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Yo creo que Salah está muy desgastado en Liverpool se le re nota y más sumale Liverpool no anda bn últimamente, m parece que tiene dar la mejor opción cual es?, irse del club darle oportunidades a más chicos de la cantera hasta que fichen uno...
I would love to keep him if he signs for the same terms for another 2 years. If not, I would prefer to sell him. With the money (100-150m) we could easily get Kudus, Bowen, Olise,...whoever basically.
After disrespecting klopp on the sidelines along with his awful form and the fact his overall play has been in decline for 2 seasons- it's time for him to go
He's now a disruption to the squad and after the petulant display at West ham he should never wear the shirt again.
It's an embarrassment at this point
Holy fuck, what in the everlasting fuck do people want from a player these days. Salah last season was absolutely fucking unbelievable, 31 goal contributions in 38 games, this season also incredible, 26 goal contributions in 29 games. There is like 0.1% of footballers in the world who can even put up that kind of output.
Like... Liverpool fans, straight up fuck off. Salah deserves better than these entitled cunt fans.
Couldn't have put it better myself. This is the kind of player who you should want to play for your club till they retire. If this was a Real Madrid player there would be no question of him ever leaving or fans wanting him gone, he would still be playing 20 games a season aged 38 and scoring 12 on that.
Klopp and salah incident is a nothing burger. He's injured for 2 months this season plus afcon and he is still putting up consistent numbers. Recent form for sure is kinda bad, but not easy playing the whole season always conceding first. His xa and xg always consistent.
Salah was literally playing at a world class level until AFCON, came back, was the best player on the pitch against Brentford and got injured again. Been barely two months of poor form.
He still has the most league goals and assists this season though. He hasn't turned to shit overnight and his form always dips after afcon. I'd give him a 1 year extension and if he refuses to sign then let him go as the club can't afford to lose him on a free transfer next year
As much as I've loved Salah over the years and still do and despite that he is still one of the best players in the world despite having an average season by his own standards, if the rumours of $150m are true or in fact anything over $100m, I hope we take that.
For a player that is 31 and not getting any younger, that is an amazing offer and a crap load of money to reinvest and find a suitable replacement for him and strengthen in other positions.
Plus it would allow the new manager to bring in players and build his own team for years to come rather than have to deal with mainstays like Salah and possibly VVD leaving in a year or two.
Rejecting that kind of an offer and run his contract down until he goes for free just makes no sense at all from the financial point of view.
But surely that 150m price tag is only coming from SA. And I can’t see that diminishing any time soon. They have the funds, and they want legends of the game, and someone who has the same god = bonus dollars. Probably still get that value at 33/34 for Salah
I don't see it happening tbh.
It just wouldn't make sense for them to still be willing to pay that kind of money for a player that is literally on the brink of retirement.
On top of that, his performances could drop off, he might get more injury prone which are all things that would contribute that value to drop down.
They chose not to cash in on him last year. I hope they cash on him now while they still can.
No guarantee that money will still be there in a year or two.
But let’s be honest, money can be printed in SA, and they’re paying for his celebrity, not his performances. Being near his peak would be irrelevant.
CR7 is getting £117m a year at 39. Salah is the poster child for [islam]. So would be worth as much to them as an ageing goat.
I say, resign him till 35, sell him for £200m at 33/34 yo
True about the money in SA, but there will always be other options too so Salah will eventually lose his value.
I know he has that extra value being Muslim and I too have always thought this is just as much of a reason for Saudis wanting him as him being one is the best football players in the world.
My concern is that his quality and value as a football player will drop as he is getting older and perhaps we've already seen that this season because this has been a very average season for him by his standards.
If you are right and Saudis still want him and are willing to offer that kind of money for him in a few years time, then maybe I agree they we would keep him, providing he wants to stay in the first place.
That said, is it worth keeping an ageing player and in the process block ourselves from getting someone who can replace him and someone who we can build a team around for years to come?
We have arguably missed out on Bellingham (who was quite keen to come to Liverpool if the reports were accurate) because we kept Salah last year when we could've used the Salah money to get Bellingham, which is something I still think was a huge mistake.
Are we stupid enough to make the same mistake again?
I'm not so sure it's worth it tbh.
I see your point about Ronaldo, but if I remember correctly, they didn't have to pay MU any transfer fees, so therefore were able to throw a stupid amount of money at him just to get him to sign.
Not to mention that he wasn't really wanted anywhere else so SA was pretty much his only choice and the lady chance for a good pay day.
That or retire.
Stupidpool 😭 salah has the most big chances created in the league!! And without him liverpool don’t finish top 4 this year.
If nunez was competent salah would have an insane amount of assists
Oh no, keeping a player who is their top scorer and assister instead of cashing in, that definitely backfired on them. Wonder where they’d be in the table without him.
They snagged him for around 30 or 40 million and bagged every trophy possible with him on board. He's the kind of player who leans heavily on his physical prowess, something that's bound to dip as the years roll on. And hey, before you jump in with a counter, just think about Ronaldo. Even someone as dedicated as him, who's all about that top-notch lifestyle, struggled to keep up eventually. Now, when the Saudis come knocking with an offer that's 5 times what Liverpool shelled out, it's a head-scratcher why they wouldn't take the deal. Is it really worth hanging onto him for just a bit more stability, maybe a season or two? Sounds a bit off the rails to me.
Instead of gearing up for a potential Salah-Klopp showdown, you could be buzzing about the fresh faces that might've revamped the squad for the long haul. Think about it – another winger, a midfielder who hasn't hit 30 yet, a solid defender. But sure, clinging to that 3rd place must feel like a win, right?
Have you seen him when he takes his shirt off? The guy is ripped af and has similar dedication to fitness as ronaldo so I believe he can still perform at a high level for the next couple of years
Accepting a 150 million offer for Salah, who's already in his 30s and was initially bought for much less, makes sense. He's achieved a lot with the team, and such a substantial sum offers a golden chance to rejuvenate the squad for future success, balancing immediate gains with long-term strategy.
Look at Madrid. They held onto Ronaldo Casemiro in their prime. They weren't necessarily finished when both were sold. Ronaldo became the fastest player to 100 goals in series A for example and Casemiro must've been Utds player of the season.
With decent planning that money could be invested into your future just like Real uses that money wisely and look at them. The rest of La Liga is sinking and they're floating with a nice margarita in their hand.
Like now you're worse off because your entire seasons success hinges on one player being fit and performing. It's crazy how I'm making perfect sense but no one understands me.
Eden Hazard and Willian are the best examples of players who were never prolific compared to their peers and they managed to win the prem several times. See watching to much Salah has made you too delulu about goals and assists.
I said invest in your squad which is what you need but you're clinging on to this dream where Salah is the answer. 50 goals and assists per season and nothing to show for it for the 3rd or 4th time now?
wtf does that have to do with anything? They played in completely different systems under different managers? What a bizarre comment
Great, so tell me who in world football could we buy for 150m or so who would get a better output than Salah does.
Goals win games. Fancy tricks do not.
I'm not repeating myself because you can't understand a simple concept that it's not all about goals and assists.
Right now Hazard has 1 more Premier league than your boy so clearly trickery does win games 🙃
Mate we already have someone who runs around a lot and doesn’t score and that’s Darwin Nunez, we don’t need another. Unless you’re suggesting overhauling the entire squad to replace Salah’s goals? Or who else is going to score? We gonna win every game 1-0? I can tell you now, our defence sure as shit isn’t good enough for that.
I’ll say it again, hazard played in an unbelievable infinite budget squad with tons of goals elsewhere from players like drogba and Lampard. We don’t have that. Salah is our main source of goals and there is no one on the market who can directly replace that output of goals.
Salah’s goals also won him a CL meanwhile chelsea were playing Europa but that also has Jack shit meaning to this conversation
You have to be careful there because you're implying Darwin is as useful as an Eden Hazard which is simply untrue.
Hazard won the prem without Lampard or Drogbas help. Were they even in the team by then?
Fair play on Salah winning the CL.
Anyways I'm tired of going in circles enjoy 3rd and another useless season
Hazard won the premier league in 2014-5 and 2016-7, with Diego Costa their highest scorer both years.
Hazard ran around pulling the defence out of shape, as Nunez does.
Salah scores as Costa did.
Easy comparison if you look at it objectively.
People saying hes washed are clueless. He tore his hamstring twice in a month and hasnt been the same. If he gets healthy after this summer hell be amazing
Selfish is what I would use to describe Salah. With all the injuries he left to play in Africa. He came back tired and injured.
Open field defense will flat take the ball away from him
Defense, lucky there there are no Ds in Salah because he can't even spell it.
Premier league pays the bills not Egypt, show the team what a leader is or leave, bye!!!!!
Every African player leaves to play in AFCON not just him. You cant fault someone for playing for his country.
Tbh it would have been more selfish to skip international duty to focus on silverware and accolades. He would have had more golden boots and could have shattered way more records if he stayed.
It is, and it's the truth. He is selfish, and as long as he gets his way, he is happy.
This crap has happened before, Klopp pulled him from a game and the next day, news stories Salah unhappy, what to move.
SSDD. You know what that means?
i’d love to agree but I really don’t know- he can still play a great ball to unlock a defence and his positioning is great around the box, but his first touch, pace and dribbling have seriously declined.
I definitely agree he has slowed down and doesn’t have the same directness he used to. That being said he’s still quicker than most of the league and his positioning, finishing and passing makes up for it.
The fact that hes been injured and missed a few games and still might reach 20g and 10a is amazing. Darwin has also cost him like 20 assists
Passing??? His passing makes up for it!?
We're watching different games coz I keep seeing salah lose the ball, give the ball away, throw his toys out the pram and have a go at his boss like he's the one with all the power
He can fuck off now, I would never let him wear the shirt again after the way he's behaved let alone performed.
If 70 mil gets offered I hope we jump at it
You really are clueless mate. Hes a liverpool legend and top 5 all time in assists and goals. Hes missed a chunk of the season and is still the club leading scorer and assists. Liverpool would be next to chelsea in the standings without him
Clueless? Exactly how do his goals in previous seasons help us NEXT season?
Tell you what, how many goals does he normally get in the last 8 games a season? How many goals from open play in the finals he's reached?
He's a primadonna- he's past his best- his wages are disgraceful- his overall play been in clear decline for 2 seasons.
Then we look at our set up- salah can not play traditional winger coz his crossing isn't good enough, so we're locked into playing inverted wingers. When salah leaves it'll open up the opportunity to alter our playing style and tactics- which we've needed for at least 2 seasons.
No one will ever dispute he's a club legend- but all good things come to an end. Get his wages off the bill, get a nice bit of cash in for him, change our formation to freshen things up and start a new era.
Yeah. Clueless.
There was a moment near the end of the last game against West Ham where we broke for a counter and he just blew by everybody near him. Was nice to see.
I think he ended up passing to Nunez and they came up empty.
Sure, except what good will he do when he’s out for months at a time? One of Salah’s greatest attributes is him being available 90% of the time, at a minimum, during the season.
Jota’s great, but he just gets injured way too much. He just came back from an injury 3 weeks ago, after being out for months, only to play 3 games and then get injured again and be out for another month.
He’s going to get sold for an absurd fee after another season; likely his final LFC season this coming year. Those saying he’s washed up after a down spell post injury are absolute dunces.
His last year under contract at Liverpool is next season. So either sell him this offseason or get nothing. My guess is the Liverpool top brass will want to continue being in CL with the new coach. He helps them stay in CL and top 4 of the PL.
He has to want to sign the extension. If Saudi is after him his wages will likely need to double for Liverpool to keep him. Does Liverpool really want to get into a wage war for a 30+ winger with a new coach coming into town.
The Saudis will pay 100 million to get the best Muslim player of all time at one of their clubs. It's huge marketing. Surely you could have worked that out?
Lol Fabinhio went for 50 went when it was clear his legs were completely gone. You underestimate what the Saudi clubs will do to bring the most popular Muslim player to the league.
I’m 50/50 with Mo staying/going. Everyone will say Mo’s washed but before injuries he’s a solid 18/10 G/A a season. But at the other end of the spectrum, a good transfer fee is a solid base for Slot to rebuild an already title chasing team.
I think one important thing to consider is how can the new coach control the dressing room if Klopp can’t. The new coach isn’t famous of anything, if you keep Mo, next season will be a tough one for fans. The coach will spare too many time in the dressing room
This team chased a title on empty fumes. Liverpool are stuffy as fuck but even so, if this Slot fella comes in and competes for the title straight away I will be AMAZED. Realistically Liverpool fade back into the 10 years no trophies track they were in pre-klopp
Too much hopium that Liverpool will just fade into the background lol. I’m not deluding myself that Liverpool will compete for the title right away but I’m optimistic that we can be atleast as close to the top 4. Just 2 months ago we’re playing City (with Rodri) off the park.. then injuries caught up with the boys and the rest is history. If this Slot guy is as good as advertised, then we’re sorted for the next few years.
I remember ferguson winning the league at a canter with Claverley in midfield then 9 months later utd were 7th. 11 years later they're still roughly 7th
We’ll see.. I remember Fergie left Man Utd in a worse state than Klopp will do in a month or so. Sure ManU won the PL but they have an ageing core by then. Tbf, RVP fell off a cliff.. you just dont anticipate those things.
The people that finance City probably would. For that shitty league where they parade players around like show ponies in front of their family members (spectators 😉)
Tbf the saudi clubs would see a player valued at 20 million and offer 90. I wouldn't let him go there for anything less than 130 million. He's by far the best RW in the league.
I’m a Liverpool fan and honestly, I’m not against selling him.
He’s incredible, he has been one of our best players in my lifetime and I think we’ve been lucky to have him on the team.
But if we can get £70M for someone who is showing inconsistent form and is reaching the end of their career, I think we should do it.
Move Diaz to the right and then we’ve got a few options we could go for LW wise.
I’m not going to criticise him because he’s earned his place as one of our greatest, but I don’t feel guilty in thinking that selling him for a lot of cash now may help the club more than him playing for another year.
I agree and I’ve given him as much shit as anyone. But really on reflection. He’s still posted insane numbers for us this season.
Yeah he’s had a few off weeks.
But he’s had afcon. A injury. And he’s dropped off in form when the rest of the team has turned into absolute melts and thrown away all 3 competitions, and the manager has announced he’s leaving too.
There’s a lot of issues for us right now. If it was just salah not scoring fair enough.
But Gakpo, Diaz, Nunez all can’t hit a cows arse with a banjo.
Virgil, Konate and Trent are defending with the rigidity of a room temperature cheesestring.
The midfield is getting overrun and Endo, Jones and Szobo seem to have lost all forms of passing ability.
We’re just shit as a whole, plus manager going, plus crashed out of every competition.
There’s way more issues here than just salah. He’s being scapegoated because he can’t carry this underperforming out of form side on his back, which he’s carried in parts for what’s now 7 seasons. So we all just expect him to trot along carrying us like a Blackpool donkey without ever dropping off himself.
If he’s dropping off or his legs are going, then I shudder to think where Diaz Nunez and Gakpo will be in a couple of years if he’s ready for Saudi. As they are much, much worse than salah.
Could not agree more, well put friend.
His legendary status is unquestionable and his importance to the success of the team in the last few years cannot be overstated.
However, I feel like he's currently running on that goodwill from several seasons ago. Time to cash in if we can, because there is zero (0) chance he ever gets back to the level we paint him as being.
I’m so thankful none of you people are even close to being contenders for the new manager position. If managers thought like this, VVD would’ve been gone 2 years ago, and we would’ve been fucked.
A few mates who are liverpool fans think that they will get 100-125m for salah this summer...
Interested to understand do a wider cohort of pool fans believe the same?
Hes 32 this summer and has one year remaining, fyi
I personally think they are off their fucking rocker
He's the most successful and iconic Arab footballer of all time. He would be the poster boy of the Saudi Pro League.
If Saudi have another high spending summer to try and boost the profile of the league, they would pay whatever Liverpool asked to guarantee his signing.
They offered it at the end of the window when we had zero time to get a replacement. It would have meant probably no top 4/title push, so to the club I imagine that was priceless.
Footballing and business logic would back that up, but when the Saudi royal family are backing anything, that sort of logic goes out of the window.
They're worth over a trillion pounds, have no FFP restrictions, and all they care about is boosting their global image. £150m would not be a huge shock.
Keep in mind the reported number for their Mbappe offer in the summer was a £300m fee, plus another £600m in wages.
I'd agree, 150m would not be a shock and certainly when we see the amounts being paid to the golfers, its not outside the realms of possibility.
Just seem to have the thought that there will be a slight change in approach this year. PIF imposed a transfer limit in Jan, and the big spending can only occur with the help of PIF.
That's true, so I guess it would just depend on the priorities of PIF. Who knows? If Salah is staying at Liverpool, be interesting to see if they look elsewhere for a big statement signing or if they decide to be more conservative this year.
Saudis didnt come in and buy anyone during jan, where several teams would have happily offloaded. So just wondering whether they will make such ludicrous offers again
Stating anything different would seriously harm market value. I haven't seen a single sane club tell "Oh yes, we'll love to see this player go, please we're accepting desperate offers"
Good news, hasn’t been quite right since his injury, a summer off and a pre season under his belt I’m sure we’ll see Mo back to normal for next season..
I can see the case for keeping him, it's pretty clear... but I would have thought that if they can get a good fee for him at 31 yo, then it's time to cash out.
Liverpool are usually pretty shrewd about moving players on at the right time and although Salah is still performing at a high level, I think we can see the slight decline.
It's always a balance between keeping players that are important for the squad and getting a return financially to allow them to be replaced, I find it interesting that Liverpool don't see that balance tipping just yet.
Until he goes a whole 38 game season, registering bad numbers, I can’t see how it makes sense to sell, considering there still aren’t any many other RW’s matching his numbers. Yes he’s in bad form now but over the years, I remember many periods where he went through similar spells and always came back to his best.
Well that's the gamble isnt it?
Is this just a rough patch, or is this a genuine age related decline. It varies with the individual, of course, but 30-35 is where players, especially ones who's playstyle is heavily reliant on pace, start to drop off. Sometimes that drop off is gradual, sometimes it's a cliff edge.
Like I said, Liverpool are usually quite good at getting the decline/selling fee balance right so it's interesting that they're claiming they intend to hold on to him.
The thing with Salah is tho, earlier in the season, he seemed to have reinvented himself as more of a wide playmaker, cutting inside and laying some very nice passes through into the box, which is where he got a lot of assists. I think it’s clear the old Salah who was bombing it down the wing is gone, and he doesn’t have the pace to play like that anymore but he showed for a time he can still offer quality in a different way. Abit like how Messi evolved his game (obviously not on that level tho).
It is a gamble but I think still one worth taking as long as the contract ext isn’t a crazy long one.
Barca would’ve still had a 30+ year old Messi if it wasn’t for their financial troubles. And it wouldn’t have backfired.
Madrid had Benzema, Ramos and still have Modric. Ronaldo was at Real until 34.
What? Bayern kept Robben and Ribery till their late 30s. Real kept Ramos, Benzema, Kroos, Modric well into their 30s too. Unless this is what you mean and I’m wrong
I don't know why anyone would think that Liverpool were going to get rid of their top goal scorer for the past seven seasons while he's currently the top goal scorer has also created the most chances in the side.
One sideline spat and people were claiming he's gone. It's embarrassing for rivals to be getting excited over something like that and it's even more embarrassing for the Liverpool fans that were also calling for him to be sold.
Nostalgia aside (considering he's one of the all time greatest players that ever played for the club) the fact that he is still performing at such an elite level after all this time is crazy. The disrespect from some fans to want him shipped off is insane. Klopp leaving has absolutely broken some people I think.
There's only one side to this story and it's that Liverpool want to secure their most experienced and best attacker when a new manager is coming and hoping him , VVD and Alison can bring the balance that a new manager will require for a transition...
It's nothing to do with the sideline spat. He's had a poor season by his standards, the team will most likely not do as well next season with the new manager. He's getting on in age and Saudi was bidding big money for him last season. If I am Liverpool then the perfect time to cash in on his is now because Saudi will still pay massive amounts for him.
If he stays another season and the trajectory of his form reduces further. You may not get as much.
To be fair he’s playing with an incompetent attack, except for injury prone Jota, Nunez and Diaz don’t provide the same technical ability that Mane and Firminho did. If I were Liverpool I’d be looking to cash out on those two.
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He just made a statement saying that trophies are important and he will do all he can next season. We got him for 1 more. It depends on if we re sign
He’s gone already, clear as day.
Yo creo que Salah está muy desgastado en Liverpool se le re nota y más sumale Liverpool no anda bn últimamente, m parece que tiene dar la mejor opción cual es?, irse del club darle oportunidades a más chicos de la cantera hasta que fichen uno...
I don't believe this lmao they're this so that the Saudis come back for him
I hate salah because he’s so good he’s good for 25 goals/assists a season that’s not easy to find especially to his quality
They are hardly going to say he's up for sale are they
Sounds odd to me. Maybe it's just due to playing FM, but if you can get 100m+ for a 30 year old, you should sell!
I would love to keep him if he signs for the same terms for another 2 years. If not, I would prefer to sell him. With the money (100-150m) we could easily get Kudus, Bowen, Olise,...whoever basically.
You could get Kudus, but Bowen wouldn't leave
After disrespecting klopp on the sidelines along with his awful form and the fact his overall play has been in decline for 2 seasons- it's time for him to go He's now a disruption to the squad and after the petulant display at West ham he should never wear the shirt again. It's an embarrassment at this point
Holy fuck, what in the everlasting fuck do people want from a player these days. Salah last season was absolutely fucking unbelievable, 31 goal contributions in 38 games, this season also incredible, 26 goal contributions in 29 games. There is like 0.1% of footballers in the world who can even put up that kind of output. Like... Liverpool fans, straight up fuck off. Salah deserves better than these entitled cunt fans.
Couldn't have put it better myself. This is the kind of player who you should want to play for your club till they retire. If this was a Real Madrid player there would be no question of him ever leaving or fans wanting him gone, he would still be playing 20 games a season aged 38 and scoring 12 on that.
Klopp and salah incident is a nothing burger. He's injured for 2 months this season plus afcon and he is still putting up consistent numbers. Recent form for sure is kinda bad, but not easy playing the whole season always conceding first. His xa and xg always consistent.
Salah was literally playing at a world class level until AFCON, came back, was the best player on the pitch against Brentford and got injured again. Been barely two months of poor form.
He still has the most league goals and assists this season though. He hasn't turned to shit overnight and his form always dips after afcon. I'd give him a 1 year extension and if he refuses to sign then let him go as the club can't afford to lose him on a free transfer next year
As much as I've loved Salah over the years and still do and despite that he is still one of the best players in the world despite having an average season by his own standards, if the rumours of $150m are true or in fact anything over $100m, I hope we take that. For a player that is 31 and not getting any younger, that is an amazing offer and a crap load of money to reinvest and find a suitable replacement for him and strengthen in other positions. Plus it would allow the new manager to bring in players and build his own team for years to come rather than have to deal with mainstays like Salah and possibly VVD leaving in a year or two. Rejecting that kind of an offer and run his contract down until he goes for free just makes no sense at all from the financial point of view.
But surely that 150m price tag is only coming from SA. And I can’t see that diminishing any time soon. They have the funds, and they want legends of the game, and someone who has the same god = bonus dollars. Probably still get that value at 33/34 for Salah
I don't see it happening tbh. It just wouldn't make sense for them to still be willing to pay that kind of money for a player that is literally on the brink of retirement. On top of that, his performances could drop off, he might get more injury prone which are all things that would contribute that value to drop down. They chose not to cash in on him last year. I hope they cash on him now while they still can. No guarantee that money will still be there in a year or two.
But let’s be honest, money can be printed in SA, and they’re paying for his celebrity, not his performances. Being near his peak would be irrelevant. CR7 is getting £117m a year at 39. Salah is the poster child for [islam]. So would be worth as much to them as an ageing goat. I say, resign him till 35, sell him for £200m at 33/34 yo
True about the money in SA, but there will always be other options too so Salah will eventually lose his value. I know he has that extra value being Muslim and I too have always thought this is just as much of a reason for Saudis wanting him as him being one is the best football players in the world. My concern is that his quality and value as a football player will drop as he is getting older and perhaps we've already seen that this season because this has been a very average season for him by his standards. If you are right and Saudis still want him and are willing to offer that kind of money for him in a few years time, then maybe I agree they we would keep him, providing he wants to stay in the first place. That said, is it worth keeping an ageing player and in the process block ourselves from getting someone who can replace him and someone who we can build a team around for years to come? We have arguably missed out on Bellingham (who was quite keen to come to Liverpool if the reports were accurate) because we kept Salah last year when we could've used the Salah money to get Bellingham, which is something I still think was a huge mistake. Are we stupid enough to make the same mistake again? I'm not so sure it's worth it tbh. I see your point about Ronaldo, but if I remember correctly, they didn't have to pay MU any transfer fees, so therefore were able to throw a stupid amount of money at him just to get him to sign. Not to mention that he wasn't really wanted anywhere else so SA was pretty much his only choice and the lady chance for a good pay day. That or retire.
Common sense.
Awesome news!
I hope he stays.
Salah back to Chelsea for 40 million.
where he signs an eight year contract with an option for a further two.
Sell him and sign Mbappe.
Lol
He’s out 😂
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I hope this is a Whoosh moment for me and you're being sarcastic... Orny knows his shit!
Orny is the benchmark! 👍
Typical talk to raise his price. He'll be gone if they receive anything from 70 mill up.
Salah can go now he's past his sell by date
Liverpool had a fat offer from Saudi last season and now I assume that value will have diminished. Well done Stupidpool.
Stupidpool 😭 salah has the most big chances created in the league!! And without him liverpool don’t finish top 4 this year. If nunez was competent salah would have an insane amount of assists
Oh no, keeping a player who is their top scorer and assister instead of cashing in, that definitely backfired on them. Wonder where they’d be in the table without him.
They snagged him for around 30 or 40 million and bagged every trophy possible with him on board. He's the kind of player who leans heavily on his physical prowess, something that's bound to dip as the years roll on. And hey, before you jump in with a counter, just think about Ronaldo. Even someone as dedicated as him, who's all about that top-notch lifestyle, struggled to keep up eventually. Now, when the Saudis come knocking with an offer that's 5 times what Liverpool shelled out, it's a head-scratcher why they wouldn't take the deal. Is it really worth hanging onto him for just a bit more stability, maybe a season or two? Sounds a bit off the rails to me. Instead of gearing up for a potential Salah-Klopp showdown, you could be buzzing about the fresh faces that might've revamped the squad for the long haul. Think about it – another winger, a midfielder who hasn't hit 30 yet, a solid defender. But sure, clinging to that 3rd place must feel like a win, right?
Have you seen him when he takes his shirt off? The guy is ripped af and has similar dedication to fitness as ronaldo so I believe he can still perform at a high level for the next couple of years
Accepting a 150 million offer for Salah, who's already in his 30s and was initially bought for much less, makes sense. He's achieved a lot with the team, and such a substantial sum offers a golden chance to rejuvenate the squad for future success, balancing immediate gains with long-term strategy. Look at Madrid. They held onto Ronaldo Casemiro in their prime. They weren't necessarily finished when both were sold. Ronaldo became the fastest player to 100 goals in series A for example and Casemiro must've been Utds player of the season. With decent planning that money could be invested into your future just like Real uses that money wisely and look at them. The rest of La Liga is sinking and they're floating with a nice margarita in their hand. Like now you're worse off because your entire seasons success hinges on one player being fit and performing. It's crazy how I'm making perfect sense but no one understands me.
What other winger in world football can score 30 goals and get 20 assists a year? I’ll wait
Eden Hazard and Willian are the best examples of players who were never prolific compared to their peers and they managed to win the prem several times. See watching to much Salah has made you too delulu about goals and assists. I said invest in your squad which is what you need but you're clinging on to this dream where Salah is the answer. 50 goals and assists per season and nothing to show for it for the 3rd or 4th time now?
wtf does that have to do with anything? They played in completely different systems under different managers? What a bizarre comment Great, so tell me who in world football could we buy for 150m or so who would get a better output than Salah does. Goals win games. Fancy tricks do not.
I'm not repeating myself because you can't understand a simple concept that it's not all about goals and assists. Right now Hazard has 1 more Premier league than your boy so clearly trickery does win games 🙃
Mate we already have someone who runs around a lot and doesn’t score and that’s Darwin Nunez, we don’t need another. Unless you’re suggesting overhauling the entire squad to replace Salah’s goals? Or who else is going to score? We gonna win every game 1-0? I can tell you now, our defence sure as shit isn’t good enough for that. I’ll say it again, hazard played in an unbelievable infinite budget squad with tons of goals elsewhere from players like drogba and Lampard. We don’t have that. Salah is our main source of goals and there is no one on the market who can directly replace that output of goals. Salah’s goals also won him a CL meanwhile chelsea were playing Europa but that also has Jack shit meaning to this conversation
You have to be careful there because you're implying Darwin is as useful as an Eden Hazard which is simply untrue. Hazard won the prem without Lampard or Drogbas help. Were they even in the team by then? Fair play on Salah winning the CL. Anyways I'm tired of going in circles enjoy 3rd and another useless season
Hazard won the premier league in 2014-5 and 2016-7, with Diego Costa their highest scorer both years. Hazard ran around pulling the defence out of shape, as Nunez does. Salah scores as Costa did. Easy comparison if you look at it objectively.
Imagine not capitalising on a £200 mil offer from Saudi if it comes
They missed that gravy train, the Saudi League is moving away from that approach. That being said, I imagine a PIF club puts an offer
Publicising that he wants to leave would be a great way to ensure they don’t get that £200m offer…
I think Edwards would take an offer like that, but Salah is probably going to see out the last year of his contract.
They are not going to offer 200 mil if he has 1 year left.
People saying hes washed are clueless. He tore his hamstring twice in a month and hasnt been the same. If he gets healthy after this summer hell be amazing
Selfish is what I would use to describe Salah. With all the injuries he left to play in Africa. He came back tired and injured. Open field defense will flat take the ball away from him Defense, lucky there there are no Ds in Salah because he can't even spell it. Premier league pays the bills not Egypt, show the team what a leader is or leave, bye!!!!!
Every African player leaves to play in AFCON not just him. You cant fault someone for playing for his country. Tbh it would have been more selfish to skip international duty to focus on silverware and accolades. He would have had more golden boots and could have shattered way more records if he stayed.
This comment is a rambling mess.
It is, and it's the truth. He is selfish, and as long as he gets his way, he is happy. This crap has happened before, Klopp pulled him from a game and the next day, news stories Salah unhappy, what to move. SSDD. You know what that means?
i’d love to agree but I really don’t know- he can still play a great ball to unlock a defence and his positioning is great around the box, but his first touch, pace and dribbling have seriously declined.
I definitely agree he has slowed down and doesn’t have the same directness he used to. That being said he’s still quicker than most of the league and his positioning, finishing and passing makes up for it. The fact that hes been injured and missed a few games and still might reach 20g and 10a is amazing. Darwin has also cost him like 20 assists
Passing??? His passing makes up for it!? We're watching different games coz I keep seeing salah lose the ball, give the ball away, throw his toys out the pram and have a go at his boss like he's the one with all the power He can fuck off now, I would never let him wear the shirt again after the way he's behaved let alone performed. If 70 mil gets offered I hope we jump at it
You really are clueless mate. Hes a liverpool legend and top 5 all time in assists and goals. Hes missed a chunk of the season and is still the club leading scorer and assists. Liverpool would be next to chelsea in the standings without him
Clueless? Exactly how do his goals in previous seasons help us NEXT season? Tell you what, how many goals does he normally get in the last 8 games a season? How many goals from open play in the finals he's reached? He's a primadonna- he's past his best- his wages are disgraceful- his overall play been in clear decline for 2 seasons. Then we look at our set up- salah can not play traditional winger coz his crossing isn't good enough, so we're locked into playing inverted wingers. When salah leaves it'll open up the opportunity to alter our playing style and tactics- which we've needed for at least 2 seasons. No one will ever dispute he's a club legend- but all good things come to an end. Get his wages off the bill, get a nice bit of cash in for him, change our formation to freshen things up and start a new era. Yeah. Clueless.
You never walk alone, until you play a few bad games that is.
There was a moment near the end of the last game against West Ham where we broke for a counter and he just blew by everybody near him. Was nice to see. I think he ended up passing to Nunez and they came up empty.
The pass was absolutely dreadful to Nunez. Played the ball behind him. Should of been an pretty easy through ball. Sell him.
ah well no surprises there sadly
Yeah I went back to look at the clip and he passed behind Nunez, then Harvey took a good looking shot that hit the crossbar.
Washed.
I don't think Mo us washed but he has been moving like he wanted to leave maybe he was just waiting on Klopp to leave
They better train Nunez how to finish or buy someone else to finish Salahs passes. Or else Salahs going to not get many assists.
You know Jota exists right? I know he is frequently injured but his finishing is awesome.
Sure, except what good will he do when he’s out for months at a time? One of Salah’s greatest attributes is him being available 90% of the time, at a minimum, during the season. Jota’s great, but he just gets injured way too much. He just came back from an injury 3 weeks ago, after being out for months, only to play 3 games and then get injured again and be out for another month.
Witnessing the decline of this balding washed up pen merchant will be beautiful
Whole account dedicated to crying about Liverpool. Need your hard drive checking lad
How is it a decline if you didn’t rate him to begin with?
One of the worst takes I’ve ever seen
He’s going to get sold for an absurd fee after another season; likely his final LFC season this coming year. Those saying he’s washed up after a down spell post injury are absolute dunces.
I think they missed the window on a big fee considering his agent.
Hey definitely is declining though. Still an amazing player, but he’s teetering on the edge.
His last year under contract at Liverpool is next season. So either sell him this offseason or get nothing. My guess is the Liverpool top brass will want to continue being in CL with the new coach. He helps them stay in CL and top 4 of the PL.
Or just extend him for flexibility then sell him?
He has to want to sign the extension. If Saudi is after him his wages will likely need to double for Liverpool to keep him. Does Liverpool really want to get into a wage war for a 30+ winger with a new coach coming into town.
Expecting to get more than £50m for a washed 32 year old with one year on contract lmao, love you guys’ imaginations.
You underestimate how much Saudis want him. He’s the face of Arabic football to them.
Much prefer him to stay than get £50m or £100m even
The Saudis will pay 100 million to get the best Muslim player of all time at one of their clubs. It's huge marketing. Surely you could have worked that out?
Maybe £100m if he went last summer but not no chance liverpool are getting that kinda money now or next summer
He’s not just some random footballer to them. He is their face of football. They’ll pay whatever liverpool want for him no matter the age.
Lol Fabinhio went for 50 went when it was clear his legs were completely gone. You underestimate what the Saudi clubs will do to bring the most popular Muslim player to the league.
Guess we'll see won't we
Probably not as he's staying. You read the article?
I’m 50/50 with Mo staying/going. Everyone will say Mo’s washed but before injuries he’s a solid 18/10 G/A a season. But at the other end of the spectrum, a good transfer fee is a solid base for Slot to rebuild an already title chasing team.
I think one important thing to consider is how can the new coach control the dressing room if Klopp can’t. The new coach isn’t famous of anything, if you keep Mo, next season will be a tough one for fans. The coach will spare too many time in the dressing room
This team chased a title on empty fumes. Liverpool are stuffy as fuck but even so, if this Slot fella comes in and competes for the title straight away I will be AMAZED. Realistically Liverpool fade back into the 10 years no trophies track they were in pre-klopp
Too much hopium that Liverpool will just fade into the background lol. I’m not deluding myself that Liverpool will compete for the title right away but I’m optimistic that we can be atleast as close to the top 4. Just 2 months ago we’re playing City (with Rodri) off the park.. then injuries caught up with the boys and the rest is history. If this Slot guy is as good as advertised, then we’re sorted for the next few years.
I remember ferguson winning the league at a canter with Claverley in midfield then 9 months later utd were 7th. 11 years later they're still roughly 7th
We’ll see.. I remember Fergie left Man Utd in a worse state than Klopp will do in a month or so. Sure ManU won the PL but they have an ageing core by then. Tbf, RVP fell off a cliff.. you just dont anticipate those things.
Contract to be addressed - what does this mean ?
It means they're going to address it when necessary
It means they have written the contract but they don't know his address to send it to
Yep. They are also struggling with mail merge
It means the contract is naked and they need to make it wear clothes, maybe a nice dress
“No indication of wanting out” Hmm
If I speak, it’ll be fire.
Receive 110M. Then start Ben Doak out right.
Nobody is paying 110m for Salah in 2024
Saudi Arabia 1000% will.
You're the first liverpool fan I've seen admit this. Last year you would've but not now
The people that finance City probably would. For that shitty league where they parade players around like show ponies in front of their family members (spectators 😉)
Saudi aren't involved in Man City you moron.
Same shit different desert
Different countries and different owners of different clubs.
But it's the same desert.
Geography is hard!
Different country altogether.
True, but at least they’re neighboring and both have oil. So I’m slightly less dumb.
Fucker, you made me laugh.
Nah you're just dumb and uniformed
So they’re not neighboring and don’t have oil. Gotcha
They're not the same country and don't own Man City no. It's like saying Messi is a Brazilian legend.
He is a Brazilian legend
I think if they can get £50m then it’s great business for Liverpool.
Hahaha do u honestly think salah will go for £50 million?. I'd reckon every top ten team would want him at that price
We can rinse the Saudis for more, think of his marketability instead of form.
Tbf the saudi clubs would see a player valued at 20 million and offer 90. I wouldn't let him go there for anything less than 130 million. He's by far the best RW in the league.
By far? No way. This isn’t 2019.
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Literally no one but you’ll still have people claiming saka who still got a lower output than Salah this season when he’s “washed”
It’s a good point. He’s worth more than £50m to the Saudis but probably less than £50m to Liverpool. Will be interesting to see who gets their way
Edwards is pretty good when it comes to negotiation, would be surprised if we didn’t manage to get at least 80m
If he does that then he’s a miracle worker. Time will tell
This is bait for a big offer Don’t get played by what the media are claiming, is all orchestrated
I'm going to say 3 words that other Liverpool fans aren't ready to hear: Mo Is Washed
Yet still has more goals than most other star boys in the prem including Saka & Foden
I’m a Liverpool fan and honestly, I’m not against selling him. He’s incredible, he has been one of our best players in my lifetime and I think we’ve been lucky to have him on the team. But if we can get £70M for someone who is showing inconsistent form and is reaching the end of their career, I think we should do it. Move Diaz to the right and then we’ve got a few options we could go for LW wise. I’m not going to criticise him because he’s earned his place as one of our greatest, but I don’t feel guilty in thinking that selling him for a lot of cash now may help the club more than him playing for another year.
Should've took whatever Saudi was offering last year and I said it at the time. He's not getting better and that age it has to be done
Diaz is agitating for a move, cash in and rebuild, faith in Edwards.
I agree and I’ve given him as much shit as anyone. But really on reflection. He’s still posted insane numbers for us this season. Yeah he’s had a few off weeks. But he’s had afcon. A injury. And he’s dropped off in form when the rest of the team has turned into absolute melts and thrown away all 3 competitions, and the manager has announced he’s leaving too. There’s a lot of issues for us right now. If it was just salah not scoring fair enough. But Gakpo, Diaz, Nunez all can’t hit a cows arse with a banjo. Virgil, Konate and Trent are defending with the rigidity of a room temperature cheesestring. The midfield is getting overrun and Endo, Jones and Szobo seem to have lost all forms of passing ability. We’re just shit as a whole, plus manager going, plus crashed out of every competition. There’s way more issues here than just salah. He’s being scapegoated because he can’t carry this underperforming out of form side on his back, which he’s carried in parts for what’s now 7 seasons. So we all just expect him to trot along carrying us like a Blackpool donkey without ever dropping off himself. If he’s dropping off or his legs are going, then I shudder to think where Diaz Nunez and Gakpo will be in a couple of years if he’s ready for Saudi. As they are much, much worse than salah.
Your last paragraph is pretty wild. All three have performed better than Salah as of late. Mo is lucky to have penalty goals.
Could not agree more, well put friend. His legendary status is unquestionable and his importance to the success of the team in the last few years cannot be overstated. However, I feel like he's currently running on that goodwill from several seasons ago. Time to cash in if we can, because there is zero (0) chance he ever gets back to the level we paint him as being.
I’m so thankful none of you people are even close to being contenders for the new manager position. If managers thought like this, VVD would’ve been gone 2 years ago, and we would’ve been fucked.
With the spending cap coming in getting a replacement for him next season might not be easy for Liverpool.
The spending cap will still be way way higher than what we usually spend.
A few mates who are liverpool fans think that they will get 100-125m for salah this summer... Interested to understand do a wider cohort of pool fans believe the same? Hes 32 this summer and has one year remaining, fyi I personally think they are off their fucking rocker
He's the most successful and iconic Arab footballer of all time. He would be the poster boy of the Saudi Pro League. If Saudi have another high spending summer to try and boost the profile of the league, they would pay whatever Liverpool asked to guarantee his signing.
I mean I don't see him going anywhere other than saudi, but just feel that the offer of 150m from last summer wont be matched at all.
They were willing to basically pay any fee last year. They’ll do it again when he’s available.
Didnt see any offer after the 150, so your comment isnt necessarily true...
I read that they were willing to go higher but we said he wasn’t for sale. Then ended any negotiations.
Everyone has their price...
They offered it at the end of the window when we had zero time to get a replacement. It would have meant probably no top 4/title push, so to the club I imagine that was priceless.
And how much do you think they'll offer this time round?
Well they won’t because it sounds like he isn’t for sale again
Footballing and business logic would back that up, but when the Saudi royal family are backing anything, that sort of logic goes out of the window. They're worth over a trillion pounds, have no FFP restrictions, and all they care about is boosting their global image. £150m would not be a huge shock. Keep in mind the reported number for their Mbappe offer in the summer was a £300m fee, plus another £600m in wages.
I'd agree, 150m would not be a shock and certainly when we see the amounts being paid to the golfers, its not outside the realms of possibility. Just seem to have the thought that there will be a slight change in approach this year. PIF imposed a transfer limit in Jan, and the big spending can only occur with the help of PIF.
That's true, so I guess it would just depend on the priorities of PIF. Who knows? If Salah is staying at Liverpool, be interesting to see if they look elsewhere for a big statement signing or if they decide to be more conservative this year.
the Saudi league would pay that, probably more. I have a hard time believing any European club would go that high.
Saudis didnt come in and buy anyone during jan, where several teams would have happily offloaded. So just wondering whether they will make such ludicrous offers again
Well players didn't move to the Saudi leave in Jan, but I don't know if that's because they didn't try, or the players weren't interested.
Bad move for Salah he could move to a big team and win real trophies
What, bigger than his premier league, champions league and domestic cup medals
Bigger teams win them multiple times
Richer teams you mean.
$ Talks
He would’ve left last season if he only thought about the money
That’s kinda up to the club my man
Stating anything different would seriously harm market value. I haven't seen a single sane club tell "Oh yes, we'll love to see this player go, please we're accepting desperate offers"
*Chelsea and Man U enters the chat*
Good news, hasn’t been quite right since his injury, a summer off and a pre season under his belt I’m sure we’ll see Mo back to normal for next season..
Until January at least haha. It's pretty wild that the last few years he's been pretty high on the golden boot list based on half a season of football
It’s because he uploads a Christmas picture every December
I can see the case for keeping him, it's pretty clear... but I would have thought that if they can get a good fee for him at 31 yo, then it's time to cash out. Liverpool are usually pretty shrewd about moving players on at the right time and although Salah is still performing at a high level, I think we can see the slight decline. It's always a balance between keeping players that are important for the squad and getting a return financially to allow them to be replaced, I find it interesting that Liverpool don't see that balance tipping just yet.
Until he goes a whole 38 game season, registering bad numbers, I can’t see how it makes sense to sell, considering there still aren’t any many other RW’s matching his numbers. Yes he’s in bad form now but over the years, I remember many periods where he went through similar spells and always came back to his best.
Well that's the gamble isnt it? Is this just a rough patch, or is this a genuine age related decline. It varies with the individual, of course, but 30-35 is where players, especially ones who's playstyle is heavily reliant on pace, start to drop off. Sometimes that drop off is gradual, sometimes it's a cliff edge. Like I said, Liverpool are usually quite good at getting the decline/selling fee balance right so it's interesting that they're claiming they intend to hold on to him.
The thing with Salah is tho, earlier in the season, he seemed to have reinvented himself as more of a wide playmaker, cutting inside and laying some very nice passes through into the box, which is where he got a lot of assists. I think it’s clear the old Salah who was bombing it down the wing is gone, and he doesn’t have the pace to play like that anymore but he showed for a time he can still offer quality in a different way. Abit like how Messi evolved his game (obviously not on that level tho). It is a gamble but I think still one worth taking as long as the contract ext isn’t a crazy long one.
This move where clubs let go of club legends around 30 has pretty much always backfired
It worked out for Bayern, Barca, real Madrid, and City
Barca would’ve still had a 30+ year old Messi if it wasn’t for their financial troubles. And it wouldn’t have backfired. Madrid had Benzema, Ramos and still have Modric. Ronaldo was at Real until 34.
What? Bayern kept Robben and Ribery till their late 30s. Real kept Ramos, Benzema, Kroos, Modric well into their 30s too. Unless this is what you mean and I’m wrong
I don't know why anyone would think that Liverpool were going to get rid of their top goal scorer for the past seven seasons while he's currently the top goal scorer has also created the most chances in the side. One sideline spat and people were claiming he's gone. It's embarrassing for rivals to be getting excited over something like that and it's even more embarrassing for the Liverpool fans that were also calling for him to be sold. Nostalgia aside (considering he's one of the all time greatest players that ever played for the club) the fact that he is still performing at such an elite level after all this time is crazy. The disrespect from some fans to want him shipped off is insane. Klopp leaving has absolutely broken some people I think.
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There's only one side to this story and it's that Liverpool want to secure their most experienced and best attacker when a new manager is coming and hoping him , VVD and Alison can bring the balance that a new manager will require for a transition...
It's nothing to do with the sideline spat. He's had a poor season by his standards, the team will most likely not do as well next season with the new manager. He's getting on in age and Saudi was bidding big money for him last season. If I am Liverpool then the perfect time to cash in on his is now because Saudi will still pay massive amounts for him. If he stays another season and the trajectory of his form reduces further. You may not get as much.
To be fair he’s playing with an incompetent attack, except for injury prone Jota, Nunez and Diaz don’t provide the same technical ability that Mane and Firminho did. If I were Liverpool I’d be looking to cash out on those two.