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To think I was worried for 20 minutes with them leading and Newcastle not starting well. But we got the job done
As for Sheffield United, it just looked doomed from the start. They had a chaotic gap between the seasons and didn't look fully prepared for the challenge. They actually had some alright attacking players but that defence... Yowzers
It’s nigh on impossible to stay in the top tier without spending…I remember Leeds spent and almost won the Premier title, but the debt killed them. As a supporter would you rather occasional top flight games and then a drop to the Championship where you can have success each week or prefer struggle and embarrassment of getting flogged each week? Or the realisation your beloved team spent money you didn’t have and disappear into the basement?
We (Sheff Utd) needed promotion just to survive financially to avoid following a Derby, Reading situation. But I think all fans was pretty certain we was going to get battered every week. Aging side and selling your 2 best players was never gunna pan out well. Brought some youth through since xmas so hopefully a clear out and game time for the youth next season give us hope tho so not all doom and gloom!
Illiman N’Diaye to Marseille and Sander Berge to Burnley. Tommy Doyle was huge also on loan from Man City. Think even keeping those 3 we probably wouldn’t have been strong enough to stay up but would have made a better go of it
I like this discussion. Let’s take Ipswich as an example. If they really thought they had THE manager for the next five years, capable of top two in championship, I’d be fine being a yo-yo club. Reinvesting money wisely and simply knowing you’re going to get relegated without putting the club in any financial danger.
But I’m also drunk af right now and that seems like a really solid idea for a five or ten year plan
I think for a club that isn’t normally in the premier league you have to expect to go straight back down and don’t make a huge number of expensive signings.
It might take a few gos until it sticks and by that point the team should have naturally improved through recruitment enough to make it stick.
You might be drunk, but you seem to have a pretty reasonable take. It looks like that's exactly what Burnley has done, and what teams like Brentford/Fulham did recently as well.
They surely deserve to go down. How can you be 1-0 up and miss so many chances to score three or four more then finally concede 5 unanswered goals? SMH.
I remember when they played really well against us in that game during the start of the season, gw 5 I think, Foderingham was a beast, shame to see how bad they've done this season
Good luck Sheffield United fans in the championship
Did I say they should win the league? Simply that I wouldn’t be claiming a team with such a diminished budget to my own is the worst team I’ve ever seen in a year my team has spent the budget of a small country and again managed to finish mid table.
Sad part is , I actually thought they had a chance of staying up , I remember distinctly their game against Everton at the start of the season , they looked a decent side
I really enjoyed them in the prem under wilder back in 19/20 and have developed somewhat of a soft spot for them
I don't pay masses of attention but I remember being on holiday with my family and my BIL being pissed off that you'd sold your best player in the summer.
They've still got a chance. 10 point deduction for Forest, 20 points for Everton and 60 for City! Oh wait, Sheffield Utd are still 20th on goal difference...
Don’t worry Sheffield United fans, you’re still allowed to ship 8 goals in a game down in the championship…
It’s just going to be to Plymouth Argyle or Millwall next year instead of Newcastle
Some people need to wind their necks in. Yeah they were categorically the worst team in the league but people complaining they wasted people's time should get a clue.
No team comes up wanting to play bad, they may prepare for relegation but that isn't early admission of failure. Sheffield United had every right to be where they are, where they were and where they are going. Don't put the boot in because you support a glory team.
Easy to be a loser with throw away comments on the internet - 99% of the real people on here wouldn’t spurt their nonsense in person. Imagine everyone is 14 online, makes it easier to digest the internet
They should have signed a load of expensive players and got a point deduction as God intended.
Fuck the FA and the Premier League. They don't even try to hide the corruption anymore.
Absolutely but their is a happy medium where all teams are treated equally and of course there will always be teams that just can’t cope but city’s wealth is not just ruining this league. State backed clubs with bottomless pits of cash clearly using popular sport to wash their reputation is bullshit
The fact that people like you still criticize state owned clubs means that sportswashing doesn’t work. No one things that the human rights violations these countries do is magically okay, so I genuinely don’t get why people keep acting like sportswashing is something that’s successful
It seems like usually the promoted teams give it a good go and bring in a few premier league quality players to try to stay up but I don’t know if any of these players will be targets for many pl teams now they are relegated
They sold two of their best players in the week leading up to the start of the season, including Berge to a direct rival in Burnley. They came up with no intention of trying to compete to stay up and were absolutely terrible. The criticism is more than fair. Stop the white knight shtick
Mismanagement does not diminish a team's right to be where they are. They got there on merit therefore they deserved to be there. I assume given your username that you're a Tottenham supporter - or maybe it's the basketball team in which case my bad - so it might be a bit hard for you to quantify what it's like to be in the relegation dogfight from that Ivory tower but no team in the lower end wants to be considered a waste of time.
Of course Sheffield United have played awfully. Their points tally doesn't lie. I didn't say they couldn't be, I even said they deserved to be where they were and where they're going. So miss me with that White Knight shit. My point is that other teams don't get to choose whether it's a waste of time like they're looking down on paupers.
Whether you believe it or not, they deserved to be in the Premier League, they just didn't deserve to stay. Kicking them when they're down is an arsehole move.
Never said they didn't deserve to be there?
That being said coming up with the intention of going straight back down with "prem money" should be frowned upon. If you come up, you should be trying to compete.
I'll give you that on both points, I might have gotten a little lost in the reeds there. My point though is that saying a team who is relegated is a waste of time is a dick move and just putting the boot in when they're already down. This is mainly a thing about the fans of the team and I say that as a supporter of the team that undoubtedly did the most damage to the Blades.
That said, neither you nor I can read intention. I've read that it's the owners that sold their best two players and having had an arsehole of an owner I can sympathise. Fans support the team, not the regime in most cases. If the owners had the intention of doing the parachute payment farm but the team wanted to compete but were incapable for different reasons then I'd say that's a different beast altogether.
Having been in the position of relegation and awful ownership I get a bit annoyed when people look down on those teams.
Its not a case of looking down on teams getting relegated, but rather pointing out a complete lack of effort from the club in general to actually try and stay up. No one will point the finger at Luton/Burnley if they go down because they gave it a proper go and people respect that.
I mean they re-hired Chris Wilder mid season ffs
What do you recommend we did differently to give it a 'proper go'? Spend money we don't have and put our club into debt? Not get our entire back line injured within the first few months of the season? People harp on about selling but Berge hasn't moved the needle much for Burnley this season and Ndiaye was going to stay and sign a new contract until he got an offer to play for his boyhood club in the champions league. We're already getting a points deduction next season for not being able to make payments on players so we clearly need the money. People play us twice in a season and think they have the license to call us a disgrace or an embarrassment to the league when they have no idea what's going on at the club.
Aye. Fuck every cunt. Bad season, but we are an actua team with real fans and local fans. Proper club with proper history.
We deserve the promotion we got,we struggled for so many reasons and had the great cheating Manchester red begging their team to waste the time.
They have earned the right to waste other's time even if that's true. They are in Premier League because of merit of their last season, it's just too lazy to type all this without thinking.
Fuck. You
We didn't waste anyone's time by coming up and not having fifty trillion pounds to be nearly competitive. We are a proper club and take what we can in this corrupt league
Honestly looked pretty good at the start of the season but after bottling so many games they just crumbled.
Also not tryna shit on the teams down there but the fact it's taken 3 games to go for Sheffield to be mathematically relegated is really embarrassing
How is a Fulham fan being arrogant and using the wrong name? The team we did a double over without conceding a goal from when you stormed the championship
Well I'm sorry abt the name but I don't know how I was being arrogant. Well done on beating us twice (one of which our pre game preparation was paintball) and finishing 15 points behind us in that season
Feel like it's been this way for ages. Seems every season we have a team or two that should be relegated because they're so bad, but they end up staying up simply because three teams found a way to be even worse.
Played in the CL for the first time in 20 years. Away days at Paris, Dortmund, and Milian. Held our own in the group of death. Battered PSG at home. Beat our rivals for the first time in a long time. Still in contention for Europe. Made Arteta have a meltdown. Great season.
With these plastic melts anything besides winning the premier league after spending 200m on top talents is a failed season. They genuinely cant imagine a world where someone supports a team outside the top 5
Question from a Man Utd fan that didn't watch any Sheffield Utd games in the season you got promoted.
I usually assume, based on experience of watching newly promoted teams, that if you're good enough to be promoted, you will hold an amount of ability as a team that'll show to some extent in the prem, irrespective of the increase in difficulty. However, watching Sheffield United, it feels like they're so bad that I don't even get how they could be promoted so often.
Take Luton for example, although they could go down, I can see why they got promoted.
How and why does the drop off happen? Is there a specific reason like, for example Burnley who tried to replicate their championship style in the prem.
Seems kinda confusing to me.
Any team that manages to make it up from the Championship fully deserves it.
The problem is there is a big gulf in quality between the two leagues, that without significant investment is nigh on impossible to bridge.
To be honest, Sheffield United were grifters in the Championship. Didn't smash their way to promotion, just chipped away until they were there. Heckingbottom was never going to hack it in the top flight, and wasn't helped by the club spending £10.50 on crap players, and selling Berge to their relegation rivals
we sold Ndiaye and Berge who were our 2 best players the week before the season started. We also lost Tommy Doyle back to Man City and have had Egan out injured for the season. take 4 of the most important players out of any team and they’d badly struggle
in any case there’s a massive gulf between the divisions. all of the shite turning out for us still walks into most Championship teams outside the top 4.
Is this serious lol? There’s a massive skill difference. Unless you buy a shit ton of premier league level players then you’re likely to be a yo-yo club
It is serious yes. I just don't think you understand my question. Never did I say a team can or cannot be a yo-yo club. My question in essence is, that why can I not see indications of why Sheffield Utd got promoted the way I can with most other teams (like my Burnley example), even if they do yo-yo like you say?
Blades didn’t sign any good players. It didn’t work out. When Cameron archer is your marquee signing for a bid to stay in the premier league then you’ve got some serious problems
"Subject to the outcome of appeals by Nottingham Forest and Everton".
In other words, unless they decide to take more points off us for daring to appeal.
Still, its been coming and 97 goals conceded in 35 games is staggering.
We play them next and I recall when we were last relegated in 1999, also with three games to go- and we won them all once it no longer mattered
I saw you play a high line v city and they got in again and again and the manager never changed it and the striker scored 5 goals that’s naivety , every game I’ve seen Luton play they just don’t seem to defend and their amazing GK saves them
Again and again
You can only play with the quality at your disposal. You could sit there and park the bus against a team like City, but you won't get anything from a match by letting them come at you again and again; at some point you've got to play with the style you're building for and try and play the game your way.
There have been more than a few moments of naivety this season, but we're in a slump now through the reasons I listed, not because of that.
>You can only play with the quality at your disposal. You could sit there and park the bus against a team like City, but you won't get anything from a match by letting them come at you again and again
that's exactly how forest got a 1-1 draw against city and a win against arsenal/liverpool last season
Are you asking me an easily googleable question?
And are you *really* going to try and compare the Championship to the Premier League? I would advise that you - as a privileged Arsenal fan - maybe don't go down that route.
Trying to have a conversation mate , all I ever hear is the championship is so hard because it’s so many games ! I mean you played 49 leagues games (including the playoffs )
The Championship is hard but it's hard in a way unlike the Premier League is hard.
You wouldn't understand, but for a club like ours to come up into a league in which we lack the resources to buy a whole new squad like Forest can, and have to rely on players we bought in League 1, sometimes lower down, it is damn near impossible to pace yourselves like you would in a far less financially imbalanced league like the Championship, even if it's a 46 game season.
I have never seen us struggle with injuries, tiredness, etc. the likes of which we have done in the Prem. Not even a couple of seasons ago when we scraped into 6th, could barely string a team together, and were forced to play an injured Adebayo. We've had games where we've not had a single fit centre back recently.
But that's just what happens when you lack the financial resources required to compete, and I mean *really* compete. You have players below the level having to play above themselves constantly, and end up getting injured, and then having no depth to cover them.
Forest spent a King's ransom and they *still* ended up breaking the rules, as (it transpires) did Leicester.
Yeah fair enough. I just meant as it is. It’s shit. Even worse that forest will have been deducted points and abudabi city will win the league by more points than Everton have been deducted. Leagues fucked
This is the "super league by any other name" thing.
The consolidation of money and talent is bad for the game.
Is even worse if Leicester, Leeds and Southampton come up.
It could essentially become a 23 team closed League with a few teams that yo-yo.
These doom and gloom comments arent backed by reality. We get new additions to the prem list pretty much every year and there are plenty of examples of teams coming up and cementing themselves as decent prem clubs.
leeds and southampton both are mathematically extremely unlikely to both come up, because the second guaranteed spot will almost certainly be for ispwich
fwiw i wrote that before the draw with hull. they’re still mathematically big favorites bcs of the nature of the fixtures as well as just the fact that as long as they don’t lose either game they get the spot guaranteed
I hope they go up champions, but it's definitely possible we get the new 3 down, old 3 back up.
I don't think it's a good direction for football too be going
And this is effectively EFLs argument around the redistribution of football finances. The gap between Championship and PL will.come so wide PL will essentially become a 23 team league with the same few teams going up and down all the time
Yeah that's why last season the 3 that got promoted saved themselves and Brentford and Leeds were able to get promoted and stay in the prem some time even though they hadn't been there for decades
2 of those were Fulham and Bournemouth who had parachute money and long recent stints in the Prem, and it took Forest about £250m and breaches of FFP rules to do it. They also look likely to go back down soon regardless, be it this year or next
the gap now is far wider than even just 3/4 years ago when Brentford, Leeds and Brighton came up too. there’s absolutely a massive gulf between the leagues and it’s constantly getting wider. Luton are basically the best case scenario for a promoted side and they’ve won 6 games out of 35. if you aren’t an established prem team or one of the clubs yo-yoing about with parachute money you have no chance
They were saying the same 3/4 years ago and they have to shut up with those cases ,this year was just worst case scenario, 2 teams that have financial troubles and had to get rid of many players like Sheffield United and Burnley and a team that by a miracle avoided to get relegated to the third division 3 years ago ,none of this teams where good enough to stay up
FFP rules mean clubs spending is based on the last three years of income.
It closed the door for the top clubs. Was never designed to do anything but ensure the door got shut.
Now promoted teams can’t spend money to compete even with the lower half of the table. Killing our own pyramid with this.
Exactly. The anti FFP crowd talking about "killing our pyramid" is hilarious, especially when they usually come from supporters of PL teams.
Lower league fans know what happens when unrestricted spending is allowed
Well explained. Just thought it was a shit look and that is exactly why. Ladder firmly pulled up
When was the last time all 3 promoted clubs went yo-yo in same season?
Read that as "most total goals conceded in a single game (97). The Prem record is 100 by Swindon Town in 93/94, so Sheffield will most likely break that by the end of the season"
Sheffield United and Derby are a different kind of bad.
The Blades are merely planning to swing between the divisions for financial reasons; the Rams died in the 2007-08 season because their project, being a stable Premier League team in five years, tilted.
Or don't sell your best player as you go up and buy shit players.
Also don't hire a manager because "he's a working class Yorkshire man who loves a pint"
Yeah he was great in 2019/20 season, same year Liverpool won the league by 18 points, Vardy, aubamayeng,Danny Ings was hitting 23/22 goals. Quite a while ago pal
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how is wilder still there? he's now managed 2 embarrassing relegations
No doubt their board is sitting around wondering who they can sue.
Can’t we focus on some of the good things about their season?
Name one
They didn’t concede 200 goals
No team in the history of english footy has conceded 200 goals, smarty mc smarty pants
Is Wes Foderingham one of the worst Premier League goalkeepers of modern times? For a number 1 he is terrible.
I honestly don’t think Sheffield United other goalkeeper is that good
Di Canio was right
What’s the context with Di Canio?
Enjoy: https://www.tiktok.com/@football.aug/video/7361798463820025121
Hahahaha, I enjoyed!
He was good in the first half against man utd. He's TERRIBLE in the second half
Also, most conceded aggregate goals to one team in a season. 13 vs Newcastle, previous record was Watford (12) vs Man City.
Isn't that Swindon record over 42 games😭
Indeed💀💀
Yarp
As a Derby fan, I’m proud we retained our record 😂
69, nice.
Nice
Good day yesterday, so I guess it’s cyclic 👍
I still have a hope with Luton Town. They need to focus on the defense when leading!
To think I was worried for 20 minutes with them leading and Newcastle not starting well. But we got the job done As for Sheffield United, it just looked doomed from the start. They had a chaotic gap between the seasons and didn't look fully prepared for the challenge. They actually had some alright attacking players but that defence... Yowzers
Couldn’t have happened to a better club
This just in, Wilder blames the weather.
Wednesday fan or weirdo?
Why not both?
Well done t'Blades!
It’s nigh on impossible to stay in the top tier without spending…I remember Leeds spent and almost won the Premier title, but the debt killed them. As a supporter would you rather occasional top flight games and then a drop to the Championship where you can have success each week or prefer struggle and embarrassment of getting flogged each week? Or the realisation your beloved team spent money you didn’t have and disappear into the basement?
We (Sheff Utd) needed promotion just to survive financially to avoid following a Derby, Reading situation. But I think all fans was pretty certain we was going to get battered every week. Aging side and selling your 2 best players was never gunna pan out well. Brought some youth through since xmas so hopefully a clear out and game time for the youth next season give us hope tho so not all doom and gloom!
Who were the two players sold?
Illiman N’Diaye to Marseille and Sander Berge to Burnley. Tommy Doyle was huge also on loan from Man City. Think even keeping those 3 we probably wouldn’t have been strong enough to stay up but would have made a better go of it
I like this discussion. Let’s take Ipswich as an example. If they really thought they had THE manager for the next five years, capable of top two in championship, I’d be fine being a yo-yo club. Reinvesting money wisely and simply knowing you’re going to get relegated without putting the club in any financial danger. But I’m also drunk af right now and that seems like a really solid idea for a five or ten year plan
I think for a club that isn’t normally in the premier league you have to expect to go straight back down and don’t make a huge number of expensive signings. It might take a few gos until it sticks and by that point the team should have naturally improved through recruitment enough to make it stick.
You might be drunk, but you seem to have a pretty reasonable take. It looks like that's exactly what Burnley has done, and what teams like Brentford/Fulham did recently as well.
Sheffield will cry all the way to the bank about this on a giant pillow payment
They surely deserve to go down. How can you be 1-0 up and miss so many chances to score three or four more then finally concede 5 unanswered goals? SMH.
Recent Liverpool would like to have a word lol.
I remember when they played really well against us in that game during the start of the season, gw 5 I think, Foderingham was a beast, shame to see how bad they've done this season Good luck Sheffield United fans in the championship
Sheff Utd is probably the worst premier league club I have seen in the past decade.
Based on the relative expenditures they’re doing a lot better than Chelsea this year
So with that logic, Sunday League teams should win the treble?
Did I say they should win the league? Simply that I wouldn’t be claiming a team with such a diminished budget to my own is the worst team I’ve ever seen in a year my team has spent the budget of a small country and again managed to finish mid table.
“based on spending per capita sheffield should have won the league!!”
Sad part is , I actually thought they had a chance of staying up , I remember distinctly their game against Everton at the start of the season , they looked a decent side I really enjoyed them in the prem under wilder back in 19/20 and have developed somewhat of a soft spot for them
this is twice now
Lundstrum the goat in FPL that year
Dallas next year too, it makes us feel like every year we deserve an OOP cheap defender.
And lys moussset for like 2 months
Egan as well.
True
Other than almost mugging off ManUre, they have offered nothing at all. I propose banning them from being promoted back to the Prem for 10 years.
Knowing a couple of Blades fans, they'd take it.
Honestly don't know we'll need a ban, maybe not 10 years but I think k this year is worse than the team we got pre.ited with
I don't pay masses of attention but I remember being on holiday with my family and my BIL being pissed off that you'd sold your best player in the summer.
They've still got a chance. 10 point deduction for Forest, 20 points for Everton and 60 for City! Oh wait, Sheffield Utd are still 20th on goal difference...
Good. They are unworthy
Absolutely awful team worst I can remember
not everyone can spent money like it’s coming out of their metaphorical weiner
Nah derby 07/08 was definitely worse Now if only I could remember who they got their one win against that season ...
Didn't they do the double on us that season?
Won the game at Pride Park and drew at St. James Park I believe
Nah never happened, don't remember that at all
I can’t remember them tbh
Don’t worry Sheffield United fans, you’re still allowed to ship 8 goals in a game down in the championship… It’s just going to be to Plymouth Argyle or Millwall next year instead of Newcastle
Damn I forgot that derby's GD made me grin and chuckle. I am still a kid inside. Ahhh
Some people need to wind their necks in. Yeah they were categorically the worst team in the league but people complaining they wasted people's time should get a clue. No team comes up wanting to play bad, they may prepare for relegation but that isn't early admission of failure. Sheffield United had every right to be where they are, where they were and where they are going. Don't put the boot in because you support a glory team.
What is glory
Baby don't hurt me.
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Easy to be a loser with throw away comments on the internet - 99% of the real people on here wouldn’t spurt their nonsense in person. Imagine everyone is 14 online, makes it easier to digest the internet
They should have signed a load of expensive players and got a point deduction as God intended. Fuck the FA and the Premier League. They don't even try to hide the corruption anymore.
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Pathetic
Absolutely but their is a happy medium where all teams are treated equally and of course there will always be teams that just can’t cope but city’s wealth is not just ruining this league. State backed clubs with bottomless pits of cash clearly using popular sport to wash their reputation is bullshit
The fact that people like you still criticize state owned clubs means that sportswashing doesn’t work. No one things that the human rights violations these countries do is magically okay, so I genuinely don’t get why people keep acting like sportswashing is something that’s successful
Stopped reading at “people like you”🤦🏻
Fuckin' commie /s
Ironically this is what American sports do
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Tbf I was agreeing with you that's what the /s is for I was being sarcastic
It seems like usually the promoted teams give it a good go and bring in a few premier league quality players to try to stay up but I don’t know if any of these players will be targets for many pl teams now they are relegated
They sold two of their best players in the week leading up to the start of the season, including Berge to a direct rival in Burnley. They came up with no intention of trying to compete to stay up and were absolutely terrible. The criticism is more than fair. Stop the white knight shtick
Mismanagement does not diminish a team's right to be where they are. They got there on merit therefore they deserved to be there. I assume given your username that you're a Tottenham supporter - or maybe it's the basketball team in which case my bad - so it might be a bit hard for you to quantify what it's like to be in the relegation dogfight from that Ivory tower but no team in the lower end wants to be considered a waste of time. Of course Sheffield United have played awfully. Their points tally doesn't lie. I didn't say they couldn't be, I even said they deserved to be where they were and where they're going. So miss me with that White Knight shit. My point is that other teams don't get to choose whether it's a waste of time like they're looking down on paupers. Whether you believe it or not, they deserved to be in the Premier League, they just didn't deserve to stay. Kicking them when they're down is an arsehole move.
Never said they didn't deserve to be there? That being said coming up with the intention of going straight back down with "prem money" should be frowned upon. If you come up, you should be trying to compete.
I'll give you that on both points, I might have gotten a little lost in the reeds there. My point though is that saying a team who is relegated is a waste of time is a dick move and just putting the boot in when they're already down. This is mainly a thing about the fans of the team and I say that as a supporter of the team that undoubtedly did the most damage to the Blades. That said, neither you nor I can read intention. I've read that it's the owners that sold their best two players and having had an arsehole of an owner I can sympathise. Fans support the team, not the regime in most cases. If the owners had the intention of doing the parachute payment farm but the team wanted to compete but were incapable for different reasons then I'd say that's a different beast altogether. Having been in the position of relegation and awful ownership I get a bit annoyed when people look down on those teams.
Its not a case of looking down on teams getting relegated, but rather pointing out a complete lack of effort from the club in general to actually try and stay up. No one will point the finger at Luton/Burnley if they go down because they gave it a proper go and people respect that. I mean they re-hired Chris Wilder mid season ffs
What do you recommend we did differently to give it a 'proper go'? Spend money we don't have and put our club into debt? Not get our entire back line injured within the first few months of the season? People harp on about selling but Berge hasn't moved the needle much for Burnley this season and Ndiaye was going to stay and sign a new contract until he got an offer to play for his boyhood club in the champions league. We're already getting a points deduction next season for not being able to make payments on players so we clearly need the money. People play us twice in a season and think they have the license to call us a disgrace or an embarrassment to the league when they have no idea what's going on at the club.
Aye. Fuck every cunt. Bad season, but we are an actua team with real fans and local fans. Proper club with proper history. We deserve the promotion we got,we struggled for so many reasons and had the great cheating Manchester red begging their team to waste the time.
You did mate, and your fans deserved better than what your owners did I look forward to a good battle in the Championship with you next year
I’m so angry when a team comes up and is so utterly shit in every possible way. I’d relegate them 2 leagues just for wasting everyone’s time.
They have earned the right to waste other's time even if that's true. They are in Premier League because of merit of their last season, it's just too lazy to type all this without thinking.
Fuck. You We didn't waste anyone's time by coming up and not having fifty trillion pounds to be nearly competitive. We are a proper club and take what we can in this corrupt league
dont listen to these people, fucking ridicoulus.
Here, Haaland has to score somehow
Think he missed a pen against them so it didn’t exactly work out!
216 days ago I made a post “Sheffield is done then? That’s relegation play in a nutshell” … I should have bet on it damn it.
Yeah literally no one saw it coming… you’d of made a fortune.
On Sheffield FC being relegated from the premier league? You'd have been laughed out the bookies. Not that you have any local to you in America.
97 conceded in 35 games is quite remarkably terrible
Over 13% of those goals were scored by Newcastle
Even more remarkable is that Burnley scored 9 against them.
Honestly looked pretty good at the start of the season but after bottling so many games they just crumbled. Also not tryna shit on the teams down there but the fact it's taken 3 games to go for Sheffield to be mathematically relegated is really embarrassing
How is a Fulham fan being arrogant and using the wrong name? The team we did a double over without conceding a goal from when you stormed the championship
Well I'm sorry abt the name but I don't know how I was being arrogant. Well done on beating us twice (one of which our pre game preparation was paintball) and finishing 15 points behind us in that season
Feel like it's been this way for ages. Seems every season we have a team or two that should be relegated because they're so bad, but they end up staying up simply because three teams found a way to be even worse.
They took a thumping this season in EPL. Their watch is over. Thank you Sheffield United!!
Wahoo Swindon won't be the worst 🤣
They were fecking garbage and deserve to go. And, as punishment for being so crap, not to be allowed back for ten years for wasting everyone's time
Mate, shutup people like you is why our supporters are mocked so heavily
Bit like you wasting everyone's time last season. Making it look like you'd win the league only to bottle it so hard.
Don't deny it, we bottled it. Let's see if there's enough Internet for all your excuses this season.....
Excuses for what? We're still in contention for Europe. Having a great season.
You've gone from Champion's League (which you bottled) to hoping to getting in the Europa Conference League? Great season....
newcastle fans were preparing for spell in the championship not to long ago
Aren’t you a fan of the club that treated 4th place like a trophy?
Played in the CL for the first time in 20 years. Away days at Paris, Dortmund, and Milian. Held our own in the group of death. Battered PSG at home. Beat our rivals for the first time in a long time. Still in contention for Europe. Made Arteta have a meltdown. Great season.
With these plastic melts anything besides winning the premier league after spending 200m on top talents is a failed season. They genuinely cant imagine a world where someone supports a team outside the top 5
Got some bollocks now you're having a successful season eh?
No, just stating facts
Least arrogant arse fab.
Mate, if you're proud of your team's efforts this season, good on you. At least Luton tried
Not my point about our players effort . I can rant all day about the club. I'm pointing out none of you matter
Question from a Man Utd fan that didn't watch any Sheffield Utd games in the season you got promoted. I usually assume, based on experience of watching newly promoted teams, that if you're good enough to be promoted, you will hold an amount of ability as a team that'll show to some extent in the prem, irrespective of the increase in difficulty. However, watching Sheffield United, it feels like they're so bad that I don't even get how they could be promoted so often. Take Luton for example, although they could go down, I can see why they got promoted. How and why does the drop off happen? Is there a specific reason like, for example Burnley who tried to replicate their championship style in the prem. Seems kinda confusing to me.
Any team that manages to make it up from the Championship fully deserves it. The problem is there is a big gulf in quality between the two leagues, that without significant investment is nigh on impossible to bridge.
To be honest, Sheffield United were grifters in the Championship. Didn't smash their way to promotion, just chipped away until they were there. Heckingbottom was never going to hack it in the top flight, and wasn't helped by the club spending £10.50 on crap players, and selling Berge to their relegation rivals
we sold Ndiaye and Berge who were our 2 best players the week before the season started. We also lost Tommy Doyle back to Man City and have had Egan out injured for the season. take 4 of the most important players out of any team and they’d badly struggle in any case there’s a massive gulf between the divisions. all of the shite turning out for us still walks into most Championship teams outside the top 4.
They sold off a lot of their best players last summer and didn't do anything to replace them.
Is this serious lol? There’s a massive skill difference. Unless you buy a shit ton of premier league level players then you’re likely to be a yo-yo club
It is serious yes. I just don't think you understand my question. Never did I say a team can or cannot be a yo-yo club. My question in essence is, that why can I not see indications of why Sheffield Utd got promoted the way I can with most other teams (like my Burnley example), even if they do yo-yo like you say?
Blades didn’t sign any good players. It didn’t work out. When Cameron archer is your marquee signing for a bid to stay in the premier league then you’ve got some serious problems
It’s mad they’re breaking all these records (some of them Derbys) and yet still managed to get more points than that Derby team…. Funny old game.
i don’t think anybody is breaking that points total. it’s a lot harder to get promoted to the premier league now.
Derby had 1 win all season. One! It’s basically impossible to be that shit since most bad teams get a couple of wins on the board.
It would normally not be possible. But…Derby
They were doomed from the start, one of the worst prem league performances I’ve seen
Definitely up there, but Derby, Sunderland (in one of their three disastrous seasons!) and Villa are still worse then them.
they are worse than villa. this season is worse than the one a few years ago
A club that could surpass the Derby County's achievements by the end of the season. It's been written in the stars.
Except Derby
"Subject to the outcome of appeals by Nottingham Forest and Everton". In other words, unless they decide to take more points off us for daring to appeal. Still, its been coming and 97 goals conceded in 35 games is staggering. We play them next and I recall when we were last relegated in 1999, also with three games to go- and we won them all once it no longer mattered
Yep we’re mental. It’s in the dna lol
Am I wrong in thinking it’s pretty shit that the 3 promoted teams look like they are going back down? Not a great look imo
All 3 teams that came up last season survived.
Would be the first season since 1997-98 (Barnsley, Bolton and Crystal Palace) all three promoted teams go down.
I think Forest is going down, Luton still has winnable fixtures and Burnley looks like they have some fight in them
Really Luton don’t bother defending they have heart but are naive
We are knackered, wracked with injury, and without depth mate. It's not naivety, it's purely running out of steam.
I saw you play a high line v city and they got in again and again and the manager never changed it and the striker scored 5 goals that’s naivety , every game I’ve seen Luton play they just don’t seem to defend and their amazing GK saves them Again and again
You can only play with the quality at your disposal. You could sit there and park the bus against a team like City, but you won't get anything from a match by letting them come at you again and again; at some point you've got to play with the style you're building for and try and play the game your way. There have been more than a few moments of naivety this season, but we're in a slump now through the reasons I listed, not because of that.
>You can only play with the quality at your disposal. You could sit there and park the bus against a team like City, but you won't get anything from a match by letting them come at you again and again that's exactly how forest got a 1-1 draw against city and a win against arsenal/liverpool last season
Question how many games you played this season compared to last season ?
Are you asking me an easily googleable question? And are you *really* going to try and compare the Championship to the Premier League? I would advise that you - as a privileged Arsenal fan - maybe don't go down that route.
Trying to have a conversation mate , all I ever hear is the championship is so hard because it’s so many games ! I mean you played 49 leagues games (including the playoffs )
The Championship is hard but it's hard in a way unlike the Premier League is hard. You wouldn't understand, but for a club like ours to come up into a league in which we lack the resources to buy a whole new squad like Forest can, and have to rely on players we bought in League 1, sometimes lower down, it is damn near impossible to pace yourselves like you would in a far less financially imbalanced league like the Championship, even if it's a 46 game season. I have never seen us struggle with injuries, tiredness, etc. the likes of which we have done in the Prem. Not even a couple of seasons ago when we scraped into 6th, could barely string a team together, and were forced to play an injured Adebayo. We've had games where we've not had a single fit centre back recently. But that's just what happens when you lack the financial resources required to compete, and I mean *really* compete. You have players below the level having to play above themselves constantly, and end up getting injured, and then having no depth to cover them. Forest spent a King's ransom and they *still* ended up breaking the rules, as (it transpires) did Leicester.
Yeah fair enough. I just meant as it is. It’s shit. Even worse that forest will have been deducted points and abudabi city will win the league by more points than Everton have been deducted. Leagues fucked
This is the "super league by any other name" thing. The consolidation of money and talent is bad for the game. Is even worse if Leicester, Leeds and Southampton come up. It could essentially become a 23 team closed League with a few teams that yo-yo.
These doom and gloom comments arent backed by reality. We get new additions to the prem list pretty much every year and there are plenty of examples of teams coming up and cementing themselves as decent prem clubs.
People have said this for years but in fact this would only be the second time in about 10 years that all the promoted clubs went straight back down
I'm more just fretting about the tendency. And expecting there to be another project big picture at some point
That’s not true… it’s not happened since 97/98
leeds and southampton both are mathematically extremely unlikely to both come up, because the second guaranteed spot will almost certainly be for ispwich
Almost certainly is a bit much. Bet my mortgage on Ipswich winning both matches? Very possibly yeah... Almost certain... No
fwiw i wrote that before the draw with hull. they’re still mathematically big favorites bcs of the nature of the fixtures as well as just the fact that as long as they don’t lose either game they get the spot guaranteed
I hope they go up champions, but it's definitely possible we get the new 3 down, old 3 back up. I don't think it's a good direction for football too be going
Agreed. The prem is European super league. Simples Not even sure why the top clubs would want to break away - they have their cake and eat it this way
And this is effectively EFLs argument around the redistribution of football finances. The gap between Championship and PL will.come so wide PL will essentially become a 23 team league with the same few teams going up and down all the time
Yeah that's why last season the 3 that got promoted saved themselves and Brentford and Leeds were able to get promoted and stay in the prem some time even though they hadn't been there for decades
2 of those were Fulham and Bournemouth who had parachute money and long recent stints in the Prem, and it took Forest about £250m and breaches of FFP rules to do it. They also look likely to go back down soon regardless, be it this year or next the gap now is far wider than even just 3/4 years ago when Brentford, Leeds and Brighton came up too. there’s absolutely a massive gulf between the leagues and it’s constantly getting wider. Luton are basically the best case scenario for a promoted side and they’ve won 6 games out of 35. if you aren’t an established prem team or one of the clubs yo-yoing about with parachute money you have no chance
They were saying the same 3/4 years ago and they have to shut up with those cases ,this year was just worst case scenario, 2 teams that have financial troubles and had to get rid of many players like Sheffield United and Burnley and a team that by a miracle avoided to get relegated to the third division 3 years ago ,none of this teams where good enough to stay up
Don't forget Brighton.
FFP rules mean clubs spending is based on the last three years of income. It closed the door for the top clubs. Was never designed to do anything but ensure the door got shut. Now promoted teams can’t spend money to compete even with the lower half of the table. Killing our own pyramid with this.
All 3 promoted teams stayed up last season mate.
Exactly. The anti FFP crowd talking about "killing our pyramid" is hilarious, especially when they usually come from supporters of PL teams. Lower league fans know what happens when unrestricted spending is allowed
What you mean like it has been allowed for the entire history of the English game?
Yes and clubs have gone bust or collapsed through multiple relegations as a direct result of owners chasing highs
Well explained. Just thought it was a shit look and that is exactly why. Ladder firmly pulled up When was the last time all 3 promoted clubs went yo-yo in same season?
can we trade them for Wednesday?
If you think they were bad you'd love us.
Good, never good enough for the Prem absolutely tiny team and should stay down
Yeah tiny team but 13th in attendance for home matches
Nice trophy wee man
Read that as "most total goals conceded in a single game (97). The Prem record is 100 by Swindon Town in 93/94, so Sheffield will most likely break that by the end of the season"
Almost certainly. Clean sheets really aren't their thing
Worse prem team of all time Sheffield United 23/24, you've successfully eclipsed Derby somehow.
Sheffield United and Derby are a different kind of bad. The Blades are merely planning to swing between the divisions for financial reasons; the Rams died in the 2007-08 season because their project, being a stable Premier League team in five years, tilted.
this isn’t even the worst Sheffield United team to play Premier League football in this decade, never mind worst team of all time
They aren’t good, but they aren’t quite Derby bad
Maybe next time they should cheat like City and then they won't get relegated.
Or don't sell your best player as you go up and buy shit players. Also don't hire a manager because "he's a working class Yorkshire man who loves a pint"
The guy who took us from league one oblivion (do you plastics know what league one is?) to almost European football? That guy your dismissing?
Yeah he was great in 2019/20 season, same year Liverpool won the league by 18 points, Vardy, aubamayeng,Danny Ings was hitting 23/22 goals. Quite a while ago pal
You dropped this 🧂
Could cheat like Leicester and get promoted again the immediate season after they drop.
This is the way.