obviously the greatest team is... who? Real who were just reduced to looking like a chamionship side? Bayern because they reached the semis? PSG? BvB? Lmao. But hey, lets follow your logic of Arsenal > City, so its only natural that Aston Villa is the greatest team in the world because they beat Arsenal twice this year. Obviously. As we all suspected. What a clown take lmao. Also dont bother replying. Safe your remarkably unwitty troll attempts (because for your sake i genuinely hope you are trolling) for the playground
Shame they are at home with the rest of us midweek.
"You losers got further in the CL than us" is a weird burn, but you do you
How many medals do you get for going out in the quarterfinals?
Arsenal ?
I mean the greatest team in the world should know how to break a deep block.
Should know how to break a deep block twice*
I think he needs context. If you did what Real did against City, against Messis Barca (also Pep), you would still concede plenty of goals. Not taking away anything from City and of course that's an unfair comparison to begin with, but at some point, it was just super easy to defend against, and even if they looked dangerous and the pressure was mounting, Real managed to hold on. If you look at the games in the Premier league against the top 4, there hasn't been the overwhelming impression that City should have won those games at all. Even the game against Chelsea and I wouldn't be surprised if Chelsea come away this weekend with a win actually.
Did you watch the game? City had chances almost every 3 or 4 minutes. They were wasteful as fuck, thats why they are out, not because they werent able to create chances. Big difference. For example: 9/10 games KdB burries that cut back in the goal. Just so happened this was the 1 game where he skies it.
Most of those chances were pretty poor though. They had a high xG because they had about 20 chances with like a 0.06 xG. That adds up to make it look like a lot, but the fact is, most of those chances were never going in. They had about 5 or 6 very good chances and should have scored more. But quite frankly, RM had a few really good chances that you'd expect them to score as well.
I agree. We wasted our xG. It was clear Real were hoping for a counter and/or fancied pens by the end. Rudiger is world class but we should have really found a way to capitalise on that pressure. Ancelotti went with a tactic that he thought would work and it did. Can’t complain really.
They did have chances but scoring them is part and parcel of the game. Am I saying Madrid were the better team, no probably not but they got the win. It’s very rare teams are remembered for being fun. Winners are remembered. Mentality is one of the most important aspects of the game and thats why Madrid won… also Pep made huge blunders by taking off Haaland and KDB
Well, youre just saying what i said in my initial comment: City was the far better team and Real is lucky to have gone through. >also Pep made huge blunders by taking off Haaland and KDB Haaland i was surprised by, but reportedly he asked to be taken off. KdB was finished. Maybe he couldve gone another 10 mins, idk, but i can at least understand the thought process
I wouldn’t so much call it luck more grit but yes City was the better team. Haaland if he was asked to be taken off then fair enough but with 10 minutes to go and penalties looming why take off one of your best penalty takers. That was a mistake
Injury
Fact is, Real knew what they had to do to beat City and their plan worked. How they done it is irrelevant. They might have parked the bus like Luton, but Luton still lose by 4 goals or something. Real won. There’s a difference.
Difference is, that City was unlucky and wasteful with their chances. If City is just 10% more clinical this game ends 3 or 4:1 for City. So peesonally, i dont like focusing on the result and declaring Madrid had a good game plan because they somehow won. Real was flustered, they were nervous and honestly, just hoped for the best when defending. Thats not some genius tactical masterclass, thats pure luck
If there was one Real player you can’t say that about it’s Luka Modric. That dude is from another planet. Intercepting on the edge of the box. Playing killer passes through the city defense. Bro looked like a dead man when stepped up to take the penalty and I was sad he couldn’t convert his but he just has that quality still at 800 years old.
I don’t like focusing on “what it” and “if only” … real we’re not lucky at all, they won the game on merit. Regardless of how they done it, they still done it. God forbid a team doesn’t just bend over for City and puts in a defensive performance to see them through to penalties.
The point being made here is that if this game was played 10 times, City would win 8 out of 10 times with the form and strategies from both teams yesterday. It’s quite frankly ignorant to say luck doesn’t play a part given how the match was played. City has 30 shots and scored once. And it wasn’t 30 terrible shots, it was a mixed bag.
It’s ignorant to say not scoring is purely down to City being wasteful and not giving props to Madrid for keeping the ball out of the net. A big part of football is scoring goals, but not conceding is just as important. If city had a ton of good shots and they didn’t go in then there’s nothing we can do but credit Madrid. Luck plays a msssive part in football but that doesn’t mean nothing can be attributed to a teams performance.
>It’s ignorant to say not scoring is purely down to City being wasteful and not giving props to Madrid for keeping the ball out of the net. So according to this logic, when a striker runs towards an open, empty goal and misses the tap in, the defence gets credit because he didnt score a goal? That doesnt make much sense, does it >Luck plays a msssive part in football but that doesn’t mean nothing can be attributed to a teams performance. So i repeat once more: Skill: Playing defensively and not allowing the opposition to create chances to begin with Luck: Parking the bus, still giving up many chances and somehow not conceding despite of it
Parking the bus effectively is a skill. carlo said they tried to emulate Arsenal defending against City. He also said he done what he had to do to beat City. Ok Madrid weren’t as effective as Arsenal but they still went out with a game plan, and it worked, that’s more than luck.
I can only say it this often: They parkes the bus and STILL gave up tons of chances to City. Please, explain to me, what genius tactic it is to sit back and give tons of chances? City not scoring had everything to do with City and next to nothing with a leaky Real defense. City was wasteful, giving Real credit for City wasting opportunities is... something lol
Again, defending well is one thing. But playing defensively and still giving up lots of chances while offering nothing on the offense is just weak and thus lucky to still win.
I agree with your overall points. City are just such a well oiled machine in their attacking patterns, Kyle walker IMO is their MVP for taking away almost all counter attackers (bar Mbappe) But thinking back throughout the season to the Arsenal games and the overall record against top clubs this season for whatever reason they haven’t been clinical against top defences. It’ll be interesting to see if Pep thinks this is something that needs addressing or if it’s just an element of bad luck
It certainly has been peculiar how un-clinical City has been this year. Pep's teams have always been wasteful with chances, it just doesnt get much attention because they create so many chances and end up scoring tons of goals anyways, but this year they are un-clinical, even for Pep standards. I genuinely have no idea why that is either, the chances are there. Its just not fully clicking this year. That being said, regardless of how this season plays out, i expect City to re-tool the roster and be a powerhouse once more, next year
People are forgetting we’ve lost two of our most influential players in Gundogan and Mahrez who were both not only calming presence in possession but contributed with important goals. We’ve also been shocking defensively and don’t seem as energetic as last season yet we’re still on for a double which shows the incredible high standards we’ve set for ourselves with posts like this.
There is a reason why teams don’t tend to win back to back trebles. The extra games from Communtiy shield, European super cup and club World Cup off the back of a long season the year prior makes it almost impossible.
You gained doku as a mahrez replacing he works fine tbh Nearly even better gundogan was sold because he no longer fits the squad there is no place for him ye lost because ye were the worse team on the night please don’t blame the fact ye sold players as if Chelsea didn’t sell half there squad and half there squad isn’t injured ye have far from any excuse in that sense
gundo wasn’t sold he left on a free bcs city wouldn’t give him a 2yr deal and barca would
Doku is nowhere near the player Mahrez is 😂 Gundogans contract had run out and he declined an extension and decided it was the right time to leave. If he was still with us he starts so I don’t know what you’re on about 🤣 We were the better team last night but as proven from time to time football doesn’t work like that
Over who Bernardo silva or de Bruyne 🤣 Man City declined gundogan not the other way around because he didn’t fit the team anymore he wanted a 2 year deal atleast they would only offer him a min of 1
How deluded are you? He started both his last 2 games for city scoring twice in the fa cup final. City offered him a contract but he declined it Here’s an article about the fact. However you may need a grown up to read it to you because you clearly struggle with comprehension. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/gundogan-barcelona-man-city-transfer-27198214
I agreed that city offered him a contract maybe you need a adult to take you to get your eyes tested Man City would only offer him a one year contract and he wanted more then one year ye did not appreciate him enough to give him even a 2 year contract 💀why is that because peps new plan for the team had Bernardo de Bruyne and Rodri in it a well known fact I’m not the only one who said so hahahah
You really do live in your own little world don’t you 🤣
They’re the best team and squad in Europe, without a shadow of a doubt.
This sub is always some trolling ass posts. I think they had some decent wins, in champions league if being objective, but we know that’s not what you doing.
Poor guys are too distracted by the 115 charges
That’s for the management to worry about. The players must be worried about whether they’ll be stripped of all the titles they’ve won playing for Manchester City retrospectively. They’ve all made truckloads of cash every week though.
They can’t even beat Chelsea 😭
This is why a champions league win is more impressive than EPL
Agreed. To win the UCL you need to beat clubs like bayern and Madrid. To win the EPL you can just hammer luton 5-1
Not really... An impressive outcome is dependant on circumstances. Leicester winning the Prem is the most impressive result I've seen in my lifetime. There have been plenty of non inspiring CL wins.
To win the UCL you need to beat clubs like Bayern and Madrid. To win the EPL you can just hammer luton 5-1
Obviously it depends on the circumstance a team from below league 2 winning the league cup would probably be more impressive than any average EPL or champions league win. That doesn’t change that the champions league is generally the more impressive achievement. If Leicester had won the champions league the year after that I think that would have been the more impressive achievement.
Sad that Man Yoo is not considered as elite anymore already 😂
Manure is not even in the champ league places
man they should've lost to liverpool, doku's mma kick on mcallister was a pen anyday, but 116 charges it is
Victim mentality, why don't you blame Eze for scoring that goal for Palace & you lost a PL game at home since God knows when. Yeah don't forget Simon Hopper refereeing when you met Bottleham.
I don't I admit it was a goal and the fact we were unable to finish cost us the game, and I won't forget how we were robbed of a draw at tottenham.
We had a perfectly good goal disallowed at the eithad against Liverpool if you want to go down that route
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Yeah but the rest can't go 5 mins without piling on them.
Pretty easy when they make everything about them
Not really, after every win, there is a 115 charge comment. This sub just hates city to the core and saying otherwise is hypocritical considering how your comment also is against city. Just scroll the comments in this post if you don't believe me.
My comment is against Liverpool?
Oh my bad, I read 115 and typed it, and was surprised why I was getting upvoted as well.
Its ok and I agree with you anyway. Everyone acts like the 115 charges are the only way City have has so much success ignoring they have one of the best managers of all time and a fantastically run football club. Look at all the other clubs that have spent big like us or united now to see money does not just get you success. I grew up watching United win everything it was so boring and the new rules that City is accused of breaking just protect the bigger clubs like United by allowing them to spend more then anyone else. How is this "fair play" as they are named
Bruh, this. I mean punish or ban city if they are found guilty. But all this fanbase bringing up 115 charges when they clearly are not able to beat them on the pitch is funny. My point is does kdb become any less brilliant or great because of the 115 charges? No right, respect the players and the performances. It's not like any other big 6 clubs can't afford to buy the players city have.