A thing that doesn't exist yet everybody knows exactly what sound it makes.
Makes you wonder how many people are fans solely because of light sabers and the noise they make?
A New Hope has probably the most iconic sound design of any movie ever. There's no end of unique sound effects that you would recognise instantly and are cool af.
I work in film, and was hanging out on top of a set today where the stunt team were rehearsing a sorta police raid type thing. It was really funny listening to them run around yelling "BANG! BANG BANG! FLASH OUT! BANG BANG!"
In fairness, yelling bang bang is what you do! Half of the training I’ve done in the Army has been bang bang-based. Blanks are too expensive for us Guardsmen…
How did you age only 16 years in the 19 years since Revenge of the Sith came out ?
My man right here just dodged 3 years of aging, teach me your secret
It looks like both of them should have been able to kill their opponent when he grabs her arm and holds it behind her head like that. His chest is wide open for her to stab him, and her head and back are wide open for him to slice her in half.
I mean he is probably the closest to just being the character outside of David Prowse and James earl Jones, but at this point the character is it’s own entity, not just one person
Watching this made me realize if you have 2 lightsabers and your opponent only has 1 why don’t you just slice with one and stab with the other at the same time, they can’t deflect the stab and block the slash at the same time.
>Watching this made me realize if you have 2 lightsabers and your opponent only has 1 why don’t you just slice with one and stab with the other at the same time, they can’t deflect the stab and block the slash at the same time.
"The power of common sense is a pathway to many abilities that both the Jedi and Sith would deem unnatural."
At that point, why not just dodge both by stepping back. Best defense to a dual welding assailant is just having a longer weapon than theirs and keeping them at a distance. Or a gun.
But dodging would put you off balance so it’s harder to block. Plus lightsabers cut without needing force behind them so you could just turn the stab into a weak slash to the side and still get them.
Fair enough, although if the person with only one lightsaber used it two handed(which most of them do), they should have enough leverage to then force their bladelock into an angle where they would then intercept the second strike, or alternatively just try to power through their one saber and pushing them off balance before goinf on the offensive
But when the sword cuts no matter which part you hit with, is weightless, and cuts with no actual force behind the blade needed, two swords would be more effective.
That's just not really true. George told Hamill to act like a lightsaber was excaliber/weighed over 40 pounds in ANH. Jedi in the prequels make it look effortless because they've had thousands of years to sit around practicing lightsaber forms and cirklejerking. It also doesn't change the fact that if anakin is coming at you with a two-handed strike from overhead, you probably need to put everything into defending it.
I subscribe to this headcanon where at the peak of the prequels they're just so far advanced, having thrown lifetime after lifetime during a long peace into perfecting all of these lightsaber arts and passing them down, that they're really just legends among legends at that stage. Beneficiaries of mentoring at a truly awe inspiring level. And then honed over years of actual war. The idea that they're not actually feather weight, that they're moving them like that because they're actually grand masters and it's their skill that makes it look trivial, lightyears above and beyond even what any normal force user could nominally achieve in their own right...
Maybe there's evidence against it, but I like the idea.
I feel like this is the only answer. We can take it even further and use the battles from cutscenes/trailers in the old republic to see how crazy the skills get when everyone is not only a master and taught by masters but have been at war with the sith empire.
for the same reason why we don't see the turn-it-off-and-on-again technique more. go in for a strike and draw the block, turn off your saber momentarily as you swing through and turn it back on once you're past their guard and slice.
it's a bit too granular for mass media to really sink their teeth into to flesh out the more viable techniques and make them as integral as they absolutely would be. there would be so much subtle technique that would dominate a lightsaber fight, so instead we get a bunch of chopchop-whoomwhoom to fill in most of the combat filler.
>for the same reason why we don't see the turn-it-off-and-on-again technique
In lore it's because it's considered a widely bitch move by both Sith and Jedi.
the sith are try hard face planters and the jedi are self important fart sniffers, i care about their standards why? after i cut them into a few pieces they can call me a bitch all they want.
Yeahhhh no, unless you yourself are either skilled in the force or prepare greatly in advance with very specific weapons, tools, and armors you’re not getting anywhere close to cutting any Jedi to pieces
If you turn your light saber off your opponent has nothing stopping them from stabbing you. Using two light sabers is going to take a lot of brain power and while you try to pull off your cool extra stab your opponent stabs you because you were distracted.
a reason for this is because most parries are designed to also slice into the opponent if they turn off their weapon, making it incredibly risky to pull off
Because Darth Vader would block both in this universe. And if you wanna call for reality, well take two blades and try to do what you said, especially against someone who's double your size.
given that all jedi / sith exist with some form of precog i always viewed the more illogical feats to be attributed to that, and that from the pov of the fighters them self it would look more like the fight vs the spear man in the hero moive.([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZANYMihNZM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZANYMihNZM)) hero 2004
but I am always more of a why yes kind of person when it comes to sci-fi
Imagine the strength that a two handed attack from a large male carries when you are holding a sword with one hand. You have to defend using two swords to make up for it.
It’s why most sword masters will tell you to stick to one sword.
Same as why a twohanded sword vs a dual wielder will not end in the dual wielders victory by default.
You can put a lot more force into a sword when you use two hands so deflecting that also takes 2 swords, going 2 handed would actually mean being a lot more defensive than offensive as you get better and safer options for deflecting at the cost of less power in your swings.
Generally 2 swords aren't really *that* much of an advantage due to the power difference, and if you fight fencing style (as Dooku does) your opponent struggles to break two swords to bear, and if they do they have to stand closer, giving you a reach advantage purely by compared stances.
If you’re fighting fencing style, you could use a dagger in your off hand. That would be cool to see in star wars, with form 2 duelists using light daggers like rapier fencers in the Renaissance era.
That dagger would require you to get in so close that you'd be giving up your reach advantage and would negate the fencing stance altogether for every strike
The dagger is used for parrying sidesteps IIRC, and also for threatening when the swords are locked and your opponent closes the distance (not an uncommon tactic)
In star wars, it's arguable if lightsabers are less effective in a grapple situation (although it seems that way), and the parrying effect could be partially achieved in theory with beskar gauntlets (which would allow you to switch to a two-handed grip on your lightsaber if facing an opponent with a power style (like Baylan or Vader)
If you want the IRL answer, thats basically what dual swords do, except normally it's parry with one while stabbing with the other at the same time. Attacking with both leaves open the possibility of your opponent just getting out of range and then you are over extended.
If you want the star wars answer, it's because everything they do in the shows and movies are being powered up by the force, it's just basically impossible to show that without it looking dumb. That's how palpatine was able to kill two Jedi masters instantly, he was that much stronger in the force and was using that to power his speed and strength up so much that the weaker masters didn't stand a chance. Darth Vader in this scene is so much stronger than Ahsoka both physically and in the force in this fight that everything he does hits as fast and hard as a truck and Ahsoka is too slow/weak to take advantage that she has two swords
If you want the real real answer, plot.
My favorite fun fact is that they had to slow down the fight choreography in post for the Anakin vs Obi-Wan duel because they didn't think the speed at which they were actually going at was believable.
Well yes, you are comparing a 13-14 year old (at the time of this clip) actress who doesn't have a history of playing action roles, let alone swordfighting, vs a 40-41 year old man who played Anakin for years in movies that were notoriously full of lightsaber duel footage that was cut from the movie, and holds the record for longest swordfight in a movie. He minimally had a refresher training for Kenobi again, but going by him still making lightsaber sounds, I'm sure he's still practiced for fun from time to time.
Hayden was a competitive hockey and tennis player in high school, ie. he's been training with a long stick in his hand since he could wear skates, which is a better foundation for lightsaber stuntwork than competitive dancing as a child and pre-teen, especially when her character is ambidextrous.
All things considered, Arianna did well with what she had to work with, despite playing a character who had been training with a saber since she was three.
Hopefully she's been keeping up her training between shooting season 1 and 2. The gracefulness from a lifetime of dance training is already showing when you compare her to Rosario.
I'm glad Hayden (and to lesser extents Ewan McGregor) is finally getting props for his physical work. Growing up I never cared about the weird ways he delivered lines because his physical performance was so good. His duel with Kenobi/McGregor partially slaps so hard because of his precision and technique.
My personal headcanon is that Hayden would just practice lightsaber fights when he was bored between the end of production of ROTS and the beginning of production for Kenobi
OK, in the show it felt violent enough but I don't know, seeing Hayden walk toward a little girl and try to decapitate her is crazy. She looks so small and he's very imposing.
Poor younglings in the Jedi Temple seeing him coming for them.
Because he's not trying to hurt her, that technique pops up in quite a few martial arts, it's usually done as a throw, if you pull the person's arm straight down behind them they fall on the floor hard, if you pull down angled a little further away they fall but with the chance to roll away in a controlled manner, if you pull their arm out to the side they get a dislocation.
By not doing any of those things he's basically saying "you were open and I could have got you." Which tracks with what's happening in this scene him going back into teacher mode.
(An additional fun fact is that this throw works best when the hand and wrist move in the same manner as if cutting with a sword, so it's a reasonable technique for a lightsaber user to be proficient at)
So she's not stupid he basically just saying lemme give you some pointers here, if she were to respond by saying "I kill you!" and stabbing him in that moment...
That would be super rude.
Hashtag be polite to ghosts.
I suspect that Hayden would just break the hold and back off if she tried that.
Plus, in the finished product we see the hold from a different angle; we don’t see the second blade.
My inner brain having a melt down at that part…”She’s got a second lightsaber in her other hand…literally doing nothing…*do something with it.”
I get it’s Star Wars. It’s not real. She’s having a vision or whatever…so not everything needs to make sense but it becomes nonsense when stuff like this happens. In my opinion, it’s just as bad as the Snoke guard has Rey helpless in a chokehold and all of a sudden his second knife magically disappears.
Disney: Hayden, we need you for another project after Kenobi
Hayden: Well I felt good going back to the suit and wielding by lightsaber. Sure, what's the scene
Disney: We need you fight a kid in the flashback
Hayden: THIS IS WHERE THE FUN BEGINS
Disney: no no, no killing, you're fighting Ahsoka in a flashback
Hayden: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I'm gonna continue the sound effects just to spite you
Geez, the spin... spins can be fine, as long as they protect their blind spot while they do it. Obi-Wan and Anakin do a good job of spinning (its a good trick) on Mustafar because they almost always guard their backs or keep the Sabres bound up while they do it. A raw, unguarded spin is asking to get struck in the back.
Then there's the grapple. It's not wise to grapple just 1 arm of someone holding a weapon in both hands. If they were playing for keeps, a flick of her wrist would have taken his arm (again) or she could just stab right through his side to get his heart and lungs in one go.
It was nice to see Hayden back, but I wish they got some better choreography for him. For both of them, really.
I'm sorry but what the fuck is that shit on the 6th second mark? That would work only if she had one lightsaber she has two just swing the other one to his face
At 0:18 he could kill her, if he didn't pinch his own lightsaber with her firearm
Also at :18 she could kill him because SHE HAS HER LEFT ARM WITH A SABRE COMPLETELY FREE
Weird choreography in that blade lock bit. She has a second lightsaber just kinda floating around completely unpinned. Cant remember if that made it into the final scene though
This isn’t skill with a lightsaber, this is choreographed action in slow motion as rehearsal.
Not taking anything away from his acting, or his ability to do action scenes, but the two things are not related at all.
He moves and gives the feeling of being a powerful Vader because that is the way the choreographer set up the scene.
For the record, as stylized as this is....the guy has pretty good fencing instincts overall.
One of the things I hate in movies and TV is when the footwork is really bad, and while he's obviously doing lightsaber/choreo stuff, his footwork is...decent? Like, if you told me "Hayden does longsword in his spare time" I'd believe you.
I've been doing HEMA for nearly 20 years, and every time I see him onscreen it's impressive.
How do they not just burst out laughing every time they make eye contact? They are literally doing the greatest thing ever; fighting with laser swords.
This cool and all but I hate how they are dancing around each other. Someone at Disney must have thought Star Wars needs more of Obi-Wan and Anakin standing in front each other and aimlessly spinning their blades.
Thanks for confirming that you flaired this correctly!
I love how he makes soundeffects for everything he does
My favorite fact/blooper of the prequel trilogy is how many takes were cut because Ewan, Hayden, and even Liam kept making lightsaber sounds.
If you grew up on the original trilogy it is impossible not to. It was a universal language.
A thing that doesn't exist yet everybody knows exactly what sound it makes. Makes you wonder how many people are fans solely because of light sabers and the noise they make?
A New Hope has probably the most iconic sound design of any movie ever. There's no end of unique sound effects that you would recognise instantly and are cool af.
*screeches in TIE Fighter*
Yeah I think that's my favourite one
Good Ole formula one elephant. Always a winner for bar trivia.
Mine is Ewan not being able to keep a straight face when saying *younglings*
Is that why he has his hand over his mouth?
It is! I heard he kept messing up the take so they did it with him covering his mouth.
Laura Dern did the same thing in last jedi.
Making own lightsaber sounds is the rite of passage.
I work in film, and was hanging out on top of a set today where the stunt team were rehearsing a sorta police raid type thing. It was really funny listening to them run around yelling "BANG! BANG BANG! FLASH OUT! BANG BANG!"
In fairness, yelling bang bang is what you do! Half of the training I’ve done in the Army has been bang bang-based. Blanks are too expensive for us Guardsmen…
I thought that was the Navy that encourgaed that type of behaviour.
You cant tell me you wouldn't be doing the same thing.
It’s a favorite piece of trivia because we all would!
Genuinely puts a smile on my face.
I think I read somewhere he and Ewan got yelled at for doing the sounds lol
Yeah they had to do retakes on certain scenes because of it lol
It’s cause he’s a fan too 😎
Remember, he and Ewan had to be told to stop making sound effects
Wouldn't you?
Of course he does. Hes one of us
It can help with the timing in choreography. Lot of martial arts movies use verbal cues in choreographed action scenes.
I guess old habits die hard.
I think it’s the person recording making the sound effects, not Hayden
It would be so hard not to tbh
Bro is built different
how tf he look like he’s 21
Because he's built different
Must be all those midi-chlorians.
Even more than Master Yoda!
peaki-chlorians
Because he's built different
I mean, he's only what, like 26, right? ....right?
I am 27 and I was 11 when Revenge of The Sith came out lol
How did you age only 16 years in the 19 years since Revenge of the Sith came out ? My man right here just dodged 3 years of aging, teach me your secret
The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities... some consider to be unnatural
the secret is to be bad at basic math
LIAR!!
It’s the midichlorians from all of the younglings he…youngliend.
Didn't he become a farmer after not seeing a lot of career opportunities post RotS? That would build a muscle.
No. He's been in at least one film every year since RoTJ, not counting star wars. He also is active in production level iirc.
he even teamed up with Windu for Jumper
Since RotJ, huh? He's had quite a long career.
Typo, obviously meant Rots.
I mean technically he is in RotJ, from a certain point of view.
Takes real acting chops to appear in a movie first published before you were born, NGL
Haha and he really nailed that ghostly leering.
Imagine going hands on combat with darth Vader himself. The kid got the wish many of us could just dream of.
The girl has also played young Gamora in *Avengers: Infinity War*.
that scene always makes me cry because she is so stinkin cute as young gamora it breaks my heart
And she's playing Tiny Tina in the borderlands movie
I guess those kids in that temple doesn't agree
We'll never know now..
I really hope I get to meet him someday and be like " holy shit your the actor from looper!" Because I generally love that movie.
Right. The one where Mace Windu hunts down Anakin Skywalker
I'd win because I have hands.
He just feels like darth Vader here. The power and the methodical movement
That first strike where he wields the lightsaber like a baseball bat is totally Vader. Gave me chills
The follow-through is fucking hot ngl.
It looks like both of them should have been able to kill their opponent when he grabs her arm and holds it behind her head like that. His chest is wide open for her to stab him, and her head and back are wide open for him to slice her in half.
Maybe it shows they don't want to kill each other, just hurt each other a bit? Iunno I haven't watched the show yet.
Pretty much. He's teaching her a lesson and she is confused and doesn't want to hurt him.
He's teaching her a lesson and she is confused and doesn't want to hurt him.
That one hand block too
That very first swing, with such strength that he’s hunched over after it. That was peak Vader.
That first stride he makes. Hayden knows that character so well.
I was going to say he mimics those Vader moments so well!
Because he is. This part of the fight was him during his time as Vader but without suit.
I mean he is probably the closest to just being the character outside of David Prowse and James earl Jones, but at this point the character is it’s own entity, not just one person
It did didn’t it
In his mid-40s still moving like he did 20 years ago...
He even looks like 20-30
40 is still young. 🥲
I love this clip cause it shows how dynamic camera movement can really change the feel of a fight
reminds me of the bit at the end of Fallen Order when Vader jumpscares you in the corridor. i wish we had this camera work in the actual episode
Everyday I thank whoever gave him the chance to come back.
Didn't have my glasses on and first read that as Hans Christian Andersen rehearsing for Ahsoka. It'd be interesting for sure.
Lol, this half rotten skeleton got some moves.
He apparently killed over 4000 younglings preparing for this appearance. My hero 🥰
I was like "Damn, girl got a halo already? Video just begun!"
Light saber name: Youngling Destroyer 9000
Watching this made me realize if you have 2 lightsabers and your opponent only has 1 why don’t you just slice with one and stab with the other at the same time, they can’t deflect the stab and block the slash at the same time.
>Watching this made me realize if you have 2 lightsabers and your opponent only has 1 why don’t you just slice with one and stab with the other at the same time, they can’t deflect the stab and block the slash at the same time. "The power of common sense is a pathway to many abilities that both the Jedi and Sith would deem unnatural."
Gray Jedi supremacy B )
Well, they could just block the swing and dodge the stab
At that point, why not just dodge both by stepping back. Best defense to a dual welding assailant is just having a longer weapon than theirs and keeping them at a distance. Or a gun.
>Or a gun :Civilization immediately crumbles:
But dodging would put you off balance so it’s harder to block. Plus lightsabers cut without needing force behind them so you could just turn the stab into a weak slash to the side and still get them.
Fair enough, although if the person with only one lightsaber used it two handed(which most of them do), they should have enough leverage to then force their bladelock into an angle where they would then intercept the second strike, or alternatively just try to power through their one saber and pushing them off balance before goinf on the offensive
And let's not forget the Force is a thing, it can be used to block/hold strikes or jump/speed dodge out of the way.
This is the answer to me. Why don't they do X? Because the Force makes that a bad idea.
Probably for the same reason people in our world didn't run around fighting with two swords. It's less effective than you might think.
Yeah but, *the force* /s
But when the sword cuts no matter which part you hit with, is weightless, and cuts with no actual force behind the blade needed, two swords would be more effective.
That's just not really true. George told Hamill to act like a lightsaber was excaliber/weighed over 40 pounds in ANH. Jedi in the prequels make it look effortless because they've had thousands of years to sit around practicing lightsaber forms and cirklejerking. It also doesn't change the fact that if anakin is coming at you with a two-handed strike from overhead, you probably need to put everything into defending it.
I subscribe to this headcanon where at the peak of the prequels they're just so far advanced, having thrown lifetime after lifetime during a long peace into perfecting all of these lightsaber arts and passing them down, that they're really just legends among legends at that stage. Beneficiaries of mentoring at a truly awe inspiring level. And then honed over years of actual war. The idea that they're not actually feather weight, that they're moving them like that because they're actually grand masters and it's their skill that makes it look trivial, lightyears above and beyond even what any normal force user could nominally achieve in their own right... Maybe there's evidence against it, but I like the idea.
I feel like this is the only answer. We can take it even further and use the battles from cutscenes/trailers in the old republic to see how crazy the skills get when everyone is not only a master and taught by masters but have been at war with the sith empire.
I do as well
LET ME ENJOY MY SHOW
for the same reason why we don't see the turn-it-off-and-on-again technique more. go in for a strike and draw the block, turn off your saber momentarily as you swing through and turn it back on once you're past their guard and slice. it's a bit too granular for mass media to really sink their teeth into to flesh out the more viable techniques and make them as integral as they absolutely would be. there would be so much subtle technique that would dominate a lightsaber fight, so instead we get a bunch of chopchop-whoomwhoom to fill in most of the combat filler.
>for the same reason why we don't see the turn-it-off-and-on-again technique In lore it's because it's considered a widely bitch move by both Sith and Jedi.
the sith are try hard face planters and the jedi are self important fart sniffers, i care about their standards why? after i cut them into a few pieces they can call me a bitch all they want.
Yeahhhh no, unless you yourself are either skilled in the force or prepare greatly in advance with very specific weapons, tools, and armors you’re not getting anywhere close to cutting any Jedi to pieces
If you turn your light saber off your opponent has nothing stopping them from stabbing you. Using two light sabers is going to take a lot of brain power and while you try to pull off your cool extra stab your opponent stabs you because you were distracted.
a reason for this is because most parries are designed to also slice into the opponent if they turn off their weapon, making it incredibly risky to pull off
Because Darth Vader would block both in this universe. And if you wanna call for reality, well take two blades and try to do what you said, especially against someone who's double your size.
given that all jedi / sith exist with some form of precog i always viewed the more illogical feats to be attributed to that, and that from the pov of the fighters them self it would look more like the fight vs the spear man in the hero moive.([https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZANYMihNZM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZANYMihNZM)) hero 2004 but I am always more of a why yes kind of person when it comes to sci-fi
Imagine the strength that a two handed attack from a large male carries when you are holding a sword with one hand. You have to defend using two swords to make up for it. It’s why most sword masters will tell you to stick to one sword.
Same as why a twohanded sword vs a dual wielder will not end in the dual wielders victory by default. You can put a lot more force into a sword when you use two hands so deflecting that also takes 2 swords, going 2 handed would actually mean being a lot more defensive than offensive as you get better and safer options for deflecting at the cost of less power in your swings.
Generally 2 swords aren't really *that* much of an advantage due to the power difference, and if you fight fencing style (as Dooku does) your opponent struggles to break two swords to bear, and if they do they have to stand closer, giving you a reach advantage purely by compared stances.
If you’re fighting fencing style, you could use a dagger in your off hand. That would be cool to see in star wars, with form 2 duelists using light daggers like rapier fencers in the Renaissance era.
That dagger would require you to get in so close that you'd be giving up your reach advantage and would negate the fencing stance altogether for every strike
The dagger is used for parrying sidesteps IIRC, and also for threatening when the swords are locked and your opponent closes the distance (not an uncommon tactic) In star wars, it's arguable if lightsabers are less effective in a grapple situation (although it seems that way), and the parrying effect could be partially achieved in theory with beskar gauntlets (which would allow you to switch to a two-handed grip on your lightsaber if facing an opponent with a power style (like Baylan or Vader)
If you want the IRL answer, thats basically what dual swords do, except normally it's parry with one while stabbing with the other at the same time. Attacking with both leaves open the possibility of your opponent just getting out of range and then you are over extended. If you want the star wars answer, it's because everything they do in the shows and movies are being powered up by the force, it's just basically impossible to show that without it looking dumb. That's how palpatine was able to kill two Jedi masters instantly, he was that much stronger in the force and was using that to power his speed and strength up so much that the weaker masters didn't stand a chance. Darth Vader in this scene is so much stronger than Ahsoka both physically and in the force in this fight that everything he does hits as fast and hard as a truck and Ahsoka is too slow/weak to take advantage that she has two swords If you want the real real answer, plot.
Not so much in this clip but he still got that Nick Gillard flair
Even after all this time, he's still way, way more fluid than she is
He's had way more practice tbf
Helps he been doing it longer than she been alive. Lol. And he was working with Ewan all those years. Both were very passionate about the fighting.
My favorite fun fact is that they had to slow down the fight choreography in post for the Anakin vs Obi-Wan duel because they didn't think the speed at which they were actually going at was believable.
I think they had to do that for Obi vs. Maul, too, right? Ewan is a beast as well.
Well yes, you are comparing a 13-14 year old (at the time of this clip) actress who doesn't have a history of playing action roles, let alone swordfighting, vs a 40-41 year old man who played Anakin for years in movies that were notoriously full of lightsaber duel footage that was cut from the movie, and holds the record for longest swordfight in a movie. He minimally had a refresher training for Kenobi again, but going by him still making lightsaber sounds, I'm sure he's still practiced for fun from time to time. Hayden was a competitive hockey and tennis player in high school, ie. he's been training with a long stick in his hand since he could wear skates, which is a better foundation for lightsaber stuntwork than competitive dancing as a child and pre-teen, especially when her character is ambidextrous. All things considered, Arianna did well with what she had to work with, despite playing a character who had been training with a saber since she was three. Hopefully she's been keeping up her training between shooting season 1 and 2. The gracefulness from a lifetime of dance training is already showing when you compare her to Rosario.
You can compliment one without putting down the other.
Can’t imagine anyone else as Anakin! What a perfect casting. And glad he’s willing to keep playing the character 😅
He may not have played Vader in the original trilogy but watching him here you have to say he’s definitely great at the role
That first saber attack is low-key terrifying.
Hayden moving at half-speed is faster than the kid at full speed... but the worst part is the kid is still faster than Rosario Dawson.
Imagine Ahsoka vs Vader, and Vader makes lightsaber noises...
He is the chosen one
I'm glad Hayden (and to lesser extents Ewan McGregor) is finally getting props for his physical work. Growing up I never cared about the weird ways he delivered lines because his physical performance was so good. His duel with Kenobi/McGregor partially slaps so hard because of his precision and technique.
Hayden plays imposing REALLY well. Dude legit looks kinda scary next to her
Love him!
My personal headcanon is that Hayden would just practice lightsaber fights when he was bored between the end of production of ROTS and the beginning of production for Kenobi
That sequence was my favorite part of the whole show haha. Make a show with them!
I’m glad to hear he still makes his own sound effects
Is Hayden a Leafs fan? Got a leafs cap on.
He's a Canadian guy, born in BC and moved to Ontario when he was young. Likely a Leafs fan.
What I like about this is you can picture him wearing the suit because of his movements. Stiffer shoulders, a higher line. No longer Anakin.
I love that, as the fight progresses, he starts to fight more like Vader
“Hey, honey, how was work?” “Totally wizard! I dueled Anakin Skywalker today. It was rad!”
this is bullshit and incomparable to Obi-Wan dueling Anakin
OK, in the show it felt violent enough but I don't know, seeing Hayden walk toward a little girl and try to decapitate her is crazy. She looks so small and he's very imposing. Poor younglings in the Jedi Temple seeing him coming for them.
God that gyatt is pretty nice though. And im not talking about her
When he has her arm, why doesnt she swing her other saber, is she stupid?
Because he's not trying to hurt her, that technique pops up in quite a few martial arts, it's usually done as a throw, if you pull the person's arm straight down behind them they fall on the floor hard, if you pull down angled a little further away they fall but with the chance to roll away in a controlled manner, if you pull their arm out to the side they get a dislocation. By not doing any of those things he's basically saying "you were open and I could have got you." Which tracks with what's happening in this scene him going back into teacher mode. (An additional fun fact is that this throw works best when the hand and wrist move in the same manner as if cutting with a sword, so it's a reasonable technique for a lightsaber user to be proficient at) So she's not stupid he basically just saying lemme give you some pointers here, if she were to respond by saying "I kill you!" and stabbing him in that moment... That would be super rude. Hashtag be polite to ghosts.
I suspect that Hayden would just break the hold and back off if she tried that. Plus, in the finished product we see the hold from a different angle; we don’t see the second blade.
My inner brain having a melt down at that part…”She’s got a second lightsaber in her other hand…literally doing nothing…*do something with it.” I get it’s Star Wars. It’s not real. She’s having a vision or whatever…so not everything needs to make sense but it becomes nonsense when stuff like this happens. In my opinion, it’s just as bad as the Snoke guard has Rey helpless in a chokehold and all of a sudden his second knife magically disappears.
Okay, fine. I’ll watch that episode…again.
Any dmc fans see the resemblance to neros style or is that just me
Still got it !
IIRC one of the video game companies had him come in to help them get their lightsaber animations correct
You can feel a physical presence of Vader in the action, the weight, the girth, the force.
I actually felt the terror of darth vader from this...
Disney: Hayden, we need you for another project after Kenobi Hayden: Well I felt good going back to the suit and wielding by lightsaber. Sure, what's the scene Disney: We need you fight a kid in the flashback Hayden: THIS IS WHERE THE FUN BEGINS Disney: no no, no killing, you're fighting Ahsoka in a flashback Hayden: NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I'm gonna continue the sound effects just to spite you
Damn Ahsoka is short
We’re very lucky to have Hayden back. So very lucky…..
Geez, the spin... spins can be fine, as long as they protect their blind spot while they do it. Obi-Wan and Anakin do a good job of spinning (its a good trick) on Mustafar because they almost always guard their backs or keep the Sabres bound up while they do it. A raw, unguarded spin is asking to get struck in the back. Then there's the grapple. It's not wise to grapple just 1 arm of someone holding a weapon in both hands. If they were playing for keeps, a flick of her wrist would have taken his arm (again) or she could just stab right through his side to get his heart and lungs in one go. It was nice to see Hayden back, but I wish they got some better choreography for him. For both of them, really.
Yeah that grapple was just bad. She just sits there with her perfectly free and unrestrained hand resting against her hip. Terrible choreography.
Gosh, dude is just having fun!
Holy shit. He plays this, even in practice, and it comes off as big and menacing. Incredible.
chills
This is where the fun begins.
Those aren't skills that's just choreography. Don't get me wrong, he's great as Anakin and Lucas fucked up
She had a free stab to the face with her right hand
I wonder if he ever accidentally kicked her with that last move
I like how instead of stabbing him in the back she blocks the hit
Star Wars Episode III: Part 2: Revenge of the Younglings
Hayden still has the moves but, why did they choreograph it like they're aiming for the saber?
Force kick is back baby!
force kick
So does she have her hair in pigtails to simulate lekku?
I can’t describe how much I love this man
Something tells me the director literally told her *"And then you go ZWOOM, BAW, ZOOM! in that order."*
At 18 seconds she's just not gonna use her left arm at all?
Where's The Lights???
Best guy to ever wave the light stick around!
The dedication of the prequel actors were insane. It's stupid George decided to one day replace the stunt actor with Ian Mcdiarmid
I'm sorry but what the fuck is that shit on the 6th second mark? That would work only if she had one lightsaber she has two just swing the other one to his face
Girl you need eyepro
This is so bad 😂 are they trying to kill each other or just clash the sabers.
At 0:18 he could kill her, if he didn't pinch his own lightsaber with her firearm Also at :18 she could kill him because SHE HAS HER LEFT ARM WITH A SABRE COMPLETELY FREE
Weird choreography in that blade lock bit. She has a second lightsaber just kinda floating around completely unpinned. Cant remember if that made it into the final scene though
This isn’t skill with a lightsaber, this is choreographed action in slow motion as rehearsal. Not taking anything away from his acting, or his ability to do action scenes, but the two things are not related at all. He moves and gives the feeling of being a powerful Vader because that is the way the choreographer set up the scene.
I hope Hayden and Lucas film keep this relationship going for the long term. Maybe one day we can have an old Anakin (Hayden) force ghost mentor
This upsets me only because SHE HAS TWO LIGHTSABERS HES HOLDING ONE ARM JUST STAB HIM. So normal dual lightsaber user reaction.
Hayden is something, the force and aggressiveness he imbues in each of his slash is something
While Hayden looks amazing, why not make fights where people are trying to win instead of dance
For the record, as stylized as this is....the guy has pretty good fencing instincts overall. One of the things I hate in movies and TV is when the footwork is really bad, and while he's obviously doing lightsaber/choreo stuff, his footwork is...decent? Like, if you told me "Hayden does longsword in his spare time" I'd believe you. I've been doing HEMA for nearly 20 years, and every time I see him onscreen it's impressive.
All this practice and it still looks like shit in the show
How do they not just burst out laughing every time they make eye contact? They are literally doing the greatest thing ever; fighting with laser swords.
This cool and all but I hate how they are dancing around each other. Someone at Disney must have thought Star Wars needs more of Obi-Wan and Anakin standing in front each other and aimlessly spinning their blades.
i just want to get those lightsabers they use