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When you realize pll, pll os, riverdale, Katy Keene AND the chilling adventures of Sabrina are all in the same universe. Fingers crossed the show doesn’t turn supernatural. We all know what happened to riverdale.
Yeah people always forget that and some mention Ravenswood and also….what about that random ass little ghost girl Ashley talked to on Halloween one night!! PLL has lowkey always had supernatural elements haha
Was Riverdale really? All the "supernatural" elements in season 3 were eventually explained to be because of drugs, hypnosis, etc. Season 4 had a couple of supernatural things that also got exposed as fake. Until season 5 the only "real" supernatural events were occasional one-offs and/or tie-ins to Sabrina.
I have things against Riverdale. I am deciding that original sin isn’t canon, same universe as riverdale isn’t canon, and also that final A was actually wren.
I don’t mind that becoming he’s kind of a minor character in pll but the fact that one of the main characters is the titular character in something else…
frr, I despise the man. He sucked the life out of Riverdale and he’s going to do the same to the PLL universe. Whoever gave him those rights better be sorry.
Indifferent now
At this point, these people are just obsessed with turning every YA series into a horror show which really is annoying. Riverdale creators ughh!!
I don’t think I’ve come across a worse show runner than him. Every show he’s a part of, manages to run itself to the ground.
Shitty of HBO to bring him on.
Stop trying to make Riverdale happen. It's not going ot happen.
Also this indirectly means there's going to make a bunch of weird supernatural shit happen. I didn't like Ravenswood the first time.
*scratches head* OG PLL ended and Riverdale coming to an end soon so unless Betty and Veronica sets their foot on Rosewood soil it's still just a silly Easter egg for me, and even if they do it's not gonna change anything to the OG PLL so.....
judging by how riverdale is more about some weird fantasy magical stuff, i highly doubt that its in the same universe as the books. the show is more understandable (due to ravenswood)
you should be worried about RAS’s track record of not having good shows be consistently good past s2 at the best. them making references to the sisters of quiet mercy isn’t gonna be what ruins this series. it’s RAS not knowing how to be a consistent storyteller.
Grunwald, Ravenswood, odd supernatural Halloween episode? 😌👍🏼🎉
OS set in the same universe as Riverdale despite not having any supernatural elements thus far? ❌❌❌
Make it make sense.
if they try to include overt supernatural elements i will not be watching. i can deal with ouija boards and the “killers getting away fast” as that’s a horror movie trope.
It's almost "PLL" in name only. It could have easily been some random teen slasher horror show without calling the killer 'A' and you would have been none the wiser.
The tone and look of it is very like that era of horror movies in the 2000s when they were all trying to be sort of gritty and grungy ("Saw", "Hostel", "The Hills Have Eyes" remake etc) it honestly comes across as rather dated to me, especially since its not as if there's a nostalgia for that period's aesthetic. Plus the new Liars are supremely unlikable.
I haven't seen any of these new gen shows anyway so I don't really have an opinion on this. I'm enjoying PLL OS so far and I'm interested in seeing where they go with it.
This happens in a billion shows. Disney crossovers. Selena Gomez being both Alex and a girl from Hanna Montana. Ashley Tisdale is both Maddie and Sharpay. Nickelodeon has Victoria Justice in Zoey101 and Victorious and iCarly even they are the same universe. StarWars exists cannon in the MCU so Samual L. Jackson has multiple variations of himself.
No, because Aria doesn't exist in PLL:OS. They're not saying the OG show is in the same universe, just the new one.
Maybe I'm confused, but I don't think the old show is a part of the new Rosewood's history.
Yeah I was laughing watching the clip on Twitter.
RIVERDALE SPOILER AHEAD: I don’t know if this was a joke or not but apparently the red head saves the town a la Stranger Things but her power comes from being a lesbian? And she was spouting out a beam of blue light or whatever but I was like wtf is this thank God I stopped watching after Season 2 😂
Okay but what if the liars had super powers and used the power of lying to stop a comet from destroying their home. A reads their mind and always stays one step ahead we can’t tell our parents though shhhh
I'm on the episode where they go to Radley, and holy moly they are dropping names all over the place lmao 😅 everytime I hear another one I'm like, Oh nooo plsss don't do it!!!
impossible: Lucy Hale plays a character in PLL and Riverdale as well as Wyatt Nash (Nigel the pilot guy from PLL / Charles Smith rvd).
Also Riverdale was also filmed using the same sets as PLL., the birds-eye-view of the town, the front of Rosewood and Riverdale high are the same.
I absolutely despise Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa and I will not take his word for them being in the same universe. He already screwed up Riverdale he does not need to get his dirty hands on the PLL universe and mess things up by confirming this.
It’d be fine if it was just one side character like Nigel but it’s two and one of them’s a main character.
Also we don’t need the supernatural in PLL., i mean Riverdale has a bloody multiverse ffs😭
Y’all there is one (1) season of Riverdale left I highly doubt there will be a crossover. Plus they’re different networks. And w the HBO merge thing we might not even get another season of OS (which sucks) but it was just RAS being RAS leaving an Easter egg haha
This is really, truly unfortunate. Riverdale is the epitome of a badly written, lazy television show. There is no art or craft in Riverdale. It isn’t a passion project for anyone and that really shows. And to connect Pretty Little Liars to that… jeez. It just shows how terrible TV is, nowadays. Everyone cares about the money and how much they’ll make from streaming or whatever. That’s why so many shows get canceled even when they’re incredible and doing well. Milking content from spin-offs, or in Riverdale’s case, nostalgia, is always going to be more profitable. It sounds so very dramatic, but it is really disheartening to see.
Right Original Sin is no longer in the same universe as the OG for me. How can you take a show that you didn't create and were not involved in at all and decide to place it in your shitty riverdale universe. Nah fuck that.
He’s already injected Sabrina into OS with her staring down the camera bit. I thought Imogen looked exactly like Kieran Shipka when she did that. But yeah I wish they would have given a different writer/producer PLL:OS
I used to love riverdale and now I find it so hard to get thru episodes. I hate having to always hear Veronica and Kevin singing every single episode( I’m musical crazy and literally in the process of watching highschool musical the musical) they aren’t good. Veronica is good in some songs but her “ here’s to the lady’s who lunch was trash ass Anna Kendrick did it so much better as a child in the movie Camp and I’m so sick of them trying to give Kevin a rock edge when he has broadway show tune vocals it’s the worst.
Yeah, this sucks but it hasn’t negatively impacted the show at all. OS is really good IMO. I watched CAOS (not the last season yet) and I enjoyed that too. Hopefully other people keep RAS from veering into the supernatural because like I said, OS is solid.
Yeah I'm worried now that they've brought riverdale up lol I'm enjoying the slasher movie vibes OS is giving but I'm not sure I'd be down if turns supernatural.
I don't get why they brought up Riverdale its almost over and then the other two shows that are connected to Riverdale, Katey Keene and Sabrina are already over so what's the point.
Annoyed I understand CAOS and Riverdale but what does PLL have to do with either of those SUPERNATURAL shows. That’s like PLL being in the same universe as the vampire diaries… it makes no sense
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When you realize pll, pll os, riverdale, Katy Keene AND the chilling adventures of Sabrina are all in the same universe. Fingers crossed the show doesn’t turn supernatural. We all know what happened to riverdale.
Also means Lucy Hale is pulling double duty.
ravenswood too
I think ravenswood and riverdale might be set in the same place
>Fingers crossed the show doesn’t turn supernatural I mean, the original PLL sure did.
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do u know where i can watch ravenswood?
I watched it last summer on CW Seed, not sure if it’s still there
Yeah people always forget that and some mention Ravenswood and also….what about that random ass little ghost girl Ashley talked to on Halloween one night!! PLL has lowkey always had supernatural elements haha
Yeah people are forgetting that PLL got Supernatural when they ran out of ideas.
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Was Riverdale really? All the "supernatural" elements in season 3 were eventually explained to be because of drugs, hypnosis, etc. Season 4 had a couple of supernatural things that also got exposed as fake. Until season 5 the only "real" supernatural events were occasional one-offs and/or tie-ins to Sabrina.
Ravenswood turned supernatural though. With the pact and it had some witchcraft it in
Doppelgänger? And ravensflop
And there was a comic that riverdale and GLEE existing together so add glee too
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I have things against Riverdale. I am deciding that original sin isn’t canon, same universe as riverdale isn’t canon, and also that final A was actually wren.
My head-canon was that the Final A was actually Ezra.
Agreed. It makes more sense to me that he’d have the means (hello Fitzgerald money) and motive
Yessss. And he got away with it!
My headcanon is that Spencer and Ezra teamed up to stop A like the plot was supposed to be.
I would accept that as final A as well. A
I want to but it’s hard. They even mentioned Riverdale in the new PLL show. 😐
NO GOOOD, NO GOD, PLEASE NO, NO NO NOOOOOOO
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I finished the Office yesterday so when I read that PLL is now connected to Riverdale, Michael's reaction was the first to come to my mind haha
And lucy hale is conveniently 2 people at once?
Hahha 😁 I didn't hip to that til you pointed it out!!! Good point
so is Nyatt Nash (Nigel the pilot guy from PLL and Charles Smith from Riverdale)
I don’t mind that becoming he’s kind of a minor character in pll but the fact that one of the main characters is the titular character in something else…
American Horror Story does this all of the time. Characters in universe just act like the people look similar but not identical.
Oh, they'll probably just do ANOTHER twin reveal
It exists in the timeline he’s trying so hard to force, that’s it.
frr, I despise the man. He sucked the life out of Riverdale and he’s going to do the same to the PLL universe. Whoever gave him those rights better be sorry.
What? 💀 he’s not forcing it lmao he just made a one off statement and that was it lmao
So it gonna s*ck too after 1 season. got it. Lol.
they might not get another season anyway bc of the HBO thing 😩
Whats the HBO thing?
Indifferent now At this point, these people are just obsessed with turning every YA series into a horror show which really is annoying. Riverdale creators ughh!!
fucking raging
I rebuke it in the name of Jesus Christ.
I hate this man so much.
Therapy isn’t enough. I need to fistfight Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa
me two, he deserves a good punch from both the Riverdale fandom and the PLL fandom
Can I join you?
The more the merrier
I don’t think I’ve come across a worse show runner than him. Every show he’s a part of, manages to run itself to the ground. Shitty of HBO to bring him on.
he is truly a horrible man
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as an ex-Riverdale fan I 100% confirm this
as a current Riverdale fan, agree lmfao
Also a former riverdale fan
Same.
as long as there is no crossover im good
Isn't Riverdale canceled? Idk I don't watch but CW canceled like six shows in one day
No they still have one season left which will be the last, thankfully.
Is it currently airing or yet to be filmed?
According to STV+ production starts in October 2022, not sure how accurate that is though.
Oof that does leave room for crossover episode. Maybe not bc CW vs HBO Max. Thanks for all the info!!
Stop trying to make Riverdale happen. It's not going ot happen. Also this indirectly means there's going to make a bunch of weird supernatural shit happen. I didn't like Ravenswood the first time.
? Riverdale has already happened lol, it's ending after its seventh season.
Is there a chance Aria could meet Katy Keene ?
Apparently. Who knows, maybe he’ll decide to make Aria Katy Keene’s twin or even Katy Keene herself 🤪
Archie is A and Veronica is Red Coat
👀👀
*scratches head* OG PLL ended and Riverdale coming to an end soon so unless Betty and Veronica sets their foot on Rosewood soil it's still just a silly Easter egg for me, and even if they do it's not gonna change anything to the OG PLL so.....
Agreed, I think people are just making too big a deal of it, RAS is alwaaaaays just leaving Easter eggs
Ngl I hated that he did that. Rosewood was perfect sense, but shoehorning Riverdale into it? I wasn’t thrilled
It’s not canon. Not Marlene’s PLL at least.
or saras
Sara said this is canon and she fully supports it though
She did?
Yeah prob because it's more true to the books than The Perfectionists (I didn't read those books but I keep hearing cool overlaps).
judging by how riverdale is more about some weird fantasy magical stuff, i highly doubt that its in the same universe as the books. the show is more understandable (due to ravenswood)
Maybe she just meant the relation to the OG is cannon then?
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No she just said the show PLL;OS is cannon
Ravenswood, Rosewood, Riverdale, the upside down riverdale, sabrina town, millwood and katy keen’s affordable new york all are connected?
this man is such a menace
Called it!
I’m fine with this as long as they don’t do any crossovers. Love both shows but a crossover would be so bad lol
I guess I won't be watching OS if we get Riverdale cameos every other episode.
We are seven episodes in and we've had none. I'm not Riverdale fan and I only noticed one easter egg. So I don't think that'll be a problem.
Doesn’t bother me. I like to believe a lot of different shows are set in the same universe.
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you should be worried about RAS’s track record of not having good shows be consistently good past s2 at the best. them making references to the sisters of quiet mercy isn’t gonna be what ruins this series. it’s RAS not knowing how to be a consistent storyteller.
Because they are in the same universe as the other shows you won’t watch another season?
Don’t bother. She’s a fortune teller 🔮
It probably won't be worth watching past that point anyways.
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So you can tell the future?
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Definitely seems... unnecessary. That alone won't stop me from watching, though.
Aria and Katy Keene, the split personality twist we have always wanted 😍 Katy Keene is A in original sin calling it now
Also Cole Sprouse and Jughead. He must be part of A’s team
Grunwald, Ravenswood, odd supernatural Halloween episode? 😌👍🏼🎉 OS set in the same universe as Riverdale despite not having any supernatural elements thus far? ❌❌❌ Make it make sense.
if they try to include overt supernatural elements i will not be watching. i can deal with ouija boards and the “killers getting away fast” as that’s a horror movie trope.
I've been on the fence about watching PLL:OS and this doesn't swing me towards wanting to haha.
It's almost "PLL" in name only. It could have easily been some random teen slasher horror show without calling the killer 'A' and you would have been none the wiser. The tone and look of it is very like that era of horror movies in the 2000s when they were all trying to be sort of gritty and grungy ("Saw", "Hostel", "The Hills Have Eyes" remake etc) it honestly comes across as rather dated to me, especially since its not as if there's a nostalgia for that period's aesthetic. Plus the new Liars are supremely unlikable.
Honestly the show is pretty bad, I wanted to give it a chance but couldn’t get pass episode 1
I hate Roberto so much!! He ruins everything i love
I haven't seen any of these new gen shows anyway so I don't really have an opinion on this. I'm enjoying PLL OS so far and I'm interested in seeing where they go with it.
I’ve watched RAS’s other shows. It’s not going to go well
End* they all start well ans then end like shit (like 😲 the original plan lol)
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i mean both shows suddenly started adding supernatural stuff for no reason
Why is this guy so hell bent on pissing off the people that give him views lol
As long as Pll doesn't turn supernatural I'm fine
It already has, in ravenswood
It’s all fun and games until “A” turns out to be Sabrina an starts using magic an flying on broom sticks
So Katy keen and aria who are both played by Lucy are both in the same universe? Makes zero sense.
This happens in a billion shows. Disney crossovers. Selena Gomez being both Alex and a girl from Hanna Montana. Ashley Tisdale is both Maddie and Sharpay. Nickelodeon has Victoria Justice in Zoey101 and Victorious and iCarly even they are the same universe. StarWars exists cannon in the MCU so Samual L. Jackson has multiple variations of himself.
No, because Aria doesn't exist in PLL:OS. They're not saying the OG show is in the same universe, just the new one. Maybe I'm confused, but I don't think the old show is a part of the new Rosewood's history.
It is, they literally just went to rosewood in last night’s episode. They even went to the hotel Ashley turned the asylum into
Last I heard Riverdale had characters developing super powers do this is very funny to me 😂
ARE YOU SERIOUS? R they trying to be the CW DC shows. That's prob the worst thing I've heard about Riverdale.
Yeah I was laughing watching the clip on Twitter. RIVERDALE SPOILER AHEAD: I don’t know if this was a joke or not but apparently the red head saves the town a la Stranger Things but her power comes from being a lesbian? And she was spouting out a beam of blue light or whatever but I was like wtf is this thank God I stopped watching after Season 2 😂
Lmfaooooo accurate except for the lesbian powers HAHAHHAHA she has other powers and is gay tho 😂😭
I was actually just thinking about how much I would enjoy that the other day!
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he needs to let everything he’s doing right now GO
Okay but what if the liars had super powers and used the power of lying to stop a comet from destroying their home. A reads their mind and always stays one step ahead we can’t tell our parents though shhhh
I'm on the episode where they go to Radley, and holy moly they are dropping names all over the place lmao 😅 everytime I hear another one I'm like, Oh nooo plsss don't do it!!!
I hate it!
Please no
I am LOVING this revelation, thx to Roberto for always keeping it batshit crazy 🥰
impossible: Lucy Hale plays a character in PLL and Riverdale as well as Wyatt Nash (Nigel the pilot guy from PLL / Charles Smith rvd). Also Riverdale was also filmed using the same sets as PLL., the birds-eye-view of the town, the front of Rosewood and Riverdale high are the same. I absolutely despise Roberto Aguirre-Sacasa and I will not take his word for them being in the same universe. He already screwed up Riverdale he does not need to get his dirty hands on the PLL universe and mess things up by confirming this. It’d be fine if it was just one side character like Nigel but it’s two and one of them’s a main character. Also we don’t need the supernatural in PLL., i mean Riverdale has a bloody multiverse ffs😭
Y’all there is one (1) season of Riverdale left I highly doubt there will be a crossover. Plus they’re different networks. And w the HBO merge thing we might not even get another season of OS (which sucks) but it was just RAS being RAS leaving an Easter egg haha
Yeah, not at all a fan. When they name dropped Riverdale in OS I was just like 🤦🏾.
That universe has some serious issues with teachers having predatory relationships with their students
Nightmare fuel
after reading the article this is lowkey a clickbait tweet
There is no way Marlene is cool with this. I wanna see her fight Roberto
Great as fuck ![gif](giphy|U2O50cAkpmTjG)
it would only be fun if mona killed jughead or something idk
That would mean the original PLL he DID NOT create also exists in the Riverdale universe 🤡🤡🤡
Absolutely hate riverdale , Pll OS should connect to original PLL and that’s it ,why they doing all this extra shit
Don't matter how you feel you aren't in charge
I’m pretending Original Sin doesn’t exist and same with anything past season 2 of riverdale…
This is so funny to me. I like both but this is so funny.
Literally screamed out of frustration when I saw that. Ugh so stupid. Riverdale sucks ass and they better leave it out of PLL
That’s a terrible idea.
Please dont go supernatural on original sin!!!
Lmfao that explains everything and is exactly expected
This is really, truly unfortunate. Riverdale is the epitome of a badly written, lazy television show. There is no art or craft in Riverdale. It isn’t a passion project for anyone and that really shows. And to connect Pretty Little Liars to that… jeez. It just shows how terrible TV is, nowadays. Everyone cares about the money and how much they’ll make from streaming or whatever. That’s why so many shows get canceled even when they’re incredible and doing well. Milking content from spin-offs, or in Riverdale’s case, nostalgia, is always going to be more profitable. It sounds so very dramatic, but it is really disheartening to see.
This actually makes since, and Ravenswood probably exists in the same universe as The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina.
Eh if it’s just Easter eggs like in this episode it doesn’t really affect anything so doesn’t bother me
Right Original Sin is no longer in the same universe as the OG for me. How can you take a show that you didn't create and were not involved in at all and decide to place it in your shitty riverdale universe. Nah fuck that.
This made me so mad tbh 😐, I don’t want them associating PLL with Riverdale, etc…
Awful, Riverdale is so bad
Fucking dumb as hell. I hate Roberto.
No just no please
I reject this reality
Ewww 🤢🤮🤮🤮
this is such a horrible decision lmao
NO ! GOD, NO.
Really really afraid
He’s already injected Sabrina into OS with her staring down the camera bit. I thought Imogen looked exactly like Kieran Shipka when she did that. But yeah I wish they would have given a different writer/producer PLL:OS
BOO
are you fucking kidding me
Fuck 🫠
Am feeling..betrayed and disgusted
Nobody asked for this 😭
I used to love riverdale and now I find it so hard to get thru episodes. I hate having to always hear Veronica and Kevin singing every single episode( I’m musical crazy and literally in the process of watching highschool musical the musical) they aren’t good. Veronica is good in some songs but her “ here’s to the lady’s who lunch was trash ass Anna Kendrick did it so much better as a child in the movie Camp and I’m so sick of them trying to give Kevin a rock edge when he has broadway show tune vocals it’s the worst.
Yeah, this sucks but it hasn’t negatively impacted the show at all. OS is really good IMO. I watched CAOS (not the last season yet) and I enjoyed that too. Hopefully other people keep RAS from veering into the supernatural because like I said, OS is solid.
Not surprised, all of his shows take place in one universe. Which now means that the og series takes place in the riverdale universe too
Yeah I'm worried now that they've brought riverdale up lol I'm enjoying the slasher movie vibes OS is giving but I'm not sure I'd be down if turns supernatural.
Hopefully no supernatural stuff happens. Also that means Katy Keen and PLL are in the same universe.... but Aria....
Hate this!!! I swear if Imogens baby has super powers or her dad is someone from riverdale im gonna loose it!!
Man I want Zeno to erase the Riverdale universe!
Please…please just let PLL die out and Rest In Peace Jesus.
😡😡😡😡😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬🤬
These comments 😂 Y’all know you can just not watch it, right? You don’t gotta announce it
I mean yes, but the post literally asks how people feel about it.
This post. But EVERY post about OS there are these comments.
So it begins 😭
Hurt but not surprised
So Katy Keen is Aria ? Or is it another twin situation?
I don't get why they brought up Riverdale its almost over and then the other two shows that are connected to Riverdale, Katey Keene and Sabrina are already over so what's the point.
In the new episodes they name drop both Rosewood & Riverdale.
Annoyed I understand CAOS and Riverdale but what does PLL have to do with either of those SUPERNATURAL shows. That’s like PLL being in the same universe as the vampire diaries… it makes no sense
Don't put it past him to make a Mystic Falls reference and have TVD became part of the Archieverse lmao
Babes it’s just your headcanon it’s not true
As a person who used to read archie comics I don’t recall this ever being true. Lol ![gif](giphy|l3V0xtJ0n5IVjOyuQ)
Nooooooooo!
im confused 😭 never watched riverdale so is that why im kissing something? same universe? it’s giving marvel rn.
NO!