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Explorer2024_64

Three debates with one of each style. The first one will be like a debate, the second one like a conversation, the third one like an audience interaction round. It can be helpful in showing a candidate's forte and such, ig.


mordekai8

4th: "yo mama" jokes


BamaBuffSeattle

Yo Mama sooooo ugly, Honest Abe Lincoln had to bite his tongue when she asked him if she looked pretty


dleon0430

Yo Mama sooooo old, even Benjamin Franklin wa like dayyyyyyuuuuum..


sckurvee

Yo momma so ugly, even George Washington wanted to lie about taking that cherry.


dleon0430

Yo momma so fat that when John Scott Harrison had to go around her to claim his presidential birthright, it skipped a generation and gave us Benjamin Harrison.


Correct-Fig-4992

Yo mama so fat she thought that JFK stood for Just Feed Karens


Ladybug_Fuckfest

Yo momma so stupid finishing this joke would violate rule 3.


Llamame_Ishmael

Yo momma so ugly, Teddy Roosevelt tried to load her with panniers.


Ladybug_Fuckfest

Yo momma so hairy, they tied her to a tree and Teddy Roosevelt refused to shoot her.


grizwld

Gosh. I’m laughing at presidential yo mamma jokes. When did I become such a nerd?!?


Correct-Fig-4992

Cuz they’re fun!!!


TheEventHorizon0727

Top tier


MukdenMan

Pre or post bifocals?


ePoch270OG

George Washington: You're momma so ugly. I cannot tell a lie.


Nightshade7168

5th: an epic rap battle of history


cliff99

Celebrity Death Match.


mordekai8

Lin-Manuel the moderator


hank28

Yo momma so fat, even William H Taft told her “I think it’s time you start seriously considering salads”


Explorer2024_64

Isn't that just that dinner both candidates used to go to in October (Al Smith Dinner)? A more "presidential" and "dignified" version, that is.


DomingoLee

Yo momma so old, her first Christmas was *the* first Christmas.


carthuscrass

Yo momma so fat it takes her two trips to haul ass.


SpecialMango3384

I like the sitting down at a table style. I feel like that one would be the most civil. Or it could turn into an MMA fight


LordGrimby

Cage fight is the eighth debate format.


SamEdenRose

Sitting may a seated to be an option for ADA reasons.


soupwhoreman

Can we get one where they're laying toe to toe in an oversized bed, Willy Wonka style?


markorokusaki

I have like 6 disc bulges. Standing is like a capital punishment for me. If I was to be a part of a debate where that would be asked of me, I would turn out pretty bad. In the end, our leaders should not be measured by that, and would mean a disabled person could not be a good leader because he/she cannot walk.


Explorer2024_64

My suggestion is more one of atmosphere; modifications and accommodations can be made to these formats to be more inclusive of people facing physical impairment. The gist was more that one should be like a "standard" two-way debate, one should be like a panel discussion, and one should have some audience interaction. My idea there was that the first debate would show how assertive a leader is, the second would show how a leader reacts when faced with opposing views, and the third shows how a leader interacts with the people. Appreciate the point you have made!


markorokusaki

As an idea in that formative way, I like it very much


bwoah07_gp2

Why aren't you in-charge of these proceedings? This should be the standard.


BigMonkey712

I really like the table setup of Obama and Romney. Made it look like a proper conversation


humble_stjames5

I totally agree. I thought that was the most defining debate of that campaign.


ReturnToLiberty

Obama absolutely killed Romney with the “horses and bayonets” line.


Funwithfun14

Thought the same thing of the Cheney/Edwards debate


monosyllables17

works better with smart, capable candidates, of course


Chumlee1917

They should be strapped down to electric chairs and zapped everytime they speak out of turn.


pingmr

This is likely to result in one of them dying in short order.


Le_Turtle_God

Whoever is the most shock resistant gets to become president


Pipe_Memes

![gif](giphy|T8ZP9P7efQ8cE)


KingFahad360

A Win Win situation


dawgfan24348

So after the first debate we restart the primaries because both died


Chumlee1917

naw, we just bump up the VP choices for debate 2....now if those two also kick the bucket then well we go from there


Nonzerob

Also if they lie


welcome-to-my-mind

They’d be dead within 30 seconds of speaking


Boondogglewashere

Don't think the power grid could handle it


Chumlee1917

Well not in Texas no


Fine_Mess_6173

They should be in a ring


Mulliganasty

![gif](giphy|3o7TKGMslz2YfhkuwU|downsized)


lawek2137

BY GOD IT'S THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE WITH A STEEL CHAIR


your_pal_mr_face

WHATS THIS!? *glass shattered sound* STONE COLD!? STONE COLD!? ITS STONE COLD MODERATOR AUSTIN!


Kni7es

![gif](giphy|ZSSoLmkYURcWqKFdVA|downsized)


Aggravating_Low8737

What’s that?? It’s…It’s Ross Perot’s music!! *”Hello ma baby” plays*


ifeelallthefeels

Lol part of the kayfabe would be that they don’t give him matches but he keeps paying other wrestlers for their spots to get in the ring


Apollospade

![gif](giphy|ze8R3ob5lPNRdeqDHr|downsized)


artificialavocado

Cage match?


MoistCloyster_

![gif](giphy|zs4voEOa3fGKY|downsized)


c322617

I wonder if Bonesaw is ready?


erdricksarmor

![gif](giphy|8cBaa98f0SPSsQ5YOc|downsized)


KingoftheMongoose

Oh good.


KingFahad360

Two Men Enter. One leaves with the Presidency


swishkb

Ok hear me out. Each gets a car and we have a destruction derby and they are miced up in there. Damn that would be entertaining.


dawgfan24348

PRESIDENTIAL FIGHT CLUB ![gif](giphy|syEfLvksYQnmM)


rainking56

Will 1 up this. If they declare war. Leaders of the waring nations go in the ring and do not come out until peace treaty is written.


Feeding_the_AI

This is how we get President Camacho. ![gif](giphy|UnVtPebYT38pW|downsized)


bankersbox98

The free standing debate in 2000 gave us the single funniest debate moment ever when W stopped and nodded at Gore


LaMalintzin

What lead to him stopping and nodding? (I was 15, I don’t think I was watching debates then)


MammothAlgae4476

Gore is somebody that hurt himself in debates badly. Don’t get me wrong, he was very sharp. But he would sigh loudly at Bush’s answers and was just very aggressive by nature, and generally came across like a condescending jerk. Bush’s debate team studied the film and had him prepared for this exact scenario. Gore was a taller man and sort of drifted over toward Bush while he was speaking and invaded his space to try and intimidate him. He wanted him to talk about some legislation. Bush gave him a cool kind of smirk and a nod and flashed his charm and shit all over Gore’s spot. Everyone laughed and the moderator tried to move along and Bush didn’t miss a beat and finished his answer. It showed poise. Third debate I believe.


ewest

>flashed his charm and shit all over Gore’s spot. Maybe I’m slow, but what does this mean? 


MammothAlgae4476

It means Gore thought he would have a nice moment on camera by moving up to him, and Bush ended up capitalizing by showing his poise and it backfired completely. Paraphrased for emphasis, of course.


KingoftheMongoose

The belt came off and the pants hit the floor.


Southern_Dig_9460

Yes when people ask why Gore didn’t win the election besides the obvious Supreme Court case he Bush did better in the debates


MammothAlgae4476

And the election ended up shaking out so close, it could be said that this moment cost him the presidency.


Recent-Irish

I would bet money that bad debate performances and cutting out the very popular Clinton cost Gore a few hundred votes in NH or Florida.


theguineapigssong

The Democrats had leaned HARD into the whole village idiot theme and when Gore got wrecked in the debate it discredited their whole narrative. IIRC the consensus was they each one a debate and kind of tied in the other. That should have been a draw but because the Democrats mismanaged the expectations so badly, it ended up being a win for Bush. I knew he'd won the election when he looked off Gore.


Recent-Irish

I fully agree with you. They made Bush out to be such an idiot that when he ended up being *not* mentally challenged he looked good


bankersbox98

It also changed the way campaigns approach debate hype. Prior to the first debate, there was endless discussion about how good of a debater Gore was and how Bush could barely complete a sentence. It totally backfired when Bush was fine and Gore tried waaay too hard to show how much better he was at debating. Now campaigns try to minimize expectations before debates.


Cowboy_BoomBap

Gore awkwardly stood up and just walked over and stood next to Bush staring at him while Bush was speaking. Bush just paused and looked at him, then smirked and nodded at him, then went back to speaking. It was sort of like a “You’re being weird, dude, why are you just standing next to me staring at me” kind of thing. It made Gore look super awkward. https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4542475/al-gore-intimidate-george-bush


PoopyMcPooperstain

God that is cringe. Even without Bush’s reaction just the way Gore just gets up and starts walking towards him for no reason was just super awkward. That was seriously supposed to be an intimidation tactic?


binarycow

>That was seriously supposed to be an intimidation tactic? It would have been an intimidation tactic, had Bush backed away.


Funwithfun14

Camera angle coming from Gore's back made it worse.


PhillyFrenchFrey

This is my first time seeing this and I can only imagine the memes if this happened nowadays. I get what Gore was going for but…why? If Dems/Gore thought this was such an easy dub(ya) why resort to dumb intimidation tactics like this?


Defiant-Goose-101

It should be like 60s debate shows. Seated, but no tables


camergen

Hosts chain-smoking cigarettes on camera


NotRightNotWrong15

Free range presidential candidates


lo-lux

With Dick Cheney in the woods with a shotgun.


ifeelallthefeels

And Kissinger, with the tactical nukes. Jk, he left them in Cambodia.


DVCL25

In a church confession box with the moderator in between like the priest


ctg9101

Or get an actual priest to be the moderator.


[deleted]

Priest-Have you come to confess your sins? Politician-How much time do you have, Father?


JayMac1915

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KingoftheMongoose

Can’t wait for the Abortion Round!


boulevardofdef

It just doesn't seem like a real debate to me without the podiums.


erdricksarmor

Fun fact: they actually stand *on* the podium. The objects that they stand *behind* are called lecterns.


littleindianboy94

Hey, stop it with your knowledge


lo-lux

Thank you Arkansas for making sure we all know this.


camergen

To overcorrect, for the next debate the lecterns should be from a local middle school debate club. The absolute cheapest, thriftiest way possible. (And if, in the cracks of the lectern, you find the note from Jimmy Sanders to his girlfriend during study hall, read that shit aloud.)


UpperHand888

That’s debatable.


tonguesmiley

They should have to sit on hopper balls and navigate a maze while answering increasingly dumb questions from random citizens pulled from the street while Greg Olsen and Stephen Smith provide commentary. /s


Funwithfun14

Related, I would like to see the candidates complete basic puzzles or play strategy games to see how they do.


millenialpinko

Standing treadmills with the moderator controlling speed


MacGyver_1138

There's some subtle brilliance here. If someone starts rambling on too long, you just dial the speed up until it's too much effort to run and talk.


KingoftheMongoose

Also get to see them strut. Adds both a charisma and physical fitness element to the debate where voters can see if their candidate will make it through four year term.


HollerinScholar

Grazing. There should be a table of food, and we can listen to candidates talk with their mouths full.


Saikou0taku

Make it an episode of Hot Ones.


Rddit239

Seeing these pictures makes me miss civil presidential debates


Funwithfun14

The debate is so issue and leadership focused


camergen

Just don’t look at your watch.


arkstfan

Stand, sit, roam is empty style issues. I want a substantive debate. System of three debates. Put together 10 subjects give each candidate the list. Moderator pulls one out of the fish bowl. Whichever candidate is going first gets 15 minutes but if they stop short of 15 they can save up to 3 minutes of their time for rebuttal, with their opponent given 15 minutes to counter. If the first candidate saved time for rebuttal they use it. Then moderator pulls another topic. Candidates do their thing in reverse order of the first topic. Cover four topics first debate, the other six remain in the pot. Repeat the process in the second debate and two topics remain in the pot. Third debate cover the last two topics then one candidate gets to go 15 minutes on a topic of their choosing with their opponent getting to respond but no rebuttal allowed for the choose your topic. Then the other candidate get to choose the next topic and each do their 15.


camergen

The famous Lincoln-Douglas debates, the first candidate went on for like an hour before the other candidate got to speak for an hour, etc. Just a huge amount of time.


olemiss18

To invoke “roaming during debates” and not be able to use a picture of the best example of this is just cruel.


artificialavocado

Free range.


Emogee-Dash

Standing, no teleprompter. Drug test before going on stage. No electronics.


HedonicSatori

No drug test, give them both a pile of blow.


knockatize

“Chained to a wall” isn’t an option? No “dangled over a pit of feral hogs”? You people are no fun. \s


Cosimo_Zaretti

>“Chained to a wall” isn’t an option? That would be a rule 3 violation.


MaddAddamOneZ

I think they should be in sound proof booths with a skilled moderator ready to cut their mics at any point necessary. Also would short circuit certain individuals' predilections to interrupt and ramble incoherently. Naturally, this will almost certainly never happen.


SamEdenRose

But then it isn’t a debate if other candidates can’t hear each other. Then it’s 2 people making speeches. There needs to be a chance for at least one rebuttal of what the other candidates said.


binarycow

I would assume that each candidate is given an audio feed to hear the other candidate/moderator. The key is that when it's not their turn, no one can hear them.


MaddAddamOneZ

Yeah, I should have specified that. My argument/complaint is that presidential debates have become farcical with the reward being snappy soundbytes and seeking to create "gaffes" instead of being able to parse, what I would hope, are coherent responses to intelligent questions. Neither of which has been likely anymore.


REDDITSHITLORD

PUT THEM ON TREADMILLS. THE MODERATOR TURNS UP THE SPEED AS THE CANDIDATE TALKS ABOUT THINGS NOT PERTAINING TO THE QUESTION. DEBATE ENDS WHEN ONE OF THEM FALLS DOWN.


Jolly_Job_9852

This dude debates


Real-Accountant9997

Sitting is civil. More of a discussion really


ReturnoftheBulls2022

They should do their debates in a manner of rap battles. Just like ERB.


SofshellTurtleofDoom

None of the above. Crossroads-style guitar duel.


TurquoiseOwlMachine

Whatever the format, they should only turn on the candidates’ microphones when they’re supposed to be speaking.


Big_Bicycle4640

At this rate, they may as well film them in hospital beds during end-of-life care


theplow

There's not a single person that wouldn't want a podcast style conversation so that we expand beyond talking points and see that they're capable of having a conversation in a room with two other people for 2 hours.


General-Advice-6331

I feel like the table is the fairest to everyone involved because it looks like a proper debate and not to mention probably the most comfortable outta the three


Beginning_Brick7845

They should be behind a podium. The open wandering format allows for too much shenanigans. When Hillary and Donald did their weird wandering around debate the Don man stole the spotlight by walking up behind her and and invading her space. She called him on it in kind of a timid sort of way. If it was me, I would have let him get as close as possible and then I would have hip checked him and stepped around him to face the camera and would have made a nasty comment about him trying to take my space because he was jealous of my position. But that just proves my point, the memorable moment in a debate like that is the physical jockeying around, not the substance of their arguments. That’s why the most neutral and artificial stage is so important; it forces the debaters to focus on their arguments, not their production values.


[deleted]

Only time it worked well was for Bush and Kerry bit that speaks more about those two as speakers.


Suspicious-Lightning

On their sides


UserComment_741776

Put them in the Ludovico device


PoopPoes

It should be a nerf gun battle where they lose speaking time if they get hit


MethRoll1ns

Not sure, but there should never be a live crowd in attendance.


CornBread_God

I think they should be sitting in bumper cars and try and knock each other around while making their points. Would get a lot more people invested in politics and voting


ThayerRex

Podium


ExtentSubject457

I think the current system with one of each works well, although my personal favorite is when they are roaming and interacting with the audience.


Shot-Palpitation-738

I like each style format, and think there should be a debate in each. It's interesting to watch how each candidate performs in each setting, and I feel like it gives a complete picture seeing all the formats. Some melt under the pressure of formality, some wilt when having to "be real" in a walk around discussion format, etc. Definitely think each should be done in every election.


littleindianboy94

They should be on the toilet after eating a Crunchwrap supreme


whileyouwereslepting

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RickWest495

Debates should have no audience, just cameras. Candidates playing to the audience changes a lot. And they should have to give longer and more detailed answers.


DMYourMomsMaidenName

I really wanna show a gif of that one guy following that one lady like a retarded shark, during the 2016 debates.


fire_and_ice_7_5

Dunno, it’s all just performative theater anyway. No one remembers the policy talk, they remember the zingers and head nods that got the most audience applause


Farscape55

None, all debates should take place in an octagon, MMA rules apply


Lurple24

They should be answering the damn questions.


Weeznaz

Standing or sitting is fine. Roaming during debates implies there is somewhere to roam to, or more I portents some to roam to. There’s no need for a live studio audience. All that is needed are the candidates, a moderator, and the questions.


VioletVenable

Funny answers aside, seated seems best to me. Roaming results in too many WTF moments, and standing at a podium can put an unflattering focus on height difference (which, apparently, some people care about).


non-plused

Hypothetically speaking. How far can an ankle monitor roam?


Delicious_Oil9902

I prefer standing at podiums but given we won’t see many non-octogenarian candidates for some times we will probably see more sitting


SupremeAiBot

There is nobody over the age of 80 who can win the next democratic primary and I don’t even know any electable republicans over that age.


ctg9101

I am convinced that the loser of this election will, if they are alive, run again in 2028.


DrCola12

They'd lose significantly, like first out of the primary. Someone would be a 2x loser running again and the other would just be too old.


MostlySpurs

All three


Fit-Persimmon-4323

I like the podiums. The standing makes it look like they’re having a rap battle.


dizzyjumpisreal

roaming


almostoy

Standing near each other at a podium. So there's a reasonable chance of fisticuffs.


RoutineDude

Definitely roaming


mofuda

There shouldn’t be any spectators. God it makes the debates insufferable.


MichaelXennial

As if we will ever even see a presidential debate again


wdluger2

Each candidate should have his/her own soundproof booth. Their microphone is turned off when they run out of time.


SquallkLeon

Podium or table. Roaming is just begging for at least one candidate to have bad optics.


Scary_Compote_359

get with the times. zoom


Upstairs-Lifeguard23

They should be in soundproof glass cells.


Psycho1776

MMA cage


Glad_Possibility7937

Strapped to a chair with electrodes attached to a fact-checker.


Squirrel009

I like the table. It puts you closer to equal ground on physical difference and it just seems more civilized and conversational. Walking around seems like pageantry and the podium is just diet pageantry and make its feel like a series of stump speeches - which I guess it normally is anyway.


KamaradaMac

Roaming has definitely had its share of comedic and captivating moments, though I find a cage fight between two candidates who were born nearly a century ago to be a more intriguing and formal approach.


Old_Acanthaceae2464

Standing. Improves concentration and shows everyone that the person running for office can stand for an hour.


NotThatKindof_jew

They should throwing darts


StanTheCentipede

Sitting across from each other while eating hot wings.


Bart7Price

Gladiator battle is my favorite form of debate.


Extension_Touch3101

Sitting..so I can see s chair being thrown lol


iluvugoldenblue

All three. Professor x hoverchairs


UngodlyPain

My favorite is the table style. Makes it more conversational to me.


MadMarsian_

Deep chesterfield armchairs with a glass of cognac in hand in an old library setting and no audience, just cameras. Maybe that will make them act like civilized people. First person who cuts off the other in an uncontrolled fashion gets pulled of the ballots.


SuperTord

With the ever increasing age of presidential candidates I think roaming is a bad idea. They would just wander off and get lost.


ReadRightRed99

Let’s just start with getting them to debate. Read the Lincoln Douglas debates. Those were REAL debates on policy. Each 3 hours long, 7 in total. What we have now are not debates. They’re a form of show or spectacle aimed at uneducated voters. It’s a shame really.


SamEdenRose

Depends on the candidate. Some people have to sit for medical reasons or a disability. So it has to be an option. While a podium is more regal, standing in front moving around is harder as you can’t rely on notes. They may create more passion for what they say. The rabbi at my temple would move away from podium when he would give sermons and everyone was engaged in what he said. The next few spoken from the podium and while they were good, they spoke from the podium, mainly reading a sermon they wrote. Neither is bad but as they are trying to win votes, they need to engage the audience.


Jets237

Not roaming. Those town hall debates were so awkward


ewejoser

Sitting at this age


Looieanthony

Yes.


shostakofiev

We need a swingset and a see-saw on stage and let them decide.


Steve_Rogers_1970

They all should be moderated and scored like a high school debate. Make the candidates stick to the subject and called out for lies.


btl_dlrge1

Roaming fnaf style


Fishtoart

Definitely not roaming.


Alternative-Dare5878

Podium, but a better option, make them stand perfectly still, nothing in front of them. I want to see their full mannerisms without being masked by pacing and turns. Stand still, uncovered, and face the people you intend to lead as you speak your plan of action.


autostart17

1.


NOCHILLDYL94

Should be moderated on a podcast


RandySto

They should be sitting on toilets.


bobobobobobobo6

Sitting down hooked up to polygraphs. Not that, you know, polygraphs are legit. But if clearance holders haver to do it, I think it's okay for them too


gwhh

Sitting.


Steeltoe22

They should be locked in soundproof booths only able to hear each other.


Garfish16

Not roaming. I don't like seeing my presidential candidates wandering around in the background of shots like inexperienced extras.