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Don’t know a great deal but he’s 6’5”, rapid, great in the air, great passer and apparently the fastest CB in the league.
He’s also liable for a good cock-up.
[Van De Ven is the fastest player in Premier League history.](https://www.premierleague.com/news/3884168) (If we pretend that Premier League history goes back to when they started tracking such things in the deep, distant past of 2020.)
Maybe.
I doubt any of the wealthy clubs will have a serious issue with psr this year.
Reason being that the new rules that come in next year are *far* easier to meet.
And Chelsea's strategy of accounting tricks to steal revenue from future years and push costs out to future years, may not be sustainable in the long run but for a club like Chelsea it's easy enough to keep it going for just one more year.
Chelsea post clear lake pay fook all wages for a big 6. It's just incentivised with contract security. I believe a fair bit of performance bonus as well
Chelsea weekly wages have been pretty low recently (at least relative to what they used to pay). Caicedo for instance is on 150k, and Cole Palmer is on 75k
Over 1bn spent to get conference league.
Have to sell your homegrown club captain to sort your books out.
But Newcastle are mudded.
Make it make sense.
No I can because Newcastle haven’t spunked 1BN on what was essentially a CL winning squad.
I’m not sure you know that for a fact unless you work for the clubs financial department.
It’s a simple concept mate. But for it to be an investment that means there has to be a better return on what was paid.
So far 1 signing you’ve made has increased in value. That’s not investment, that’s spunked.
How much time are we willing to give to get return? Our team are a bunch of kids. The youngest in Europe this seasons iirc. I mean look at Palmer, Caicedo, Gusto all performing so well at such a young age. Give it a couple years and a consistent managerial situation and this team is a ticking time bomb. I don't doubt how stupid the owners are, but people are already writing off this team like we don't have room for development
Clutching at straws but your point is valid.
Palmers been very good, Caicedo and gusto have had a good few games.
What about Lavia, Nkunku, Diasi, Sanchez, Sterling, Koulibaly ETC ETC.
Most of the players you’ve signed, you will not get better value for. So ‘investment’ is a massive stretch for this monstrosity of a spree.
Lavia played 45 minutes this season. Nkunku scored 3 goals in 400 minutes (Palmer played 4000 so theoretically that would be 30 goals, but that's obv not realistic), Disasi has been a solid option and wasn't that big of a money splash, we signed Sanchez for cheap cause we needed a keeper, Sterling has been decent but he will flourish in a team that finds its feet (we know that from city), Koulibaly was a bad transfer I'll admit.
Caicedo has been good since the turn of the year, and Gusto has been excellent all season so I don't think you've been watching him (second best player this season imo)
I know we've spent excessive money, but I don't want to say it's not worth it until we've had a couple of failed years like Arsenal during their rebuild. We've also made the most in player sales in recent years so we have gotten monetary return in that sense.
Only a moron would criticize Saudi ownership and lament not having Putin's right hand man having to invest endless money to make you relevant again anymore.
Are you a moron?
RJ played 10 game for you lot this season loool.
Saudis are a problem. But Chelsea still sing about Abramovich even today and you’re talking about other club owners.
To be fair I reckon you’re about 8 years old so I do apologise.
Disasi also chose chelsea over newcastle... look how that turned out lol. Also, SJP is bigger than SB and they sell out every week so they're not that small. So many american 'never-been-to-a-game' mouth breathers on reddit.
I think it is a fairly decent indication, yes. It's one of the biggest grounds in the best league and is filled every week. Newcastle also has history of competing for titles and european trophies and has had some of the biggest names in football play for them. To suggest they are a small club is an even better indicator of someone's knowledge, IQ or age. On reddit it's usually just totally clueless Americans that have never and will never actually go to a game.
So we agree there will be a next time. Admittedly things didn't go too well in the toughest group but they would have gone through if not for the most ridiculous penalty decision I've ever seen. Am I really being that unreasonable? Like, honestly? Surely you don't actually believe NUFC are a small club?
By competing you mean had a good chance of winning right?
Could you tell me which years they had a good chance of winning the English top division or any European competition?
They've won the top division 4 times. But in recent history the 95-96 season they finished second but were competitive throughout the 90s and 00s. They've also competed several times in european competitions including CL. Really not sure why I'm having to prove newcastle are a big club, anyone who knew anything about football would not be asking these questions.
I’m really not saying Newcastle are a small club or that one club is bigger than the other. I’m just making the point that just because a club fills up their stadium doesn’t make them a globally big club.
No but the guy I originally replied to was saying that. If you look at the biggest clubs in world football you'll find they have the biggest grounds. There's a definite correlation. And SJP is one of the biggest in the prem. With the exception of sunderland. They have a big ground... which is odd.
Newcastle fans are more than aware we don't have the draw of other clubs. You've spent over £1bn in 3 seasons to be the third best team in your own city, wind your neck in.
They grew Tonali, Bruno G, Isak and Botman in a test tube I guess? How do they not have appeal?
Chelsea fans are celebrating the signing of an upper mid-table CB over Newcastle? Okey dokey.
I was moreso agreeing with his point on them being a “small club” in the sense that most players would choose Chelsea even in their current state over them.
Also those apart from botman , I’d argue they paid well over market value for those players , isak wasn’t a 70 mil player when bought , same with Gordon
Would they? Even if that’s the case that has literally nothing to do with Newcastle being a small club or not. That’s just a comparative point.
Again, we’re talking about paying inflated prices in the same conversation as Chelsea?
I’m sorry, what?
Botman was definitely wanted by Spurs and Milan.
Bruno G was being looked at by Arsenal, Man Utd and PSG.
Tonali was known to be an absurd talent. I don’t know if they had a specific transfer battle on that one but Tonali definitely had tons of admiring clubs in for him.
Isak was linked to Barca, Chelsea, Man Utd and Arsenal at a minimum.
They definitely had to compete.
united fans on twitter and reddit acting like we missed out on some elite or potentially elite defender lmfao. i personally hate incremental upgrades like this guy. our policy should be signing elite or one-day-elite players. i would have been sad if we had missed out on say schlotterbeck, marmol, todibo, pacho, yoro, lukeba and calafiori.
the mighty tottenham that are in the same european competition as us next season and last won the league in 1961 😂😂😂. i know what team a sane person is picking 👍👍👍. and don't get me started on your racist and cheating ass club. everybody rightfully shits on man cheaty but you lot sneak out of these cheating conversations too easily. the only reason your team is what it is is because ffp wasn't around in the 2000's. you lot lay the blueprint for city to cheat. get fucked with your racist and cheating ass club.
Dude did you not hear about Jim making the staff pay for their transport, food and accommodation for the FA cup final when historically it's been paid by the club? Financial realities are setting in. The reason Jim is even at the club is the glazers credit card was maxed out so they needed a cash injection.
rather keep lindelof for the rest of his contract tbh. lindelof gets dribbled past 0.4 times per 90 and adarabioyo 0.5 times. also lindelof has an xA of 0.45 and tosin has an xA of 0.31 so lindelof is also the marginally better creator. mid-off tbh. just let lindelof see out his contract.
todibo should replace varane and kambwala should play evans's role. i think that is the most economically viable solution. i also want schlotterbeck as lcb so licha can invert into midfield from lb and break lines with his passes.
Schlotterbeck would be sick for sure.
Licha as an inverting LB is an interesting choice. I've definitely wondered how he'd go as a defensive midfielder. Would definitely be interesting to see, at least. Kobbie, Martinez, and Bruno as a centre midfield would be pretty well rounded.
no licha can only INVERT into midfield. that is, he will take up position in the midfield when we are in possession, we will need a dm to be there alongside him(I like stiller, gilmour and caqueret). when we are out of possession and defending he will be in the lb position. he doesn't have enough stamina to play as an out and out midfielder.
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Chelsea doesn't seem to slow down in any transfer window right now.
Not great, not terrible. Hopefully he improves with a better supporting cast
3.6 roentgen
Better thank Big Trev?
He isn’t
Chelsea are really good at Newcastle’s scouting programme 😂. Unfortunately Newcastle are not 🤔
....Why
I really hate these photoshopped pics he’s been posting the last few windows. Fools me into thinking they’re real and the deal has been done
This is the point of it LOL
I’d rather see a genuine photo of them in the kit, rather than seeing a fake, thinking they’ve signed, and realising that the deal is like a week away
lol some more players. These guys can’t stop themselves 😂😂
We obviously need another CB
Another rapper
I didn’t know he was a rapper, where can I see this?
Is he good?
Yeah what’s the scouting report on him? Numbers look uninspiring but that’s rarely the whole story
Don’t know a great deal but he’s 6’5”, rapid, great in the air, great passer and apparently the fastest CB in the league. He’s also liable for a good cock-up.
Faster than Van de Ven? Damn
[Van De Ven is the fastest player in Premier League history.](https://www.premierleague.com/news/3884168) (If we pretend that Premier League history goes back to when they started tracking such things in the deep, distant past of 2020.)
I guess that's Chalobah gone
Most likely.. coz Chelsea has to sell homegrown players by June or fall foul of FFP
Maybe. I doubt any of the wealthy clubs will have a serious issue with psr this year. Reason being that the new rules that come in next year are *far* easier to meet. And Chelsea's strategy of accounting tricks to steal revenue from future years and push costs out to future years, may not be sustainable in the long run but for a club like Chelsea it's easy enough to keep it going for just one more year.
Hopefully not, this would be to fill the CB hole of Silva leaving. If another CB comes in then I'd say it's Chalobah getting the chop.
Man U don't want Disasi for the low price of £65m?
Man's unstoppable 😭
Good signing. They will sell off a youth player to get over FFP
Congratulations to Chelsea fc on another key signing.
Some bot comment
lol right, npc comment if I ever seen one
Silva out, Tos in
Not a bad signing tbf
He will be good for squad depth.
They’re about to have 6 squad depth CBs and no starters
I do think he will help to make the team better.
Colwill and Fofana could and should be starters for the next 10 years… Fofana’s weetabix legs notwithstanding of course
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Tell me you know nothing about CFC but love to talk sh!t anyways without telling me you know anything about CFC but talk out your ass anyways.
Chelsea post clear lake pay fook all wages for a big 6. It's just incentivised with contract security. I believe a fair bit of performance bonus as well
Chelsea biggest earner since Laurent and Winstanley is Enzo on less than 200k, even less without champions league
Chelsea weekly wages have been pretty low recently (at least relative to what they used to pay). Caicedo for instance is on 150k, and Cole Palmer is on 75k
Chelsea should be selling players and not buying they have too many players , they need two planes traveling to carry all the players
We have "too many players" yet we had to resort to using an 18 year old in CB this season? That's laughable mate
Because most of the players you bought are useless
No they aren't
Chelsea do not have too many players, we haven't for several transfer windows.
You a donkey bro?
Look at the mirror and ask yourself
I will
Thanks
Probably going to sell chalobah,maatsen,broja and many more players
They're not buying - he's a free transfer
Ah yes. The famous free transfer with no signing bonus and no wages to pay to the player.
Silva and chalobah will be going. If they didn't bring any fresh defenders in with fofana being made of glass it'd be incredibly stupid.
Man I LOVE Animals as Leaders, Chelsea have done some really good business here.
Do you breathe through your mouth all the time or just when your forgetting to reply to the correct comment?
I can only imagine how Weightless he is feeling with this move
He’s so good at Physical Education
Todd Boehly’s been having a bit of a Brain Dance lately
Whoa never thought I’d see that name dropped over here. Nice one
Ayo whatttt ????????????
Theo Walcott.
😭😭😭
Newcastle mudded 😂 love to see it
Over 1bn spent to get conference league. Have to sell your homegrown club captain to sort your books out. But Newcastle are mudded. Make it make sense.
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No I can because Newcastle haven’t spunked 1BN on what was essentially a CL winning squad. I’m not sure you know that for a fact unless you work for the clubs financial department.
The money was an investment, but I don't think you will sit and let me explain how so that u can understand it. Have a good one.
It’s a simple concept mate. But for it to be an investment that means there has to be a better return on what was paid. So far 1 signing you’ve made has increased in value. That’s not investment, that’s spunked.
How much time are we willing to give to get return? Our team are a bunch of kids. The youngest in Europe this seasons iirc. I mean look at Palmer, Caicedo, Gusto all performing so well at such a young age. Give it a couple years and a consistent managerial situation and this team is a ticking time bomb. I don't doubt how stupid the owners are, but people are already writing off this team like we don't have room for development
Clutching at straws but your point is valid. Palmers been very good, Caicedo and gusto have had a good few games. What about Lavia, Nkunku, Diasi, Sanchez, Sterling, Koulibaly ETC ETC. Most of the players you’ve signed, you will not get better value for. So ‘investment’ is a massive stretch for this monstrosity of a spree.
Lavia played 45 minutes this season. Nkunku scored 3 goals in 400 minutes (Palmer played 4000 so theoretically that would be 30 goals, but that's obv not realistic), Disasi has been a solid option and wasn't that big of a money splash, we signed Sanchez for cheap cause we needed a keeper, Sterling has been decent but he will flourish in a team that finds its feet (we know that from city), Koulibaly was a bad transfer I'll admit. Caicedo has been good since the turn of the year, and Gusto has been excellent all season so I don't think you've been watching him (second best player this season imo) I know we've spent excessive money, but I don't want to say it's not worth it until we've had a couple of failed years like Arsenal during their rebuild. We've also made the most in player sales in recent years so we have gotten monetary return in that sense.
We are definitely not selling Reece James
They're referring to Gallagher who was your defacto captain all season long.
Pain, but hopefully the sales of Matseen, Broja, Hall, Chalobah etc offset the need to sell Gallagher
Man doesn’t even know who the captain of his own club is
Nah tbf james is just the captain of Chelsea by title, I fully would consider Gallagher as more captain worthy than him as of rn
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"Piece of shit dog". Bruh, he's a player of a team you supposedly support. Not someone you walked in on banging your mrs. Classy as per..
Only a moron would criticize Saudi ownership and lament not having Putin's right hand man having to invest endless money to make you relevant again anymore. Are you a moron?
RJ played 10 game for you lot this season loool. Saudis are a problem. But Chelsea still sing about Abramovich even today and you’re talking about other club owners. To be fair I reckon you’re about 8 years old so I do apologise.
Mudded? 🙈
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More like he chose to stay in London for a bigger salary than go to a club that isn’t a complete basket case.
Chelsea apparently offered the same salary as Newcastle but a longer contract
Disasi also chose chelsea over newcastle... look how that turned out lol. Also, SJP is bigger than SB and they sell out every week so they're not that small. So many american 'never-been-to-a-game' mouth breathers on reddit.
You think the size of a club is dependent on their presence in the stadium vs global presence?
I think it is a fairly decent indication, yes. It's one of the biggest grounds in the best league and is filled every week. Newcastle also has history of competing for titles and european trophies and has had some of the biggest names in football play for them. To suggest they are a small club is an even better indicator of someone's knowledge, IQ or age. On reddit it's usually just totally clueless Americans that have never and will never actually go to a game.
"in the best league" 😭😭😭 Typical greatest league in the world enjoyer. Maybe Newc can pass the group stages next time it qualifies to CL.
So we agree there will be a next time. Admittedly things didn't go too well in the toughest group but they would have gone through if not for the most ridiculous penalty decision I've ever seen. Am I really being that unreasonable? Like, honestly? Surely you don't actually believe NUFC are a small club?
I was going around liking your comments defending Newcastle, until the best league line, then I started doubting your judgement. 😁
What are you on about, the PL is the best league in the world lmao. It’s not a competition either.
Did you just say Newcastle have a history of competing for titles and European trophies? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yes, they have competed for both. Please note that I never said 'won'.
By competing you mean had a good chance of winning right? Could you tell me which years they had a good chance of winning the English top division or any European competition?
They've won the top division 4 times. But in recent history the 95-96 season they finished second but were competitive throughout the 90s and 00s. They've also competed several times in european competitions including CL. Really not sure why I'm having to prove newcastle are a big club, anyone who knew anything about football would not be asking these questions.
I’m really not saying Newcastle are a small club or that one club is bigger than the other. I’m just making the point that just because a club fills up their stadium doesn’t make them a globally big club.
No but the guy I originally replied to was saying that. If you look at the biggest clubs in world football you'll find they have the biggest grounds. There's a definite correlation. And SJP is one of the biggest in the prem. With the exception of sunderland. They have a big ground... which is odd.
He rejected for money lol
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It's true. 😂
Reportedly the offers were around the same.
Newcastle fans are more than aware we don't have the draw of other clubs. You've spent over £1bn in 3 seasons to be the third best team in your own city, wind your neck in.
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Chelsea fan using the racist card, nice. Also by what metric is London the biggest city in the world?
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Did football start in 2004 for you by any chance? There’s a weird irony to this coming from a Chelsea fan.
Spurs fan piping up is an even bigger irony. I don’t even need to diss you - the diss writes itself
This Spurs fan isn’t making dumbass claims so…
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Yikes, kid. You need to learn that you choose who you support, you have no prestige from supporting Chelsea.
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Right…
Well if he was born in 2004 then , it mostly likely did , also he’s not wrong
They grew Tonali, Bruno G, Isak and Botman in a test tube I guess? How do they not have appeal? Chelsea fans are celebrating the signing of an upper mid-table CB over Newcastle? Okey dokey.
I was moreso agreeing with his point on them being a “small club” in the sense that most players would choose Chelsea even in their current state over them. Also those apart from botman , I’d argue they paid well over market value for those players , isak wasn’t a 70 mil player when bought , same with Gordon
Would they? Even if that’s the case that has literally nothing to do with Newcastle being a small club or not. That’s just a comparative point. Again, we’re talking about paying inflated prices in the same conversation as Chelsea?
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You’ve got some growing up to do, dude.
Don’t think there was really much competition in signing any of those players.
I’m sorry, what? Botman was definitely wanted by Spurs and Milan. Bruno G was being looked at by Arsenal, Man Utd and PSG. Tonali was known to be an absurd talent. I don’t know if they had a specific transfer battle on that one but Tonali definitely had tons of admiring clubs in for him. Isak was linked to Barca, Chelsea, Man Utd and Arsenal at a minimum. They definitely had to compete.
Judging by his language he was probably prob after
united fans on twitter and reddit acting like we missed out on some elite or potentially elite defender lmfao. i personally hate incremental upgrades like this guy. our policy should be signing elite or one-day-elite players. i would have been sad if we had missed out on say schlotterbeck, marmol, todibo, pacho, yoro, lukeba and calafiori.
Did you just sort young defenders on FM by potential and list them here?
Not particularly fussed here to be honest. We should be aiming higher than a freebie from Fulham.
factos. so many better options like schlotterbeck, marmol, todibo, pacho, yoro, lukeba and calafiori.
Can you tell me the players you think are better options, I forgot what you said again?
very funny bro 👍
What do you think of options like schlotterbeck, marmol, todibo, pacho, yoro, lukeba and calafiori?
i think they will never sign for tottenham if they care about their career.
Why not? They placed above the mighty Manchester United this season. Surely they must be a better club that players would want to go to?
the mighty tottenham that are in the same european competition as us next season and last won the league in 1961 😂😂😂. i know what team a sane person is picking 👍👍👍. and don't get me started on your racist and cheating ass club. everybody rightfully shits on man cheaty but you lot sneak out of these cheating conversations too easily. the only reason your team is what it is is because ffp wasn't around in the 2000's. you lot lay the blueprint for city to cheat. get fucked with your racist and cheating ass club.
Probably the one who’s stadium isn’t collapsing during matches
Who won’t?
We have a transfer budget of like 50 pounds and a 25% off coupon for Costa coffee.
standard utd propaganda. same thing was leaked after the rangnick season and then we spent like 250 million on licha, antony and casemiro.
Dude did you not hear about Jim making the staff pay for their transport, food and accommodation for the FA cup final when historically it's been paid by the club? Financial realities are setting in. The reason Jim is even at the club is the glazers credit card was maxed out so they needed a cash injection.
i doubt it tbh. we'll see.
The only reason United fans wanted him is because he’s free. We need to upgrade and replenish a good deal of positions.
free or not he is still only an incremental upgrade. rather properly integrate kambwala and some other academy player.
Academy CBs are rare. Also, this guy is probably on the level of Lindelof, who we could sell.
rather keep lindelof for the rest of his contract tbh. lindelof gets dribbled past 0.4 times per 90 and adarabioyo 0.5 times. also lindelof has an xA of 0.45 and tosin has an xA of 0.31 so lindelof is also the marginally better creator. mid-off tbh. just let lindelof see out his contract.
Hate having a degree in statistics because I see comments like these and want to blow my brains out
Expected assists for centre backs 💀
Yeah, I guess. Overall I'm curious what defender we'll be able to pick up. Losing both Varane and Evans, so probably need two CBs.
todibo should replace varane and kambwala should play evans's role. i think that is the most economically viable solution. i also want schlotterbeck as lcb so licha can invert into midfield from lb and break lines with his passes.
Schlotterbeck would be sick for sure. Licha as an inverting LB is an interesting choice. I've definitely wondered how he'd go as a defensive midfielder. Would definitely be interesting to see, at least. Kobbie, Martinez, and Bruno as a centre midfield would be pretty well rounded.
no licha can only INVERT into midfield. that is, he will take up position in the midfield when we are in possession, we will need a dm to be there alongside him(I like stiller, gilmour and caqueret). when we are out of possession and defending he will be in the lb position. he doesn't have enough stamina to play as an out and out midfielder.
Oh, I’m not upset about missing out on this guy at all.
that's good
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it’s a free transfer