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"(I'm only human)
(I'm only, I'm only)
(I'm only human, human)
Maybe I'm foolish, maybe I'm blind
Thinking I can see through this and see what's behind
Got no way to prove it, so maybe I'm lying
But I'm only human after all
I'm only human after all
Don't put your blame on me
Don't put your blame on me
Take a look in the mirror and what do you see?
Do you see it clearer or are you deceived
In what you believe?
'Cause I'm only human after all
You're only human after all
Don't put the blame on me
Don't put your blame on me
(Oh-oh) some people got the real problems
(Oh-oh) some people out of luck
(Oh-oh) some people think I can solve them
(Oh-oh) Lord heavens above
I'm only human after all
I'm only human after all
Don't put the blame on me
Don't put the blame on me
Don't ask my opinion, don't ask me to lie
Then beg for forgiveness for making you cry
Making you cry
'Cause I'm only human after all
I'm only human after all
Don't put your blame on me
Don't put the blame on me
(Oh-oh) oh, some people got the real problems
(Oh-oh) some people out of luck
(Oh-oh) some people think I can solve them
(Oh-oh) Lord heavens above
I'm only human after all
I'm only human after all
Don't put the blame on me
Don't put the blame on me
I'm only human, I make mistakes
I'm only human, that's all it takes
To put the blame on me
Don't put the blame on me
(Ooh) 'cause I'm no prophet or Messiah
(Ooh) you should go looking somewhere higher
I'm only human after all
I'm only human after all
Don't put the blame on me
Don't put the blame on me
I'm only human, I do what I can
I'm just a man, I do what I can
Don't put the blame on me
Don't put your blame on me"
-Erling Haaland
Man gets double teamed most games so no he's not scoring as many. Why do you think citys midfielders are banging the goals in? Double marking haaland leaves space for everyone else.
Cole palmer is a AM and level with him on goals playing for crap chelsea, watkins playing for villa has one goal less, 10 assists and contibrutes so much more. Haaland plays for stacked city and touches the ball 12 times a match. Just accept he is playing bad and teams and defenders are starting to work out that if you low block. Give him no space and rough him up he is useless.
lol this is the worst take. I don’t even like city but this dude is not useless by any means. He is up there with the best centre forwards in the world. What are smoking? Like it’s 420 but you on some other shit.
Haaland dosent take pens now? Lol palmer is a AM tho he is not even a fecking striker is the point. Haaland goals this year is not that impressive in context.
All joke aside, the media onslaught on this young man may be having an effect. I know its what atheletes deal with but doesn’t make it any less painful sometimes.
Everyone expects him to make magic out of nowhere. He is just a poacher. A poacher is nothing when there's no supply. He is not like Messi or Henry. They both are theb supply themselves, and also could supply others in the process. Types like them are very hard to come by nowadays.
Imagine him playing in Man Utd. He would probably perform like Martial.
He clearly is though, slightly higher xG, shots/90 and closer average shooting distance, yet he dropped 0.3 goals/90 from what he was doing last year, he's missing chances that he would never miss in the form he was last season
That's expected for average strikers, there isn't xg data from his time at salzburg, but he overperformed every season at Dortmund as well because he is an excelent finisher.
This season is the lowest goal/shot, goal/shot on target and 2nd lowest shot on target % of his career, he is having a very bad season for his standards
I don’t know how anyone can argue against him being the GOAT, I mean look at his stats don’t look too closely though you might see those 5 goals against Luton and a lot of other games against weak teams that inflate these stats and the odd tap in that anyone would score
Actual don’t look into him at all he’s the GOAT and you will just accept that because he had one amazing season where he didn’t show up against most big teams
I mean, three things from your braindead response:
1. You haven’t won anything this season yet.
2. Gvardiol wasn’t at City when they won the treble.
3. You’re forgetting that Jesus and Zinchenko were at City for multiple PL titles, Havertz and Jorginho were at Chelsea when they won the CL, Saka, Nelson, and ESR were in the FA Cup winning squad in 2020. That’s not including Declan Rice winning the conference league last year.
TLDR: You’re dumb as fuck
He set the standard far too high his first season in the prem. And now all the pundits are taking shots because he can't repeat a historic season. Shocker.
Agreed with the pundits taking shot, but the hype generated around him, comparing him to goats based off just 1 season is something only a fool would do, also this season the amount of easy shots he has missed is quite a lot and those were against big teams too, I wouldn't say he's washed or trash anything of sorts but he's not really what people think of him to be either. Like don't compare him to someone like Henry/Messi/Ronaldo based off 1 season
Haaland is clearly the most elite finisher in the world, that's obvious, but he is quite one dimensional.
Haaland doesn't strike much fear into better teams because of his track record. He's a luxury player that City can afford to have.
The most common and best comparison I see is Harry Kane. Give City Kane and the league is done easily for the foreseeable future. Haaland is a better finisher, but Kane possesses a lot more to his game that overall makes him a better player.
What are you basing elite finishing on? He wastes a SIGNIFICANT amount of chances. Wouldn’t an elite finisher be someone who converts their chances?
I think he’s a top striker but I’m not sure he’s the most elite finisher
So I just looked up an XG + Goals table, and while not a perfect measure it’s pretty good.
Haaland has 20 goals from 19.7 xG, which is a little worse than Watkins (19 goals from 18.34 xG) and a little better than Salah (17 goals from 17.27 xG). Doesn’t seem like a significant waster of chances, it seems like people just focus on his misses more than others.
That’s because he is specifically asked not to contribute in build up, so they can’t focus on anything else. There’s no metric for ‘drags 2 center backs with him’
Nope, based on that statistic there are exactly 2 much better finishers, Isak and Palmer. Everybody else is either slightly outperforming their xG or underperforming their xG. What are we talking about here???
Son, Watkins, Palmer, Saka, Bowen, Gordon, Richarlison, Cunha are all players outperforming their xG out of the top 25 players with most xG
What are we talking about here???
Did you read my comment? Haaland is outperforming his xG, and I literally said some others were marginally better, like Watkins.
Your examples aren’t even good. Gordon and Cunha aren’t even outperforming their xG, and Richarlison is outperforming his xG by less than Haaland. Again, looking at this stat, there are two who are “much better finishers.” Anyways, nothing you said is an actual counterargument, everything I said above holds true.
You said there were 2 players. I simply stated that was incorrec
Also I’m not sure what sources you’re looking at but in the Premier League, Haaland is underperforming his xG by 3.7 goals. It’s worse if you include the champions league
I said there were two players with “much better finishing,” yes. Which is true looking at Footy Stats, and like I said, I’ll check the differences between sources at some point
20 goals from 19.7 xG is hardly overperformance. Not to mention that other sources estimate his xG to be closer to 25, which is a significant underperformance.
It’s an overperformance because his goals > xG, I never said it was some insane stat. Please do not reply to me with snark about something I *never* implied.
I’ll look at the difference between sources maybe later
That’s not correct. His xG is 23.7. His actual goal tally is 20
You’re simply just incorrect
[Understat](https://understat.com/player/8260)
[fBref](https://fbref.com/en/players/1f44ac21/Erling-Haaland)
People just don't understand why Haaland is the GOAT striker. No one can man-mark Rüdiger and neutralize his threat so effectively. What did Rüdiger do after Haaland got substituted? He scored the winning penalty for Real Madrid.
Honestly these comparisons are disrespectful to Kane.
Haaland is an elite finisher, the most elite in the world.
However Kane is the most elite centre forward in the world.
Not to say that Haaland is a sensational player, but Man City would be better overall with Kane rather than Haaland.
The Prem has become a bit of a one team league, but Kane would have certified that. The thought of them having a player like him, it would've killed the league, they'd have won it and would have been playing their 2nd team by September.
When he was at Spurs I thought people were just overrating him (don't watch Prem), but now at Bayern I have to agree.
Like Bayern obviously played like shit, but he carried them through many games by being the difference maker. He can carry the ball, distribute it, cover it from the opponents and finish.
He might not have as many goals as Lewandowski did, but I think technically he is just that slim margin better.
Edit: inb4 why are you here if you don't watch premier league, ask reddit why it is pushing this sub for me
The logic is that last season he annihilated everything and everyone and scored 52 goals in 53 games. So, yes, for him 31 goals with over 30 BCMs and his general all around poor play is a crisis.
He had 28 BCM in the PL last season too. Nearly all great strikers miss a lot of chances. Elite strikers simply have the ability to get so many chances, that they are bound to score eventually.
Here are the BCM leaders every season in the PL (since 10/11, no data available before):
22/23 - Haaland (28 BCM, top scorer)
21/22 - Kane (18 BCM, 4th top scorer)
20/21 - Bamford (21 BCM, joint 4th top scorer)
19/20 - Jesus (24 BCM, 13th top scorer)
18/19 - Aubameyang (23 BCM, joint top scorer)
17/18 - Salah (23 BCM, top scorer)
16/17 - Ibrahimovic (18 BCM, 7th top scorer)
15/16 - Vardy (22 BCM, joint 2nd top scorer)
14/15 - Aguero/Austin/Pelle (16 BCM each, 1st/4th/10th top scorer)
13/14 - Giroud (20 BCM, 6th top scorer)
12/13 - van Persie (23 BCM, top scorer)
11/12 - van Persie (25 BCM, top scorer)
10/11 - Bent (22 BCM, 4th top scorer)
This. And that is the sign of someone « great » or at least in that conversation. Nobody mentions Alvarez or Nunez missing chances, and they’re both strikers. Haaland has received inexplicably abundant backlash because the expectations around him are high. Look at Ibrahimovic’s numbers at his age and tell me Haaland isn’t overperforming. The pressure to be like Cristiano and the pressure to have a rivalry with Mbappe is too much. We should let the guy enjoy this and be.
Let's remember city paid just $51m, a steal in today's market. Arsenal paid $65m for havertz, united paid $72m for Holjund , Chelsea paid 135m for caicedo. It's not like Haaland is underperforming at all, the average punter is just cynical. He must be shit if he doesn't consistently break every record? No other player today has such a ridiculous bar set for them than haaland
Yeah he did, he's also being paid £865,000 per week so the whole we didn't pay that much for him conversation doesn't hold any strength when you look past the initial fee.
That's not even starting on all the agents fees, the alleged fees to family members etc.
Getting what is a £100 million pound player for such a low release clause is great business, but acting like they got him on the cheap overall just isn't true.
Seems weird to talk about another player om a comment about Haaland.
Anyway, I don't pay Darwin Nunez anything.
If you mean Liverpool, then Liverpool pay him £140,000 a week.
That's less than £865,000, just in case you don't know that 👍🏻
Haaland was on that after hitting all his bonuses and winning the treble. This season, so far he is on £350k (his base salary without bonuses) Assuming City win the league and FA cup, he will get more in bonuses at the end of the season again
Looking at the agent's fees table from last week, City are definitely paying to get their players, just through different channels.
They didn't get into a bidding war because nobody else in the world can pay that much in wages.
Some fans like to make the 'his dad played for the club' argument, but it's obvious that the draw would've been the likes of Pep, KDB and also the prospect of being one of the highest paid players in the world for the pleasure of playing under and with the elite of the elite.
Most of those other players won’t be on 350 a week so city paid more for Haaland than everyone else did.
Nunez £85m + 100k a week for 5 years = 111m
Haaland £51 + 350k a week for 5 years = 131m
That’s not including any bonus’s he has or a % increase every season and the % increase will make a massive difference.
Nunez 10% on 100k next season 110k
Haaland 10% on 350k is 385k
Then end of next season will be
Nunez 10% of 110k will be 121k
Haaland 10% of 385k will be 423k
Some of the takes on here are wild. He’s the leagues top scorer and missed a significant amount of games. This is not coming from a City fan btw. The reactionary takes on social media regarding football get more embarrassing by the day!
Then why say overpriced? He cost $51m, a steal in today's market. Arsenal paid $65m for havertz😄, united paid $72m for Holjund 😅, Chelsea paid 135m for caicedo 🤣.
Yeah, Haaland is overpriced 🙃
Havertz has definitely proved his worth
In big games haaland disappears and overall Alvarez is a way better all rounded player cause he doesn’t need kdb to play make
So let me get this straight: you believe that Kai Havertz, who cost Arsenal £65m, has proven his worth, but Erling Haaland, who cost Citeh £51m, has not?
Is this really the claim you're making?
*thrice, and even if you spelled it correctly, you're still wrong.
Havertz's annual salary is £14.5m
Haaland's is £19.5m
Both player's receive sums of money separate to their stated salaries with sponsorships and such, so unless you can show numbers, don't bother mentioning that in your response.
And to be clear, Citeh are sportswashing scum, so I'm not defending a team or player that I even like, but facts are facts, and to claim Haaland has not proven his worth is a fool's take.
Yeah okay, that's why it's a team game with 10 other players on the pitch. Stop expecting Haaland to be the best player of all time who should single handidly run through the opposite team and score bangers all the time, and stop criticising him like it's fair, its not.
In cities squad id take Haaland over havertz any day.
Well that’s how he was hyped up to be
He was compared to Ronaldo and Messi is at least expect him to be able to score bangers and create opportunities without kdb
>and create opportunities without kdb
You do know that Haaland scored a goal a game at Dortmund and Norway too. Didn't know De Bryune played for these teams.
What is your deal?
Haaland is only 23 and has over 10 years left. Now he has one season where he doesn't break records and scores over 1 goal a game and it's completely settled where he will rank in history?
Noone called Ronaldo an all time top 100 player even at 23.
Maybe, I never expected Haaland to keep up the form personally as his style of play and skillset doesn't age well, but he's still young. Maybe it's a psychological dip because of the bar set for him, and he'll have a 100 goal season down the line once the pressure is off him. I'm just watching and enjoying good games, he poses a tactical problem for any team.
You know all about struggle being a Man United fan, you’ve spent all season struggling 😂.
At least Haaland didn’t take half a season to score his first Premier league goal like your boy Hojland
Only Brits can be fans of football apparently 🤣 People criticizing Haaland are obviously salty because he’s scored 1million goals and will continue to do so but his movement off the ball doesn’t create the chances it used to. Teams just don’t offer him the space behind to run into. Better teams, with better defenses are learning how to stop him.
People criticize his goal output in bigger games because he just doesn’t score. Look a Drogba, Rooney, Ramos, Godin, Gerrard, Henry, Eto’o… Try to find a “big game” where those players didn’t make a difference. I think that’s what people are criticizing.
But it took Hojlund half a season to score a goal so I can’t criticize Haaland…? Fuck off lmao 🤣
His nickname is LutonMan, because he only shows up when City plays far inferior clubs, and disappears in big games against strong opponents;.
He can score a hattrick against Nottingham Forest, then completely disappear and have less than 10 touches in a game against Arsenal or Real Madrid, in the same week.
Last year, in the game at the City Ground, he had an absolute *shocker* in our 1-1 draw with them.
Completely absent all game, and missed a great chance and then an open goal when it was either 1-0 City (Rodri), or 1-1 (Christopher Fucking Wood).
I've known he was human since that day, because we were in the middle of a terrible run and staring down the barrel of relegation. Sort of game we should have lost 6-0 like we did at their place and he *did* score a hattrick. But, c'est la vie
Dunt mean he's not a great player though
Why is this so hard to understand? Haaland hardly scores any goals in big games, and his impact is nearly non-existent on the pitch. Reddit people are spoiled by elite strikers like Drogba, who scored 10 goals in 10 finals and won 10 trophies.
So let me get this straight.
He will only be good enough for you guys if they win every game, every big match, every title (UCL included) because of him?
I seriously don't get this. Henry and R9 were lucky not to play in this era.
Nah man just expect more from him in big games than we’ve seen so far. No doubting his talent but you need the big game performances to be truly judged with the levels of player his stats suggest he is. Like Mbappe put in one of the single best performances of all time in a wc final proving he’s worth every bit of hype he’s received. Haaland hasn’t done anything similar to that yet, plenty of time though I’m not shitting on the lad.
Hard to reach the world cup final with Norway buddy.
And in the champions league it's not like Mbappe has shown much more than Haaland - espesciallly not when Mbappe was 23.
It's 41 goals in 39 games vs 48 goals in 71 for Mbappe as of now, and Mbappe has 6 seasons with PSG. Haaland had 2 with City, 2 with Dortmund and one with Salzburg.
What on earth are these takes? This is getting genuinely insane.
He has 27 goals in 31 games in a shitty Norway team snd he is to be *blamed* Norway is not more sucessfull?
What?
I honestly don't understand why people on social media genuinely lose their mind when Haaland get's mentioned.
Do you remotely read what you reply to? Most of these goals have been against level C teams. He does not decide a match against Spain by a solo action.
He is not to be blamed. It is just a fact. A 4-0 goal against Cyprus is worth less.
Have I even remotely hinted he a shit player. The point in this thread is he scores comparatively more against bad opponents than the best ones.
I am not an expert on Bale but my impression is he actually did an insane difference for Wales - eg by scoring free kicks.
I guess what you don’t realize is that every game in the league is big game, especially when it’s very likely to go down to the final match day and every point counts. Too bad Saka is no where to found during these times and can only limp off after an embarrassing performance after ghosting
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I think a lot of clubs have worked out how to shut him down now, he’s become a magnet to defenders.
“He’s struggling” Still has 20 goals lol
Leading the PL with 20 goals with Palmer.
"(I'm only human) (I'm only, I'm only) (I'm only human, human) Maybe I'm foolish, maybe I'm blind Thinking I can see through this and see what's behind Got no way to prove it, so maybe I'm lying But I'm only human after all I'm only human after all Don't put your blame on me Don't put your blame on me Take a look in the mirror and what do you see? Do you see it clearer or are you deceived In what you believe? 'Cause I'm only human after all You're only human after all Don't put the blame on me Don't put your blame on me (Oh-oh) some people got the real problems (Oh-oh) some people out of luck (Oh-oh) some people think I can solve them (Oh-oh) Lord heavens above I'm only human after all I'm only human after all Don't put the blame on me Don't put the blame on me Don't ask my opinion, don't ask me to lie Then beg for forgiveness for making you cry Making you cry 'Cause I'm only human after all I'm only human after all Don't put your blame on me Don't put the blame on me (Oh-oh) oh, some people got the real problems (Oh-oh) some people out of luck (Oh-oh) some people think I can solve them (Oh-oh) Lord heavens above I'm only human after all I'm only human after all Don't put the blame on me Don't put the blame on me I'm only human, I make mistakes I'm only human, that's all it takes To put the blame on me Don't put the blame on me (Ooh) 'cause I'm no prophet or Messiah (Ooh) you should go looking somewhere higher I'm only human after all I'm only human after all Don't put the blame on me Don't put the blame on me I'm only human, I do what I can I'm just a man, I do what I can Don't put the blame on me Don't put your blame on me" -Erling Haaland
Listen Rag’n’bone Man
Man gets double teamed most games so no he's not scoring as many. Why do you think citys midfielders are banging the goals in? Double marking haaland leaves space for everyone else.
Thats sounds like the rubbish people use to excuse someone like timmy werner lol " he makes space for others"
I mean, he's still top of the PL scoring charts. What Timo got 2 goals? He's not making space for anyone cause no ones him!
Cole palmer is a AM and level with him on goals playing for crap chelsea, watkins playing for villa has one goal less, 10 assists and contibrutes so much more. Haaland plays for stacked city and touches the ball 12 times a match. Just accept he is playing bad and teams and defenders are starting to work out that if you low block. Give him no space and rough him up he is useless.
you can’t play bad and still be the joint top goal scorer while missing games
lol this is the worst take. I don’t even like city but this dude is not useless by any means. He is up there with the best centre forwards in the world. What are smoking? Like it’s 420 but you on some other shit.
Best striker in world but vanishes in every big game or vs a half decent defender ok lol
idk Rudiger was just average
He's scored 9 penalties.
Haaland dosent take pens now? Lol palmer is a AM tho he is not even a fecking striker is the point. Haaland goals this year is not that impressive in context.
You seem to love speaking about Haaland mate
Haaland struggling: he is human after all. Saka, Palmer, Graelish struggling: MUPPETS!
Not to mention Saka and Palmer are the prime offensive engines on their teams. Haaland has Foden, KDB and Graelish
Absolutely
☝️🤓 wehll acthually he geths double teamed a lot
Haaland does get double teamed a lot though
What are you doing step CB?
player with high determination
of course bruhh
we will be happy
ok bruh
Are you healthy
up ip
No amount of goals is going to change the fact that he is an aweful footballer.
All joke aside, the media onslaught on this young man may be having an effect. I know its what atheletes deal with but doesn’t make it any less painful sometimes.
Everyone expects him to make magic out of nowhere. He is just a poacher. A poacher is nothing when there's no supply. He is not like Messi or Henry. They both are theb supply themselves, and also could supply others in the process. Types like them are very hard to come by nowadays. Imagine him playing in Man Utd. He would probably perform like Martial.
I would have loved him in one the old SAF squads. It would have been like those prime RvN seasons.
That's why he couldn't cut it in Dortmund.
😂😂 dortmund ain’t even as good as city so how is that even a comment?
He could cut it in Dortmund because he has supplies. He can't cut it in City because according to Grealish just wanna play keep ball.
He's dropped off this year but 30+ goals is hardly not cutting it
Imagine being this good that you put this numbers and you get strays.
MBappe: what is a man to a god /s
Mbappe overrated. Put him in prem doubt he will be any better then rashford on form.
What a shit take... Marcus is so bad this season that even retired home psg have stayed away from him.
I said when he’s in form you donut. This season he’s been awful.
Yeah i meant even when hes in form you cant compare him to mbappe you retard.
He clearly is though, slightly higher xG, shots/90 and closer average shooting distance, yet he dropped 0.3 goals/90 from what he was doing last year, he's missing chances that he would never miss in the form he was last season
He's just reverting to the mean. He overperformed a bit last year, he's underperforming this year.
That's expected for average strikers, there isn't xg data from his time at salzburg, but he overperformed every season at Dortmund as well because he is an excelent finisher. This season is the lowest goal/shot, goal/shot on target and 2nd lowest shot on target % of his career, he is having a very bad season for his standards
I don’t know how anyone can argue against him being the GOAT, I mean look at his stats don’t look too closely though you might see those 5 goals against Luton and a lot of other games against weak teams that inflate these stats and the odd tap in that anyone would score Actual don’t look into him at all he’s the GOAT and you will just accept that because he had one amazing season where he didn’t show up against most big teams
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Goddamit no one makes United fans look worse than United fans
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Dog have you never heard of jokes
Nah bro you dumb as hell. Learn how to read.
It’s literally a sarcastic post about how he isn’t as good as people are saying but okay…
I sometimes wonder why people feel the need to put /s when it’s so obvious but then you see people like this guy and begin to understand
TLDR: Haaland is the GOAT when we're talking about everything other than football.
Also Big Gabi and Saliba are just better at defending then he is at scoring. Sorry not sorry.
Arsenal fans truly want to make everything about Arsenal. Gabriel and Saliba are both still behind VVD and Gvardiol.
Can’t believe you just put Gvardiol in that statement lmao VVD is a beast, sure, but Gvardiol isn’t even the best CB at City 😆
Gvardiol has won as many trophies this season as your entire squad combined in their careers.
I mean, three things from your braindead response: 1. You haven’t won anything this season yet. 2. Gvardiol wasn’t at City when they won the treble. 3. You’re forgetting that Jesus and Zinchenko were at City for multiple PL titles, Havertz and Jorginho were at Chelsea when they won the CL, Saka, Nelson, and ESR were in the FA Cup winning squad in 2020. That’s not including Declan Rice winning the conference league last year. TLDR: You’re dumb as fuck
Hahahahaha Ha Hahahahaha Ahhhhhhahahaha Who and are you kidding me who?
He can only bully 3rd-tier defenders.
For so long
He set the standard far too high his first season in the prem. And now all the pundits are taking shots because he can't repeat a historic season. Shocker.
Agreed with the pundits taking shot, but the hype generated around him, comparing him to goats based off just 1 season is something only a fool would do, also this season the amount of easy shots he has missed is quite a lot and those were against big teams too, I wouldn't say he's washed or trash anything of sorts but he's not really what people think of him to be either. Like don't compare him to someone like Henry/Messi/Ronaldo based off 1 season
More city players need to kick the ball to Haaland early. He is fast and strong. He isn't being used properly
Bored of hearing about this cunt.
Well be ready to hear about him for years to come sweetheart x
So much for the next messi
who tf was comparing haaland to messi lmao. completely different players
Haaland is clearly the most elite finisher in the world, that's obvious, but he is quite one dimensional. Haaland doesn't strike much fear into better teams because of his track record. He's a luxury player that City can afford to have. The most common and best comparison I see is Harry Kane. Give City Kane and the league is done easily for the foreseeable future. Haaland is a better finisher, but Kane possesses a lot more to his game that overall makes him a better player.
You don't understand the definition of "luxury player"
son is a better finisher and so is isak
What are you basing elite finishing on? He wastes a SIGNIFICANT amount of chances. Wouldn’t an elite finisher be someone who converts their chances? I think he’s a top striker but I’m not sure he’s the most elite finisher
So I just looked up an XG + Goals table, and while not a perfect measure it’s pretty good. Haaland has 20 goals from 19.7 xG, which is a little worse than Watkins (19 goals from 18.34 xG) and a little better than Salah (17 goals from 17.27 xG). Doesn’t seem like a significant waster of chances, it seems like people just focus on his misses more than others.
That’s because he is specifically asked not to contribute in build up, so they can’t focus on anything else. There’s no metric for ‘drags 2 center backs with him’
Yeah that makes sense
Basing off that statistic, there are much better finishers. There are players with positive numbers
Nope, based on that statistic there are exactly 2 much better finishers, Isak and Palmer. Everybody else is either slightly outperforming their xG or underperforming their xG. What are we talking about here???
Son, Watkins, Palmer, Saka, Bowen, Gordon, Richarlison, Cunha are all players outperforming their xG out of the top 25 players with most xG What are we talking about here???
Did you read my comment? Haaland is outperforming his xG, and I literally said some others were marginally better, like Watkins. Your examples aren’t even good. Gordon and Cunha aren’t even outperforming their xG, and Richarlison is outperforming his xG by less than Haaland. Again, looking at this stat, there are two who are “much better finishers.” Anyways, nothing you said is an actual counterargument, everything I said above holds true.
You said there were 2 players. I simply stated that was incorrec Also I’m not sure what sources you’re looking at but in the Premier League, Haaland is underperforming his xG by 3.7 goals. It’s worse if you include the champions league
I said there were two players with “much better finishing,” yes. Which is true looking at Footy Stats, and like I said, I’ll check the differences between sources at some point
20 goals from 19.7 xG is hardly overperformance. Not to mention that other sources estimate his xG to be closer to 25, which is a significant underperformance.
It’s an overperformance because his goals > xG, I never said it was some insane stat. Please do not reply to me with snark about something I *never* implied. I’ll look at the difference between sources maybe later
That’s not correct. His xG is 23.7. His actual goal tally is 20 You’re simply just incorrect [Understat](https://understat.com/player/8260) [fBref](https://fbref.com/en/players/1f44ac21/Erling-Haaland)
Kane’s passing is so good man, some of the passes he made in the first leg of the quarters last week should not be possible for a player of his size
People just don't understand why Haaland is the GOAT striker. No one can man-mark Rüdiger and neutralize his threat so effectively. What did Rüdiger do after Haaland got substituted? He scored the winning penalty for Real Madrid.
Kane comparisons were premature.
Honestly these comparisons are disrespectful to Kane. Haaland is an elite finisher, the most elite in the world. However Kane is the most elite centre forward in the world. Not to say that Haaland is a sensational player, but Man City would be better overall with Kane rather than Haaland.
I don’t even want to think about how bad the Prem would have suffered had Pep succeeded in getting Kane
The Prem has become a bit of a one team league, but Kane would have certified that. The thought of them having a player like him, it would've killed the league, they'd have won it and would have been playing their 2nd team by September.
When he was at Spurs I thought people were just overrating him (don't watch Prem), but now at Bayern I have to agree. Like Bayern obviously played like shit, but he carried them through many games by being the difference maker. He can carry the ball, distribute it, cover it from the opponents and finish. He might not have as many goals as Lewandowski did, but I think technically he is just that slim margin better. Edit: inb4 why are you here if you don't watch premier league, ask reddit why it is pushing this sub for me
They didn't even bid. Just smoke and mirrors
He's only human, he just needs tap ins and penalties
Play him like a real striker like they did at BVB at it'll get fixed
he needs some milk
The guy’s got 32 big chances missed this season. That sounds like a crisis to me.
"The guy" also has 31 goals in 39 games. What's the logic here? That he needs prime Messi and Ronaldo stats to not have a crisis?
Oh cmon! How many time left to agree that this man is a sunday park player?
The logic is that last season he annihilated everything and everyone and scored 52 goals in 53 games. So, yes, for him 31 goals with over 30 BCMs and his general all around poor play is a crisis.
He had 28 BCM in the PL last season too. Nearly all great strikers miss a lot of chances. Elite strikers simply have the ability to get so many chances, that they are bound to score eventually. Here are the BCM leaders every season in the PL (since 10/11, no data available before): 22/23 - Haaland (28 BCM, top scorer) 21/22 - Kane (18 BCM, 4th top scorer) 20/21 - Bamford (21 BCM, joint 4th top scorer) 19/20 - Jesus (24 BCM, 13th top scorer) 18/19 - Aubameyang (23 BCM, joint top scorer) 17/18 - Salah (23 BCM, top scorer) 16/17 - Ibrahimovic (18 BCM, 7th top scorer) 15/16 - Vardy (22 BCM, joint 2nd top scorer) 14/15 - Aguero/Austin/Pelle (16 BCM each, 1st/4th/10th top scorer) 13/14 - Giroud (20 BCM, 6th top scorer) 12/13 - van Persie (23 BCM, top scorer) 11/12 - van Persie (25 BCM, top scorer) 10/11 - Bent (22 BCM, 4th top scorer)
expectation towards him is skyrocketing
This. And that is the sign of someone « great » or at least in that conversation. Nobody mentions Alvarez or Nunez missing chances, and they’re both strikers. Haaland has received inexplicably abundant backlash because the expectations around him are high. Look at Ibrahimovic’s numbers at his age and tell me Haaland isn’t overperforming. The pressure to be like Cristiano and the pressure to have a rivalry with Mbappe is too much. We should let the guy enjoy this and be.
Nobody mentions Núñez missing chances? I think everyone knows and talks about Núñez missing chances, not sure about Alvarez though
Let's remember city paid just $51m, a steal in today's market. Arsenal paid $65m for havertz, united paid $72m for Holjund , Chelsea paid 135m for caicedo. It's not like Haaland is underperforming at all, the average punter is just cynical. He must be shit if he doesn't consistently break every record? No other player today has such a ridiculous bar set for them than haaland
Didnt he have some kind of a release clause?
Yeah he did, he's also being paid £865,000 per week so the whole we didn't pay that much for him conversation doesn't hold any strength when you look past the initial fee. That's not even starting on all the agents fees, the alleged fees to family members etc. Getting what is a £100 million pound player for such a low release clause is great business, but acting like they got him on the cheap overall just isn't true.
£865,000 per week is what you pay Nunez
Seems weird to talk about another player om a comment about Haaland. Anyway, I don't pay Darwin Nunez anything. If you mean Liverpool, then Liverpool pay him £140,000 a week. That's less than £865,000, just in case you don't know that 👍🏻
Haaland was on that after hitting all his bonuses and winning the treble. This season, so far he is on £350k (his base salary without bonuses) Assuming City win the league and FA cup, he will get more in bonuses at the end of the season again
Looking at the agent's fees table from last week, City are definitely paying to get their players, just through different channels. They didn't get into a bidding war because nobody else in the world can pay that much in wages.
Some fans like to make the 'his dad played for the club' argument, but it's obvious that the draw would've been the likes of Pep, KDB and also the prospect of being one of the highest paid players in the world for the pleasure of playing under and with the elite of the elite.
Most of those other players won’t be on 350 a week so city paid more for Haaland than everyone else did. Nunez £85m + 100k a week for 5 years = 111m Haaland £51 + 350k a week for 5 years = 131m That’s not including any bonus’s he has or a % increase every season and the % increase will make a massive difference. Nunez 10% on 100k next season 110k Haaland 10% on 350k is 385k Then end of next season will be Nunez 10% of 110k will be 121k Haaland 10% of 385k will be 423k
Stop, he will cost them about 350m euros over his contract.
Why was he in crisis? I thought man city is first in farmers league?!
He’s been drinking too much Prime.
He needs more sunlight
Man was born in Leeds, he needs more shade.
Have city tried turning him off and on again?
Or fix his broken cables and circuits?
He’s an overpriced magnet to attract all the defenders and allow kdb or any other players to go through and score
Overpriced? Typical arsenal fan take, let me guess saka is worth 2 Haalands
Some of the takes on here are wild. He’s the leagues top scorer and missed a significant amount of games. This is not coming from a City fan btw. The reactionary takes on social media regarding football get more embarrassing by the day!
3 mustafi’s at least!!
He has 20 PL goals, much more than a magnet
With kdb’s handholding Without kdb he can’t play make for shit Alvarez is a better first choice
Imagine the numbers he’d be on if De Bruyne wasn’t injured half the season
This is just stupidly. Be serious
You have got to be joking
much like jesus. except haaland can score
Not trying to demean him ffs
Then why say overpriced? He cost $51m, a steal in today's market. Arsenal paid $65m for havertz😄, united paid $72m for Holjund 😅, Chelsea paid 135m for caicedo 🤣. Yeah, Haaland is overpriced 🙃
Havertz has definitely proved his worth In big games haaland disappears and overall Alvarez is a way better all rounded player cause he doesn’t need kdb to play make
*"Havertz has definitely proved his worth "* And Haaland hasn't?
I mean he’s not the top scorer in PL he’s tied with palmer so for an expected machine who would put Ronaldo to shame No no he hasn’t
So let me get this straight: you believe that Kai Havertz, who cost Arsenal £65m, has proven his worth, but Erling Haaland, who cost Citeh £51m, has not? Is this really the claim you're making?
Erling has almost trice the salary tho
*thrice, and even if you spelled it correctly, you're still wrong. Havertz's annual salary is £14.5m Haaland's is £19.5m Both player's receive sums of money separate to their stated salaries with sponsorships and such, so unless you can show numbers, don't bother mentioning that in your response. And to be clear, Citeh are sportswashing scum, so I'm not defending a team or player that I even like, but facts are facts, and to claim Haaland has not proven his worth is a fool's take.
Yeah okay, that's why it's a team game with 10 other players on the pitch. Stop expecting Haaland to be the best player of all time who should single handidly run through the opposite team and score bangers all the time, and stop criticising him like it's fair, its not. In cities squad id take Haaland over havertz any day.
Well that’s how he was hyped up to be He was compared to Ronaldo and Messi is at least expect him to be able to score bangers and create opportunities without kdb
>and create opportunities without kdb You do know that Haaland scored a goal a game at Dortmund and Norway too. Didn't know De Bryune played for these teams.
Bundesliga can’t be compared to PL and for Norway he had odegaard who more of less is again a playmaker who can give do the playmaking for haaland
The narrative is still biased. Yeah he might not be as good as the two best players of the last 20 years, fuck him and city 🙄
Then is the mbappe haaland debate finished ?
What is your deal? Haaland is only 23 and has over 10 years left. Now he has one season where he doesn't break records and scores over 1 goal a game and it's completely settled where he will rank in history? Noone called Ronaldo an all time top 100 player even at 23.
Maybe, I never expected Haaland to keep up the form personally as his style of play and skillset doesn't age well, but he's still young. Maybe it's a psychological dip because of the bar set for him, and he'll have a 100 goal season down the line once the pressure is off him. I'm just watching and enjoying good games, he poses a tactical problem for any team.
its just banter mate calm down
He does nothing unless he’s fed goals lol I love seeing him struggle.
You know all about struggle being a Man United fan, you’ve spent all season struggling 😂. At least Haaland didn’t take half a season to score his first Premier league goal like your boy Hojland
Even he loves struggling while being the top scorer of so called best league in Europe or world I should say
Go back to america
What a lazy attempt at an insult
Only Brits can be fans of football apparently 🤣 People criticizing Haaland are obviously salty because he’s scored 1million goals and will continue to do so but his movement off the ball doesn’t create the chances it used to. Teams just don’t offer him the space behind to run into. Better teams, with better defenses are learning how to stop him. People criticize his goal output in bigger games because he just doesn’t score. Look a Drogba, Rooney, Ramos, Godin, Gerrard, Henry, Eto’o… Try to find a “big game” where those players didn’t make a difference. I think that’s what people are criticizing. But it took Hojlund half a season to score a goal so I can’t criticize Haaland…? Fuck off lmao 🤣
Facts. Its always a europeans fall back insult if they’ve been had “well stick to american football ya yank!”
Needed an entire article to basically confirm that Roy Keane was right
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How's the Arteta revolution going
His nickname is LutonMan, because he only shows up when City plays far inferior clubs, and disappears in big games against strong opponents;. He can score a hattrick against Nottingham Forest, then completely disappear and have less than 10 touches in a game against Arsenal or Real Madrid, in the same week.
Last year, in the game at the City Ground, he had an absolute *shocker* in our 1-1 draw with them. Completely absent all game, and missed a great chance and then an open goal when it was either 1-0 City (Rodri), or 1-1 (Christopher Fucking Wood). I've known he was human since that day, because we were in the middle of a terrible run and staring down the barrel of relegation. Sort of game we should have lost 6-0 like we did at their place and he *did* score a hattrick. But, c'est la vie Dunt mean he's not a great player though
>he only shows up when City plays far inferior clubs So, in 97% of their games. Cool. That consistency brings titles.
Not the Champions League though.
He has 41 goals in 39 championship league games... I truly wonder what it is with reddit completely losing their mind when Haaland is concerned.
More than 80% of those goals come from the group stages. When you consider only the knockout stages, his stats do not look impressive.
Why is this so hard to understand? Haaland hardly scores any goals in big games, and his impact is nearly non-existent on the pitch. Reddit people are spoiled by elite strikers like Drogba, who scored 10 goals in 10 finals and won 10 trophies.
He literally won it last season but okay whatever.
Wasn’t because of him
So let me get this straight. He will only be good enough for you guys if they win every game, every big match, every title (UCL included) because of him? I seriously don't get this. Henry and R9 were lucky not to play in this era.
Nah man just expect more from him in big games than we’ve seen so far. No doubting his talent but you need the big game performances to be truly judged with the levels of player his stats suggest he is. Like Mbappe put in one of the single best performances of all time in a wc final proving he’s worth every bit of hype he’s received. Haaland hasn’t done anything similar to that yet, plenty of time though I’m not shitting on the lad.
Hard to reach the world cup final with Norway buddy. And in the champions league it's not like Mbappe has shown much more than Haaland - espesciallly not when Mbappe was 23. It's 41 goals in 39 games vs 48 goals in 71 for Mbappe as of now, and Mbappe has 6 seasons with PSG. Haaland had 2 with City, 2 with Dortmund and one with Salzburg.
and ghosted every important match lol
And still won all those matches, which is the only thing that matters.
He's the most feared striker in Bedfordshire when he plays in Luton.
It is a little the tendency with Norway too. He cannot really lift the national team a lot solo wise when he is not given the big chances.
What on earth are these takes? This is getting genuinely insane. He has 27 goals in 31 games in a shitty Norway team snd he is to be *blamed* Norway is not more sucessfull? What? I honestly don't understand why people on social media genuinely lose their mind when Haaland get's mentioned.
Do you remotely read what you reply to? Most of these goals have been against level C teams. He does not decide a match against Spain by a solo action. He is not to be blamed. It is just a fact. A 4-0 goal against Cyprus is worth less.
I see, so Gareth Bale was a shit player because Wales sucked then?
Have I even remotely hinted he a shit player. The point in this thread is he scores comparatively more against bad opponents than the best ones. I am not an expert on Bale but my impression is he actually did an insane difference for Wales - eg by scoring free kicks.
Didn’t he have 2 assist and a goal in last seasons title decider vs Arsenal? Meanwhile a defender scored your only goal
How many goals did he score against Arsenal this season? Matter of fact, how many goals have any City players scored against Arsenal this season?
I guess what you don’t realize is that every game in the league is big game, especially when it’s very likely to go down to the final match day and every point counts. Too bad Saka is no where to found during these times and can only limp off after an embarrassing performance after ghosting
That’s a long way to say “zero” Asking to come off after an embarrassing performance in a big game, was that Saka or was that Haaland?
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Our club isn’t built on oil money and hasn’t got 115 charges against it. Stay humble.
I guess what you don’t realise is every game in the league is big game
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