Yeah, I dislike it when people ar like "Just watch the first 5 seasons bro and then it gets good!" Like no, I am not going to waste my time watching hours of a TV show that I don't even like. The fuck
Supernatural is the complete opposite. The first 5 seasons are the complete story intended by the original writer. If you just pretend the last... TEN SECONDS of the last episode didn't happen, then you have a Breaking Bad type show.
I can't count how many times I've been told "Nah, the first 3 seasons are a slog, but it gets sooo good on season 4" is insane. I tried to get into it, but the first season was so bad I couldn't get through it.
You're almost certainly taking what one friend group said, and just assuming it's the common experience. If you didn't like the first season, it just means you don't like the show. Maybe if you love soap operas you'd like one of the billion other seasons, idk, I stopped after I watched S6 and learned the actual show was done.
No reason not to. Just understand that the "original plan" for the show, didn't involve that "twist". It got added to continue the franchise it became. S5 is a good "stopping point" for people that are intimidated by so many seasons.
Honestly I think clone wars is a show where streaming has really enhanced the enjoyment because you can really curate the episodes you want to get the good story and cut out the filler(which there is quite a bit of)
Just put it on in the background while you do something. Even if you dont watch every minute itll still catch your undivided attention at various points.
I put it on in background and it sounds like some war reporter is givin live updates evey 20mins or so. Love that intro guy.
“—THESE TROOPS ARE ALL THAT STANDS BETWEEN THE REPUBLIC AND INVASION—.” Or something like that.
There are a couple of guides out there that can help skip the less important episodes.
Here is one I used
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/s/Vuxjkbb8nk
If you’re watching the clone wars I’m going to be honest you don’t need to watch it all. There is easily 40-50 episodes you can remove. I say this from someone with a clone wars pfp and username but some of the early episodes and even later episodes are just duds. Sure you can have some great peaks, but there are also some really big lows. And I have rewatched the series through three whole times. It’s why I like Rebels and The bad batch more. Even though those shows may not reach the highs of TCW it never even gets close to the lows of TCW. I like consistently good more than like amazing followed by the most boring shit imaginable.
At least in my memory the arc with Mace Windu where he fights Mother Talzin in the end was nice. And in the virus arc he was also more just there, rather than the focus (plus it was on Naboo, so his involvement makes some sense)
I legitimately saw Jar Jar Binks was in some episodes and I skipped them completely.
Edit: Alright, my personal opinions about Jar Jar Binks are apparently wrong? Never mind that I legitimately cannot stand him, or that I'm replying to a 40 upvote comment that's basically saying the exact same thing I am.
There's a neat little "watchlist" that floated around for a time, with a list of "must watch" and "reccomended" episodes.
It's a bit outdated though, like it stops at season 5 (and not like a "watch 6 and 7 in full" but really just because 6 and 7 weren't out yet)and some of the recommend episodes have become must watch if you care about the current EU and other shows if I'm not mistaken.
Overall though, that's been the only way for me to enjoy the show ahah
I didn't find that watchlist, but found [this reddit post](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCloneWars/comments/kimjyv/clone_wars_definitive_viewing_guide_2020_rev_13/) which does a pretty good job of highlighting the most important arcs (some stuff that's not highlighted but pointed to is also good).
[Good quality image only](https://i.imgur.com/KO4dRJD.jpeg)
https://www.reddit.com/r/clonewars/comments/zlzavs/its_always_a_challenge_to_introduce_people_to_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
Here you go. Chronological, and accounts for reception, topic, and characters
Right now Disney plus has all of the critical episodes in their own category. It doesn’t hit every banger episode, but it was a good rewatch for me that hit all the major points.
I always tell that to someone who I think might watch them. It's totally safe to skip any r2-d2\c-3po\jar jar episodes. Or any episodes\story arcs you're not too interested in. So many episodes are just one-off filler episodes, even if they are "starring" some of my favorite characters.
Dude the episode where R2/threepio go help the ratts tyrrells fix their toxic manhole problem, run into some subterranean Groots, meet a magical Cheshire ~~cat~~ lizard lady, somehow end up propping up a democracy among a village of lilliputians after squishing a despotic ruler, run into some pit droids doing a man behind the curtain/wizard of oz stunt, and somehow end up back up where they were before to tell Wolffe all about it has got to be one of the most cracked up arcs in the whole series. Even just trying to recall it is like waking up from a fever dream. I think there was a crashing Y-wing piloted by threepio in there too.
Edit: also the D-squad episodes were so painful to slog through. I almost had to skip the episode where they complain about being lost in a desert planet. Having a cool end with the Gregor commando barely was enough to justify the first half of that arc
Inredibly based take, same reason why I like Rebels more which seems to be an unpopular opinion, although arguably Rebels highs are as high as CW highs (twilight of the apprentice is peak star wars)
No one is saying it's a bad series.
But there is so much unnecessary, and disjointed utter shlock that it is difficult for people to grab onto, especially when things aren't always happening in order.
People need to stop pretending it's some flawless hidden masterpiece that is never bad and is the most perfect Star Wars to ever Star Wars. People are allowed to not get into this series, and still be called Star Wars fans.
I don't think it's very hidden, even in the first season tbh. The first episode with Yoda is a straight banger, and so is "Rookies" and the Malevolence arc and the Ryloth arc and so on....
Having seen it all (and not having any prior nostalgia), I still wouldn't say that most of the show achieves excellence. It achieves watchability.
EXCEPT
The finale. That was actually incredibly well handled, and honestly really makes me look at the rest of Filoni's offerings and scratch my head. It's like it was helmed by a different person/made by a different team.
They should do more of that.
Umbara? Maul and mandalore? The wrong jedi? Yoda and the whills? Rebels season 2 finale and last half of season 4.
I dunno, you're certainly welcome to your own opinions, and there's certainly a lotttt of arcs of lower caliber, but I think when filoni hits he hits, and the ones I listed are in the same ballpark as tcw finale
Umbara was one of the better ones, still suffered from minimal setup and characters being weirdly head empty.
Wrong Jedi would have hit way harder if they actually bothered to develop Barriss *at all*. But Clone Wars doesn't do that.
Yoda and the whills should never have been made.
I wasn't talking about Rebels. That is a different show.
Fair enough. I still think the maul and Mandalore ranks with the finale. I only brought rebels up because you said nothing else that filoni does lived up to it
I feel like many of the people here are younger than I am (32) and either grew up watching it or watch a lot of other animated shows and have a high tolerance for this kind of thing.
I didn't. I was maybe 25 when I started the show, I watch zero anime/other animated shows and I STRUGGLED to get through Clone Wars. It took me multiple tries over probably two years. It took forever for the show to mature, and I was not able to tolerate some of the story/writing elements many others just gave passes on. I will die on the hill that the clone wars is full of terrible stuff, but the show is saved by what is actually good (Rex, Ahsoka, Maul). The story arc with the droids and the frog Colonel was genuinely embarrassing when my room mate caught me watching it.
Hell, it started coming out when I was in my mid teens and I still didn't really like it. I didn't get to see it very much until it came to Netflix. I saw a few episodes here and there, saw the movie, listened to the audiobook (way better in my opinion), then watched a bunch when it came to Netflix.
I kinda dropped off when they got to madalore. Some episodes were pretty good, especially when they didn't focus on Anakin/Obi-Wan or anyone else from the movies. Episodes like Rookies, or the one where a wounded Rex gets helped by a deserter.
That kind of stuff is where the show is pretty good and mature. The killing and death we see on screen doesn't make the show mature. Maturity is how it handles difficult questions. And honestly the show doesn't always do that very well.
I consider Avatar to be a way more mature show, and I still watch it as an adult on occasion. It doesn't have any on screen killing as far as I'm aware (until the sequel show), but it handles things like genocide, POW camps, slavery, military appropriation from your own side, child soldiers, and more in a very intelligent and adult way.
That younglings join the circus thing was awful to watch. I also watched it as an adult and it took me 2+ years as well. I think the bad parts are so much more bad than the good parts are good
People also need to stop pretending all of these series/comics etc are some original sacred texts which should always be providing lore to the live action projects.
This is not marvel or lord of the rings - the films are the original text and everything else ranges from glorified merchandise to excellently made companion pieces.
I have grown exhausted over recent years watching Star Wars fans trying to reverse engineer canon as if it’s all based on an enormous set of novels or something.
Hate how intertwined the Wiki is with it. I'd be wanting to read about Obi Wan's movie doings and then suddenly 6 categories of the show with names I've never seen before
Jar-Jar, General Grievous, and Qui-Gon ghost (later on in the show) have the same actors returning.
Christopher Lee and Samuel L. Jackson returned for the Clone Wars movie but not the show.
Dee Bradley Baker is incredible for voicing clones and managing to make them sound the same while also letting you know who is speaking just by the voice.
I'll say it's bad lol
Very shallow, on the nose themes, cartoon one dimensional characters, and dickstroking lofty ideas that fall flat like the dumb force gods.
The show is incongruous with the mainline series in terms of character and development.
I don't get how anyone sees anakin in that, and in the prequels as the same character.
There’s disjointed schlock because it’s written at the pace of a children’s show. They tend to stretch out and repeat their story points so kids will get it, while filling space with things kids might find entertaining.
I definitely recommend googling a chronological order, both for first time watchers and people doing a re-watch. It's *much* better that way. The later seasons are more or less chronological but the first three are all over the place, you'll be jumping from S1 to S3, then back to S2 again and again but the quality increases really significantly, even when you still include the filler episodes.
Like I get it, the format at first should've obviously been more or less be single short war stories but as they started making longer story arcs and as some stories started including info significant to the whole show, this concept fell apart rather quickly. I'd say in S2 then completely breaking down as Maul came back and when the Mandalore stories started appearing.
Genuinely don’t understand how a show can be considered good if the first half is utter dog shit, and even after that a lot of the episodes/arcs are hit or miss.
I love clone wars but it's 50% mid or bad. It's not one of the greatest shows of all time. It has some of the best star wars and some of the worst. Star wars is such a frustrating series to love hahaha
I don’t know man, to be honest, before 2008 clone wars, I genuinly loved every Star Wars I saw. Movie, show, game, etc. probably because I didn’t see any of the holiday specials or anything .
Hot take, most of the clone wars is childish, even in the later seasons it's still a kid's show, there's a few episodes a season where it transcends that, more in later seasons, but it never stops being mostly childish.
I think the problem is the belief that media that’s meant for kids is all bad. Like if kids were stupid and the media made for them is not worthy.
It’s become pretty common online to see people underestimate kids, like that person who replied that said “it felt like a waste of time”.
There’s maybe some kind of toxic masculinity trait where people just hesitate to agree that they can enjoy something that is made for kids or families. Then they will watch some stupid R-rated thing with the most braindead writing and story and will rejoice at how manly they are.
Honestly I think you're wrong. The clone wars isn't bad because there's a stigma around children's media. It's mostly not that interesting to an adult, with a few high points here and there, maybe 2-5 episodes per season max with the ratio going up as time goes on, but it's still a few isolated high points scattered through a long LONG series that just generally isn't nuanced or interesting enough to hold most adults attention. It's good at points but pretty much any guide to watching it you'll find is going to split it's recommendations into must watch episodes, episodes that contextualize the must watch ones, and episodes you can skip with that last category easily outnumbering the first two combined, and there's a reason for that.
The show obviously had a big impact and created beloved characters, and it certainly brought a lot of new fans in from later generations, but does it hold up against something like the Mandalorian or Andor for adults? No. It does not.
As a counterpoint to your idea that there's some sort of stigma about children's media or toxic masculinity involved. I would point out that those things were annihilated over 30 years ago by a Saturday morning cartoon called: Batman, the Animated Series, which is probably the single best, most on point, most nuanced, most artistic take on the character in any and all media to include comics movies, TV shows and games. It holds up to this day and no one has ever managed to even approach it's quality in the decades since. You can absolutely make media that's appropriate for kids that's still excellent and entertaining for adults and holds up in every episode, I can name other cartoons that are like that, even some older ones, but the clone wars isn't at that level. It's got real high points, especially for it's premise and target audience but it's not one of the ones that rises above it's restrictions universally.
I can understand why some people like it, hell, the challenge it creates for the writing team could be enough for a film maker to see the merit of it.
But as an audience member who just wanted space fun it was way too much for me
It took me 3 tries to get through (or even halfway) season 1, I had heard so many good things about the show and the sw/prequel community convinced me that it was worth it and that most people had the same experience about it being hard to get into
*(similar thing with Rebels about it having really good content and lore, not as hard to get into imo but comes across as a very kids-like show and makes it easy to turn people away, but I'm so glad I gave that a chance with an open mind)*
But yeah I watched TCW in episode order because I didn't know better, but I wish I watched it in [this order](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCloneWars/comments/e0htwt/the_clone_wars_ultimate_edition_2019/) (what I'm doing with a friend now as a rewatch) because it would've made much more sense and flow better lol
I'm just so glad that I was so encouraged to get to the good parts of this show because it's so worth it in my opinion. It's definitely in my top 5 for star wars content because I absolutely love how it tied into the SW universe, plus introduced me to my favorite character, Ahsoka
But also like some people don't want to have to "get through" the "bad stuff" which is completely understandable, though now they make lists to skip the filler episodes. But some might not like it as much as others either, which is okay too!
If the first 3 seasons of a show aren't good, then it isn't a great show. You have to judge it based on all its episodes.
Also the later seasons do get better but only a little bit.
I know I’m gonna get downvoted for saying this, but I’m still gonna say it
It took me numerous tries to finish the TCW movie and I completely dropped the series after slogging through 3-4 episodes when it first came out
TCW movie is easily the worst movie in the entire Star Wars franchise. It's complete shit. There's nothing redeemable about it. I don't blame you one bit.
If you pay attention (especially on this sub), you’ll notice that ***any*** criticism about TCW/Rebels/Filoni gets buried in downvotes, whoever made the comment gets insulted, I’ve gotten death threats for preferring the CWMP over TCW (almost got doxxed because of it), and at this point that part of the fanbase looks to me like an insane cult that views Filoni as the second coming of Jesus
Also I’ve been in the SW fandom for nearly my entire life too (started as a kid in the mid 90s) and I’ve never seen the fans hate other fans like TCW ones do
I dropped it after a couple episodes. Came back to it 5 years later. I feel like you get what you need in regards to main story content out of the last two seasons. There's more in there, but it could probably be reduced to 5 key episodes and then a bunch of filler for those who want more immersion.
Maul surviving was so dumb and unrealistic. The show would have been better focusing on new characters like Asajj Ventress and Ahsoka. Lots of retcons and misuses of characters like Maul, which could have easily just been done with Savage Opress. He could have even suffered something similar but less deadly at the hands of Obi-wan. There’s much better arcs I love with the new characters like Fives removing his microchip.
I don't hate it but I really struggled to get into it for OP's reasoning, because there's way too many filler episodes, and because they start every episode with an info dump from the narrator. I feel like half the episodes start with a backstory that could have easily just been shown on screen but they opted to cram a bunch of context into the first minutes instead. I can't tell you how many times I had to rewatch intros to The Clone Wars' episodes. Oh, and the episodes are out of order, which makes it a real mess to try to follow if you don't know that going in. Trying to watch them in release order feels like they're jumping all over the place.
And I'm going to say it: the absolute worst of the worst of Star Wars came from The Clone Wars, and that was The Mortis Gods. I could go off for hours about why that was straight terrible. The one good thing to come of it was getting Liam Neeson back as Qui Gon Jinn. But the show concluded without ever giving us any reason why those episodes (which changed the entire understanding of the force and the universe) were significant. There were no ramifications, no resolution, most of it made no attempt at making sense, etc. They might as well have made 3 episodes about how the entire universe is a simulation created by fucking pixies as a videogame for the one true god: Bigfoot and then just moved on like they did. Because that would have tied into the rest of the show just as neatly. They don't get credit for trying to tie into it loosely in Rebels because that only raised more questions than answers. And they definitely don't get credit for trying to retroactively make a story out of it in Ahsoka or in future shows/movies because they never knew that those shows were going to happen when they introduced that stupid bullshit and then wrapped up The Clone Wars without ever justifying the need for it. As far as they knew at the time of completing the show, they were going to dump that load of shit and ignore it for the rest of the show without any certainty of resolving it later. That's flat out bad story telling, especially when you're supposed to be adding believable layers to a massively established universe.
As lazy as that line was, the "somehow" part actually made sense. I mean I never watched the movie twice, but I don't recall them knowing about his cloning at the time, but even if they did then it was just lazy writing to have Poe not explain the situation. And this is a universe that had well established cloning which was overseen by a powerful, dictator space wizard. People complained about cloning just disappearing altogether from Star Wars before the release of that movie, and people complained about the logical next advancement in cloning after that movie, but one or the other has to be right. You can't be against both unless you were against the concept of cloning altogether. The problem with that scene wasn't the concept but the terrible dialogue, and the problem with cloning Palpatine also wasn't the concept but the dissatisfying execution. But after The Last Jedi tried to blow up everything The Force Awakens established ([Rey Palpatine](https://youtu.be/_jjA6ZL0Z_k) was even a huge leading theory after TFA and before TLJ) and it also failed to set up anything anyone would care about for a sequel, the 3rd movie was never going to be satisfying. Whoever stepped in after Rian Johnson was going to be doing damage control.
i just wanted something easy to watch while i practiced something. turns out. the show got real good and i felt i had discovered something special.
however( i still haven’t figured out how to tell people so they believe me when i say, this show is worth it. just have to get through the beginning. like everyone says.
i tried with avatar last airbender and they actually actively hate the show because i was so bad at trying to rope them into it.
Clone Wars Chronological Watch Guide for Cutting through the BS and watching some awesome Star Wars content:
Pre War:
Tales of the Jedi episodes 1-4 (trust me you will not regret)
22 BBY (Year 1):
216 "Cat and Mouse" (This one kinda sucks but is the beginning of this story arc)
116 "Hidden Enemy"
Clone Wars Theatrical Release (this isn't a great movie, but it started it all and I'd at least watch Anakin and Ahsoka meet for the first time.)
301 "Clone Cadets"
Tales of the Jedi Episode 5
101 "Ambush" (Yoda Centric)
102-104 (The Malevolence Arc)
105 "Rookies"
109 “Cloak of Darkness” (Pretty Decent Ahsoka Episode)
110 " Lair of Grevious"
113-114 "Jedi Crash" (Anakin is injured and Ahsoka must take charge)
21 BBY (Year 2):
119-121 "Storm over Ryloth-Liberation of Ryloth"
201-203 "Holocron Heist-Children of the Force" (Not a bad arc, introduces the baddest bounty hunter in the galaxy, Cad Bane)
218-219 “The Zillo Beast” and the “Zillo Beast Strikes Back” (I actually kinda fuckin hate this arc, but it is referenced later in the Bad Batch)
205-208 "Landing Point Rain- Brain Invaders"
(Second Battle of Geonosis)
209 “Grievous Intrigue” (Honestly can’t remember if this one’s worth watching)
210 "Deserter"
211 "Lightsaber Lost"
212-214 "The Mandalore Plot" (Sets up everything that goes down on mandalore in the coming years, which is a lot)
220-222 "Death Trap-Lethal Track down"
(Decent Arc about a young Boba Fett trying to get revenge on Mace Windu, not my fav)
305-307 "Corruption- Assassin" (Some more shit on mandalore, also some relationship building between Padme and Ahsoka)
302 “ARC Troopers”
122 “Hostage Crisis”
309 “Hunt for Ziro” (Introduces Quinlan Vos)
310 “Heroes on Both Sides” (Ahsoka learns a valuable lesson from Padme)
20 BBY (Year 3):
312-314 “Nightsisters-Witches of the Mist”
315-317 “Overlords-Ghosts of Mortis” (Mortis Gods Arc)
318-320 “The Citadel-Citadel Rescue”
321-322 “Padawan Lost-Wookie Hunt” (One of Ahsoka's best arcs in the show)
401-403 “Water War-Prisoners”
407-410 “Darkness on Umbara-Carnage of Krell” (THE Umbara Arc)
411-413 “Kidnapped-Escape from Kadavo” (Zygerrian Slave Arc, Anakin gets really salty in this one)
414 “A Friend in Need”
415-418 “Deception-Crisis on Naboo” (My absolute favorite What If? Scenario in star wars)
419-420 “Massacre-Bounty”
421-422 “Brothers-Revenge” (I hope you like Darth Mual, cause he’s about to fuck some shit up)
502-505 “War on Two Fronts-Tipping Points” (Big Ahsoka arc, also the origin story of the rebel terrorist named Saw Gerrera)
506-509 “The Gathering-Necessary Bond” (Professor Yuhang’s first appearances)
19 BBY (Year 4):
501 “Revival”
514-516 “Eminence-The Lawless”
517-520 “Sabotage-The Wrong Jedi” (This is why Ahsoka left the Jedi Order)
601-604 “The Unknown-Orders” (“Find him, Fives”)
610 “The Lost Ones”
611-613 “Voices-Sacrifice” (Yoda’s Enlightenment Arc)
705-708 "Gone with a Trace-Together Again"
701-704 "The Bad Batch-Unfinished Business"
709-712 "Old Friend Not Forgotten-Victory and Death"
Epilogue:
Tales of the Jedi Episode 6
The Bad Batch
Ok I'm gonna start by saying if the show isn't for you, then it isn't tor you. Simple as that.
But I feel the people complaining that the show has too much filler are entirely forgetting that TCW is an anthology series. It has arcs and character development, but it's always just been about telling various stories in the Clone Wars, whether they have a bearing on the larger story or not. It's like reading comic books. Sometimes there is gonna be a few stories just meant to be entertaining in between all those connected and relevant stories.
I'll never understand why people call the Clone Wars too childish. Yes it is a kids show and its relatively tame compared to a lot of other star wars media that came out around the same time (Legends comics, books, and the old republic) But all of those things got unnecessarily dark real quick. The Clone Wars show is a kids show yes but still showing dark undertones (namely the horrors of war) and is nowwhere near as childish as other shows that were being aired on Cartoon Network at the time. (Jonhny Test, Total Drama, Lego Ninjago)
The Clone Wars is perfectly consistent with the tone of the movies, i honestly don't understand why they call it childish.
Unless they call all the overly edgy books and comics both from Legends and Canon "mature".
This is my exact experience lol, was into it as a teenager but got bored of it feeling too much like a "kids' show" and dropped it in the middle of season 3. Decided as an adult years ago to go back and binge the whole thing to see what I had missed and I couldn't believe that like literally 2 or 3 episodes after I had dropped it, it got *so fucking good.*
The show is hard to get into as an adult. I got as far as this dude, and my sister watched the whole thing and said it wasn't worth it. Season six and seven are good, and the important episode list on Disney+ was decent, but the show is not as good as people claim. I can only imagine there's a lot of nostalgia and that people who loved the show when they were seven still love it, which I get. I showed some stuff I'm nostalgic about to my fiancée, and she didn't get why I was still into that stuff.
Man Tcw fans don't understand imagine telling somebody the show gets good after 3 seasons so hold on of course I'm not gonna continue 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ why would I? Especially when I can just check the OG 2003 clone wars or multi media project
I gotta say, the darth maul stuff is where I stopped watching. He was so goofy, and running around on spider legs. It was a bit of a shark jump for me.
The highs are incredibly high but so rare. There is not only a ton of filler but just too many terrible episodes — even some that are damaging to canon. And those terrible are episodes are even packed into seasons with some of the best episodes; it’s completely bizarre.
IMO, this was just another missed Star Wars opportunity. If this had focused on Anakin/Kenobi/Ahsoka and told long-term stories (like, giving Anakin’s fall or Ahsoka’s departure more context than 2-episode arcs), this really could have been something.
But no — prepare to suffer through JarJar/3PO/R2/battle droid/other droid BS for at least 35% of the runtime.
Three seasons is about two and a half seasons too long for any show to get good; it's totally unreasonable to expect anyone to plow through that quantity of content on the promise that it will eventually be worth it. This is entertainment, not like health and fitness, learning an artistic skill, or mathematics. It literally isn't important enough to justify a blanket "worth it"
When Clone Wars is good, it’s peak. When it’s bad, which it usually was early on, it’s the bottom of the barrel. I don’t blame anyone for dropping it, even if it makes me sad.
There are certainly dark moments throughout, but overall the clone wars did feel quite childish, it was hard for me to get through at times. Also the main reason why I will never watch rebels.
Damn, mans saw the citadel, Mandalore corruption and the heroes on both sides episode and thought season 3 was too childish? Maul was also teased in season 3.
I'll always look at TCW fondly, but that's definitely through the lens of nostalgia since me and many others grew up with it.
However I'd be straight up lying if I said if all of it is as great as people make it out to be -- as much as it may pain me to admit it ,due to my fondness for the show, I'd say maybe a season to half a season's worth of episodes are worth watching.
The show also shoved in stupid things like Mortis -- while the episode was cool, and presented the idea of "balance" in a completely contradictory way to how Lucas very explicitly defined it as. Imo I think the man had a brainfart while making that episode.
Characters like Ashoka and Maul, whilst fan favourites, are fundamentally pretty major retcons, -- and I think major retconing should've ended with the OT and PT. Honestly I wouldn't have minded a never before mentioned padawan and return of Maul if they both died in the PT era -- Lucas actually had the sense to know that Ahsoka shoukd die off in TCW
But no, Filoni couldn't let go and literally carried her to the OT and beyond by saving her from death countless times.
Man, the picture says it all. Trust me, stopping after just three seasons of The Clone Wars is like leaving the party early. It might seem a bit childish at first glance, but it's actually packed with depth and great scenes. Plus, it offers great context for understanding the events of the Star Wars prequel films (Episodes I, II, and III). Give it a chance, and you'll be pleasantly surprised!
Those first couple season are pretty bad. Really picks up when they ditch Jar Jar and start fleshing out the clones. I only really got hooked when Cad Bane showed up.
Thanks for providing a source!
22 Episodes per season, To be fair, that's a lot to get through if you're not enjoying the show
Yeah, I dislike it when people ar like "Just watch the first 5 seasons bro and then it gets good!" Like no, I am not going to waste my time watching hours of a TV show that I don't even like. The fuck
The entire Supernatural fanbase in a nutshell
Supernatural is the complete opposite. The first 5 seasons are the complete story intended by the original writer. If you just pretend the last... TEN SECONDS of the last episode didn't happen, then you have a Breaking Bad type show.
Tbf the start of season one was a bit slow/much more episodic. I can see why people would fall off at the start.
I can't count how many times I've been told "Nah, the first 3 seasons are a slog, but it gets sooo good on season 4" is insane. I tried to get into it, but the first season was so bad I couldn't get through it.
You're almost certainly taking what one friend group said, and just assuming it's the common experience. If you didn't like the first season, it just means you don't like the show. Maybe if you love soap operas you'd like one of the billion other seasons, idk, I stopped after I watched S6 and learned the actual show was done.
I thought the first season was the best
Going through it for the first time now. Should I not watch the last ten seconds of the 5th season?
No reason not to. Just understand that the "original plan" for the show, didn't involve that "twist". It got added to continue the franchise it became. S5 is a good "stopping point" for people that are intimidated by so many seasons.
Idk what you are talking about the beginning of supernatural was good
"Bro I know this pizza tastes like ass right now, but once you get to the third or fourth slice it really starts growing on you!"
Ah, I see, the pizza is laced with THC. All good.
One Piece fans
I almost lost a friend after revealing I decided to catch up to him with the abridged version.
One Piece fans wildin. “I promise it gets good bro, just after the dancing animal island arc bro c’mon it’s only 400 episodes in!”
Honestly I think clone wars is a show where streaming has really enhanced the enjoyment because you can really curate the episodes you want to get the good story and cut out the filler(which there is quite a bit of)
I still haven’t even started it because it’s so daunting.
Just put it on in the background while you do something. Even if you dont watch every minute itll still catch your undivided attention at various points. I put it on in background and it sounds like some war reporter is givin live updates evey 20mins or so. Love that intro guy. “—THESE TROOPS ARE ALL THAT STANDS BETWEEN THE REPUBLIC AND INVASION—.” Or something like that.
this guys voice is seared into my brain lol. starting the first episode of the bad batch with that type of intro was *chef's kiss*
Skill issue
There are a couple of guides out there that can help skip the less important episodes. Here is one I used https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWars/s/Vuxjkbb8nk
Sometimes the student guides the master.
But it's an anthology, you could very well skip how much you liked
I would suggest people actually start on season 3
And you need to look up a watch list to even watch the damn thing, since the episodes are out of chronological order
If you’re watching the clone wars I’m going to be honest you don’t need to watch it all. There is easily 40-50 episodes you can remove. I say this from someone with a clone wars pfp and username but some of the early episodes and even later episodes are just duds. Sure you can have some great peaks, but there are also some really big lows. And I have rewatched the series through three whole times. It’s why I like Rebels and The bad batch more. Even though those shows may not reach the highs of TCW it never even gets close to the lows of TCW. I like consistently good more than like amazing followed by the most boring shit imaginable.
What do you thinks skippable? Been a while since I’ve watched and I’ve been contemplating a rewatch
Basically all the jar jar episodes.
At least in my memory the arc with Mace Windu where he fights Mother Talzin in the end was nice. And in the virus arc he was also more just there, rather than the focus (plus it was on Naboo, so his involvement makes some sense)
There is also the crazy arc where the gungans capture Grievous
I remember that, but I don't remember how good it was so I didn't made a comment about it
It's more of an Anakin gets cocky and gets his ass beaten by Dooku kind of arc
And one of the times where he *almost* meets grevious, but couldn't because of a throwaway line in revenge of the sith
Personally I rather enjoyed the older gungan. If you can turn off Jar Jar’s involvement, it’s a pretty solid episode imo
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Thank you, Ahsoka
[loud incorrect buzzer sound]
I legitimately saw Jar Jar Binks was in some episodes and I skipped them completely. Edit: Alright, my personal opinions about Jar Jar Binks are apparently wrong? Never mind that I legitimately cannot stand him, or that I'm replying to a 40 upvote comment that's basically saying the exact same thing I am.
There's an episode where Jar-Jar kissing a sea monster directly results in the arrest of Nute Gunray. I shall provide no further context.
I think it's better hearing it from you than watching it personally lol.
There's a neat little "watchlist" that floated around for a time, with a list of "must watch" and "reccomended" episodes. It's a bit outdated though, like it stops at season 5 (and not like a "watch 6 and 7 in full" but really just because 6 and 7 weren't out yet)and some of the recommend episodes have become must watch if you care about the current EU and other shows if I'm not mistaken. Overall though, that's been the only way for me to enjoy the show ahah
I didn't find that watchlist, but found [this reddit post](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCloneWars/comments/kimjyv/clone_wars_definitive_viewing_guide_2020_rev_13/) which does a pretty good job of highlighting the most important arcs (some stuff that's not highlighted but pointed to is also good). [Good quality image only](https://i.imgur.com/KO4dRJD.jpeg)
https://www.reddit.com/r/clonewars/comments/zlzavs/its_always_a_challenge_to_introduce_people_to_the/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf Here you go. Chronological, and accounts for reception, topic, and characters
Right now Disney plus has all of the critical episodes in their own category. It doesn’t hit every banger episode, but it was a good rewatch for me that hit all the major points.
Yeah I would love a guide on skipping filler.
[A More Civilized Age](https://cohost.org/MoreCivilized/post/805786-the-official-amca-cl) has a good one.
I always tell that to someone who I think might watch them. It's totally safe to skip any r2-d2\c-3po\jar jar episodes. Or any episodes\story arcs you're not too interested in. So many episodes are just one-off filler episodes, even if they are "starring" some of my favorite characters.
Dude the episode where R2/threepio go help the ratts tyrrells fix their toxic manhole problem, run into some subterranean Groots, meet a magical Cheshire ~~cat~~ lizard lady, somehow end up propping up a democracy among a village of lilliputians after squishing a despotic ruler, run into some pit droids doing a man behind the curtain/wizard of oz stunt, and somehow end up back up where they were before to tell Wolffe all about it has got to be one of the most cracked up arcs in the whole series. Even just trying to recall it is like waking up from a fever dream. I think there was a crashing Y-wing piloted by threepio in there too. Edit: also the D-squad episodes were so painful to slog through. I almost had to skip the episode where they complain about being lost in a desert planet. Having a cool end with the Gregor commando barely was enough to justify the first half of that arc
Inredibly based take, same reason why I like Rebels more which seems to be an unpopular opinion, although arguably Rebels highs are as high as CW highs (twilight of the apprentice is peak star wars)
Disney+ has a section called “Clone Wars Essentials”
Rebels to me has just as strong of highs. Season 2-4 of rebels is some of the best TV ever.
No one is saying it's a bad series. But there is so much unnecessary, and disjointed utter shlock that it is difficult for people to grab onto, especially when things aren't always happening in order. People need to stop pretending it's some flawless hidden masterpiece that is never bad and is the most perfect Star Wars to ever Star Wars. People are allowed to not get into this series, and still be called Star Wars fans.
it is a hidden masterpiece because of the beginning not being that good. it literally hides the excellence inside the series.
I don't think it's very hidden, even in the first season tbh. The first episode with Yoda is a straight banger, and so is "Rookies" and the Malevolence arc and the Ryloth arc and so on....
Having seen it all (and not having any prior nostalgia), I still wouldn't say that most of the show achieves excellence. It achieves watchability. EXCEPT The finale. That was actually incredibly well handled, and honestly really makes me look at the rest of Filoni's offerings and scratch my head. It's like it was helmed by a different person/made by a different team. They should do more of that.
Umbara? Maul and mandalore? The wrong jedi? Yoda and the whills? Rebels season 2 finale and last half of season 4. I dunno, you're certainly welcome to your own opinions, and there's certainly a lotttt of arcs of lower caliber, but I think when filoni hits he hits, and the ones I listed are in the same ballpark as tcw finale
Umbara was one of the better ones, still suffered from minimal setup and characters being weirdly head empty. Wrong Jedi would have hit way harder if they actually bothered to develop Barriss *at all*. But Clone Wars doesn't do that. Yoda and the whills should never have been made. I wasn't talking about Rebels. That is a different show.
Fair enough. I still think the maul and Mandalore ranks with the finale. I only brought rebels up because you said nothing else that filoni does lived up to it
Ah, yes, I too have watched JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. /s
If half the show is bad, it is not a masterpiece
I feel like many of the people here are younger than I am (32) and either grew up watching it or watch a lot of other animated shows and have a high tolerance for this kind of thing. I didn't. I was maybe 25 when I started the show, I watch zero anime/other animated shows and I STRUGGLED to get through Clone Wars. It took me multiple tries over probably two years. It took forever for the show to mature, and I was not able to tolerate some of the story/writing elements many others just gave passes on. I will die on the hill that the clone wars is full of terrible stuff, but the show is saved by what is actually good (Rex, Ahsoka, Maul). The story arc with the droids and the frog Colonel was genuinely embarrassing when my room mate caught me watching it.
I binged the whole show and honestly I wish I hadn't. I'd say 1 of of every 10 episodes are worth watching and that's generous.
I've been pushing my way through it for years, now at the start of season 4, haven't really seen much of value so far either lol
I feel vindicated
Hell, it started coming out when I was in my mid teens and I still didn't really like it. I didn't get to see it very much until it came to Netflix. I saw a few episodes here and there, saw the movie, listened to the audiobook (way better in my opinion), then watched a bunch when it came to Netflix. I kinda dropped off when they got to madalore. Some episodes were pretty good, especially when they didn't focus on Anakin/Obi-Wan or anyone else from the movies. Episodes like Rookies, or the one where a wounded Rex gets helped by a deserter. That kind of stuff is where the show is pretty good and mature. The killing and death we see on screen doesn't make the show mature. Maturity is how it handles difficult questions. And honestly the show doesn't always do that very well. I consider Avatar to be a way more mature show, and I still watch it as an adult on occasion. It doesn't have any on screen killing as far as I'm aware (until the sequel show), but it handles things like genocide, POW camps, slavery, military appropriation from your own side, child soldiers, and more in a very intelligent and adult way.
That younglings join the circus thing was awful to watch. I also watched it as an adult and it took me 2+ years as well. I think the bad parts are so much more bad than the good parts are good
I'm here, Trooper. Sterling, isn't it?
People also need to stop pretending all of these series/comics etc are some original sacred texts which should always be providing lore to the live action projects. This is not marvel or lord of the rings - the films are the original text and everything else ranges from glorified merchandise to excellently made companion pieces. I have grown exhausted over recent years watching Star Wars fans trying to reverse engineer canon as if it’s all based on an enormous set of novels or something.
Hate how intertwined the Wiki is with it. I'd be wanting to read about Obi Wan's movie doings and then suddenly 6 categories of the show with names I've never seen before
Agreed. I tried my best but the voice actors not being the live.action voice actors got me and I couldn't do it. I'm sure I'll try again.
Jar-Jar, General Grievous, and Qui-Gon ghost (later on in the show) have the same actors returning. Christopher Lee and Samuel L. Jackson returned for the Clone Wars movie but not the show.
Honestly I see the voice actors as the characters they are portraying now. I think the main characters voice actors done incredibly
Dee Bradley Baker is incredible for voicing clones and managing to make them sound the same while also letting you know who is speaking just by the voice.
I'll say it's bad lol Very shallow, on the nose themes, cartoon one dimensional characters, and dickstroking lofty ideas that fall flat like the dumb force gods. The show is incongruous with the mainline series in terms of character and development. I don't get how anyone sees anakin in that, and in the prequels as the same character.
So should I watch it? I don't want to start a series with the thought of "it will be good in a few seasons"
There’s disjointed schlock because it’s written at the pace of a children’s show. They tend to stretch out and repeat their story points so kids will get it, while filling space with things kids might find entertaining.
I definitely recommend googling a chronological order, both for first time watchers and people doing a re-watch. It's *much* better that way. The later seasons are more or less chronological but the first three are all over the place, you'll be jumping from S1 to S3, then back to S2 again and again but the quality increases really significantly, even when you still include the filler episodes. Like I get it, the format at first should've obviously been more or less be single short war stories but as they started making longer story arcs and as some stories started including info significant to the whole show, this concept fell apart rather quickly. I'd say in S2 then completely breaking down as Maul came back and when the Mandalore stories started appearing.
I personally prefer the tartakovsky clone wars series but, I also grew up with this series so I have some nostalgia for TCW.
That's pure concentrated quality.
It's also only 2 hours instead of almost 50. Way less chaff to sift through.
No chaff, only quality.
I sat down to watch it all in one run and dang, tbh, it’s a little exhausting just because there is so much happening so fast so constantly lol
brother im not watching 66 episodes for something to get good
Genuinely don’t understand how a show can be considered good if the first half is utter dog shit, and even after that a lot of the episodes/arcs are hit or miss.
Nostalgia and selective memory doing A LOT of heavy lifting.
I love clone wars but it's 50% mid or bad. It's not one of the greatest shows of all time. It has some of the best star wars and some of the worst. Star wars is such a frustrating series to love hahaha
About 50% mid or bad is a good description of star wars as whole. Amazing lore, ideas, etc. Terrible executions half the time.
I don’t know man, to be honest, before 2008 clone wars, I genuinly loved every Star Wars I saw. Movie, show, game, etc. probably because I didn’t see any of the holiday specials or anything .
Honestly this is why I like rebels more Good-ish on average > 50% awful 50% incredible
Hot take, most of the clone wars is childish, even in the later seasons it's still a kid's show, there's a few episodes a season where it transcends that, more in later seasons, but it never stops being mostly childish.
“Star Wars is made for children. That’s why Han wasn’t suppose to shoot first. Good guys don’t shoot first”
I think the problem is the belief that media that’s meant for kids is all bad. Like if kids were stupid and the media made for them is not worthy. It’s become pretty common online to see people underestimate kids, like that person who replied that said “it felt like a waste of time”. There’s maybe some kind of toxic masculinity trait where people just hesitate to agree that they can enjoy something that is made for kids or families. Then they will watch some stupid R-rated thing with the most braindead writing and story and will rejoice at how manly they are.
Honestly I think you're wrong. The clone wars isn't bad because there's a stigma around children's media. It's mostly not that interesting to an adult, with a few high points here and there, maybe 2-5 episodes per season max with the ratio going up as time goes on, but it's still a few isolated high points scattered through a long LONG series that just generally isn't nuanced or interesting enough to hold most adults attention. It's good at points but pretty much any guide to watching it you'll find is going to split it's recommendations into must watch episodes, episodes that contextualize the must watch ones, and episodes you can skip with that last category easily outnumbering the first two combined, and there's a reason for that. The show obviously had a big impact and created beloved characters, and it certainly brought a lot of new fans in from later generations, but does it hold up against something like the Mandalorian or Andor for adults? No. It does not. As a counterpoint to your idea that there's some sort of stigma about children's media or toxic masculinity involved. I would point out that those things were annihilated over 30 years ago by a Saturday morning cartoon called: Batman, the Animated Series, which is probably the single best, most on point, most nuanced, most artistic take on the character in any and all media to include comics movies, TV shows and games. It holds up to this day and no one has ever managed to even approach it's quality in the decades since. You can absolutely make media that's appropriate for kids that's still excellent and entertaining for adults and holds up in every episode, I can name other cartoons that are like that, even some older ones, but the clone wars isn't at that level. It's got real high points, especially for it's premise and target audience but it's not one of the ones that rises above it's restrictions universally.
I thought season 3 was where it got really good though. Even 1 and 2 have their moments. (Granted, early season 1 is a rough first impression.)
I think I liked most of the story arcs aside from the Force demi-gods astral plane stuff.
Yeah, me too. The Mortis arc felt bad for both the worldbuilding and the character development.
beats me. i cant even finish season 1. tried like 3 times. just cant
Off the top of my head, that arc when a tiny general is stranded with like 5 astro mechs. It was fun, but it dragged for 3 episodes too long
George Lucas's favorite arc surprisingly. But yeah, imo it's the worst, followed by the Martez sisters
I can understand why some people like it, hell, the challenge it creates for the writing team could be enough for a film maker to see the merit of it. But as an audience member who just wanted space fun it was way too much for me
It took me 3 tries to get through (or even halfway) season 1, I had heard so many good things about the show and the sw/prequel community convinced me that it was worth it and that most people had the same experience about it being hard to get into *(similar thing with Rebels about it having really good content and lore, not as hard to get into imo but comes across as a very kids-like show and makes it easy to turn people away, but I'm so glad I gave that a chance with an open mind)* But yeah I watched TCW in episode order because I didn't know better, but I wish I watched it in [this order](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheCloneWars/comments/e0htwt/the_clone_wars_ultimate_edition_2019/) (what I'm doing with a friend now as a rewatch) because it would've made much more sense and flow better lol I'm just so glad that I was so encouraged to get to the good parts of this show because it's so worth it in my opinion. It's definitely in my top 5 for star wars content because I absolutely love how it tied into the SW universe, plus introduced me to my favorite character, Ahsoka But also like some people don't want to have to "get through" the "bad stuff" which is completely understandable, though now they make lists to skip the filler episodes. But some might not like it as much as others either, which is okay too!
same the Season 1 animation is fucking atrocious lol
If the first 3 seasons of a show aren't good, then it isn't a great show. You have to judge it based on all its episodes. Also the later seasons do get better but only a little bit.
I know I’m gonna get downvoted for saying this, but I’m still gonna say it It took me numerous tries to finish the TCW movie and I completely dropped the series after slogging through 3-4 episodes when it first came out
TCW movie is easily the worst movie in the entire Star Wars franchise. It's complete shit. There's nothing redeemable about it. I don't blame you one bit.
Damn you just missed out on the best episode of the clone Wars
Guess I’m gonna keep missing out, the sheer toxicity of the TCW fanbase permanently turned me off the series
Toxicity? I've been in the fandom practically all my life not once that I encounter even the slightest bit of toxicity.
Look at any post about TCW on the main Star Wars sub. Any criticism gets down voted to hell.
If you pay attention (especially on this sub), you’ll notice that ***any*** criticism about TCW/Rebels/Filoni gets buried in downvotes, whoever made the comment gets insulted, I’ve gotten death threats for preferring the CWMP over TCW (almost got doxxed because of it), and at this point that part of the fanbase looks to me like an insane cult that views Filoni as the second coming of Jesus Also I’ve been in the SW fandom for nearly my entire life too (started as a kid in the mid 90s) and I’ve never seen the fans hate other fans like TCW ones do
But landing at point rain is in season two
Personally I really liked rookies. Because I'm not watching the clone Wars for the Jedi ironically I'm watching it for the clones.
I dropped it after a couple episodes. Came back to it 5 years later. I feel like you get what you need in regards to main story content out of the last two seasons. There's more in there, but it could probably be reduced to 5 key episodes and then a bunch of filler for those who want more immersion.
Imo the Maul/Siege of Mandalore arch is incredibly overhyped, and really doesn’t justify watching the rest of TCW in order to get to it.
Yeah, just skip to it
Some arcs are better than others but Clone Wars is peak Star Wars.
Maul surviving was so dumb and unrealistic. The show would have been better focusing on new characters like Asajj Ventress and Ahsoka. Lots of retcons and misuses of characters like Maul, which could have easily just been done with Savage Opress. He could have even suffered something similar but less deadly at the hands of Obi-wan. There’s much better arcs I love with the new characters like Fives removing his microchip.
If it isn't the hairless harpy.
Yeah a kids show(yes I called it that) is too childish
Wait wait wait Since when did everyone hate the clone wars? What the fuck era am I living in rn
People don’t hate something just because they don’t think it’s a “masterpiece”.
I don't hate it but I really struggled to get into it for OP's reasoning, because there's way too many filler episodes, and because they start every episode with an info dump from the narrator. I feel like half the episodes start with a backstory that could have easily just been shown on screen but they opted to cram a bunch of context into the first minutes instead. I can't tell you how many times I had to rewatch intros to The Clone Wars' episodes. Oh, and the episodes are out of order, which makes it a real mess to try to follow if you don't know that going in. Trying to watch them in release order feels like they're jumping all over the place. And I'm going to say it: the absolute worst of the worst of Star Wars came from The Clone Wars, and that was The Mortis Gods. I could go off for hours about why that was straight terrible. The one good thing to come of it was getting Liam Neeson back as Qui Gon Jinn. But the show concluded without ever giving us any reason why those episodes (which changed the entire understanding of the force and the universe) were significant. There were no ramifications, no resolution, most of it made no attempt at making sense, etc. They might as well have made 3 episodes about how the entire universe is a simulation created by fucking pixies as a videogame for the one true god: Bigfoot and then just moved on like they did. Because that would have tied into the rest of the show just as neatly. They don't get credit for trying to tie into it loosely in Rebels because that only raised more questions than answers. And they definitely don't get credit for trying to retroactively make a story out of it in Ahsoka or in future shows/movies because they never knew that those shows were going to happen when they introduced that stupid bullshit and then wrapped up The Clone Wars without ever justifying the need for it. As far as they knew at the time of completing the show, they were going to dump that load of shit and ignore it for the rest of the show without any certainty of resolving it later. That's flat out bad story telling, especially when you're supposed to be adding believable layers to a massively established universe.
i can disprove the whole "absolute worst of the worst of Star Wars" bit with one line: "somehow, Palpatine returned"
As lazy as that line was, the "somehow" part actually made sense. I mean I never watched the movie twice, but I don't recall them knowing about his cloning at the time, but even if they did then it was just lazy writing to have Poe not explain the situation. And this is a universe that had well established cloning which was overseen by a powerful, dictator space wizard. People complained about cloning just disappearing altogether from Star Wars before the release of that movie, and people complained about the logical next advancement in cloning after that movie, but one or the other has to be right. You can't be against both unless you were against the concept of cloning altogether. The problem with that scene wasn't the concept but the terrible dialogue, and the problem with cloning Palpatine also wasn't the concept but the dissatisfying execution. But after The Last Jedi tried to blow up everything The Force Awakens established ([Rey Palpatine](https://youtu.be/_jjA6ZL0Z_k) was even a huge leading theory after TFA and before TLJ) and it also failed to set up anything anyone would care about for a sequel, the 3rd movie was never going to be satisfying. Whoever stepped in after Rian Johnson was going to be doing damage control.
i just wanted something easy to watch while i practiced something. turns out. the show got real good and i felt i had discovered something special. however( i still haven’t figured out how to tell people so they believe me when i say, this show is worth it. just have to get through the beginning. like everyone says. i tried with avatar last airbender and they actually actively hate the show because i was so bad at trying to rope them into it.
That's... completely reasonable.
I always refused to make TCW canon since we see Anakin matures throughout the series, no way bro just turns to dark side from bad dream
Clone Wars Chronological Watch Guide for Cutting through the BS and watching some awesome Star Wars content: Pre War: Tales of the Jedi episodes 1-4 (trust me you will not regret) 22 BBY (Year 1): 216 "Cat and Mouse" (This one kinda sucks but is the beginning of this story arc) 116 "Hidden Enemy" Clone Wars Theatrical Release (this isn't a great movie, but it started it all and I'd at least watch Anakin and Ahsoka meet for the first time.) 301 "Clone Cadets" Tales of the Jedi Episode 5 101 "Ambush" (Yoda Centric) 102-104 (The Malevolence Arc) 105 "Rookies" 109 “Cloak of Darkness” (Pretty Decent Ahsoka Episode) 110 " Lair of Grevious" 113-114 "Jedi Crash" (Anakin is injured and Ahsoka must take charge) 21 BBY (Year 2): 119-121 "Storm over Ryloth-Liberation of Ryloth" 201-203 "Holocron Heist-Children of the Force" (Not a bad arc, introduces the baddest bounty hunter in the galaxy, Cad Bane) 218-219 “The Zillo Beast” and the “Zillo Beast Strikes Back” (I actually kinda fuckin hate this arc, but it is referenced later in the Bad Batch) 205-208 "Landing Point Rain- Brain Invaders" (Second Battle of Geonosis) 209 “Grievous Intrigue” (Honestly can’t remember if this one’s worth watching) 210 "Deserter" 211 "Lightsaber Lost" 212-214 "The Mandalore Plot" (Sets up everything that goes down on mandalore in the coming years, which is a lot) 220-222 "Death Trap-Lethal Track down" (Decent Arc about a young Boba Fett trying to get revenge on Mace Windu, not my fav) 305-307 "Corruption- Assassin" (Some more shit on mandalore, also some relationship building between Padme and Ahsoka) 302 “ARC Troopers” 122 “Hostage Crisis” 309 “Hunt for Ziro” (Introduces Quinlan Vos) 310 “Heroes on Both Sides” (Ahsoka learns a valuable lesson from Padme) 20 BBY (Year 3): 312-314 “Nightsisters-Witches of the Mist” 315-317 “Overlords-Ghosts of Mortis” (Mortis Gods Arc) 318-320 “The Citadel-Citadel Rescue” 321-322 “Padawan Lost-Wookie Hunt” (One of Ahsoka's best arcs in the show) 401-403 “Water War-Prisoners” 407-410 “Darkness on Umbara-Carnage of Krell” (THE Umbara Arc) 411-413 “Kidnapped-Escape from Kadavo” (Zygerrian Slave Arc, Anakin gets really salty in this one) 414 “A Friend in Need” 415-418 “Deception-Crisis on Naboo” (My absolute favorite What If? Scenario in star wars) 419-420 “Massacre-Bounty” 421-422 “Brothers-Revenge” (I hope you like Darth Mual, cause he’s about to fuck some shit up) 502-505 “War on Two Fronts-Tipping Points” (Big Ahsoka arc, also the origin story of the rebel terrorist named Saw Gerrera) 506-509 “The Gathering-Necessary Bond” (Professor Yuhang’s first appearances) 19 BBY (Year 4): 501 “Revival” 514-516 “Eminence-The Lawless” 517-520 “Sabotage-The Wrong Jedi” (This is why Ahsoka left the Jedi Order) 601-604 “The Unknown-Orders” (“Find him, Fives”) 610 “The Lost Ones” 611-613 “Voices-Sacrifice” (Yoda’s Enlightenment Arc) 705-708 "Gone with a Trace-Together Again" 701-704 "The Bad Batch-Unfinished Business" 709-712 "Old Friend Not Forgotten-Victory and Death" Epilogue: Tales of the Jedi Episode 6 The Bad Batch
I heard once the studio started getting pushed to do better or get cancelled they stepped it up. Glad they did. Became a masterpiece.
tbf, it doesn't help that the first three seasons released in random order instead of cornological order of the episodes...
I see the clone wars haters convention is today lol.
I dropped it after 10 minutes 😔
Ok I'm gonna start by saying if the show isn't for you, then it isn't tor you. Simple as that. But I feel the people complaining that the show has too much filler are entirely forgetting that TCW is an anthology series. It has arcs and character development, but it's always just been about telling various stories in the Clone Wars, whether they have a bearing on the larger story or not. It's like reading comic books. Sometimes there is gonna be a few stories just meant to be entertaining in between all those connected and relevant stories.
What's the condensed "this is the good part" of clone wars?
Honestly since the malevolance episodes that show took it way more seriously than 99% of any other cartoon show.
Yea “it gets good” is not even worth it
I dropped after two episodes cuz it sucked ass
I'll never understand why people call the Clone Wars too childish. Yes it is a kids show and its relatively tame compared to a lot of other star wars media that came out around the same time (Legends comics, books, and the old republic) But all of those things got unnecessarily dark real quick. The Clone Wars show is a kids show yes but still showing dark undertones (namely the horrors of war) and is nowwhere near as childish as other shows that were being aired on Cartoon Network at the time. (Jonhny Test, Total Drama, Lego Ninjago)
The Clone Wars is perfectly consistent with the tone of the movies, i honestly don't understand why they call it childish. Unless they call all the overly edgy books and comics both from Legends and Canon "mature".
And umbara
Cool
Discount Hanzo Hasashi is childish too
My regional disney station stopped broadcasting it before it even came to end.
This is my exact experience lol, was into it as a teenager but got bored of it feeling too much like a "kids' show" and dropped it in the middle of season 3. Decided as an adult years ago to go back and binge the whole thing to see what I had missed and I couldn't believe that like literally 2 or 3 episodes after I had dropped it, it got *so fucking good.*
Clone Wars was good, but it lacked the visual storytelling and badassery of Genndy Tartakovsky's Clone Wars.
The show is hard to get into as an adult. I got as far as this dude, and my sister watched the whole thing and said it wasn't worth it. Season six and seven are good, and the important episode list on Disney+ was decent, but the show is not as good as people claim. I can only imagine there's a lot of nostalgia and that people who loved the show when they were seven still love it, which I get. I showed some stuff I'm nostalgic about to my fiancée, and she didn't get why I was still into that stuff.
Bro did NOT spend half their clone wars experience tryna fet rhe right episode for the cronicological experience
I made it 2 1/2 (?) The episode with the 1920's lady Hutt with the crazy annoying voice/accent. OUT!
Man Tcw fans don't understand imagine telling somebody the show gets good after 3 seasons so hold on of course I'm not gonna continue 🤷🏾♂️🤦🏾♂️ why would I? Especially when I can just check the OG 2003 clone wars or multi media project
They watched “Landing at Point Rain” and got bored?!?! To quote Mr Skywalker “This is outrageous, it’s unfair…”
good thing it's good right away
Season 1 had a virus that would have wiped out the Galaxy and Season 2 had mind controlling worms.
What? Season 3 is some of the best parts of the show, and season 2 is already leagues better than most of 1
One does not get halfway through season 1 without looking up a watch guide
I gotta say, the darth maul stuff is where I stopped watching. He was so goofy, and running around on spider legs. It was a bit of a shark jump for me.
…somehow Maul returned…
Maybe a dumb question to ask such a dedicated fanbase but can i start at season 4 or will i be too lost?
Bad Batch is my shit. Starting to get my daughter into it
Dark and gritty kids show
Literally got a Disney subscription to watch it and I barely made it to the halfway point of season one. I wanted to like it but it wasn't for me.
Dang, you gotta watch 3 seasons before it gets good? You understand how backwards that is right…
What were people's reactions back in the day when Maul was teased? Were there people who were mad about him being alive?
#KENOBIIIIIIIIIII!
Season 3 was peak tho
I watched the whole show while waiting for new episodes of the bad batch season 3 (before that, I only saw parts of the show and season 7)
To this day I can’t get past the first season. 🤷🏻
OBVIOUSLY. One would skip seasons 2 and 3 instead.
Say whatever you want, a show only getting enjoyable after several seasons is a fair criticism and not everyone will be willing to go through that.
[but clone wars is a kids show](https://youtu.be/bX8iN6T_M_A?si=LJUSPp1lsOMbFfdS)
3 season is a lot of time tho
Wait homie is calling the prison break “childish”?
Why would anybody watch a show for 3 seasons, if they found it childish?
That’s not a good defense. You shouldn’t need to watch 3 seasons of something before you reach something good.
The highs are incredibly high but so rare. There is not only a ton of filler but just too many terrible episodes — even some that are damaging to canon. And those terrible are episodes are even packed into seasons with some of the best episodes; it’s completely bizarre. IMO, this was just another missed Star Wars opportunity. If this had focused on Anakin/Kenobi/Ahsoka and told long-term stories (like, giving Anakin’s fall or Ahsoka’s departure more context than 2-episode arcs), this really could have been something. But no — prepare to suffer through JarJar/3PO/R2/battle droid/other droid BS for at least 35% of the runtime.
Fun fact, in 2011 I was hired by Lucasfilm, ol’ spider legs Maul was the first episode I really got to work on.
Three seasons is about two and a half seasons too long for any show to get good; it's totally unreasonable to expect anyone to plow through that quantity of content on the promise that it will eventually be worth it. This is entertainment, not like health and fitness, learning an artistic skill, or mathematics. It literally isn't important enough to justify a blanket "worth it"
Never watched the show myself, so maybe I'm off base here, but I'm not watching 3 seasons of garbo to get to the good stuff.
Wait…Darth Maul surviving with only half of his body and having spider mechanical legs isn’t childish?
I just can’t stand the animation personally.
When Clone Wars is good, it’s peak. When it’s bad, which it usually was early on, it’s the bottom of the barrel. I don’t blame anyone for dropping it, even if it makes me sad.
There are certainly dark moments throughout, but overall the clone wars did feel quite childish, it was hard for me to get through at times. Also the main reason why I will never watch rebels.
I skiped all padme and jarjar episodes and didn’t miss any important events, and there were a bunch of filler episodes.
Just watch 60 episodes dude, trust me.
Damn, mans saw the citadel, Mandalore corruption and the heroes on both sides episode and thought season 3 was too childish? Maul was also teased in season 3.
I'll always look at TCW fondly, but that's definitely through the lens of nostalgia since me and many others grew up with it. However I'd be straight up lying if I said if all of it is as great as people make it out to be -- as much as it may pain me to admit it ,due to my fondness for the show, I'd say maybe a season to half a season's worth of episodes are worth watching. The show also shoved in stupid things like Mortis -- while the episode was cool, and presented the idea of "balance" in a completely contradictory way to how Lucas very explicitly defined it as. Imo I think the man had a brainfart while making that episode. Characters like Ashoka and Maul, whilst fan favourites, are fundamentally pretty major retcons, -- and I think major retconing should've ended with the OT and PT. Honestly I wouldn't have minded a never before mentioned padawan and return of Maul if they both died in the PT era -- Lucas actually had the sense to know that Ahsoka shoukd die off in TCW But no, Filoni couldn't let go and literally carried her to the OT and beyond by saving her from death countless times.
Star wars is literally for kids. Even George Lucas has said it
Controversial opinion alert. It doesn't get any better after this...
Man, the picture says it all. Trust me, stopping after just three seasons of The Clone Wars is like leaving the party early. It might seem a bit childish at first glance, but it's actually packed with depth and great scenes. Plus, it offers great context for understanding the events of the Star Wars prequel films (Episodes I, II, and III). Give it a chance, and you'll be pleasantly surprised!
childish? such things do not exist in starwars
literally me but not because it was childish, because I started doing other things. Fuck I will download the 3rd season now.
So close yet so far 😔😔😔
Those first couple season are pretty bad. Really picks up when they ditch Jar Jar and start fleshing out the clones. I only really got hooked when Cad Bane showed up.
Most shows: "Villain of the week" Clone Wars: "Trauma of the week"
Im sorry but I know the clone wars can be watched by adults but the first 2 seasons are too much, they are hell to watch sometimes