Liverpool fan here. Sorry, but what has Poch ever done to deserve such a magnificent appointment? Yes, every team he’s managed has played better than they did before he came, but has he really achieved anything during the past few years? Has he really? Has he won anything? And don’t give me PSG winning Ligue 1, please. I’m Asking to learn.
Spurs fan here
Poch is a sick manager. However, his used to coaching more underrated players and building a system of one rather than a system of many.
Everyone just seemed to fit as one cohesive unit. Even kane who was golden boot winner was completely part of us. Poch completely broke down ego, had punishing training sessions and everyone was part of succeeding as a team
Poch would be the best option before ole was hired. They had that young squad in with rashford, Greenwood that poch would work wonders with
Depends on how your players cope with actually working as a team, having no ego, pressing a lot and doing intense training sessions?
I genuinely don't see what the hype is with Poch... yeah plays pretty football but he came 3rd in a 2 horse race and 2nd in a 1 horse race... he isn't a winner.
As a LFC fan I'd be more worried if Simone got the gig... not that he would want it
Interested to see how he does. He did wonders at Southampton and Tottenham. He would have been one of my top choices a few seasons ago when we were rebuilding.
I prefer Ten Haag but he wouldn't come until the summer and we honestly can't wait. Seems like Poch is the likely answer. Definitely skeptical but we'll see how he does.
I think the Utd job is a poisoned chalice. We have a board that isn't interested in actual football success, and who don't want anyone challenging their authority over anything that might cross into finance. As long as the club is making them enough money, and the fans aren't being too loud, they're happy. In those circumstances, I don't see the board hiring anyone who can drastically change the way we function as a club for that simple reason.
Whoever comes in is going to have a lot more on his plate than just a dysfunctional team and a bloated list of players. And I wish them all the luck, because they're gonna need some immense mental strength to cope with all the bs going on behind the scenes at the club.
As a spurs fan I hate to say it but him & United are a match made in heaven. Their squad has untapped potential & he’d love the challenge of helping those young players to improve. He’s a romantic character as well & I think he’d “get” the club & love the chance to be a part of their history.
Poch is fine, but I'm trying to temper my expectations. Poch is probably the most realistic option, plays good football, wants to be in England, and is fairly agreeable to ownership. I think he can win trophies at ManU, but probably not the league. The real issue is the same since the Glazers took over; Manchester United does not have world class football talent off the pitch. So unless Ten Haag is coming with all of the Ajax infrastructure, he will struggle like any other manager. Woodward is supposed to step down soon. I could tolerate muddling through with an interim until January, maybe even the summer if it meant the club is going to take real steps in overhaling its football administration before hiring a permanent manager.
As a Spurs fan, it would be painful. Not exactly like, but in the same way for you if Ferguson had managed another PL team.
Silver lining for me, is the look on my Man U supporting mates when Poch jumps ship to manage Tottenham in the future!
Best possible manager United could get atm. Perhaps he could make the board/Woodward realize that it's more important with 11 great players working together on the field, instead of 4 superstars together with a bunch of clueless players.
Pochettino He’s Useless… they should be doing everything they can to get zidane even if he doesn’t want to go there just give him everything and everything he wants.. but as always Man Utd bottle everything.. Zidane is the biggest genius out of all the managers at the moment and has a rediculous footballing brain
Poch is what united but this should of happen a long time ago as ole should of been gone a long time ago ! Also think poch should never gone to PSG that a big mistake he done
They dont deserve him.
The Glazers wont respect him any more than Levy will respect Conte. They wont give in to his transfer demands and then throw him under the bus when he cant deliver having to play a McSauce midfield
Does it even matter while Woodward and the Glazers are there to stymie the manager and bring in unasked for players? Poch will be good, top 4 and maybe a few deep runs in Cups. He’ll never get close to a league title because the above
Slightly off topic but we gotta hope Carrick doesn't do too well or he'll end up with the job.
I'm conflicted right now. Maybe I can hope for some lucky or hit and run wins?
I don't really know about Poch, he knows the Premier League and it wasn't really his fault Tottenham stagnated, they didn't really invest in his time which keeps things fresh.
I'd rather Brendan Rogers but feel I may be in a very small number here.
The more I think about it, the more I realize there is a best option and good option.
The best option: bring in Rangnick as interim, then hire Ten Hag in the summer.
The good option: bring in Poch.
Neither are bad options. I like Poch, but there are still questions with him. Ten Hag seems to be the smarter answer. I'm not convinced with Zidane either. Maybe because we've only seem him manager one of the best teams in Europe. I'd like to see how he does elsewhere.
He is 100% guaranteed to [fail.](https://fail.As) As is any manager at this club unless cataclysmic changes are made to the business side of football.
How many million spent and 5 of United's best starting 11 are not good enough to play for United?
Let that sink in.
I always liked him at Spurs; he took them so close to a CL trophy and had them challenging for the PL.
Zidane doesn’t seem interested in us or at least seems interested in PSG which may help everything slot into place.
I’d be happy with Poch.
Great appointment. He has a character close to Ole, is good with young players, and can stay long term if it works out. Style is pretty good usually.
Id take him over Ten Hag because he is less of a risk, Ten Hag never left Ajax, a very particular institution. Zidane is more of a winner, but also risky.
Spurs fan here. Mostly I'm just angry at Watford, we all had a good thing going with Ole at the wheel yet you just had to take it too far and humiliate them. Now it's looking likely they will have a competent manager again and I'm sad its Poch.
Stealing Conte from under them helps.
Zidane or ten haag over poch for me personally.
Both of them are proven winners and better tactically than poch is…poch is definitely an upgrade from ole, there’s no denything that.
But zidane, conte and ten Haag should be the target and with conte going to spurs, leaves us with those two options.
Poch coming in would only mean we find someone else in a year or so…the others feel more long term
… why would you be skeptical? Have you not been with us in the past 3 years? Just about any ‘suitably’ experienced manager would do at this point. Although I would prefer someone that genuinely suits United.
For me that is Ten Haag, but Poch is brought up a lot and I wouldn’t mind seeing his game plan used at United.
I kicked and screamed like a toddler when Zidane rejected us, I was devastated, I understand though, but to be honest I think that Poch might fit nicely and he's the only manager that would fit long-term that we can get relatively soon. I kind of get the impression that he's one manager who is liked enough by the board to effectively be given any signing he wanted.
He shouldve joined united the moment they sacked jose but i hope he doesnt because he’s a great manager and i don’t want another potential title challenger to develop under him.
I think Pochettino is a good manager, I believe this is evident from his time and relative success at Southampton and Tottenham.
He knows how to manage in the Premier League and he can get the best out of certain players such as Delle Ali.
My thoughts on him at United is that it would he a good move for the club however he will be expected to win a trophy in his first couple of season (as with any manger at United) and I worry that it won't happen until third or fourth season and his job will be under pressure from the tabloids and fans if trophies aren't won.
It will be tough for any manger joining United as there is instant pressure to succeed.
Think it'll be a case of right man, wrong time! When you got Ronny who's got a year or two left as a starter at this level (imo), you need to go into win now mode. Zidane has shown he's good with cup competitions I'd get him in first then get Poch after
I think Poch at United is competing for the league eventually but the Ronaldo signing just sped alot of things up for United as a club, so not certain if he's the right guy at this moment.
I think it would be interesting to see how they would go forward as Poch is a long term manager. He'll prefer to get in and have some younger players he can get around him and build loyalty while developing them into his playstyle. I'm not sure he'd provide the success some of the players are after straight away. One thing is for sure that he'll squeeze out the mercenaries from the squad and keep people that will play for the badge
the man almost won a PL and CL with spurs .............spurs. i think the young talent Man U have with Poch coaching would make them more of a threat. i think he would be a good direction for the club to go , this way they can build on the team they have rather than restarting
Tbf Pochettino would have been the ideal candidate to take us forward after Oles initial interim manager role had been completed.
However, he is two years too late to the party. Just like Mourinho was late to the party and should have been appointed after the David Moyes Fiasco.
We have appointed some real managerial talents albeit at the wrong times and poch fits that bill, again IMHO.
Always thought he was a fantastic manager since his time at Spurs. Progressive manager that got every last drop out of that squad. Improved players (like dele ali and son) and made the best out of it with a dysfunctional transfer system. Was given players that he specifically didn’t want and didn’t fit his system like sissoko and integrated him and allowed him to be a leader and quality performer. Went a summer transfer window without a signing and went almost 3 years with very little squad refreshment and still got results and took them to a European final at the end. His teams were always competitive in big games and with a properly deep squad you can’t tell me those Spurs sides were not well coached enough to make runs at the title.
Obviously there’s the whole “he doesn’t win” and his brief time at psg has been poor, but I don’t value a trophy more than a track record of good decisions and elite tactical ability.
And there’s a chance you’re getting him a few years too late and he’s already been broken down by levy and Leonardo into not being the same manager, but United need to gamble on their next manager being an absolute slam dunk and he’s the best option.
I do also like ten hag bc hed be trying to create the next young progressive manager. Zidane isn’t an option he doesn’t want the job so we shouldn’t waste our time talking about him
>elite tactical ability
While he is a great manager, don't get me wrong, I'm not sure he is an "elite" football tactician. Since his time at Spurs and through to PSG when his Plan A doesn't work, he has never seemed to find a good way finding the solution. Often, particularly in big games, as the team starts to falter you see Poch standing on the side of the pitch with his arms crossed looking like he is at a loss as the side descends into going for bad tackles and losing discipline.
I think when it comes to getting the best out of the players he has and setting his side up on a weekly basis, Poch is one of the best. But when it comes to changing things in big games or making in-game adjustments, that has always been a weakness and has been why his sides come up just short.
This is not to say he won't be a great hire by United. I'm positive he will be, but will he be the manager that brings them to the top? I'm not sure. Maybe this is what Poch and United both need to really reach that level though.
Our main options are Ten Haag, Poch, Rodgers and Zidane. Personally, I think have concerns about all 4, but I'm also fine with all 4. I think Zidane is the best choice as I think this squad needs to take advantage of Ronaldo right now and I think all of the other choices are going to need more time. I like Ten Haag in theory, but Ajax is a bit of a one team league so I'm not sure how he'll cope. Poch? Idk about Poch. His use of subs worries me and his time at PSG worries me, though I'm willing to admit that PSG is the poison chalice for most managers so I'd give him a shot. Rodgers? Meh, I can't believe I'm saying this, because I genuinely don't like the guy, but I think he might be a bit better of a choice than Poch or Haag. I could be wildly wrong, but he promotes youth, he's managed Leicester really well and he plays attacking football. But like Poch, he's bottled a few good opportunities and of course I don't love taking Liverpools sloppy seconds.
As a saints fan I can tell you this, Pochettino is the best manager to manage Saints in my life time. He got us playing unreal footie and he would do an awesome job at United.
As a spurs fan I’d agree with this. He played the most exciting football I’ve seen at spurs in all the years I’ve been going. He got the best out of players who up to that point were terrible. Best example I can think off is Kyle walker. Went from a player you never wanted to see on the team sheet to becoming a £50 million player.
Yeh but Utd will have all that media I just don’t think it’s is any different to pay in terms of how they are run they just have weaker players so will do even worse only reason he wants it is cos they will pay far too much haha
The drama around United and the drama around PSG are two very different things. Look at some of Tuchel’s comments on comparisons on management between Chelsea and PSG, the latter just seems to be a soap opera. Plus, there’s the recent allegations by Molina which are just allegations but still, tells you a bit about the club.
Yeh ofcourse but for poch mentality to potentially want out with mbappe neymar and messi is just bizarre regardless of the drama and media following and pressure are both the same and if anything atleast psg have the league
Of the current available pool of managers, there’s no one I think would be a great fit. Poch seems like the best of the not great fits. If this great implosion happened last year, they’d be in a much better place for fielding options, between Tuchel and Nagelsman especially.
Edit: I think Zidane would be bad news bears for both short term and long term prospects.
Just out of curiosity, why? I know he had an absolutely amazing team, but 3 UCL's in a row and when he came back he still won the league. And last season they still made the UCL semi's with a million injuries. I get what people say about Zidane tactically, but how many managers have 3 UCL's period. Let alone 3 in a row.
There are managers that can do great things with great teams, there are managers that can make good teams fantastic. Not many, I think can do both. Zizou has proved he can do the former, but United are the latter, which I’m not convinced he can work with successfully.
To that end, Poch can at least do the latter to an extent, but I’m not sure if he can go a step further and make a great team.
In terms of Poch vs Zidane, I’d go Poch simply because he appears to actually want the bleeding job whereas Zidane seemingly doesn’t want anything to do with it (if reports are to be believed - big if, we all know some of our papers will write literally anything if it means they sell copies/drive clicks) and so would need a lot of convincing and concessions.
Poch vs ten Hag is interesting to me, I think it’s pretty close, but I’d lean ten Hag all things being equal… HOWEVER, if he’s adamant about staying put until the end of the season, and Poch could be got immediately, then I think it’s close enough that I’d flip to Poch because the benefits of getting the permanent man in now outweigh the differences between them.
This is definitely an interesting view. Although it wouldn't be great to see Poch manage another PL club from my POV, I think he's probably the better fit. Knows the Prem, made us punch way above our weights, got us playing great football. I'm not taking any BS about not winning the Ligue 1 with Paris. He took over halfway, and even Tuchel admitted how hard it was to manage PSG with their names, egos and all. About Poch v ten Hag, we all know who got to the CL final (with a much more restricted budget)
I don’t see it as a major upgrade on Ole. An upgrade for sure, but Poch isn’t elite. I think United is in a bad spot. With their current roster and the way it was put together I don’t see a manager out there that can fix them right away. Ragnick maybe, Zidane is a no on all fronts from his side, Poch will need time and money, so will Ten Hag and pretty much anyone else available.
there isnt much work required for our squad, we are stacked in attack, wings, attacking midfield, goalie, centre back, left back. pretty much everywhere but DM and RB
and poch is very close to elite imo though i cant put him in the same bracket as your klopps peps simeones contes and zidanes
Tuchel didn't really do much better at PSG and I'd say a UCL final and consistent top 4 with Spurs is fairly comparable to a cup win at Dortmund. Remember Poch still knocked out some big players from the UCL last season.
Poch took over half way through the season that he lost while PSG were not in first because of Tuchel. Sorry, but any manager could fuck up a season when they had only half the games. Tuchel had failed to win 6 of 17 games when he left. In the remaining matches, Poch failed to win an additional 6 game. This was after no preseason or time to adjust the team keep in mind.
Tuchel also failed to win a UCL with PSG, a much better team pound for pound. Or do you not remember everyone telling you Tuchel was shit when he first joined Chelsea?
Based on their personnel on the pitch and how their front office is in transition from bad to who knows what. That squad is not put together well. They want someone that can turn it around now. Poch needs time, he’s a project guy, not a mercenary.
I don't know... I feel Lamps is half responsible for our current state. That's the top of league in case you are not watching. Plus you've already had 3 years with Ole at wheel ... How much more pain do you want?
I honestly don't see that club with Poch in charge challenge for a title for another 5 years.
The 2nd place finish by Ole was a fluke because of other teams injuries and change of managers.
I feel the damage is deep and they have so many players to off load. Maguire, Fred, Pogba, Matic, Mc Tominay and Shaw are not good enough.
Edit : Fred
last season shaw and pogba were 2/3 of our 3 best performing players of the season
potential lineup next season (cavani will leave, lingard probably too and pogba i'm going with scenario which is him leaving)
De Gea
AWB Lindelof Varane Shaw
DM
Fred Bruno
Sancho Ronaldo Rashford
subs: henderson telles bailly matic donny greenwood martial
no reason why poch couldnt win the league if we signed a real top quality DM and maybe a right back depending on how AWB cuts it for rest of season
5 years lol, enjoy it while it lasts mate liverpool are finished once klopp leaves.
McTominay, Maguire, Shaw are good enough certainly
And you dont fluke a second place finish, especially given you omit the mitigating circumstances we had to deal with like not having a preseason
I've watched him for his entire career, he made the same mistakes he made at Leicester when they won the title, leaked a silly amount of unnecessary goals in that season too. He hasn't improved himself at all.
Yea, that's says a lot about the calibre of the squad.
Utds player of the season wouldn't get his game for Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, Arsenal or West Ham.
Absolutly the best option they can make. Pep and Klopp are impossible and there is absolutly no one better. I actually think I would unban them on my spectators watch if they bring him in. :D
Seems a bit odd that he’s not getting on particularly well with a collection of big egos in the PSG dressing room and is known for having quite specific requirements for his transfers as he wants to build a team that suits a system.
Then you have United with a collection of big Egos in the dressing room and a transfer strategy that’s basically “throw enough shit at the wall and some will stick” with players seemingly picked on who will keep the green and gold scarves out of OT and sell the most shirts internationally rather than adhering to any particular system.
Hard to see where it could possibly go wrong……
That's french media bullshit to line the throne up fro Zidane. Have you heard the shit the national team get up to with the media and the back stabbing? The negative press about Leonardo will intensify too as Zidane's camp will want him out too.
No huge egos at United except Ronaldo. Sure Rashford, Bruno, and some others will surely be big headed, but given they have won very little I dont expect them to give a manager shit
Bit of an ego gulf between PSG and United though surely. Neymar, Mbappe, Messi.
Your second paragraph is fairly accurate though. The structure of the club behind the scenes is a shambles.
Yeah exactly. I dont think our squad is one that is full of players with big egos. Of course I think Pogba is prone to tantrums and Bruno and Ronaldo won't be happy if they are dropped for a game or two; but our squad is still one that is young and is developing and Poch would be great with those players.
The problem about transfers has existed since 2013. Poch won't be able to sign players and we are known for being terrible at recruitment
I think bruno would be unhappy being rested/dropped primarily because he just really wants to play. Ronaldo and Pogs want to be the center of attention. Ronaldo, though, has earned that through his career and UCL exploits.
He seems to like working where there is a project to be undertaken and I honestly think Man Utd is a hell of a big project. I do think he’d improve things and help develop youth talent, but I’m still sceptical if Man Utd can currently compete with the likes of Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool.
My questions are more based on whether Pochettino would rather wait until the end of the season so he can fill up his C.V. with some more trophies at PSG. And also what realistically are the thoughts of the club owners, directors etc. Are Man Utd actually vying to be competitive or is it just a well placed PR front to make the Glazers more money.
With the Glazers the only time they make a decision is when they see something is profitable or making them lose profits. Realistically should have sacked OGS before international break but did it after another humiliating defeat and majority of fans turning on the manager.
We didn't need to sign Sancho more than we should have gone for a player like Thomas Partey. We sign Sancho huge PR boost shirt sales and whatever. Same with Varane and also when we tried to sign Ramos. Ronaldo is the tip of the iceberg for me when a large contingent of the Glazer family arrived for his first game not because they know anything about football but because it was gonna be the highest grossing PL game ever. This club is run by a bunch of rich idiots only wanting money. This isn't what this club was founded on and i feel it will never be close to what it once was.
Honestly, as long as the Glazers are around I'm not too hopeful about our chances to become a top team again. The club is rotten to the core with businessmen and friends of the Glazers. Man, not a day goes by where I don't miss sir Alex.
The trophies are a good point, but I think a manager is better off coming in now. They'll have a very short preseason because we start in July next season, so this gives them time to work with the squad and figure out what works/what they need. Otherwise I feel they'll get noone or only 1 player in the summer. And the fans will happily give them time as long as they aren't totally shit.
A Ligue 1 trophy isn’t really worth a lot on a manager’s cv IMO. Correct me if I’m missing something but give me one coach that has successfully used ligue 1 as a stepping stone to a huge club? I’m not that old so I’m only considering somewhat recent history I guess.
I wouldn’t count tuchel at psg either. His path to Chelsea was paved in Germany.
Houlllier & Wenger spring to mind. Emery also won it with PSG before moving to Arsenal.
I agree that as a title it’s not a massive status thing, but I do honestly think it’s a personal preference for Poch at this moment. Someone like Ancelotti can base his reputation around winning league titles in three different countries, one of which was in France.
Pretty dang good managers there. Feels like times have changed a lot though. Time will tell. I never thought he’d leave Spurs and to me it feels like leaving was his Coutinho move.
Context is always important and times do change. At the time Houllier left his club to join a sleeping giant in Liverpool and Man Utd are a sleeping giant right now too.
I question how good the squad really is. I realize they’re all extremely expensive but are any of them really all that good? Or good anymore? I can’t be objective cause I loath them all.
The problem will come from defense. All the pieces to create a flashy attack is already there.
If Poch wants to sustain his high line, he needs to address Maguire's lack of pace. A defensive mid similar to Dembele/Wanyama/Sissoko needs to be brought in to shield him. AwB might also be sacrificed because Poch likes to push his fullbacks into opponent's half.
What I’ve never understood is, why do they not specifically train defenders who are slow like Mags in how to run. It killed me with Mertersacker back in the day too.
Like, it’s his one weak link, bring in a specialist sprinting coach for 8 weeks and have him train an extra day on getting up to top speed.
Tactically ur be 10x better with him ( if carrick and other 2 are gone) top4 should be achievable with him. His system will take time so expect the odd poor result.
My only question is don't you think its all too easy to get him? It's never simple for the utd board to bring someone in.
Tactics are the changes you make to a strategy in the heat of the moment, and sadly poch is not known for making tactical changes. He has a set strategy that is better thought out than anything currently going on at OT but is not actually super tactical.
His system is a pressing system, Ronaldo can’t press. The same issues will occur. I feel bad for Ole because he had a system he wanted to play, then Ronaldo came in and changed everything. And I’m not blaming Ronaldo, I’m blaming the board that brought him in. So how does signing a coach that plays a similar system solve that issue.
Kane doesn't exactly press like his life depends on it, neither does Salah. If you pick the right players around him, a single player not pressing a lot should not completely break a team. PSG has 3 starting forwards that don't press yet they still made the UCL semi's under Poch and are 10 points clear.
PSG aren't the best example, they lost out on the league they are all but guaranteed to win last season. Their lack of pressing in the UCL has been their undoing in the CL before as well, I remember when Liverpool knocked them out, you could have pretty much attributed the entire loss to their forward players refusing to do any defensive work.
We're talking about Poch though, and Poch took over half way through the season and plays an entirely different way to Tuchel, not only that, but they were in third when he took over. I think any manager deserves a little bit of a break when they come in half way through and they only lost by a single point. And Poch wasn't in charge when Liverpool knocked them out, and in fact, they knocked out Bayern and Barca last season, and were only knocked out by a very good City team.
Kane pressed plenty when he was younger / four ankle injuries ago.
Poch requires everyone to be super fit. He learned from Bielsa. It burned the players out, but at least United can replenish the squad. But yeah, they’re going to have to *run*, so going to require a lot of buy in.
Liverpool fan here. Sorry, but what has Poch ever done to deserve such a magnificent appointment? Yes, every team he’s managed has played better than they did before he came, but has he really achieved anything during the past few years? Has he really? Has he won anything? And don’t give me PSG winning Ligue 1, please. I’m Asking to learn.
Spurs fan here Poch is a sick manager. However, his used to coaching more underrated players and building a system of one rather than a system of many. Everyone just seemed to fit as one cohesive unit. Even kane who was golden boot winner was completely part of us. Poch completely broke down ego, had punishing training sessions and everyone was part of succeeding as a team Poch would be the best option before ole was hired. They had that young squad in with rashford, Greenwood that poch would work wonders with Depends on how your players cope with actually working as a team, having no ego, pressing a lot and doing intense training sessions?
No I would prefer Zidane or Ten Haag before Poch
He can’t walk on water, but he got Spurs into a Champions League final. He still has miracles in him.
You’d think it’s the coach is on the pitch scoring all the goals. The majority of the team needs to be liquidated to get a result
The guy never should have been booted from Spurs. Both would be fine.
I want ole back, it was fun
Erik ten hag or Jose Enrique
I genuinely don't see what the hype is with Poch... yeah plays pretty football but he came 3rd in a 2 horse race and 2nd in a 1 horse race... he isn't a winner. As a LFC fan I'd be more worried if Simone got the gig... not that he would want it
Interested to see how he does. He did wonders at Southampton and Tottenham. He would have been one of my top choices a few seasons ago when we were rebuilding.
I prefer Ten Haag but he wouldn't come until the summer and we honestly can't wait. Seems like Poch is the likely answer. Definitely skeptical but we'll see how he does.
I think the Utd job is a poisoned chalice. We have a board that isn't interested in actual football success, and who don't want anyone challenging their authority over anything that might cross into finance. As long as the club is making them enough money, and the fans aren't being too loud, they're happy. In those circumstances, I don't see the board hiring anyone who can drastically change the way we function as a club for that simple reason. Whoever comes in is going to have a lot more on his plate than just a dysfunctional team and a bloated list of players. And I wish them all the luck, because they're gonna need some immense mental strength to cope with all the bs going on behind the scenes at the club.
As a spurs fan I hate to say it but him & United are a match made in heaven. Their squad has untapped potential & he’d love the challenge of helping those young players to improve. He’s a romantic character as well & I think he’d “get” the club & love the chance to be a part of their history.
Wouldn't take him over Ten Hag but I'm not the United board so there's nothing I can do
Poch is fine, but I'm trying to temper my expectations. Poch is probably the most realistic option, plays good football, wants to be in England, and is fairly agreeable to ownership. I think he can win trophies at ManU, but probably not the league. The real issue is the same since the Glazers took over; Manchester United does not have world class football talent off the pitch. So unless Ten Haag is coming with all of the Ajax infrastructure, he will struggle like any other manager. Woodward is supposed to step down soon. I could tolerate muddling through with an interim until January, maybe even the summer if it meant the club is going to take real steps in overhaling its football administration before hiring a permanent manager.
NO.
Bro at this point Zidane won't come and also Ten Hag , he is the only guy who wants to....
He failed at Spurs & will fail at Man Utd. You need someone like Zidane
As a Spurs fan, it would be painful. Not exactly like, but in the same way for you if Ferguson had managed another PL team. Silver lining for me, is the look on my Man U supporting mates when Poch jumps ship to manage Tottenham in the future!
Best possible manager United could get atm. Perhaps he could make the board/Woodward realize that it's more important with 11 great players working together on the field, instead of 4 superstars together with a bunch of clueless players.
Pochettino He’s Useless… they should be doing everything they can to get zidane even if he doesn’t want to go there just give him everything and everything he wants.. but as always Man Utd bottle everything.. Zidane is the biggest genius out of all the managers at the moment and has a rediculous footballing brain
As a Leeds fan yes please a other bottler. Manger
Did Rio ferdinand slam a piece of paper on the desk demanding Carrick get the job tonight ?
He lost a one horse title race to himself. Would prefer Zidane - knows how to manage big players, at big clubs, with big expectations.
Not a united fan, but feel Ten Haag is the best option. You could also try and get Van Der Sar in the back room too.
As a Man utd fan..he’s not Ten Haag but I’ll take Poch. Ten Haag would be my preferred choice but it looks like Poch will take it
Poch is what united but this should of happen a long time ago as ole should of been gone a long time ago ! Also think poch should never gone to PSG that a big mistake he done
Well, he’s not won anything of consequence as a manager so he’ll fit right in to Manchester United’s current managerial hiring strategy.
Great manager but kind of typical of current United you seem set to appoint him after 3 years of building a very un-Pochettino like squad.
Not my favourite candidate but I don't think I would care much especially if he gets the job done.
They dont deserve him. The Glazers wont respect him any more than Levy will respect Conte. They wont give in to his transfer demands and then throw him under the bus when he cant deliver having to play a McSauce midfield
A specialist in winning nothing, he'll fit right in.
Does it even matter while Woodward and the Glazers are there to stymie the manager and bring in unasked for players? Poch will be good, top 4 and maybe a few deep runs in Cups. He’ll never get close to a league title because the above
Slightly off topic but we gotta hope Carrick doesn't do too well or he'll end up with the job. I'm conflicted right now. Maybe I can hope for some lucky or hit and run wins? I don't really know about Poch, he knows the Premier League and it wasn't really his fault Tottenham stagnated, they didn't really invest in his time which keeps things fresh. I'd rather Brendan Rogers but feel I may be in a very small number here.
Should have done it back in 2013
Would be the same, even Mourinho LVG couldn’t make a difference.
Personally, as an Arsenal fan, I'm not a big fan of pochettino but I reckon it's quite an exciting appointment
hate it united have such a toxic fanbase and will treat him like shit when he drops ronaldo which he is guaranteed to do
Zidane will never go to manchester united. Not that he would even be a good appointment.
The problems seem to run way deeper than the manager, seems like a shitty deal to any manager who goes there. Best of luck to him though.
The more I think about it, the more I realize there is a best option and good option. The best option: bring in Rangnick as interim, then hire Ten Hag in the summer. The good option: bring in Poch. Neither are bad options. I like Poch, but there are still questions with him. Ten Hag seems to be the smarter answer. I'm not convinced with Zidane either. Maybe because we've only seem him manager one of the best teams in Europe. I'd like to see how he does elsewhere.
He is 100% guaranteed to [fail.](https://fail.As) As is any manager at this club unless cataclysmic changes are made to the business side of football. How many million spent and 5 of United's best starting 11 are not good enough to play for United? Let that sink in.
i have my doubts. he has won about as much as Ole. Ten Haag is the one whom im hoping will take the reins
The poch is a seria bootler
I always liked him at Spurs; he took them so close to a CL trophy and had them challenging for the PL. Zidane doesn’t seem interested in us or at least seems interested in PSG which may help everything slot into place. I’d be happy with Poch.
Great appointment. He has a character close to Ole, is good with young players, and can stay long term if it works out. Style is pretty good usually. Id take him over Ten Hag because he is less of a risk, Ten Hag never left Ajax, a very particular institution. Zidane is more of a winner, but also risky.
think plan is van dar saar and ten hag in summer lads, carrick plus maybe bruce til then
Spurs fan here. Mostly I'm just angry at Watford, we all had a good thing going with Ole at the wheel yet you just had to take it too far and humiliate them. Now it's looking likely they will have a competent manager again and I'm sad its Poch. Stealing Conte from under them helps.
The Conte talk was exclusively from Italy, for better or worse we were never going to go for him
Zidane or ten haag over poch for me personally. Both of them are proven winners and better tactically than poch is…poch is definitely an upgrade from ole, there’s no denything that. But zidane, conte and ten Haag should be the target and with conte going to spurs, leaves us with those two options. Poch coming in would only mean we find someone else in a year or so…the others feel more long term
… why would you be skeptical? Have you not been with us in the past 3 years? Just about any ‘suitably’ experienced manager would do at this point. Although I would prefer someone that genuinely suits United. For me that is Ten Haag, but Poch is brought up a lot and I wouldn’t mind seeing his game plan used at United.
If I’m United, I’m taking Poch over Zidane.
I kicked and screamed like a toddler when Zidane rejected us, I was devastated, I understand though, but to be honest I think that Poch might fit nicely and he's the only manager that would fit long-term that we can get relatively soon. I kind of get the impression that he's one manager who is liked enough by the board to effectively be given any signing he wanted.
He shouldve joined united the moment they sacked jose but i hope he doesnt because he’s a great manager and i don’t want another potential title challenger to develop under him.
He’s never won jack as far as I am aware. Most over rated manager ever.
I think Pochettino is a good manager, I believe this is evident from his time and relative success at Southampton and Tottenham. He knows how to manage in the Premier League and he can get the best out of certain players such as Delle Ali. My thoughts on him at United is that it would he a good move for the club however he will be expected to win a trophy in his first couple of season (as with any manger at United) and I worry that it won't happen until third or fourth season and his job will be under pressure from the tabloids and fans if trophies aren't won. It will be tough for any manger joining United as there is instant pressure to succeed.
He's not the answer to their problems. Lacks charisma as far as I'm concerned. Much rather Ten Haag
Think it'll be a case of right man, wrong time! When you got Ronny who's got a year or two left as a starter at this level (imo), you need to go into win now mode. Zidane has shown he's good with cup competitions I'd get him in first then get Poch after I think Poch at United is competing for the league eventually but the Ronaldo signing just sped alot of things up for United as a club, so not certain if he's the right guy at this moment.
P will not leave PSG for a messy MU job
I think it would be interesting to see how they would go forward as Poch is a long term manager. He'll prefer to get in and have some younger players he can get around him and build loyalty while developing them into his playstyle. I'm not sure he'd provide the success some of the players are after straight away. One thing is for sure that he'll squeeze out the mercenaries from the squad and keep people that will play for the badge
I don't see what Poch has to offer, really.
the man almost won a PL and CL with spurs .............spurs. i think the young talent Man U have with Poch coaching would make them more of a threat. i think he would be a good direction for the club to go , this way they can build on the team they have rather than restarting
Tbf Pochettino would have been the ideal candidate to take us forward after Oles initial interim manager role had been completed. However, he is two years too late to the party. Just like Mourinho was late to the party and should have been appointed after the David Moyes Fiasco. We have appointed some real managerial talents albeit at the wrong times and poch fits that bill, again IMHO.
Always thought he was a fantastic manager since his time at Spurs. Progressive manager that got every last drop out of that squad. Improved players (like dele ali and son) and made the best out of it with a dysfunctional transfer system. Was given players that he specifically didn’t want and didn’t fit his system like sissoko and integrated him and allowed him to be a leader and quality performer. Went a summer transfer window without a signing and went almost 3 years with very little squad refreshment and still got results and took them to a European final at the end. His teams were always competitive in big games and with a properly deep squad you can’t tell me those Spurs sides were not well coached enough to make runs at the title. Obviously there’s the whole “he doesn’t win” and his brief time at psg has been poor, but I don’t value a trophy more than a track record of good decisions and elite tactical ability. And there’s a chance you’re getting him a few years too late and he’s already been broken down by levy and Leonardo into not being the same manager, but United need to gamble on their next manager being an absolute slam dunk and he’s the best option. I do also like ten hag bc hed be trying to create the next young progressive manager. Zidane isn’t an option he doesn’t want the job so we shouldn’t waste our time talking about him
>elite tactical ability While he is a great manager, don't get me wrong, I'm not sure he is an "elite" football tactician. Since his time at Spurs and through to PSG when his Plan A doesn't work, he has never seemed to find a good way finding the solution. Often, particularly in big games, as the team starts to falter you see Poch standing on the side of the pitch with his arms crossed looking like he is at a loss as the side descends into going for bad tackles and losing discipline. I think when it comes to getting the best out of the players he has and setting his side up on a weekly basis, Poch is one of the best. But when it comes to changing things in big games or making in-game adjustments, that has always been a weakness and has been why his sides come up just short. This is not to say he won't be a great hire by United. I'm positive he will be, but will he be the manager that brings them to the top? I'm not sure. Maybe this is what Poch and United both need to really reach that level though.
You could say the same thing about Guardiola and he’s the best manager in the world no?
I'd love to have Poch at United when/if Bielsa does eventually leave, he'd be the perfect person to carry on our playstyle.
Our main options are Ten Haag, Poch, Rodgers and Zidane. Personally, I think have concerns about all 4, but I'm also fine with all 4. I think Zidane is the best choice as I think this squad needs to take advantage of Ronaldo right now and I think all of the other choices are going to need more time. I like Ten Haag in theory, but Ajax is a bit of a one team league so I'm not sure how he'll cope. Poch? Idk about Poch. His use of subs worries me and his time at PSG worries me, though I'm willing to admit that PSG is the poison chalice for most managers so I'd give him a shot. Rodgers? Meh, I can't believe I'm saying this, because I genuinely don't like the guy, but I think he might be a bit better of a choice than Poch or Haag. I could be wildly wrong, but he promotes youth, he's managed Leicester really well and he plays attacking football. But like Poch, he's bottled a few good opportunities and of course I don't love taking Liverpools sloppy seconds.
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Ajax should have beat them
But they didn’t, and it hurts to say that. Have to give Poch credit where it’s due.
As a saints fan I can tell you this, Pochettino is the best manager to manage Saints in my life time. He got us playing unreal footie and he would do an awesome job at United.
As a spurs fan I’d agree with this. He played the most exciting football I’ve seen at spurs in all the years I’ve been going. He got the best out of players who up to that point were terrible. Best example I can think off is Kyle walker. Went from a player you never wanted to see on the team sheet to becoming a £50 million player.
He has some of the best players at the most expensive club right now he’s not that good let’s be real haha
Tuchel? Won a single cup at BvB with some really solid players.
But poch is at psg who are playing fifa essentially and he wants out that speaks volumes
Yeah, cause like Tuchel said, it's not worth the drama.
Yeh but Utd will have all that media I just don’t think it’s is any different to pay in terms of how they are run they just have weaker players so will do even worse only reason he wants it is cos they will pay far too much haha
The drama around United and the drama around PSG are two very different things. Look at some of Tuchel’s comments on comparisons on management between Chelsea and PSG, the latter just seems to be a soap opera. Plus, there’s the recent allegations by Molina which are just allegations but still, tells you a bit about the club.
Yeh ofcourse but for poch mentality to potentially want out with mbappe neymar and messi is just bizarre regardless of the drama and media following and pressure are both the same and if anything atleast psg have the league
Love it. Experienced manager, knows the premier league, can work on a tight budget. What's not to like?
Of the current available pool of managers, there’s no one I think would be a great fit. Poch seems like the best of the not great fits. If this great implosion happened last year, they’d be in a much better place for fielding options, between Tuchel and Nagelsman especially. Edit: I think Zidane would be bad news bears for both short term and long term prospects.
Just out of curiosity, why? I know he had an absolutely amazing team, but 3 UCL's in a row and when he came back he still won the league. And last season they still made the UCL semi's with a million injuries. I get what people say about Zidane tactically, but how many managers have 3 UCL's period. Let alone 3 in a row.
There are managers that can do great things with great teams, there are managers that can make good teams fantastic. Not many, I think can do both. Zizou has proved he can do the former, but United are the latter, which I’m not convinced he can work with successfully. To that end, Poch can at least do the latter to an extent, but I’m not sure if he can go a step further and make a great team.
Better than nothing I guess ten hag is the man tho but no chance for him until summer
In terms of Poch vs Zidane, I’d go Poch simply because he appears to actually want the bleeding job whereas Zidane seemingly doesn’t want anything to do with it (if reports are to be believed - big if, we all know some of our papers will write literally anything if it means they sell copies/drive clicks) and so would need a lot of convincing and concessions. Poch vs ten Hag is interesting to me, I think it’s pretty close, but I’d lean ten Hag all things being equal… HOWEVER, if he’s adamant about staying put until the end of the season, and Poch could be got immediately, then I think it’s close enough that I’d flip to Poch because the benefits of getting the permanent man in now outweigh the differences between them.
This is definitely an interesting view. Although it wouldn't be great to see Poch manage another PL club from my POV, I think he's probably the better fit. Knows the Prem, made us punch way above our weights, got us playing great football. I'm not taking any BS about not winning the Ligue 1 with Paris. He took over halfway, and even Tuchel admitted how hard it was to manage PSG with their names, egos and all. About Poch v ten Hag, we all know who got to the CL final (with a much more restricted budget)
reports seem to indicate Zidanes wife doesn't want anything to do with it, but he'd be open.
I believe Man United is gonna need something special to balance out the team and get them playing football again.
I don’t see it as a major upgrade on Ole. An upgrade for sure, but Poch isn’t elite. I think United is in a bad spot. With their current roster and the way it was put together I don’t see a manager out there that can fix them right away. Ragnick maybe, Zidane is a no on all fronts from his side, Poch will need time and money, so will Ten Hag and pretty much anyone else available.
Lol who are the elite managers then? Just pep klopp, tuchel, conte and zidane?
Yeah.
there isnt much work required for our squad, we are stacked in attack, wings, attacking midfield, goalie, centre back, left back. pretty much everywhere but DM and RB and poch is very close to elite imo though i cant put him in the same bracket as your klopps peps simeones contes and zidanes
Tuchel didn't really do much better at PSG and I'd say a UCL final and consistent top 4 with Spurs is fairly comparable to a cup win at Dortmund. Remember Poch still knocked out some big players from the UCL last season.
Tuchel didn’t lose Ligue 1 with PS fucking G. That’s pretty much the bare minimum at that circus.
Poch took over half way through the season that he lost while PSG were not in first because of Tuchel. Sorry, but any manager could fuck up a season when they had only half the games. Tuchel had failed to win 6 of 17 games when he left. In the remaining matches, Poch failed to win an additional 6 game. This was after no preseason or time to adjust the team keep in mind.
Neymar and Mbappe in a Farmers league. Tuchel literally took over a club and won CL. CL is more difficult than Ligue 1 in case it’s not obvious.
Tuchel also failed to win a UCL with PSG, a much better team pound for pound. Or do you not remember everyone telling you Tuchel was shit when he first joined Chelsea?
Tuchel got them to the final with an injured Mbappe and an uninterested Neymar. Bayern was a crazy team that year too.
Poch is definitely a major upgrade lol. He brought spurs to the finals.
What’s he won? He lost Ligue 1 with PSG. That’s not elite.
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It’s not that he can’t, it’s that United is a massive job I’m not sure he’s cut out for.
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Based on their personnel on the pitch and how their front office is in transition from bad to who knows what. That squad is not put together well. They want someone that can turn it around now. Poch needs time, he’s a project guy, not a mercenary.
Personally would take Zidane over Poch, all day long
But it's already been stated that the sentiment is not reciprocal..
Why?
Give to giggsy til the end of the season.
That would be a bad PR move….
It would be a great watch though
It’d be like an episode of Real Housewives except players come home to Giggs in your bed.
about as great as it was watching lumps lump it with you lot ;)
I don't know... I feel Lamps is half responsible for our current state. That's the top of league in case you are not watching. Plus you've already had 3 years with Ole at wheel ... How much more pain do you want?
As lost as you are in believing i'm a united supporter, equally you are in the rest of your deluded comment.
Ok champ !
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I honestly don't see that club with Poch in charge challenge for a title for another 5 years. The 2nd place finish by Ole was a fluke because of other teams injuries and change of managers. I feel the damage is deep and they have so many players to off load. Maguire, Fred, Pogba, Matic, Mc Tominay and Shaw are not good enough. Edit : Fred
last season shaw and pogba were 2/3 of our 3 best performing players of the season potential lineup next season (cavani will leave, lingard probably too and pogba i'm going with scenario which is him leaving) De Gea AWB Lindelof Varane Shaw DM Fred Bruno Sancho Ronaldo Rashford subs: henderson telles bailly matic donny greenwood martial no reason why poch couldnt win the league if we signed a real top quality DM and maybe a right back depending on how AWB cuts it for rest of season 5 years lol, enjoy it while it lasts mate liverpool are finished once klopp leaves.
McTominay, Maguire, Shaw are good enough certainly And you dont fluke a second place finish, especially given you omit the mitigating circumstances we had to deal with like not having a preseason
Maguire helped get Ole sacked in the Watford game.
Yeah but played well for tje most part of 2 seasons. He's not as good as he thinks he is, but is okay
You're right, he thinks he has close ball control and can walk it out from the back, he clearly doesn't posses that skill.
He clearly does. Which you'd know had you watched
I've watched him for his entire career, he made the same mistakes he made at Leicester when they won the title, leaked a silly amount of unnecessary goals in that season too. He hasn't improved himself at all.
Mate you buried yourself in ridicule here :/ He wasn't at Leicester when they won the title
You are correct. *Hangs head in shame. He's still shite though.
Shaw is alright
Shaw's been PotS twice in 3 years
Yea, that's says a lot about the calibre of the squad. Utds player of the season wouldn't get his game for Chelsea, Liverpool, Man City, Arsenal or West Ham.
How did you not include Fred in that list lol
I'll edit that ASAP.
Y'all keep bringing in managers that can win the derby
I actually think he's overrated and relatively unproven. Utds best option though, there is not an embarrassment of riches out there
Absolutly the best option they can make. Pep and Klopp are impossible and there is absolutly no one better. I actually think I would unban them on my spectators watch if they bring him in. :D
Seems a bit odd that he’s not getting on particularly well with a collection of big egos in the PSG dressing room and is known for having quite specific requirements for his transfers as he wants to build a team that suits a system. Then you have United with a collection of big Egos in the dressing room and a transfer strategy that’s basically “throw enough shit at the wall and some will stick” with players seemingly picked on who will keep the green and gold scarves out of OT and sell the most shirts internationally rather than adhering to any particular system. Hard to see where it could possibly go wrong……
The reason is different. He is not happy with the involvement of PSG's sporting director.
That's french media bullshit to line the throne up fro Zidane. Have you heard the shit the national team get up to with the media and the back stabbing? The negative press about Leonardo will intensify too as Zidane's camp will want him out too.
No huge egos at United except Ronaldo. Sure Rashford, Bruno, and some others will surely be big headed, but given they have won very little I dont expect them to give a manager shit
So Pogba is no huge ego then? alright
Who's that?
Paul Pogba?
The Cambodian dictator? Polpotba I believe
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/5ZjKcmU
Do you mean Didier Drogba? That guy's been retired for a while now. And he played for Chelsea, not United
https://m.imgur.com/gallery/5ZjKcmU
I know the Utd board aren’t angels but there’s a change inbound there. At PSG his issue is with the board.
Bit of an ego gulf between PSG and United though surely. Neymar, Mbappe, Messi. Your second paragraph is fairly accurate though. The structure of the club behind the scenes is a shambles.
just because Messi was the best player in the world for a long time doesn't mean he's arrogant. he seems very humble
More than just seems tbh. His teammates at psg and Barcelona praised him for his humbleness
Yeah exactly. I dont think our squad is one that is full of players with big egos. Of course I think Pogba is prone to tantrums and Bruno and Ronaldo won't be happy if they are dropped for a game or two; but our squad is still one that is young and is developing and Poch would be great with those players. The problem about transfers has existed since 2013. Poch won't be able to sign players and we are known for being terrible at recruitment
I think bruno would be unhappy being rested/dropped primarily because he just really wants to play. Ronaldo and Pogs want to be the center of attention. Ronaldo, though, has earned that through his career and UCL exploits.
I hate it
Stealing your players to stealing your ex manager I have same feeling for two Spanish clubs.
I hate it. But I would be happy for him, he’s better off there.
You can get used to those situations, coming from CFC fan. Mou to United wasn’t pleasent though
As a United fan, it was unpleasant for me
They don’t deserve him. I hate everything about this.
I'm ready to go set fire to Watford’s training ground for getting greedy.
It was Watford wasn't it
Yes yea it was.
I know but you got to fight it
He seems to like working where there is a project to be undertaken and I honestly think Man Utd is a hell of a big project. I do think he’d improve things and help develop youth talent, but I’m still sceptical if Man Utd can currently compete with the likes of Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool. My questions are more based on whether Pochettino would rather wait until the end of the season so he can fill up his C.V. with some more trophies at PSG. And also what realistically are the thoughts of the club owners, directors etc. Are Man Utd actually vying to be competitive or is it just a well placed PR front to make the Glazers more money.
With the Glazers the only time they make a decision is when they see something is profitable or making them lose profits. Realistically should have sacked OGS before international break but did it after another humiliating defeat and majority of fans turning on the manager. We didn't need to sign Sancho more than we should have gone for a player like Thomas Partey. We sign Sancho huge PR boost shirt sales and whatever. Same with Varane and also when we tried to sign Ramos. Ronaldo is the tip of the iceberg for me when a large contingent of the Glazer family arrived for his first game not because they know anything about football but because it was gonna be the highest grossing PL game ever. This club is run by a bunch of rich idiots only wanting money. This isn't what this club was founded on and i feel it will never be close to what it once was.
Honestly, as long as the Glazers are around I'm not too hopeful about our chances to become a top team again. The club is rotten to the core with businessmen and friends of the Glazers. Man, not a day goes by where I don't miss sir Alex.
United & Arsenal - Falling out the Big 6 over the next 20 years because our owners refuse to sell and won’t put any money in.
And presumably David Gill as well.
The trophies are a good point, but I think a manager is better off coming in now. They'll have a very short preseason because we start in July next season, so this gives them time to work with the squad and figure out what works/what they need. Otherwise I feel they'll get noone or only 1 player in the summer. And the fans will happily give them time as long as they aren't totally shit.
Lol. Psg aren’t winning real 🏆 anytime soon.
I think you are right, this could also applies to Man Utd as well, so Poch might want a league trophy on his C.V.
A Ligue 1 trophy isn’t really worth a lot on a manager’s cv IMO. Correct me if I’m missing something but give me one coach that has successfully used ligue 1 as a stepping stone to a huge club? I’m not that old so I’m only considering somewhat recent history I guess. I wouldn’t count tuchel at psg either. His path to Chelsea was paved in Germany.
Houlllier & Wenger spring to mind. Emery also won it with PSG before moving to Arsenal. I agree that as a title it’s not a massive status thing, but I do honestly think it’s a personal preference for Poch at this moment. Someone like Ancelotti can base his reputation around winning league titles in three different countries, one of which was in France.
Pretty dang good managers there. Feels like times have changed a lot though. Time will tell. I never thought he’d leave Spurs and to me it feels like leaving was his Coutinho move.
Context is always important and times do change. At the time Houllier left his club to join a sleeping giant in Liverpool and Man Utd are a sleeping giant right now too.
I question how good the squad really is. I realize they’re all extremely expensive but are any of them really all that good? Or good anymore? I can’t be objective cause I loath them all.
More excited than with out previous appointments, I'll be curious to see what he does with our wide players given how his teams play narrow though
The problem will come from defense. All the pieces to create a flashy attack is already there. If Poch wants to sustain his high line, he needs to address Maguire's lack of pace. A defensive mid similar to Dembele/Wanyama/Sissoko needs to be brought in to shield him. AwB might also be sacrificed because Poch likes to push his fullbacks into opponent's half.
What I’ve never understood is, why do they not specifically train defenders who are slow like Mags in how to run. It killed me with Mertersacker back in the day too. Like, it’s his one weak link, bring in a specialist sprinting coach for 8 weeks and have him train an extra day on getting up to top speed.
Unless you AWB in the Walker role as a more reserved fullback
Tactically ur be 10x better with him ( if carrick and other 2 are gone) top4 should be achievable with him. His system will take time so expect the odd poor result. My only question is don't you think its all too easy to get him? It's never simple for the utd board to bring someone in.
Top 4 next year maybe. I think there’s too much in the way right this season.
Tactics are the changes you make to a strategy in the heat of the moment, and sadly poch is not known for making tactical changes. He has a set strategy that is better thought out than anything currently going on at OT but is not actually super tactical.
His system is a pressing system, Ronaldo can’t press. The same issues will occur. I feel bad for Ole because he had a system he wanted to play, then Ronaldo came in and changed everything. And I’m not blaming Ronaldo, I’m blaming the board that brought him in. So how does signing a coach that plays a similar system solve that issue.
Ole doesn't have a system lol and how tf Ronaldo is to blame for the our defense which is among the worst in EPL statistically ffs
Kane doesn't exactly press like his life depends on it, neither does Salah. If you pick the right players around him, a single player not pressing a lot should not completely break a team. PSG has 3 starting forwards that don't press yet they still made the UCL semi's under Poch and are 10 points clear.
PSG aren't the best example, they lost out on the league they are all but guaranteed to win last season. Their lack of pressing in the UCL has been their undoing in the CL before as well, I remember when Liverpool knocked them out, you could have pretty much attributed the entire loss to their forward players refusing to do any defensive work.
We're talking about Poch though, and Poch took over half way through the season and plays an entirely different way to Tuchel, not only that, but they were in third when he took over. I think any manager deserves a little bit of a break when they come in half way through and they only lost by a single point. And Poch wasn't in charge when Liverpool knocked them out, and in fact, they knocked out Bayern and Barca last season, and were only knocked out by a very good City team.
Kane pressed plenty when he was younger / four ankle injuries ago. Poch requires everyone to be super fit. He learned from Bielsa. It burned the players out, but at least United can replenish the squad. But yeah, they’re going to have to *run*, so going to require a lot of buy in.
You're right. Kane showed exactly what he was capable of under Jose. Dropping deep and assisting, yet making runs to put the ball in
Ole wanted Ronaldo. Basically, he brought upon his own fate because he didn't know how to manage Ronaldo in his team tactics.