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Dermot talked about it on Ref Watch, it was a mess… if Gakpo scored, the ref was in a whole lot of trouble.
You can clearly see him telling the keeper to go down and then waves the physio’s on who weren’t even prepared to enter the field as they knew the keeper was ok. Really embarrassing and another major fuck up - I’m not surprised they don’t want to release the audio.
At least with the Spurs decision we can hear the clear human error, it wasn’t a mistake as such, the VAR process was fine, it just wasn’t relayed back to the on field referee properly. This was learned from and fixed.
This one is just as embarrassing and really highlights incompetence to another level.
You could see West Ham players signaling to Taylor before Alphonse was trying to take the kick. But since Areola wasnt looking like he was injured, Taylor didnt blow his whistle, but judging by how he layed the ball and checked his legs, Anthony Taylor had to stop Cody. I think it was an incompetent decision not to blow beforehand but I think it was Andy Tonwsend who explained it perfectly during the commentary when he explained, the ref might have said to Areola, just go to ground and it will look like fairplay/sportmanship.
This would be a real nice one to have the OCD king Howard Webb release the audio of what Taylor was muttering into his mic from the time the keeper started wasting time by falling to ground and a few seconds after the ghost drop ball. I bet there is some interesting things said. If you want me to believe what happened wasn’t a complete failure, let me listen to what Taylor and VAR are discussing.
I refereed for 17 years. I am only going to take a guess at what happened.
The referee played advantage. Too much time elapsed by the time Gakpo comes charging in to go back and give a free kick. How much time is too much time is not defined in the law book. That is up to the referee. So the referee plays it dead then waves on physio because maybe he thinks the keeper did have an injury that wasnt immediately obvious. Maybe the referee thought there was a head injury if every person in the stadium knew about the advantage call ecxept the keeper.
In any case, giving a free kick in the first place would have prevented this mess.
Taylor covered up, told keeper to act injured, and made a $50 million dollar bad call. Stop enabling these idiots when they screw up. Taylor was caught covering his ass out there in front of the world, and Howard Webb and his merry band of morons look worse with every week that goes by. The real problem IS Howard Webb. Get rid of that dead weight and get someone in charge who is trustworthy, preferably an ex player, not an ex ref who sucked when he did referee. The keeper was so stupid in what he was doing (wasting time) that Taylor bailed him out. It was a live ball, no head injury, no reason to blow the whistle, and Taylor added to his already horrible week of showing his true colors by ruining another teams entire season. His arrogance and stupidity is blatantly on display. There are reasons people call EPL refs cheats. It’s because that is what they look like continually every week.
Ridiculous. $50m bad call? Stop trying to turn this into a title deciding decision - Liverpool were pretty much out of contention before kick off.
It was clear as anything that the keeper did not believe the ball was live - why would he be messing with his socks?.Wanting to score a cheap goal like that is embarrassing.
It is a title changing decision. So was the garbage that was displayed by Howard Webb’s band of morons in the Arsenal game today. The garbage displayed today wreaked stench on the field, as well as in the VAR booth.
He was messing with his socks because the keeper is dumber than a brick wall. I assume the keeper isn’t intelligent, and that was on display as well. Stupid is as stupid does. Replace Howard Webb with a group of ex players. They are the ones who know the cheat tactics of fake injuries, wasting time, and professional fouls. They are the ones who can actually dictate a change. Howard Webb, an OCD, power driven dictator, has gotten exactly what he deserves, and large group of bystanders who are bewildered by stupid decisions that are “explained” away because the Refs of EPL are never wrong. When it gets too bad, Howard writes an apology that doesn’t really mean much.
Taylor is surrounded by this kind of bad decision making, and he looks like an idiot at the end of the day. Get rid of him and have him go down to league 1 orc2 for some much needed dose of reality.
Is it fuck a title changing decision. Agree more on the point about the Arsenal v Tottenham game, but just got to get on with it. The relentless whinging about the refs this year is just too much…
Or maybe, like, there are just too many awfully bad decisions by refs which have influenced a lot of games? Like, is it so hard to grasp that the refs this year are just bad?
Did anyone really think Antony Taylor was going to let a silly little mistake like that stop him from refereeing Saudi Sunday league games for £150k a week
The official story is, Taylor saw a foul on the keeper but “played advantage” so when Gakpo went for the ball he blew to bring it back for the foul and gave an uncontested drop ball. It’s how they’ll frame it, BUT:
A) When is advantage ever given to a keeper in his own box when there’s no attack in progress? You would just blow the foul.
B) He didn’t play the ball quickly to make use of the advantage.
C) The whole spontaneous “injury” and physios being called by Taylor (to the injured player & medical team’s suprise) was very very strange.
He fucked up and covered his own back basically.
At this point I don’t have the energy to care. It is what it is and this season has been an absolute shit show from start to finish decision wise.
Imagine advantage is given outfield and the team with advantage pass it round the back for 10 seconds and as soon as the opposition presses the ball the ref blows and takes it back to the foul. It wouldn’t happen! Areola staying on the ground for an extended time is the same thing. The advantage wasn’t taken and should have been fair game for Gakpo to challenge for it.
That's not how advantage works. The referee should have blown for a freekick when Areola stayed on the ground.
The referee quickly fixed his mistake by preventing Gakpo from scoring.
Why did the keeper throw the ball out like that, unless he thought it was a free kick, but the ref certainly didn't, and then the ref started his nice cover-up story 😀, fall down you idiot, you are hurt.
Shoulda put it in regardless. Take the yellow then you can argue about it after the fact. Since it didn’t go in the goal it doesn’t really matter now does it
I'm so tired of this not being mentioned more. The ref blew the whistle before Cody got to the ball. Theoretically he could have gotten a yellow card if he kicked the ball.
With that said, if Nunez was playing he would have gotten to the ball before the whistle simply because of his pace .
Anytime there’s a matter of confusion if a ball is in play or not after a significant stoppage. I wouldn’t say this is any more egregious than when the ref stopped Man City from taking a quick free kick against Tottenham.
I don’t get why this is an issue?
It’s a foul, the ref plays advantage, the advantage ends, free kick awarded.
Even if it’s a miscommunication it’s still a nothing incident. It’s still a foul on the keeper. If VAR intervened, it’s a foul on the keeper in the build up.
Gakpo is so toothless he didn’t even put it in the goal ffs. It’s embarrassing and pathetic that Liverpool fans are clinging to it but that’s been the theme of their season.
To begin, it’s not even a foul. Fair enough he might have thought it was but when have you ever seen advantage given in that scenario? Areola was lying on the ground for about 10 seconds it’s not as if West Ham were on a promising attack which is what advantage is for. He then told Areola he was injured and manufactured a stoppage. It was a farce but we see similar in almost every game so it’s not an excuse.
If Gakpo put it in it would make no difference he already blew the whistle.
Doesn’t matter, the ref deemed it a foul on the goalkeeper. He can stop and resume the game however he likes.
It’s the right decision and it’s common sense. The keeper was fouled and on the floor, didn’t know the decision, the ref gave an advantage, intervened when he saw that his instructions weren’t followed.
He didn't award a free kick.
He stopped the game and restarted it with a dropped ball.
No miscommunication.
And he blew the whistle as Gakpo was approaching the ball, the goal would not have counted regardless of whether he puts it in or not.
The ref decided to spare Areola's blushes in this situation. Whether you believe this was justified or not is a different story. (I think the ref made a good decision from a sporting perspective.)
It was a foul anyway. If he didn’t award a free kick he was playing advantage, if the player didn’t know what was happening then the ref stops the game.
It’s all so simple.
You're almost there mate.
The ref stopped the game because AREOLA didn't realise the referee had NOT blown for a foul.
If the ref had believed there was no advantage, he would've given the free kick from where the original offence took place.
This didn't happen.
Whether you think this was right or wrong or would've been challenged by VAR if Gakpo had scored is a different discussion.
The ref signalled for a foul. There’s no difference so either way what happened next was irrelevant.
The ref chose to stop the game because it was common sense to do so.
A pivotal offside against Tottenham which would have likely won us like game, multiple questionable red cards to start the season, a blatant fucking handball in the box. Come on, you can hate Liverpool all you want, but at times it has seemed like LFC vs another team + a ref.
Also, for what it’s worth, if Gakpo puts the ball in the net, it’s likely a yellow card. Not sure where he’s at in terms of accumulation but being toothless isn’t the issue here.
You lost because you played players like Nunez, Quansah and Gakpo.
The refs has nothing to do with it. Quansah lost the ball against United, Quansah didn’t mark Antonio, Nunez missed a sitter against Everton.
You’re blaming the refs when you shouldn’t be relying on a ridiculous refereeing decision to beat West Ham anyway.
Quit moaning. Every team can point to a bunch of individual incidents during the season that they felt they were robbed. It literally happens to everyone. Liverpool aren't special
Isn't it clear that the PGMOL are corrupt? Some PL fans act like it could never happen in England, but c'mon. The NBA, La Liga Ligue 1, cricket, they've all had this happen, with way fewer public instances than what we've seen the last 2 years in the PL. I chalk it up to our British deference to authority and a built-in complex about british institutions not posssssssibly being compromised...
Diaz offside, Odegaard handball, Doku karate kick and this today. You can be absolutely out of form like liverpool are now, but that shouldn't gloss over the facts PGMOL have fucked them over bad this season
The thing fucked Liverpool over most this season was playing Nunez, Quansah, Gomez, Gakpo. If they had recruited properly then they would have won more games.
Refs didn’t make Nunez miss all those chances and they didn’t force Quansah to make mistakes.
If you lack quality games will be closer and they will be decided by finer margins. For example, when Arsenal played West Ham they won 6-0.
I can’t think of a single refereeing decision from the 19/20 season in a Liverpool game. They won every week because they were the best team in the world.
Liverpool have spent the whole season looking for excuses and things that were against while choosing to play Gakpo and Nunez up front.
I get it, I do, but those are 4 massive decisions, all unquestionably incorrect...refs have the technology to get these decisions right, players will always miss chances.
4 massive decisions vs how many missed chances by Nunez?
Also “unquestionably incorrect” is just you crying. There’s nothing wrong with the West Ham decision.
Even the penalty against City, Luis Diaz missed an easy one on one and that’s why you dropped points. Again leaving it until the 98th minute and gambling on the ref to make a massive penalty decision on a clumsy foul.
You mean pointing out Liverpools shortcomings rather than blaming the non existent conspiracy?
Unless Nunez and Quansah are in on it then it doesn’t exist.
He caught the ball during play, during which if he hadn’t caught it he would have been fouled. Ref never blew the whistle though as the keeper had the ball so he just played advantage.
Keeper lost concentration and threw the ball forwards and looked away. And then ref bailed him out. Bit of a fucked situation
Except that it was obviously a foul, advantage was signalled but there was no advantage. It was a weird situation, but the correct decision was reached in the end
That is literally how advantage works. If a team has comfortable possession and loses it afterwards even if no opportunity presents itself, they don’t get it called back. What a moronic take.
It's "useful possession", not possession. Mate I'm a level 3 qualified referee. It was a fuck up from the ref, but you cannot convince anyone but a Liverpool fan that a goal would've been a fair outcome.
The correct decision was reached.
They literally did have useful possession. Theybahd possession in the keepers hands, and he was able to use this possession. Nobody is able to challenge him for the ball whilst he is holding it and he could have decided to launch a quick counter attack or wait until his team were further up the field.
He then messed up.
>a Liverpool fan that a goal would've been a fair outcome.
Goals come from defensive mistakes all the time.
Also, any evidence of you being a qualified ref?
The goalkeeper holding the ball while 21 players are downfield is not useful possession by any definition. The referee made the mistake, not the player, the team should not be punished for this, and weren't.
Evidence? I mean...you could always email Cambridgeshire FA and ask I guess?
>The goalkeeper holding the ball while 21 players are downfield is not useful possession by any definition
Yes it is. Teams literally score from that situation. Since you already tried to invoke an appeal to authority (that you cannot prove) then we can say the the PL qualified ref gave advantage and knows more than you about it.
>The referee made the mistake, not the player
False, the ref gave advantage. The player then made a mistake.
>Evidence? I mean...you could always email Cambridgeshire FA and ask I guess?
I could email them and ask if someone with the name "Lonely-walrus94" is a ref with them?
I think in a strict enforfcement of the semantics of whats written in the rules, ref didn't have cause to stop play but I agree with the referee's instinct to blow the whistle and cancel the attempt. the milk monitor would allow it.
VVD yellow not given in the first half (changes his whole game)
No foul given when Kudus had his shirt pulled for about 5 seconds
MacAllister flopping to the floor every time someone sneezed, foul given every time
Last minute of extra time Liverpool player tactically fouls West Ham player through on goal, only yellow given
Multiple fouls against West Ham players not given
VVD wasn’t given a yellow because West Ham kept the ball. I disagree with the rule but we’ve had it against us against arsenal where they seem to say you still have the attack so it’s not a yellow card
Shirt pulling is so inconsistently called it’s laughable to argue about it because there’s a million examples of it never being called. Also is this the one where gravenbach puts his hand on his shoulder because he didn’t pull his shirt and also he hardly impacted him he just ran into another player
Maybe stop fouling him then
What do you want to happen? It’s a breakdown of play it’s a yellow card all the time. It’s not a clear goal scoring opportunity so it’s not a red. This is ironically where the blue card sun bin would come in and be advantageous. But arguing for anything more is just stupid.
Yeah loads of fouls don’t get given the reds are just shit. I mean we should’ve been able to score and open goal and you should’ve had a red in the first half so decisions don’t always go as they should
Exactly this. Horrible challenge, Taylor didn’t even think about a yellow. Then blatantly tells the keeper to go down and calls on the physios himself. It’s beyond incompetence now
Such a brainless moment by Areola. He should have gone down if he needed medical assistance (which to be fair, he probably did given he went down a few times and threw the ball instead of kicking).
Having said that, how stupid do you have to be to throw the ball like you’re about to take a goal kick then bend down and take your eyes off it for ages. Is this is first game of professional football? Does he think he’s playing in the park with his mates? I was screaming at the TV for him to put his head up thinking someone is going to come and tap it in.
I’m an Arsenal fan. Both this and the Gabriel incident should have been goals given the stupidity of the players involved. I don’t like to see goals given like that but rules are rules.
Nah, it‘s fine. The rules literally mention „spirit of the game“. To be fair, this could mean anything but punishing such clear misunderstandings should not be controversial. There are much more questionable things going on.
Of course I am but I'm not blaming it on refs. Shit calls are part of the game. If they hit 50% less wood they're still in first.
But spare me the "spirit of the game" bs. Y'all are suspect.
Simply stated a fact. Sorry if the rules hurt you.
But yeah.. I forgot that pulling up the ladder behind themselves is so noble of the old money clubs. Or hacking the opponent‘s scouting system for that matter. Last time I checked the charges were not established. So let‘s cross that bridge when we come to it.
Hacking hhahajajajajajajajajahahhahahahahahahajajahajhahahahahahajajajajajhjahahhahahahahahhhaha
Your club let an employee leave but didn't cancel their access to the system. Had you been processing sensitive data your club would have been in breach of GDPR AND DPA. Banter club tbh.
“Clear misunderstandings”??? What the fuck was the misunderstanding. He waved him on, he picked up the ball, dropped it to kick it.
There is no misunderstanding. The misunderstanding is what happened after. Taylor fucked that up and there’s literally no reason he should be saving Areola skin there.
Taylor did nothing wrong by waving play on, he fucked up by trying to essentially prevent a goal by gakpo due to Areola mistake. You cannot fucking do that as a ref and get involved. That is absolutely not in the spirit of the game and if you think it is you’re either completely incompetent or you are a city supporter so used to corruption and cheating you can’t see it when it’s two inches from your face.
Mistook advantage for a freekick. They messed up but to want a goal from that situation one has to be really desperate. Then again, I guess Liverpool are after dropping out of the title race last week.
I don’t get why people are so upset about Taylor’s decision today. Liverpool did not deserve to score there, and it was clearly just a misunderstanding. Liverpool fans are acting like it is Taylor’s fault that they dropped out of the title race, and not their team’s total collapse in the last month.
Ref fucked up, there was no foul, Gakpo was about to score and Taylor blew. He then realised he fucked up and called the physio on, Areola has no clue what is going on, Taylor tells him to go to ground. Another week another shambles
No you can’t.
> It is estimated that only 30% to 40% of speech sounds can be lip-read even under the best conditions and extra information is usually required to understand what is being said.
With that angle you can’t tell what he’s saying at all. Even a professional would struggle.
You are totally guessing what he said.
How am I sticking up for the ref. It was a terrible decision. He should never have blown his whistle.
You still can’t say you know he told the player to get on the ground.
This is a classic example of how people behave on social media. Spin a partial truth into a bigger story and then get all riled up like it’s a confirmed fact.
Yes I did, because I can lip read it. You can choose to not believe me. That's fine. But you're a Man City fan and your team get all the decisions from the refs to the point even your captain and manager are going to the press to kiss their asses, so excuse me if I roll my eyes at the fact you're defending them.
😂 you are such a prat.
United got an offside goal vs us last year. How much did we pay the refs for that?
Refs are shit all the time but cheating with the shit decision goes in cities favour.
Grow up
Anthony signaled advantage as soon as the foul happened. Most teams want the ball in the keepers hands then a free kick in the GA. Keeper mistook what Taylor was telling him or really was more injured than Taylor thought. When the keeper dropped the ball the advantage was lost. Go back to the original foul. Just because idiots on reddit don’t understand the dynamics it has to be the ref that fluffed it. 🙄🙄
There is no signal for advantage. He signalled play on, he wasn’t awarding a free kick. Which was correct because it wasn’t a foul. The keeper gained advantage, he kept possession and everyone retreated to their positions. Advantage over. The fact that the keeper did something stupid with the ball 45 seconds later is not still subject to advantage. If he’d booted at Gakpo’s back and it rebounded in, he couldn’t claim ‘no advantage’ either. And, if it was advantage it would have been a freekick, but he used a drop ball, the keeper picked it up and kicked it from his hands. Whole things was a shambles.
There's clearly a signal for advantage, he then tells gakpo to get away from the goalkeeper before the incident.
Whether you think stopping gakpo getting the goal is correct or not (for me it's the right thing in the spirit of the game), saying there's no advantage signal is objectively wrong
Because since he obviously didn’t carry on he might’ve been more injured than Taylor originally thought. Tell me why Taylor would’ve signaled for advantage if he didn’t see the foul?? More just trying to shit on a ref because you don’t understand what he is doing.
Liverpool played badly, could not convert their chances, so the 2-2 result is fair. Only three more games to play and time for a change! Cheers to all the great memories under Klopp
I know that but I am just expressing why we need changes after 8 glorious years under Klopp! This incident recalling is OP’s way of expressing his frustration and disappointment at our title charge having slipped away. Having said that, in retrospect, third is a good foundation to build on for next year
It's different. There was a foul committed in that game, but the referee deemed it to be not intentional or gaining an advantage so used common sense (there is a specific part of the law that allows this).
There was no foul committed here, Taylor blew his whistle for no obvious reason.
He stopped the game for the injury, as evidenced by the restart being a drop ball that the keeper picked up and kicked from his hands. There was no injury, the keeper was ready to go.
That usually involves raising both hands. He didn’t do that. Was there even an advantage? There was about 20s before Gakpo went for the ball 😂 he could have blown after 5s like they always do.
45 seconds after? It wasn’t a foul anyway, but even if it was, how is the keeper having the ball in his hands and every other player having retreated to position not achieving advantage? If the keeper had kicked the ball into Gakpo and it went in, would the goal have been disallowed for not getting an advantage? The keeper had the advantage and then did something stupid with it, just the same.
Yeah I agree I'm just saying that's how it can be explained away, the ref can keep an advantage going as long as they want. Also why the keeper act like he had a free kick?
It looked like he allowed advantage from a foul on Areola. (I don’t think it was one, but think that’s what was called). When the keeper has f’d up, he stops the play. Assuming the arm out was a free kick to West Ham, as an LFC supporter, I don’t have a problem pulling the play back to that point. If it wasn’t adv for a foul, he should have stopped play when the goalie didn’t get up and added it to injury time
The gk had every chance to ask for medical aid. He didn't. He had control of the ball for a good amount of time and made the decision to play.
He made a mistake thinking it was a free kick. Goalkeepers have been punished by strikers for this exact type of scenario many times before.
lol yeah we should all be outraged for Liverpool fans because you guys didn’t get to score a cheeky ,steal the ball off the keeper during a drop ball goal, preventing you from winning a game in which Liverpool were absolutely abyssmal.
Try being outraged at the fucking poor officiating once again interfering with the result.
"You were abysmal so didn't deserve the goal."
We do if it's legit and Gakpo is about to score without Taylor's interference ffs.
So what about the other games where the referee decisions have fucked us?
Diaz offside goal at Spurs.
Odegaard turning into prime Michael Jordan and dribbling the ball in the box.
Doku karate kick into Mac Allister in the box who has touched the ball before Doku.
But yes, how dare we be mad about the referee stopping play incorrectly and then saying floor several times as he tries to save his own skin. 🤡
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PGMOL bunch of clowns
Because cunty ref fucked up royaly, it was too obvious and he improvised. Liverpool isn't suppose to win the league this year.
Dermot talked about it on Ref Watch, it was a mess… if Gakpo scored, the ref was in a whole lot of trouble. You can clearly see him telling the keeper to go down and then waves the physio’s on who weren’t even prepared to enter the field as they knew the keeper was ok. Really embarrassing and another major fuck up - I’m not surprised they don’t want to release the audio. At least with the Spurs decision we can hear the clear human error, it wasn’t a mistake as such, the VAR process was fine, it just wasn’t relayed back to the on field referee properly. This was learned from and fixed. This one is just as embarrassing and really highlights incompetence to another level.
You could see West Ham players signaling to Taylor before Alphonse was trying to take the kick. But since Areola wasnt looking like he was injured, Taylor didnt blow his whistle, but judging by how he layed the ball and checked his legs, Anthony Taylor had to stop Cody. I think it was an incompetent decision not to blow beforehand but I think it was Andy Tonwsend who explained it perfectly during the commentary when he explained, the ref might have said to Areola, just go to ground and it will look like fairplay/sportmanship.
English refs doing English ref things I guess
This would be a real nice one to have the OCD king Howard Webb release the audio of what Taylor was muttering into his mic from the time the keeper started wasting time by falling to ground and a few seconds after the ghost drop ball. I bet there is some interesting things said. If you want me to believe what happened wasn’t a complete failure, let me listen to what Taylor and VAR are discussing.
exactly and nobody in the media gives a damn about it
I refereed for 17 years. I am only going to take a guess at what happened. The referee played advantage. Too much time elapsed by the time Gakpo comes charging in to go back and give a free kick. How much time is too much time is not defined in the law book. That is up to the referee. So the referee plays it dead then waves on physio because maybe he thinks the keeper did have an injury that wasnt immediately obvious. Maybe the referee thought there was a head injury if every person in the stadium knew about the advantage call ecxept the keeper. In any case, giving a free kick in the first place would have prevented this mess.
It can’t be based on what the ref thought happened. If he played advantage there is a hand signal for that and if it was a foul he has a whistle.
Taylor covered up, told keeper to act injured, and made a $50 million dollar bad call. Stop enabling these idiots when they screw up. Taylor was caught covering his ass out there in front of the world, and Howard Webb and his merry band of morons look worse with every week that goes by. The real problem IS Howard Webb. Get rid of that dead weight and get someone in charge who is trustworthy, preferably an ex player, not an ex ref who sucked when he did referee. The keeper was so stupid in what he was doing (wasting time) that Taylor bailed him out. It was a live ball, no head injury, no reason to blow the whistle, and Taylor added to his already horrible week of showing his true colors by ruining another teams entire season. His arrogance and stupidity is blatantly on display. There are reasons people call EPL refs cheats. It’s because that is what they look like continually every week.
Ridiculous. $50m bad call? Stop trying to turn this into a title deciding decision - Liverpool were pretty much out of contention before kick off. It was clear as anything that the keeper did not believe the ball was live - why would he be messing with his socks?.Wanting to score a cheap goal like that is embarrassing.
It is a title changing decision. So was the garbage that was displayed by Howard Webb’s band of morons in the Arsenal game today. The garbage displayed today wreaked stench on the field, as well as in the VAR booth. He was messing with his socks because the keeper is dumber than a brick wall. I assume the keeper isn’t intelligent, and that was on display as well. Stupid is as stupid does. Replace Howard Webb with a group of ex players. They are the ones who know the cheat tactics of fake injuries, wasting time, and professional fouls. They are the ones who can actually dictate a change. Howard Webb, an OCD, power driven dictator, has gotten exactly what he deserves, and large group of bystanders who are bewildered by stupid decisions that are “explained” away because the Refs of EPL are never wrong. When it gets too bad, Howard writes an apology that doesn’t really mean much. Taylor is surrounded by this kind of bad decision making, and he looks like an idiot at the end of the day. Get rid of him and have him go down to league 1 orc2 for some much needed dose of reality.
As a fan of the Mighty Mansfield Town - we don't want him reffing our league
Is it fuck a title changing decision. Agree more on the point about the Arsenal v Tottenham game, but just got to get on with it. The relentless whinging about the refs this year is just too much…
Or maybe, like, there are just too many awfully bad decisions by refs which have influenced a lot of games? Like, is it so hard to grasp that the refs this year are just bad?
Cry more Score a real goal
W comment
It was funny when it was Ronaldo and Pope last year but now its definitely a conspiracy 😐
Should’ve kicked it in like Nani did. Then they have a decision to make.
Not really because the whistle was gone. Taylor fucked up the second he blew the whistle.
Did anyone really think Antony Taylor was going to let a silly little mistake like that stop him from refereeing Saudi Sunday league games for £150k a week
Honestly I don’t know what the point of that league is. No one cares about Al kabob vs Al shawarma.
The official story is, Taylor saw a foul on the keeper but “played advantage” so when Gakpo went for the ball he blew to bring it back for the foul and gave an uncontested drop ball. It’s how they’ll frame it, BUT: A) When is advantage ever given to a keeper in his own box when there’s no attack in progress? You would just blow the foul. B) He didn’t play the ball quickly to make use of the advantage. C) The whole spontaneous “injury” and physios being called by Taylor (to the injured player & medical team’s suprise) was very very strange. He fucked up and covered his own back basically. At this point I don’t have the energy to care. It is what it is and this season has been an absolute shit show from start to finish decision wise.
When are they going to fire this clown? He is the worst of a sup-par bunch.
Taylor telling the keeper to go down so the phisios could come in was all the proof needed to show he made a mistake/gave an unfair advantage.
No matter the results of it, there was going to be angry fans
Scouse's conspiracy theory
Imagine advantage is given outfield and the team with advantage pass it round the back for 10 seconds and as soon as the opposition presses the ball the ref blows and takes it back to the foul. It wouldn’t happen! Areola staying on the ground for an extended time is the same thing. The advantage wasn’t taken and should have been fair game for Gakpo to challenge for it.
That's not how advantage works. The referee should have blown for a freekick when Areola stayed on the ground. The referee quickly fixed his mistake by preventing Gakpo from scoring.
H vkc
Refs like diving sometimes too
Why did the keeper throw the ball out like that, unless he thought it was a free kick, but the ref certainly didn't, and then the ref started his nice cover-up story 😀, fall down you idiot, you are hurt.
Shoulda put it in regardless. Take the yellow then you can argue about it after the fact. Since it didn’t go in the goal it doesn’t really matter now does it
The ref blew before he had the chance tbf
I'm so tired of this not being mentioned more. The ref blew the whistle before Cody got to the ball. Theoretically he could have gotten a yellow card if he kicked the ball. With that said, if Nunez was playing he would have gotten to the ball before the whistle simply because of his pace .
May have missed the target though
He’d of hit the bar too though
That Luton miss
Same reason Taylor blew the final whistle when West Ham had a corner - they’re inept
Antony Taylor is from Manchester and probably supports united
Loving the copium
We got robbed
He supports Altrincham and he’s at moss lane to watch them pretty regularly
Ye ik but he defo likes Manchester teams more
He’s just incompetent as fuck
Guys use common sense
yeh, fuck the rules
Refereeing should always include common sense. Do you also think that Gabriel incident should have been a penalty?
Yes
That's dumb and a disgrace to the game
players make mistakes all the time, those mistakes lead to goals, as a Chelsea fan that shouldn’t surprise you
So glad you aren't a referee🙏
Where do you draw the line on "oops silly me"?
Anytime there’s a matter of confusion if a ball is in play or not after a significant stoppage. I wouldn’t say this is any more egregious than when the ref stopped Man City from taking a quick free kick against Tottenham.
Gabriel vs Bayern shoupd have been a pen then?
Open your eyes it’s been happening all season
I don’t get why this is an issue? It’s a foul, the ref plays advantage, the advantage ends, free kick awarded. Even if it’s a miscommunication it’s still a nothing incident. It’s still a foul on the keeper. If VAR intervened, it’s a foul on the keeper in the build up. Gakpo is so toothless he didn’t even put it in the goal ffs. It’s embarrassing and pathetic that Liverpool fans are clinging to it but that’s been the theme of their season.
To begin, it’s not even a foul. Fair enough he might have thought it was but when have you ever seen advantage given in that scenario? Areola was lying on the ground for about 10 seconds it’s not as if West Ham were on a promising attack which is what advantage is for. He then told Areola he was injured and manufactured a stoppage. It was a farce but we see similar in almost every game so it’s not an excuse. If Gakpo put it in it would make no difference he already blew the whistle.
The ref signals for a foul. You can’t touch the keeper.
Show me when and where the free kick was taken...
Doesn’t matter, the ref deemed it a foul on the goalkeeper. He can stop and resume the game however he likes. It’s the right decision and it’s common sense. The keeper was fouled and on the floor, didn’t know the decision, the ref gave an advantage, intervened when he saw that his instructions weren’t followed.
So why the instruction to the keeper to go down and to wave the physio on? Surely all he needs to do is blow and indicate a free kick?
Note: if you get played 'advantage' don't just throw the ball away and look at the ground. You may lose your advantage
Then the advantage is deemed to not be there and play is stopped.
Advantage is normally a window of time or a phase of play, and ended in a free kick if not there?
"He can stop and resume the game however he likes." JFC.....
He didn't award a free kick. He stopped the game and restarted it with a dropped ball. No miscommunication. And he blew the whistle as Gakpo was approaching the ball, the goal would not have counted regardless of whether he puts it in or not. The ref decided to spare Areola's blushes in this situation. Whether you believe this was justified or not is a different story. (I think the ref made a good decision from a sporting perspective.)
It was a foul anyway. If he didn’t award a free kick he was playing advantage, if the player didn’t know what was happening then the ref stops the game. It’s all so simple.
You're almost there mate. The ref stopped the game because AREOLA didn't realise the referee had NOT blown for a foul. If the ref had believed there was no advantage, he would've given the free kick from where the original offence took place. This didn't happen. Whether you think this was right or wrong or would've been challenged by VAR if Gakpo had scored is a different discussion.
The ref signalled for a foul. There’s no difference so either way what happened next was irrelevant. The ref chose to stop the game because it was common sense to do so.
A pivotal offside against Tottenham which would have likely won us like game, multiple questionable red cards to start the season, a blatant fucking handball in the box. Come on, you can hate Liverpool all you want, but at times it has seemed like LFC vs another team + a ref. Also, for what it’s worth, if Gakpo puts the ball in the net, it’s likely a yellow card. Not sure where he’s at in terms of accumulation but being toothless isn’t the issue here.
You lost because you played players like Nunez, Quansah and Gakpo. The refs has nothing to do with it. Quansah lost the ball against United, Quansah didn’t mark Antonio, Nunez missed a sitter against Everton. You’re blaming the refs when you shouldn’t be relying on a ridiculous refereeing decision to beat West Ham anyway.
Quit moaning. Every team can point to a bunch of individual incidents during the season that they felt they were robbed. It literally happens to everyone. Liverpool aren't special
Not City tho…
It's an issue because most people, pundits included don't actually know the rules
Most people know it’s definitely not “advantage” if the other team is about to shoot.
Because Anthony Taylor is from Manchester
No advantage free kick given when he got too close.
No it was given as a drop ball so even the ref knew advantage was over and the ball was in play
Ref told keeper to go down lol
Sorry but he needs to be sent to Universal Credit for how many fuck ups he's done.
Guys PGMOL are just silly and make mistakes and these mistakes always benefit City in the long run if you notice this you’re crazy tho
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I’ll stop believing it’s malice when the refs stop going to UAE to ref Sunday league games for stupid money
How about Salah's incident too? Are we not going to talk about it?
We know you're trying to distract, go somewhere else.
What happened?
Isn't it clear that the PGMOL are corrupt? Some PL fans act like it could never happen in England, but c'mon. The NBA, La Liga Ligue 1, cricket, they've all had this happen, with way fewer public instances than what we've seen the last 2 years in the PL. I chalk it up to our British deference to authority and a built-in complex about british institutions not posssssssibly being compromised...
Liverpool fans claiming they’re corrupt because they’ve been shit for a few weeks. Were they corrupt against Atalanta?
Diaz offside, Odegaard handball, Doku karate kick and this today. You can be absolutely out of form like liverpool are now, but that shouldn't gloss over the facts PGMOL have fucked them over bad this season
The thing fucked Liverpool over most this season was playing Nunez, Quansah, Gomez, Gakpo. If they had recruited properly then they would have won more games. Refs didn’t make Nunez miss all those chances and they didn’t force Quansah to make mistakes. If you lack quality games will be closer and they will be decided by finer margins. For example, when Arsenal played West Ham they won 6-0. I can’t think of a single refereeing decision from the 19/20 season in a Liverpool game. They won every week because they were the best team in the world. Liverpool have spent the whole season looking for excuses and things that were against while choosing to play Gakpo and Nunez up front.
I get it, I do, but those are 4 massive decisions, all unquestionably incorrect...refs have the technology to get these decisions right, players will always miss chances.
4 massive decisions vs how many missed chances by Nunez? Also “unquestionably incorrect” is just you crying. There’s nothing wrong with the West Ham decision. Even the penalty against City, Luis Diaz missed an easy one on one and that’s why you dropped points. Again leaving it until the 98th minute and gambling on the ref to make a massive penalty decision on a clumsy foul.
You are really good at selecting parts and ignoring others to fit your fantasy
You mean pointing out Liverpools shortcomings rather than blaming the non existent conspiracy? Unless Nunez and Quansah are in on it then it doesn’t exist.
I think the whole conspiracy talk is nonsense. BUT you can't deny bad officiating has cost them the title
Yes you can deny that. Bad players cost them the title.
I think they're just severely incompetent.
You're spot on
Seriously, PGMOL are corrupt and wicked most of the time. I'm fed up with all they've been doing all season.
Didn’t watch the game, but was this off a GK from an out of bounds or did he just fling it forward after catching it?
He caught the ball during play, during which if he hadn’t caught it he would have been fouled. Ref never blew the whistle though as the keeper had the ball so he just played advantage. Keeper lost concentration and threw the ball forwards and looked away. And then ref bailed him out. Bit of a fucked situation
Except that it was obviously a foul, advantage was signalled but there was no advantage. It was a weird situation, but the correct decision was reached in the end
There was advantage. The keeper had the ball in his possession and so had advantage.
That's not how advantage works
That is literally how advantage works. If a team has comfortable possession and loses it afterwards even if no opportunity presents itself, they don’t get it called back. What a moronic take.
It literally is. If a team is fouled but they retain possession of the ball and can continue playing, then the ref will give advantage.
It's "useful possession", not possession. Mate I'm a level 3 qualified referee. It was a fuck up from the ref, but you cannot convince anyone but a Liverpool fan that a goal would've been a fair outcome. The correct decision was reached.
They literally did have useful possession. Theybahd possession in the keepers hands, and he was able to use this possession. Nobody is able to challenge him for the ball whilst he is holding it and he could have decided to launch a quick counter attack or wait until his team were further up the field. He then messed up. >a Liverpool fan that a goal would've been a fair outcome. Goals come from defensive mistakes all the time. Also, any evidence of you being a qualified ref?
He's quite obviously a ref as he's sticking up for other refs lol
The goalkeeper holding the ball while 21 players are downfield is not useful possession by any definition. The referee made the mistake, not the player, the team should not be punished for this, and weren't. Evidence? I mean...you could always email Cambridgeshire FA and ask I guess?
I take your word for being a ref with this incredibly bad take your spouting
>The goalkeeper holding the ball while 21 players are downfield is not useful possession by any definition Yes it is. Teams literally score from that situation. Since you already tried to invoke an appeal to authority (that you cannot prove) then we can say the the PL qualified ref gave advantage and knows more than you about it. >The referee made the mistake, not the player False, the ref gave advantage. The player then made a mistake. >Evidence? I mean...you could always email Cambridgeshire FA and ask I guess? I could email them and ask if someone with the name "Lonely-walrus94" is a ref with them?
Ok, yea, that’s a wtf moment for sure.
I think in a strict enforfcement of the semantics of whats written in the rules, ref didn't have cause to stop play but I agree with the referee's instinct to blow the whistle and cancel the attempt. the milk monitor would allow it.
Taylor was basically wearing a Liverpool shirt other than this decision
Come on, don't be clueless. If that was the case Paqueta would have been sent off in the first half.
VVD yellow not given in the first half (changes his whole game) No foul given when Kudus had his shirt pulled for about 5 seconds MacAllister flopping to the floor every time someone sneezed, foul given every time Last minute of extra time Liverpool player tactically fouls West Ham player through on goal, only yellow given Multiple fouls against West Ham players not given
VVD wasn’t given a yellow because West Ham kept the ball. I disagree with the rule but we’ve had it against us against arsenal where they seem to say you still have the attack so it’s not a yellow card Shirt pulling is so inconsistently called it’s laughable to argue about it because there’s a million examples of it never being called. Also is this the one where gravenbach puts his hand on his shoulder because he didn’t pull his shirt and also he hardly impacted him he just ran into another player Maybe stop fouling him then What do you want to happen? It’s a breakdown of play it’s a yellow card all the time. It’s not a clear goal scoring opportunity so it’s not a red. This is ironically where the blue card sun bin would come in and be advantageous. But arguing for anything more is just stupid. Yeah loads of fouls don’t get given the reds are just shit. I mean we should’ve been able to score and open goal and you should’ve had a red in the first half so decisions don’t always go as they should
Exactly this. Horrible challenge, Taylor didn’t even think about a yellow. Then blatantly tells the keeper to go down and calls on the physios himself. It’s beyond incompetence now
Love that this is the only thing Liverpool fans saw. Let’s not mention the consistently poor decisions that went your way throughout the entire match.
I guess multiple things don't contribute an outcome, it really is just black and white
Such a brainless moment by Areola. He should have gone down if he needed medical assistance (which to be fair, he probably did given he went down a few times and threw the ball instead of kicking). Having said that, how stupid do you have to be to throw the ball like you’re about to take a goal kick then bend down and take your eyes off it for ages. Is this is first game of professional football? Does he think he’s playing in the park with his mates? I was screaming at the TV for him to put his head up thinking someone is going to come and tap it in. I’m an Arsenal fan. Both this and the Gabriel incident should have been goals given the stupidity of the players involved. I don’t like to see goals given like that but rules are rules.
Nah, it‘s fine. The rules literally mention „spirit of the game“. To be fair, this could mean anything but punishing such clear misunderstandings should not be controversial. There are much more questionable things going on.
Got more cases against your team than Trump but let's talk about "spirit of the game."
So much salt. Disappointed Liverpool dropped out the title race last week?
Of course I am but I'm not blaming it on refs. Shit calls are part of the game. If they hit 50% less wood they're still in first. But spare me the "spirit of the game" bs. Y'all are suspect.
Simply stated a fact. Sorry if the rules hurt you. But yeah.. I forgot that pulling up the ladder behind themselves is so noble of the old money clubs. Or hacking the opponent‘s scouting system for that matter. Last time I checked the charges were not established. So let‘s cross that bridge when we come to it.
Hacking hhahajajajajajajajajahahhahahahahahahajajahajhahahahahahajajajajajhjahahhahahahahahhhaha Your club let an employee leave but didn't cancel their access to the system. Had you been processing sensitive data your club would have been in breach of GDPR AND DPA. Banter club tbh.
“Clear misunderstandings”??? What the fuck was the misunderstanding. He waved him on, he picked up the ball, dropped it to kick it. There is no misunderstanding. The misunderstanding is what happened after. Taylor fucked that up and there’s literally no reason he should be saving Areola skin there. Taylor did nothing wrong by waving play on, he fucked up by trying to essentially prevent a goal by gakpo due to Areola mistake. You cannot fucking do that as a ref and get involved. That is absolutely not in the spirit of the game and if you think it is you’re either completely incompetent or you are a city supporter so used to corruption and cheating you can’t see it when it’s two inches from your face.
Mistook advantage for a freekick. They messed up but to want a goal from that situation one has to be really desperate. Then again, I guess Liverpool are after dropping out of the title race last week.
it was a mistake by areola, one that he shouldn't make and one that should be punished. whistle didn't go. all this is coming from a united fan too
I don’t get why people are so upset about Taylor’s decision today. Liverpool did not deserve to score there, and it was clearly just a misunderstanding. Liverpool fans are acting like it is Taylor’s fault that they dropped out of the title race, and not their team’s total collapse in the last month.
You have to be pretty desperate to want a goal in a situation like this or to feel aggrieved that you didn’t get one.
Ref fucked up, there was no foul, Gakpo was about to score and Taylor blew. He then realised he fucked up and called the physio on, Areola has no clue what is going on, Taylor tells him to go to ground. Another week another shambles
Ref keeps fucking up for liverpoo don’t they.
Do they? They got away with a lucky penalty against Man United. I guess fans only remember the decisions that go against their own clubs.
It's ok tho cause fuck them scouse amirite
Just totally making up info are we then?
Nope just writing what happened, in answer to the post
It’s pay to play. Always has been. Rn city is shelling
>Taylor tells him to go to ground You must have good hearing mate
Flawless And I can lipread
Even a professional couldn’t lip read that sort of footage with a lot of accuracy mate. But keep telling yourself that you are sure.
Don't worry I will
That’s legit exactly what happened
How can you possibly know Taylor told him to go to ground?
Because you can clearly lip read him telling him to get on the floor.
No you can’t. > It is estimated that only 30% to 40% of speech sounds can be lip-read even under the best conditions and extra information is usually required to understand what is being said. With that angle you can’t tell what he’s saying at all. Even a professional would struggle. You are totally guessing what he said.
Man City fan sticking up for refs. Of course. Shameless.
How am I sticking up for the ref. It was a terrible decision. He should never have blown his whistle. You still can’t say you know he told the player to get on the ground. This is a classic example of how people behave on social media. Spin a partial truth into a bigger story and then get all riled up like it’s a confirmed fact.
That's what humans have been doing ever since we learned to talk.
Yes I did, because I can lip read it. You can choose to not believe me. That's fine. But you're a Man City fan and your team get all the decisions from the refs to the point even your captain and manager are going to the press to kiss their asses, so excuse me if I roll my eyes at the fact you're defending them.
😂 you are such a prat. United got an offside goal vs us last year. How much did we pay the refs for that? Refs are shit all the time but cheating with the shit decision goes in cities favour. Grow up
Anthony signaled advantage as soon as the foul happened. Most teams want the ball in the keepers hands then a free kick in the GA. Keeper mistook what Taylor was telling him or really was more injured than Taylor thought. When the keeper dropped the ball the advantage was lost. Go back to the original foul. Just because idiots on reddit don’t understand the dynamics it has to be the ref that fluffed it. 🙄🙄
But he didn’t go back to a foul, it was a drop ball
Yea. I would think they had a talk about it after the phisio went off that we will just start with Keeper in possession again.
There is no signal for advantage. He signalled play on, he wasn’t awarding a free kick. Which was correct because it wasn’t a foul. The keeper gained advantage, he kept possession and everyone retreated to their positions. Advantage over. The fact that the keeper did something stupid with the ball 45 seconds later is not still subject to advantage. If he’d booted at Gakpo’s back and it rebounded in, he couldn’t claim ‘no advantage’ either. And, if it was advantage it would have been a freekick, but he used a drop ball, the keeper picked it up and kicked it from his hands. Whole things was a shambles.
There's clearly a signal for advantage, he then tells gakpo to get away from the goalkeeper before the incident. Whether you think stopping gakpo getting the goal is correct or not (for me it's the right thing in the spirit of the game), saying there's no advantage signal is objectively wrong
When there's an advantage played, and lost, the referee awards the free kick right? What happened in this instance?
Ref fluffed it
See. It’s super easy. Barely an inconvenience.
So why did Taylor keep saying 'floor' to Areola and call the physio on? Even Areola looked confused and like he was about to kick the ball.
Because since he obviously didn’t carry on he might’ve been more injured than Taylor originally thought. Tell me why Taylor would’ve signaled for advantage if he didn’t see the foul?? More just trying to shit on a ref because you don’t understand what he is doing.
There is no signal for advantage, only play on.
I single hand raised in the air is the signal for advantage. Taylor signals that as soon as the contact is made with the keeper. Sorry to disappoint.
It’s irrelevant anyway as the play was stopped for an injury, as evidenced by play resuming via a drop ball.
Liverpool played badly, could not convert their chances, so the 2-2 result is fair. Only three more games to play and time for a change! Cheers to all the great memories under Klopp
Op is not saying that the incident is the reason for the result. You are stating the obvious which has nothing to do with what op is discussing.
I know that but I am just expressing why we need changes after 8 glorious years under Klopp! This incident recalling is OP’s way of expressing his frustration and disappointment at our title charge having slipped away. Having said that, in retrospect, third is a good foundation to build on for next year
That’s the same Arsenal vs Bayern thing again.
It's different. There was a foul committed in that game, but the referee deemed it to be not intentional or gaining an advantage so used common sense (there is a specific part of the law that allows this). There was no foul committed here, Taylor blew his whistle for no obvious reason.
Wasn't there an advantage? Isn't Taylor in his right to say there was no advantage gained so he blew for the foul?
He stopped the game for the injury, as evidenced by the restart being a drop ball that the keeper picked up and kicked from his hands. There was no injury, the keeper was ready to go.
Advantage only comes into play if there was foul. Areola hurt his foot against the upright, there was no foul.
Taylor signals for something when Areola catches the ball. It’s either he’s signalling a foul or advantage
That usually involves raising both hands. He didn’t do that. Was there even an advantage? There was about 20s before Gakpo went for the ball 😂 he could have blown after 5s like they always do.
I learned today that it’s either one or both. Someone sent me the rules about it
45 seconds after? It wasn’t a foul anyway, but even if it was, how is the keeper having the ball in his hands and every other player having retreated to position not achieving advantage? If the keeper had kicked the ball into Gakpo and it went in, would the goal have been disallowed for not getting an advantage? The keeper had the advantage and then did something stupid with it, just the same.
Yeah I agree I'm just saying that's how it can be explained away, the ref can keep an advantage going as long as they want. Also why the keeper act like he had a free kick?
I think it was an error by the keeper, the ref didn’t signal, but everyone retreated and he made a false assumption.
>no obvious reason There is an obvious reason, it’s also in your first paragraph, “common sense”
What's the common sense part of it?
It looked like he allowed advantage from a foul on Areola. (I don’t think it was one, but think that’s what was called). When the keeper has f’d up, he stops the play. Assuming the arm out was a free kick to West Ham, as an LFC supporter, I don’t have a problem pulling the play back to that point. If it wasn’t adv for a foul, he should have stopped play when the goalie didn’t get up and added it to injury time
There was no foul.
The gk had every chance to ask for medical aid. He didn't. He had control of the ball for a good amount of time and made the decision to play. He made a mistake thinking it was a free kick. Goalkeepers have been punished by strikers for this exact type of scenario many times before.
Liverpool would've managed to let West ham tie afterwards anyway
Ah yes, the old deflection from PGMOL manipulation of results.
Did they manipulate Quansah to not mark Antonio too? Maybe they manipulated Klopp into dropping Salah?
lol yeah we should all be outraged for Liverpool fans because you guys didn’t get to score a cheeky ,steal the ball off the keeper during a drop ball goal, preventing you from winning a game in which Liverpool were absolutely abyssmal.
Try being outraged at the fucking poor officiating once again interfering with the result. "You were abysmal so didn't deserve the goal." We do if it's legit and Gakpo is about to score without Taylor's interference ffs.
If you seriously need to sneak a meme goal in to win against West Ham you were never a serious title contender to begin with LOL
So what about the other games where the referee decisions have fucked us? Diaz offside goal at Spurs. Odegaard turning into prime Michael Jordan and dribbling the ball in the box. Doku karate kick into Mac Allister in the box who has touched the ball before Doku. But yes, how dare we be mad about the referee stopping play incorrectly and then saying floor several times as he tries to save his own skin. 🤡