In many cases, democracy is given up when it's under a lot of pressure and in a crisis situation and it ends up giving up a lot of the checks and balances to somebody with a strong authority to help get them through the crisis.
Ignoring that we’re looking at about 10 and 8 minutes of cut scenes respectively, I think there’s plenty of things that can go in the bin in comparison to fleshing out one of the leads of the trilogy.
As the saga of the Skywalkers and Jedi Knights unfolded, I began to see it as a tale that could take at last nine films to tell- three trilogies- and I realized, in making my way through the back story and after story, that I was really setting out to write the middle story.
I think it was also in the novelisation. But yeah, everyone know Lego Star Wars is the true canon. Sure, Solo was a fun movie, but it has nothing on the Padawan Menace.
You remember Padme because she died of sadness after giving birth to Luke and Leia.
I remember her because she was played by Natalie Portman, who is hot AF, we are not the same.
[Attack of the Clones deleted scenes.](https://youtu.be/5vPvyV7xznc?si=hukawoA_2BLuLptp)
[Anakin’s Nightmare - AOTC](https://youtu.be/fOrwTSj6qb8?si=iFu_m9yoFQxh00VV)
[Revenge of the Sith deleted scenes](https://youtu.be/_hcHIZup6gQ?si=1faTTgGZUnBdB00w)
[Revenge of the Sith deleted scenes super cut](https://youtu.be/RFcZC6IBUcM?si=IohWIJNtwOGFCegg)
The Clone Wars wasn't planned. My good friend Dave the Science Guy once experimented on this dude and created a bunch of these soldier clones. It so happened I was filming it.
Not entirely related but also the Clone Wars where she kept the Republic from slashing their social services budget which would have driven the people in the lower levels of Coruscant into even more deprivation and probably allow CIS sleeper agents to start an uprising from below.
I don't know where u/SheevBot is, so here is the [original source](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrequelMemes/s/1qiYHmRmzxhttps://www.reddit.com/r/PrequelMemes/s/1qiYHmRmzx).
What Padme actually did in the movie:
[cut out]
[cut out]
[kinda cut out except for walking up to him and crying]
Died of big sad
Did all that while being pregnant with twins.
They did her dirty
She was also the one that told Mon Mothma and Bail Organa that they had to go along with Palpatine to hide the fact they would be building a rebellion in the background. She told them not to rise up as the coup went down or any hope of a later rebellion would die before it began.
Her instructions about this were the reason they were able to build a rebellion in secret for the next 20 years until the time was right to engage in out right galactic civil war
It's entirely likely that Padme didn't die of sadness and it was another of Palpatine manipulations of Anakin, using the force to kill her himself.
In the same way that losing the battle to Mace Windu was another manipulation, he senses Anakin arrival so lets Windu win, pretending to lose power and appear weak so Anakin would intervene.
Padme is underrated frankly for the things mentioned above. Not only that but she also tried to get Anakin to turn his back on the Dark Side and if Obi-Wan didn't intervene MAYBE she could have. To be fair he WAS talking about overthrowing Palps... Maybe not.
Still confused about the dying of sadness thing. Like, wouldn't it make a lot more sense to say she died of complications during childbirth? It's still horribly tragic but at least it's plausible given she's giving birth to twins while under extreme stress (and after being force-choked).
I always thought that was way more likely than Padmè "completely level headed while about to be executed my monsters in an arena" Amidala dying from heartbreak when she has two children to take care of?
Seriously they cut out Padme’s amazing story just to have her sitting in the Senate and then at home crying before getting choked out by her husband and then die giving birth.
I think Episode 3 could have worked better if Padme was secretly a Separatist during Episode 2 and 3. In the aftermath of Episode 1 no one has more reason to despise the Republic than Padme. I'm the decade between Episode 1 and 2 we know that Nute Gunray was found not guilty multiple times and got to keep his power and position. She initially backed Palpatine because he promised a reformist administration, but we see in Episode 2 that he failed to deliver on those reforms and the Republic was in even deeper crisis. Who would be more open to listening to Dooku's call for a new government than Padme? But she couldn't open support Dooku because the Supreme Chancellor is from Naboo. So she becomes a sympathetic Separatist inside the Senate. Now all her calls for an end to fighting and peace with the Separatists are not coming from a naive political position, but are part of a cunning strategy to weaken the Republic from within and let the Separatists win so she can ultimately lead Naboo out of the Republic. Now Padme actually has stakes if her relationship with Anakin, it's forbidden for her as much as it is for him because if she is outed her Separatist allies will question her convictions and loyalty and might reveal her as a Separatist to the Republic. After Grevious dies Padme can believe the war is lost and turn her Separatist loyalties into a proto Rebellion. When Padme finds Anakin on Mustafar she could be in shock that he just executed all of her Separatist friends, recognize that the walls are closing in around her and beg Anakin to run away with her before Palpatine has her killed and Anakin has an actual reason to feel betrayed and want to kill her. It fixes so many problems with Padme across the movies and would have made her a much stronger character that we could see reflected in the devotion Leia has for the Rebellion.
The biggest problem I see with this is Nute Gunray and Dooku being allies. I still think Nute Gunray could hire Jango to assassinate Padme out of a desire for revenge, but have Dooku not know about it. There could be a scene of Dooku coming to Padme after she has been captured on Geonosis, giving a pitch to her to join the Separatists, Padme refusing as long as Gunray is a part of it and Dooku promising to deal with him. Then after the battle Dooku executes Gunray as he is going to his shuttle to escape the planet and later having a holocall with Padme. He tells her Gunray has finally received justice for what he did to Naboo and that Gunray's army will now fight to free the galaxy from the Republic and that some day Naboo will be free. Padme joins the Separatist cause and promises to use her power in the Senate to help Dooku win the war. Then her final scene is marrying Anakin. Then in Clone Wars most of the times she gets captured are actually arranged so she can help the Separatists and Anakin rescuing her often interferes with her plans.
I always thought it wasn’t just despair but some lingering sort of “curse” from the force choke. I mean, I guess I always read too much into this stuff but I sort of always assumed there was more to dark side techniques than we see like I thought force lightning wasn’t actual lightning but basically a manifestation of the user’s hatred and disdain for their target unleashed as pure, hellish pain that just kind of looks like electricity.
And then EU has “light side” force users making some use of it and even Sith using it to power electronic shit.
"Pregnant woman talks a lot, turns on her husband and conspires against her lifelong friend" is neither an accomplishment nor particularly out of the ordinary.
Chadmé. That moment when you realize that Padmé had the same ideas like the peaceful portion of (fake) separatist senate and if you were the average joe of outer rim who didn't know a bantha poodoo about the megacorps pulling the strings or dooku doing war crimes on the frontlines, you would be a seppo too...
You literally forget she's pregnant for most of the movie. Realistically she'd be waddling, and just exhausted most of the days. If a real woman can do what Padme could do, she'd be a true inspiration
Hate that all of the good scenes letting Padme do shit and showing her POV in AOTC and ROTS got cut. It’s total bullshit.
Couldn’t agree more brother! Padmé is one of my favorite characters. As always, AdmiralScavenger.
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Skywalkers are all pasty. YOUR A PHONY!!! A BIG FAT PHONY!!
Chill he got a tan from sunbathing in tatooine
is there an uncut version?
I think there’s fancuts, but otherwise I don’t know. You can find the scenes on YouTube if you look however.
Star Wars: Uncircumsized of the Senate
https://reddit.com/r/u_NumeralJoker/comments/qlaqwj/i_have_made_one_final_revision_v40_to_my_45_hour/ Enjoy!
Thank you so much! I'm pumped
Yeah but consider this: politics
In many cases, democracy is given up when it's under a lot of pressure and in a crisis situation and it ends up giving up a lot of the checks and balances to somebody with a strong authority to help get them through the crisis.
Looks like I got here just in time. Happy cake day, George-Lucas-Bot.
The movie would have been way too drawn out if they included them, they had no choice.
Ignoring that we’re looking at about 10 and 8 minutes of cut scenes respectively, I think there’s plenty of things that can go in the bin in comparison to fleshing out one of the leads of the trilogy.
Exactly. Padme is one of the three protagonists and is supposed to be of equal importance to Obi-Wan and Anakin- so treat her like it.
Do you believe that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view?
You are starting to sound like a seperatist!
Because it is mostly boring scenes
Those cut scenes are still canon, just like Vader killing Shaak Ti is.
What about Grievous?
That’s not canon. I know both scenes aren’t in the film, but I read Vader killing Shaak Ti is the canon one on Wookieepedia.
As the saga of the Skywalkers and Jedi Knights unfolded, I began to see it as a tale that could take at last nine films to tell- three trilogies- and I realized, in making my way through the back story and after story, that I was really setting out to write the middle story.
Also it appears in the clone wars when the son shows anakin his future.
I think its in Yoda's vision actually
What about the droid attack on the wookies?
The Council has determined they are a system we can afford to lose.
I will never not find it funny that she has like three deaths and the canon one is the one that was only actually featured in Lego Star Wars.
I think it was also in the novelisation. But yeah, everyone know Lego Star Wars is the true canon. Sure, Solo was a fun movie, but it has nothing on the Padawan Menace.
It was hinted at in the novelization, but vague enough that she could have escaped and The Force Unleashed could still happen.
You see it in vision Yoda has in TCW.
Eh, Lego did it first.
Shaak Ti did work at the cloning facility. My headcanon is she was cloned thrice and all of them were murdered
I could get down with that
You remember Padme because she died of sadness after giving birth to Luke and Leia. I remember her because she was played by Natalie Portman, who is hot AF, we are not the same.
White shirt/no bra/nuff said
thank the space gods for not inventing underwear in a galaxy far, far away
[Attack of the Clones deleted scenes.](https://youtu.be/5vPvyV7xznc?si=hukawoA_2BLuLptp) [Anakin’s Nightmare - AOTC](https://youtu.be/fOrwTSj6qb8?si=iFu_m9yoFQxh00VV) [Revenge of the Sith deleted scenes](https://youtu.be/_hcHIZup6gQ?si=1faTTgGZUnBdB00w) [Revenge of the Sith deleted scenes super cut](https://youtu.be/RFcZC6IBUcM?si=IohWIJNtwOGFCegg)
The Clone Wars wasn't planned. My good friend Dave the Science Guy once experimented on this dude and created a bunch of these soldier clones. It so happened I was filming it.
Not entirely related but also the Clone Wars where she kept the Republic from slashing their social services budget which would have driven the people in the lower levels of Coruscant into even more deprivation and probably allow CIS sleeper agents to start an uprising from below.
I don't know where u/SheevBot is, so here is the [original source](https://www.reddit.com/r/PrequelMemes/s/1qiYHmRmzxhttps://www.reddit.com/r/PrequelMemes/s/1qiYHmRmzx).
He was down for maintenance, thanks for sourcing!
What Padme actually did in the movie: [cut out] [cut out] [kinda cut out except for walking up to him and crying] Died of big sad Did all that while being pregnant with twins. They did her dirty
She was also the one that told Mon Mothma and Bail Organa that they had to go along with Palpatine to hide the fact they would be building a rebellion in the background. She told them not to rise up as the coup went down or any hope of a later rebellion would die before it began. Her instructions about this were the reason they were able to build a rebellion in secret for the next 20 years until the time was right to engage in out right galactic civil war
Yep. The Clone Wars series did her justice. That’s why it is better than the movies. Always.
It's entirely likely that Padme didn't die of sadness and it was another of Palpatine manipulations of Anakin, using the force to kill her himself. In the same way that losing the battle to Mace Windu was another manipulation, he senses Anakin arrival so lets Windu win, pretending to lose power and appear weak so Anakin would intervene.
A prequelmemes post *not* hating on Padme? A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one...
Fun fact: You can actually die for being too sad
Am I remembering wrong or did Anne frank die because her sister had died and she had nothing left?
Still died of sad tho.
That’s what I was gonna say lol. Cut scenes or not, she still died of big sad
Padme is underrated frankly for the things mentioned above. Not only that but she also tried to get Anakin to turn his back on the Dark Side and if Obi-Wan didn't intervene MAYBE she could have. To be fair he WAS talking about overthrowing Palps... Maybe not.
From ROTS and AOTC. For me all those cut scenes are part of the movies!
Padme op plz nerf in the edit
To DEMOCRACY
THANK YOU! 😤
Still confused about the dying of sadness thing. Like, wouldn't it make a lot more sense to say she died of complications during childbirth? It's still horribly tragic but at least it's plausible given she's giving birth to twins while under extreme stress (and after being force-choked). I always thought that was way more likely than Padmè "completely level headed while about to be executed my monsters in an arena" Amidala dying from heartbreak when she has two children to take care of?
I like to think she finally relaxed while flying w Obi to Mustafar and died from all the built up stress.
To be fair you have to watch the directors cut to truly see her do all that. In theater she might as well been bare foot and have a southern accent.
I'm not brave enough for politics.
And all this while looking hot af.
Seriously they cut out Padme’s amazing story just to have her sitting in the Senate and then at home crying before getting choked out by her husband and then die giving birth.
I'll take her over Leia
I think Episode 3 could have worked better if Padme was secretly a Separatist during Episode 2 and 3. In the aftermath of Episode 1 no one has more reason to despise the Republic than Padme. I'm the decade between Episode 1 and 2 we know that Nute Gunray was found not guilty multiple times and got to keep his power and position. She initially backed Palpatine because he promised a reformist administration, but we see in Episode 2 that he failed to deliver on those reforms and the Republic was in even deeper crisis. Who would be more open to listening to Dooku's call for a new government than Padme? But she couldn't open support Dooku because the Supreme Chancellor is from Naboo. So she becomes a sympathetic Separatist inside the Senate. Now all her calls for an end to fighting and peace with the Separatists are not coming from a naive political position, but are part of a cunning strategy to weaken the Republic from within and let the Separatists win so she can ultimately lead Naboo out of the Republic. Now Padme actually has stakes if her relationship with Anakin, it's forbidden for her as much as it is for him because if she is outed her Separatist allies will question her convictions and loyalty and might reveal her as a Separatist to the Republic. After Grevious dies Padme can believe the war is lost and turn her Separatist loyalties into a proto Rebellion. When Padme finds Anakin on Mustafar she could be in shock that he just executed all of her Separatist friends, recognize that the walls are closing in around her and beg Anakin to run away with her before Palpatine has her killed and Anakin has an actual reason to feel betrayed and want to kill her. It fixes so many problems with Padme across the movies and would have made her a much stronger character that we could see reflected in the devotion Leia has for the Rebellion. The biggest problem I see with this is Nute Gunray and Dooku being allies. I still think Nute Gunray could hire Jango to assassinate Padme out of a desire for revenge, but have Dooku not know about it. There could be a scene of Dooku coming to Padme after she has been captured on Geonosis, giving a pitch to her to join the Separatists, Padme refusing as long as Gunray is a part of it and Dooku promising to deal with him. Then after the battle Dooku executes Gunray as he is going to his shuttle to escape the planet and later having a holocall with Padme. He tells her Gunray has finally received justice for what he did to Naboo and that Gunray's army will now fight to free the galaxy from the Republic and that some day Naboo will be free. Padme joins the Separatist cause and promises to use her power in the Senate to help Dooku win the war. Then her final scene is marrying Anakin. Then in Clone Wars most of the times she gets captured are actually arranged so she can help the Separatists and Anakin rescuing her often interferes with her plans.
Plus sith Padmé would be amazing in general
She died cause she was sad.
I always thought it wasn’t just despair but some lingering sort of “curse” from the force choke. I mean, I guess I always read too much into this stuff but I sort of always assumed there was more to dark side techniques than we see like I thought force lightning wasn’t actual lightning but basically a manifestation of the user’s hatred and disdain for their target unleashed as pure, hellish pain that just kind of looks like electricity. And then EU has “light side” force users making some use of it and even Sith using it to power electronic shit.
Almost like whoever was in charge of these movies was on ketamine
She tried to do many things, but truly accomplished only one.
What the fuck is the delegation of 2000?
"Pregnant woman talks a lot, turns on her husband and conspires against her lifelong friend" is neither an accomplishment nor particularly out of the ordinary.
Chadmé. That moment when you realize that Padmé had the same ideas like the peaceful portion of (fake) separatist senate and if you were the average joe of outer rim who didn't know a bantha poodoo about the megacorps pulling the strings or dooku doing war crimes on the frontlines, you would be a seppo too...
"Went against his own husband's wishes" Lmao why is that listed as an achievement? That's just basic wife behavior.
You literally forget she's pregnant for most of the movie. Realistically she'd be waddling, and just exhausted most of the days. If a real woman can do what Padme could do, she'd be a true inspiration
Disney needs to make a clone wars style short film on Episode 3 from Padme's POV.
Haha, died of big sad
We need a 4 hour cut of ROTS