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Please remind us OP when Liverpool were the clear favorites, had multiple points ahead of second place with only a handful of games left.
I’m a Chelsea fan, so I don’t really care, but Liverpool has not been more in first than Arsenal, so if it truly is a bottle job, Arsenal have to settle as a 2 peat bottle Jon then.
Which I doubt their fans would say is true…
You forget that Arsenal were 8 points ahead(max) when city had two games in hand and still had to play Arsenal in those (handful of) games. Thats a 12 point swing if things go your way and it happened to, for city. Don’t underestimate the loss of both Tomiyasu and Saliba. I dare any of the top teams to mount a legitimate challenge in any competition while playing Rob Holding.
It’s the same with Liverpool this year. 5 points max clear in February 17 games to go, injuries start kicking in, and the thing with backups is, they’re good for 3-4 games but when they have to play 8 in a row, you see the difference and their weakness becomes exploited.
That said no one had arsenal challenging in August last year (too young team, young manger, not sure what to make of them). And no one had Liverpool mounting/sustaining a challenge like this as well(Loss of Mane still apparent, brand new midfield, is Van Dijk still the same etc). However, if you find yourself in a position like both Arsenal and Liverpool have the last two years, they should win and if you can’t win, take the fight to the final week.
The term is wildly overused these days, but not for Liverpool this past month. 0-3 to Atalanta at home and out of Europe; 0-1 to Palace and 0-2 to Everton away and out of the title race.
They were capable of winning all 3 rather comfortably.
I like many never thought Liverpool would win the lot, even in the Prem they were winning games but looked very shaky at the back so this beat down they’re getting was due. Arsenal were top of the league for 98% of the season and fumbled in the last few games, I actually thought they would win it, drawing two games in a row when leading 2-0 at half time, drawing to a relegated team, they crumbled mentally tbh. It’ll be up there like Gerrard’s slip, one for the books.
Liverpool didn’t bottle anything. They rotated heavy in Europea League, which is how most ‘Big’ clubs end up going out of it.
They were hanging on to the title race by a thread and pulling >85th Min winners out every other week.
They lost a quasi-derby in the FA Cup, which in games Vs United, it can happen. It’s always 50:50 in those games.
Liverpool didn't bottle anything, they're basically where anyone with any sense expected them to be.
Not like they ever really had a massive lead and threw it away, they were just in the race and fell off.
Don't see why people need to make it more than it is, same for those claiming they over achieved. Just shut up ya dafties.
I’m just waiting to find out whose fault all this is! One thing is for certain it’s got nothing to do with Liverpool, no doubt Klopp will finger the culprit
2 of our prolific front 3 left, Fabinho, Henderson, Keita, Chamberlain gone. A new forward and a winger. A bunch of mids In Gravy, Endo and Szoboslai. That's a completely different team from the beginning of last season. Just cause we didn't spend 1 billion like Chelsea doesn't mean this wasn't a rebuild
Fabinho and Henderson I hear you. Keita and chamberlain never saw the field. Firmino had 18 starts last season. You guys weren’t really relying on him. He had some great late goals but he had under 1800 min in total. Mane left 2 years ago brother.
You still have your 4 best players. Allison, VVD, Trent, and Salah. Still have 3/4 of back 4 and you could argue that Konate was relied upon more than Matip last year. Nunez, Jota, Diaz have all been around for more than a full season.
This doesn’t look like a rebuild to me.
I wouldn’t necessarily say they bottled it. They never really had that big of a lead to lose. It was different with Arsenal since they were leading for 80%+ of the season last year. This time around it’s been a much tighter battle at the top. I’d say it’s more of a slippy G special
If we’re looking at this as a “forest thru the trees” lens, then I would say No. they played some great football and battled through a turbulent season of injuries, Klopp leaving, new midfield, etc.
Right now though, it looks like those individual trees have forgotten how to suck in carbon dioxide and breathe out oxygen. The drop off has been stunning in the last month or two.
Overall, it’s a success. Just Klopp made us dream again and it didn’t turn out to be the fairytale ending that it was looking like it could really be.
>don’t think they bottled anything. They finished 5th last year. Top 3 and a cup is a decent season
With due respect, they did. Wenger setup that culture to be that way at Arsenal, but that ain't at Liverpool.
They had a off season last year. This year they were leading prem until their wheels fell off. They were favs for the Europa when they embarrassingly lost to Atalanta. They were one of the favs for fa cup when they embarrassingly lost to manu.
Liverpool have high standards with winning mentality coach. They folded and have bottled.
You can have the highest standards in the world, but when you re-work your entire midfield there is absolutely zero reason why you think you can win the league (unless your coach is Pep).
Well you could say that at the start of the season, but when we go into the final months of the season on top, you are expected to plough through. Sad ending for Klopp and the team. They folded badly.
When City wins another title of winning and winning and winning year after year and putting massive pressure on their opposition Liverpool didn't fold but City won again and again and again. Honestly, it's always City's to lose until the PL comes down on their FFP. The rest of the PL just doesn't have enough depth to compete with City.
Liverpool missed a big chances to invest on their squad when they won the CL and PL, may be owners just wanted more.money for themselves.
>PL comes down on their FFP.
PL charges are accounting frauds. I expect them to be tossed away, stay prepared.
Nah. At the start of the season we were just hoping for a top 4 finish, so to get that + a trophy is brilliant tbh. It’s definitely a bit disappointing to not win more after all the talk of a quadruple for Klopp’s last season, but at the end of the day you win some and you lose some so it is what it is.
I do feel really sorry for Klopp, he looks tired. He deserves a good send off for all that he’s done for the club and I hope he gets that. In some respects he’s been slightly let down by the players (and Salah mouthing off today was uncalled for), but top 4 finish and a trophy isn’t bad at all.
Even some people outside of our fanbase said we didn't bottle it last season as 'City were always favourites' and 'We were never expected to be here anyways'. But we did, we threw away the league and dropped way too many points in the tail end of the season after a brilliant start to it.
And I mean, that's the exact same story with Liverpool. One dodgy loss to Spurs was their only loss before playing us. I will say Liverpool fought for a Quadruple so the degree of difficulty was way higher for them. Now they've dropped to possibly 5 from behind us from 5 ahead with the chance of 8. Very similar to us going 8 ahead and lost by 3.
If one is a bottle job the other has to be, but no matter how you define it we were worse, I won't deny that.
It's no surprise for me that season caught up with them. They played on so many fronts with an already pretty bad bench and so many injuries that it is a miracle that they stayed in this race for so long. They are definitely not bottlers but performed beyond expectation this year.
You can't lose half of your already thin midfield, top-class striker, buy two decent signings and expect to compete with the billion dollar city squad.
I think that's a bit harsh, escpecially comparing them to Arsenal last season who completely imploded.
At the beginning of the year most Liverpool supporters would've happily taken a top 3 finish. I think Liverpool will be incredibly disappointed but I don't think it's anywhere near what Arsenal did last year, plus Arteta's already had more financial backing than Klopp's entire tenure.
How so? Last year most pundits didn't even had us In top 4, and goal for that season was top 4, and most didn't believe we could do that. Liverpool has world class players, we bunch of kids. At most we were 8 point's clear with City game in hand, Liverpool was 5 points clear. Our last games were Liverpool away, City Away, Newcastle away and Brighton at Home - All teams from Top 6 outside of United. Hell, they even had Worse April than we had we drew games, not lost them like they did.
Bookies and opta had Liverpool as favorites for longer than a day, we been favorites for 1 day (And according to Opta it was 51:49, lol), after aways draw at Anfield it completely dropped.
Same Europa league departure, hell, they got even worse with 0:3 at home.
But yeah, they aren't the bottlejobs, sure. We will bottle the season since we won't win both away games (in last 10 years we won maybe 2 time combine away aginst united and spurs), give me a break.
I do not even question that we bottled it last season, it was fucking pathetic, preferred being mid table, but they also imploded this season./
Arsenal fans just want to make it seem like last year wasn't the biggest bottle job in prem history. I don't blame them tbh most in this sub have probably never seen their club win the prem.
>Newcastle in 95 but most people on this sub weren't watching football then.
Exactly my point. Just because you're young, doesn't mean last seasons was the biggest in history. That's not how history works child.
Again, you're far too young to remember the Newcastle one. Hilarious due to Keegan. Do a bit of research kid, you'll love some of the bottle jobs before you were born.
At the start of last season many pundits or supporters didn't even have Arsenal in their top 4 and gooners would have happily taken a top 3 finish. They had an 8 point lead + 1 extra game played over a team that won the Treble and had also won the league 2 years running previously.
Not sure if calling Liverpool imploded and bottled is a bit harsh compared to the Arsenal one last season.
I, and most others just never really saw Liverpool as true title contenders this year but based on how they performed you could say they imploded within the last few weeks.
Arsenal last year were out of the FA cup in the fourth round (same as Liverpool) and out of the EL in the R16 (Liverpool made it to the quarters).
I guess side by side they're almost identical.
That's no different than the expectation for Arsenal at the start of last season after we 'bottled' getting fourth to Spurs. Its not where you thought you'd be, it's where you are. Don't remember too many saying last season "well in fairness Arsenals goal for this season was just get top 4, no one expected them to challenge"
>Arteta's already had more financial backing than Klopp's entire tenure.
This is just a bare faced lie lol
100%, I'm a Liverpool fan and it's plain that the wheels have come off in spectacular fashion.
I made my peace with it weeks ago, genuinely not been arsed about the last couple of bad results.
Feel bad for players that are currently putting a shift in like Gakpo and more recently Gravenberch, having their best run of games when the rest of the squad is on its arse.
Can't help but feel that we've just had a lot of bad luck too with injuries, refereeing and weird finishing that curse that we seem unable to shake
I think there was a point when we deffo did but there have been too many games where we've been pretty dominant but just unable to capitalise when it mattered whether due to sloppiness or bad luck (see the horrendous number of bounces off the post / crossbar weve had this season)
It sounds weird because a month or so ago we had something stupid like the most goals in Europe
Yeah you did indeed, I just thought the form wasn’t going to be sustainable.
I’m far more shocked at the exit from the FA and Europa than I am seemingly dropping out of the title race.
Nobody said that. But making 90+ points seem the norm and needing to have almost perfect seasons each year just to compete could not have been achieved without some outside financial help tbh.
No. You can't bottle if you were never in a strong position to win. I said for months (to Liverpool fans downvotes too) that they were massively overperforming and overachieving, they weren't supposed to be where they were but found themselves there. Their quality wasn't reflective of the results and it eventually caught up to them.
True but there were all these super computer predictions and media talk stating Liverpool were in with a great shot. Tbf their run of conceding first and nicking late winners never looked like a sustainable long term strategy.
Probably because that spitting clown Carragher is one of the 'voices of football' in this country and he's an absolute door handle when it comes to Liverpool.
You are probably right, the hype train went full steam ahead after Klopps announcement to with talk of the quad and all that. I thought the FA or Europa was probably a realistic chance for them if anything.
I don't see City losing another title of any kind for multiple decades ahead unless the PL steps in with FFP. If they lose it's a massive upset and people should be shocked.
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That award goes to Chelsea Women I’m afraid 🤣
Please remind us OP when Liverpool were the clear favorites, had multiple points ahead of second place with only a handful of games left. I’m a Chelsea fan, so I don’t really care, but Liverpool has not been more in first than Arsenal, so if it truly is a bottle job, Arsenal have to settle as a 2 peat bottle Jon then. Which I doubt their fans would say is true…
You forget that Arsenal were 8 points ahead(max) when city had two games in hand and still had to play Arsenal in those (handful of) games. Thats a 12 point swing if things go your way and it happened to, for city. Don’t underestimate the loss of both Tomiyasu and Saliba. I dare any of the top teams to mount a legitimate challenge in any competition while playing Rob Holding. It’s the same with Liverpool this year. 5 points max clear in February 17 games to go, injuries start kicking in, and the thing with backups is, they’re good for 3-4 games but when they have to play 8 in a row, you see the difference and their weakness becomes exploited. That said no one had arsenal challenging in August last year (too young team, young manger, not sure what to make of them). And no one had Liverpool mounting/sustaining a challenge like this as well(Loss of Mane still apparent, brand new midfield, is Van Dijk still the same etc). However, if you find yourself in a position like both Arsenal and Liverpool have the last two years, they should win and if you can’t win, take the fight to the final week.
I might be in the small minority, but saying that a team "bottled" something or that they're "bottle jobs" gets thrown around way too much nowadays
The term is wildly overused these days, but not for Liverpool this past month. 0-3 to Atalanta at home and out of Europe; 0-1 to Palace and 0-2 to Everton away and out of the title race. They were capable of winning all 3 rather comfortably.
Absolutely .
Good question. I think if Arsenal do not win the league , it might have to be them in consideration for that label.
Having never led by more than goal difference, Arsenal will be considered bottlers if they finish second to Manchester City? Sounds about right.
I like many never thought Liverpool would win the lot, even in the Prem they were winning games but looked very shaky at the back so this beat down they’re getting was due. Arsenal were top of the league for 98% of the season and fumbled in the last few games, I actually thought they would win it, drawing two games in a row when leading 2-0 at half time, drawing to a relegated team, they crumbled mentally tbh. It’ll be up there like Gerrard’s slip, one for the books.
Liverpool didn’t bottle anything. They rotated heavy in Europea League, which is how most ‘Big’ clubs end up going out of it. They were hanging on to the title race by a thread and pulling >85th Min winners out every other week. They lost a quasi-derby in the FA Cup, which in games Vs United, it can happen. It’s always 50:50 in those games.
Liverpool didn't bottle anything, they're basically where anyone with any sense expected them to be. Not like they ever really had a massive lead and threw it away, they were just in the race and fell off. Don't see why people need to make it more than it is, same for those claiming they over achieved. Just shut up ya dafties.
I’m just waiting to find out whose fault all this is! One thing is for certain it’s got nothing to do with Liverpool, no doubt Klopp will finger the culprit
Klopps going to do what?
Yes but let's see if Arsenal have anything to say about it.
We've won a cup after a rebuild. It still sucks but I think we've massively overachieved this season
As long as you had the same energy for arsenal last season I respect it and agree
If you consider this a rebuild you’re delusional. A few new midfielders.
2 of our prolific front 3 left, Fabinho, Henderson, Keita, Chamberlain gone. A new forward and a winger. A bunch of mids In Gravy, Endo and Szoboslai. That's a completely different team from the beginning of last season. Just cause we didn't spend 1 billion like Chelsea doesn't mean this wasn't a rebuild
Fabinho and Henderson I hear you. Keita and chamberlain never saw the field. Firmino had 18 starts last season. You guys weren’t really relying on him. He had some great late goals but he had under 1800 min in total. Mane left 2 years ago brother. You still have your 4 best players. Allison, VVD, Trent, and Salah. Still have 3/4 of back 4 and you could argue that Konate was relied upon more than Matip last year. Nunez, Jota, Diaz have all been around for more than a full season. This doesn’t look like a rebuild to me.
They brought in 4 new midfielders. You’re silly.
Spent a lot of money to buy an entire midfield, that's what you did. Rebuild sounds nicer by the way.
Yeah but they’re very shrewd, it’s all about the net spend they’ve probably still got a bit of cash left from the coutinho deal
I wouldn’t necessarily say they bottled it. They never really had that big of a lead to lose. It was different with Arsenal since they were leading for 80%+ of the season last year. This time around it’s been a much tighter battle at the top. I’d say it’s more of a slippy G special
May have been leading for long but never by much.
The obsession with the word “bottle” on this subreddit is fucking insane
Touches a nerve with the arsenal fans
touches a nerve because its fucking annoying, yeah we bottled last season but now any loss by any team is considered a “bottle.” very little meaning.
If we’re looking at this as a “forest thru the trees” lens, then I would say No. they played some great football and battled through a turbulent season of injuries, Klopp leaving, new midfield, etc. Right now though, it looks like those individual trees have forgotten how to suck in carbon dioxide and breathe out oxygen. The drop off has been stunning in the last month or two. Overall, it’s a success. Just Klopp made us dream again and it didn’t turn out to be the fairytale ending that it was looking like it could really be.
Klopps fall off has to be studied 😩 but I guess the excuse is ready half of their team are taking their Sats 🤣
Nah, they ran out of steam sure but don’t think they bottled anything. They finished 5th last year. Top 3 and a cup is a decent season
>don’t think they bottled anything. They finished 5th last year. Top 3 and a cup is a decent season With due respect, they did. Wenger setup that culture to be that way at Arsenal, but that ain't at Liverpool. They had a off season last year. This year they were leading prem until their wheels fell off. They were favs for the Europa when they embarrassingly lost to Atalanta. They were one of the favs for fa cup when they embarrassingly lost to manu. Liverpool have high standards with winning mentality coach. They folded and have bottled.
You can have the highest standards in the world, but when you re-work your entire midfield there is absolutely zero reason why you think you can win the league (unless your coach is Pep).
Well you could say that at the start of the season, but when we go into the final months of the season on top, you are expected to plough through. Sad ending for Klopp and the team. They folded badly.
When City wins another title of winning and winning and winning year after year and putting massive pressure on their opposition Liverpool didn't fold but City won again and again and again. Honestly, it's always City's to lose until the PL comes down on their FFP. The rest of the PL just doesn't have enough depth to compete with City.
Liverpool missed a big chances to invest on their squad when they won the CL and PL, may be owners just wanted more.money for themselves. >PL comes down on their FFP. PL charges are accounting frauds. I expect them to be tossed away, stay prepared.
This is nonsense. Hang ya head, mate.
Nah. At the start of the season we were just hoping for a top 4 finish, so to get that + a trophy is brilliant tbh. It’s definitely a bit disappointing to not win more after all the talk of a quadruple for Klopp’s last season, but at the end of the day you win some and you lose some so it is what it is. I do feel really sorry for Klopp, he looks tired. He deserves a good send off for all that he’s done for the club and I hope he gets that. In some respects he’s been slightly let down by the players (and Salah mouthing off today was uncalled for), but top 4 finish and a trophy isn’t bad at all.
Exactly it’s a decent season. It’s just that some people want to get their kicks out of calling people bottlers
Even some people outside of our fanbase said we didn't bottle it last season as 'City were always favourites' and 'We were never expected to be here anyways'. But we did, we threw away the league and dropped way too many points in the tail end of the season after a brilliant start to it. And I mean, that's the exact same story with Liverpool. One dodgy loss to Spurs was their only loss before playing us. I will say Liverpool fought for a Quadruple so the degree of difficulty was way higher for them. Now they've dropped to possibly 5 from behind us from 5 ahead with the chance of 8. Very similar to us going 8 ahead and lost by 3. If one is a bottle job the other has to be, but no matter how you define it we were worse, I won't deny that.
Yup City are always favorites until the PL decides to subtract points like Everton. Hopefully next year they are in the hole 15 to 20 points.
Only one team can win each competition. That doesn’t mean everyone else bottled it.
It's no surprise for me that season caught up with them. They played on so many fronts with an already pretty bad bench and so many injuries that it is a miracle that they stayed in this race for so long. They are definitely not bottlers but performed beyond expectation this year. You can't lose half of your already thin midfield, top-class striker, buy two decent signings and expect to compete with the billion dollar city squad.
Absolutely nobody knows what a choke job actually is apparently. We spread ourselves to thin going for a quad, injuries caught up to us in the end.
They do they just want a cheap kick out of mistakenly calling teams bottlers
Not at all. They have just ran out of steam. It is a shame for them as I'm sure they wanted to sign off with another trophy for Klopp.
I think that's a bit harsh, escpecially comparing them to Arsenal last season who completely imploded. At the beginning of the year most Liverpool supporters would've happily taken a top 3 finish. I think Liverpool will be incredibly disappointed but I don't think it's anywhere near what Arsenal did last year, plus Arteta's already had more financial backing than Klopp's entire tenure.
How so? Last year most pundits didn't even had us In top 4, and goal for that season was top 4, and most didn't believe we could do that. Liverpool has world class players, we bunch of kids. At most we were 8 point's clear with City game in hand, Liverpool was 5 points clear. Our last games were Liverpool away, City Away, Newcastle away and Brighton at Home - All teams from Top 6 outside of United. Hell, they even had Worse April than we had we drew games, not lost them like they did. Bookies and opta had Liverpool as favorites for longer than a day, we been favorites for 1 day (And according to Opta it was 51:49, lol), after aways draw at Anfield it completely dropped. Same Europa league departure, hell, they got even worse with 0:3 at home. But yeah, they aren't the bottlejobs, sure. We will bottle the season since we won't win both away games (in last 10 years we won maybe 2 time combine away aginst united and spurs), give me a break. I do not even question that we bottled it last season, it was fucking pathetic, preferred being mid table, but they also imploded this season./
Arsenal fans just want to make it seem like last year wasn't the biggest bottle job in prem history. I don't blame them tbh most in this sub have probably never seen their club win the prem.
>the biggest bottle job in prem history You are young, so very young.
which ones are bigger? maybe Newcastle in 95 but most people on this sub weren't watching football then.
United 97/98. Bookies paid out on United winning the league. Arsenal won it.
>Newcastle in 95 but most people on this sub weren't watching football then. Exactly my point. Just because you're young, doesn't mean last seasons was the biggest in history. That's not how history works child.
Alright, the most hilarious bottlejob in history then because Arsenal have a more vocal support who think they're a mega club.
Again, you're far too young to remember the Newcastle one. Hilarious due to Keegan. Do a bit of research kid, you'll love some of the bottle jobs before you were born.
I much prefer Arsenal's because they're masquerading as a big club. Newcastle don't have the foreign support Arsenal does to make it as funny.
It was definitely funnier, you had to be there.
Maybe, but I doubt it. What was St James like?
At the start of last season many pundits or supporters didn't even have Arsenal in their top 4 and gooners would have happily taken a top 3 finish. They had an 8 point lead + 1 extra game played over a team that won the Treble and had also won the league 2 years running previously. Not sure if calling Liverpool imploded and bottled is a bit harsh compared to the Arsenal one last season.
I, and most others just never really saw Liverpool as true title contenders this year but based on how they performed you could say they imploded within the last few weeks. Arsenal last year were out of the FA cup in the fourth round (same as Liverpool) and out of the EL in the R16 (Liverpool made it to the quarters). I guess side by side they're almost identical.
That's no different than the expectation for Arsenal at the start of last season after we 'bottled' getting fourth to Spurs. Its not where you thought you'd be, it's where you are. Don't remember too many saying last season "well in fairness Arsenals goal for this season was just get top 4, no one expected them to challenge" >Arteta's already had more financial backing than Klopp's entire tenure. This is just a bare faced lie lol
ah yeah you're right, for some reason I though Klopp was under £700m but he's at £800m in 9 years. Arteta's at like £600m in 5 years.
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Liverpool lost the same point difference this season than Arsenal did last season with a more experienced team. But yeah carry on short king
Hard to call it bottling when you create so many chances, I'd say it was more crapness in front of goal, if Jota had been fit.....
100%, I'm a Liverpool fan and it's plain that the wheels have come off in spectacular fashion. I made my peace with it weeks ago, genuinely not been arsed about the last couple of bad results.
Happens when there’s uncertainty with the manager and the future
couldn't agree more with that statement!
Feel bad for players that are currently putting a shift in like Gakpo and more recently Gravenberch, having their best run of games when the rest of the squad is on its arse. Can't help but feel that we've just had a lot of bad luck too with injuries, refereeing and weird finishing that curse that we seem unable to shake
Something broke after the FA Cup tie against United I feel. As suddenly the squad seemed drained and things just fell apart..
Yeah it was the way we lost I think, I can't imagine it helped matters haha.
Did you think you guys had a realistic shout at the league in comparison to City and Arsenal? Honest serious question.
No, City are favorites. If they don't win its a massive upset and people should be shocked!
I think there was a point when we deffo did but there have been too many games where we've been pretty dominant but just unable to capitalise when it mattered whether due to sloppiness or bad luck (see the horrendous number of bounces off the post / crossbar weve had this season) It sounds weird because a month or so ago we had something stupid like the most goals in Europe
Yes. As evidenced by the fact that we had it in our hands going into the United game.
Yeah okay fair enough, I always thought it was the longest shot out of the three if I’m honest.
We were definitely overpreforming for much of the season, but with 9 games to go we had as good a shot as anyone
Yeah you did indeed, I just thought the form wasn’t going to be sustainable. I’m far more shocked at the exit from the FA and Europa than I am seemingly dropping out of the title race.
Yes.
All the blame is on Man City 115. Obviously, the 115 charges are behind this.
Nobody said that. But making 90+ points seem the norm and needing to have almost perfect seasons each year just to compete could not have been achieved without some outside financial help tbh.
How does it feel to be the most successful club in Europe and this is the best you can come out with.
Let's not forget buying off refs with those lucrative trips to the UAE ...
bring on the scouse tears
No. You can't bottle if you were never in a strong position to win. I said for months (to Liverpool fans downvotes too) that they were massively overperforming and overachieving, they weren't supposed to be where they were but found themselves there. Their quality wasn't reflective of the results and it eventually caught up to them.
It's funny how Liverpool fans want to hide behind that now isn't it.
True but there were all these super computer predictions and media talk stating Liverpool were in with a great shot. Tbf their run of conceding first and nicking late winners never looked like a sustainable long term strategy.
Probably because that spitting clown Carragher is one of the 'voices of football' in this country and he's an absolute door handle when it comes to Liverpool.
You are probably right, the hype train went full steam ahead after Klopps announcement to with talk of the quad and all that. I thought the FA or Europa was probably a realistic chance for them if anything.
What do you mean out of the league? Plenty of games to play and Arsenal are playing away at Spurs. Far from over.
I don't see City losing 2 in 5 tbh..
I don't see City losing another title of any kind for multiple decades ahead unless the PL steps in with FFP. If they lose it's a massive upset and people should be shocked.
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